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castro10

castro10

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Join Date: 02/28/2012 | Posts: 6

Alright guys before I get blasted for being a newbie, chode, fag, etc. I do have to ask a very newbie and chode-like question....

which books do you guys recommend that I MUST read to give me a strong foundation on my journey to becoming more successful with the ladies?? 

I just joined this forum, literally yesterday, after seeing some of Tyler Durdan's shit on youtube... I gotta admit that I'm feeling his whole approach... focusing more on being a well-centered man rather than on gimmicks and tricks that will fool party girls into thinking that you are a well-centered man...  In short, I'm a fan of inner game over outer game... and I'm willing to put in the hard work that is associated with a long-term lifestyle change. 

However, it would save me tons of time (and money) if I could hear your suggestions for solid material that helped you guys internalize the essentials and basics of pick-up way back when. Although I'd like to get to the point where I'm pulling 3somes on a daily basis with one busty latina and another blue-eyed brunette equally as busty, I just ain't ready for that shit right now and I need some strong fundamentals to get there.

Thanks in advance guys. I appreciate the help. 


ps. all that I have read about pick-up so far has been "The Game" by Neil and "The Venusian Arts Handbook" by Mystery. Then I've read a whole bunch of other books that relate to life in general such as "The Power of Now" Eckhart Tolle and anything I could find by Nietzsche and Kierkegaard. 
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proposition

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Go out and approach.
say hi introduce yourself
Pulling threesomes on a daily basis is fantasy. unless its the same girls.
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The Mack

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 id check out foundations, it gives you everything in one product
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afl3x

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Go out, approach. Square up (face to face, shoulders aligned, and keep eye contact) <------ internalize that first. Say Hi and continue spitting out whatever arises to your mind - don't go searching for what to say. You are going to get murdered, brutally, by women, but you just gotta suck it up and fucking do it.

While you're out, remember these few things: Approach anything & everything (ignore your mind saying that shes too ugly, fat, or whatever - just go), minimize time between sets (once you blow out, hit another set - immediately), asume attraction, and release yourself from fear of rejection (ie. dettachment form outcome).

That's pretty much basic run down, the only way to get this shit though it go out and internalize it through action (talking to women).

I think the biggest and most important to start with is in my opening sentence. So just go out and focus on that for the first few weeks and then you can come back and start learning, escalation and logistical shit.
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castro10

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yooo thx for the quick replies... I didn't even think about it that way... its better if I just go and spit whatever instead of looking for shit to say... thats some good advice!! btw I am a newbie but I'm not a complete social retard lol... I know how to talk to regular ppl but mostly in a non-pick-up scenario... I can even get it in for time to time when I'm a bit fucked up :)))  o and I was being somewhat sarcastic about the daily 3somes... its still a nice fantasy tho :))) nonetheless, thx for the help homies!!
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The war of Art by Steven Pressfield.
Do the work by Steven Pressfield.

You'll either get The War of Art or you wont.
These two books help me understand the roadblocks you'll go through in whatever goal you undertake.
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castro10

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kk thx pree... I'll make sure to check those out... and yoooo paris man I had no idea how much reading I had to do!! Its all good tho bro I did ask for all the fundamenals... thx again
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Boner
Relax
Focus on her in the moment
Escalate
Smile and make her smile
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First thing ill say, ignore pretty much 90% of the book by mystery, itll confuse you.

Second thing some basic advice to get you started that might help other people too:

1. Be yourself - this means be normal, do not try to be cool, do not try to impress, just be.


2. Do stuff spontaniously - this doesnt mean do random stuff nobody is expecting, dont go climb a tree spontaniously, what i mean is when that thing pops into your head in the middle of a convo and you stop and think nah it probably wont be funny theyll think im weird, do it anyway, just say it as soon as it comes to mind.

If you are dancing and you decide to fist-pump but you stop yourself out of fear of looking weird, do it anyway fist pump!

That sexual inuendo comes into your head in convo, blurt it out!

Eg, a girl at work says to me "haha, youve been busting out all these inuendos all day."

I replied with "in whos end-o?" i almost didnt say it, but ended up blurting it out.

Everyone laughed their heads off!


3. Fear is your friend - this one links to the first one. Whenever you get that little bit of fear/anxiety/shyness/reluctance, that is a sign you should be doing the thing that is trigering the negative emotion. The negative emotion is a block/a door that is in your way to the rest of your true self. People function with only 50% of their true self (kids and babies function at 100%) to get to the other 50% you must open that door by ignoring the bad feeling and doing it anyway.

E.g. Empty dancefloor, your head says lets dance but a nother part of you says no youll look dumb everyone will see, thats the sign for you to go and dance and fight through the emotion, cos once u get through it itll feel great and u realise it feels good.

Same with approaching girls.


4. Dont be game-y - again links to the first one. Dont approach a chick with something you think will be impressive, she will see youre trying and will be weirded out, think of how it is when a homless person walks up to you asking for money, you just wanna walk away.

Be totally normal, say "hi, im name" or be truthfull, "youre cute", "i like your eyes."

When talking to her do not try to impress, "i drive a blah blahblah", do not say anything that is showing off, she should like you for you not some cool things you do. She will realise tou are showing off aswell, and will rationalise that you dont think you are good enough for her so you feel like you must show off for her to like you.


5. Lead girls arround - this means, when chatting to a chick by the bar move her to another part of the club, get her used to you taking the lead and making decisions, that way when it comes to pulling her home shell be cool with you leading her out the venue.

(Ive lead so many girls out of venues that have a no reentry policy, they are that comfortable with me that they just follow, once outside and they find out there is no reentry, they invite me back to their place, again i lead, i hail the cap, i lead her ito it, as a man you must take initiative.)


6. Make decisions - this means, make decisions fast and stick to them, because when you overthink a decision you pver rationalise all options then cannot choose.

E.g
Your usual route to work is blocked (subway) how are you gonna get to work, overground train, bus, taxi. Make a split second choice and follow through.

E.g. 2: youre talking to a chick and you feel its time to make out, do not over think it either go for it or dont, if you dont dont deell on it try it again, but do not be sitting there thinking is it time, shell notice something is off.

E.g. 3: youre pulling a girl home make a decision and follow through, on your way to tge door dont suddenly change your mind and stall.

E.g.4: see a hot girl either approach or dont, if you dont forget about it dont deell on the fact u got scared.


7. Keep promisses - keep promisses to yourself and others. If you say youll do something for someone do it, a man a man makes a choice, or a promise and fucked does it no matter how inconveniet. If you make a promis to yourself, do it, no matter how trivial, the most important person in uour life is you, without you youd be dead, cos if you miss that one promisse why would you do the others, over time you go back into procrastination!


8. Expect resistance - What I mean here is 2 things:

1. Half or more of the people you approach will give you resistance in the first few seconds of an interaction, if not resistance they will just stand there giving you a blank look as in "Yes? What do you want?", or brush you off in some way

Dont fear this, just know it is coming, when you are aware of this it is easy to ignore it and keep chatting, youll notice within seconds the same people that did it will love you, If you react in any way like this resistance has affected you in some way, they will be less motivated to talk to you. This is mainly to do with most people in the bar arent used to talking to strangers but usually to friends they know, (Social circle type stuff) so when you approach unanounced they get a bit thrown off and dont know what to do, as soon as they see that youre legit and cool theyll love you, especially if you ignore their resistance (insecurity) and keep going as you were they will match your rythm. If you match their resistance rythm its hard o engage.

2: You will have resistance in your journey to become an awesome person, with women and with your inner self. Ive been doing this for 3 years now, and Ive gotten to an awesome place, but every once in a while that little resistance shows its ugly head, but remember you have to ignore it, and keep going!

Thats all I can think of for now.


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Goran~ wrote:
First thing ill say, ignore pretty much 90% of the book by mystery, itll confuse you.

Second thing some basic advice to get you started that might help other people too:

1. Be yourself - this means be normal, do not try to be cool, do not try to impress, just be.


2. Do stuff spontaniously - this doesnt mean do random stuff nobody is expecting, dont go climb a tree spontaniously, what i mean is when that thing pops into your head in the middle of a convo and you stop and think nah it probably wont be funny theyll think im weird, do it anyway, just say it as soon as it comes to mind.

If you are dancing and you decide to fist-pump but you stop yourself out of fear of looking weird, do it anyway fist pump!

That sexual inuendo comes into your head in convo, blurt it out!

Eg, a girl at work says to me "haha, youve been busting out all these inuendos all day."

I replied with "in whos end-o?" i almost didnt say it, but ended up blurting it out.

Everyone laughed their heads off!


3. Fear is your friend - this one links to the first one. Whenever you get that little bit of fear/anxiety/shyness/reluctance, that is a sign you should be doing the thing that is trigering the negative emotion. The negative emotion is a block/a door that is in your way to the rest of your true self. People function with only 50% of their true self (kids and babies function at 100%) to get to the other 50% you must open that door by ignoring the bad feeling and doing it anyway.

E.g. Empty dancefloor, your head says lets dance but a nother part of you says no youll look dumb everyone will see, thats the sign for you to go and dance and fight through the emotion, cos once u get through it itll feel great and u realise it feels good.

Same with approaching girls.


4. Dont be game-y - again links to the first one. Dont approach a chick with something you think will be impressive, she will see youre trying and will be weirded out, think of how it is when a homless person walks up to you asking for money, you just wanna walk away.

Be totally normal, say "hi, im name" or be truthfull, "youre cute", "i like your eyes."

When talking to her do not try to impress, "i drive a blah blahblah", do not say anything that is showing off, she should like you for you not some cool things you do. She will realise tou are showing off aswell, and will rationalise that you dont think you are good enough for her so you feel like you must show off for her to like you.


5. Lead girls arround - this means, when chatting to a chick by the bar move her to another part of the club, get her used to you taking the lead and making decisions, that way when it comes to pulling her home shell be cool with you leading her out the venue.

(Ive lead so many girls out of venues that have a no reentry policy, they are that comfortable with me that they just follow, once outside and they find out there is no reentry, they invite me back to their place, again i lead, i hail the cap, i lead her ito it, as a man you must take initiative.)


6. Make decisions - this means, make decisions fast and stick to them, because when you overthink a decision you pver rationalise all options then cannot choose.

E.g
Your usual route to work is blocked (subway) how are you gonna get to work, overground train, bus, taxi. Make a split second choice and follow through.

E.g. 2: youre talking to a chick and you feel its time to make out, do not over think it either go for it or dont, if you dont dont deell on it try it again, but do not be sitting there thinking is it time, shell notice something is off.

E.g. 3: youre pulling a girl home make a decision and follow through, on your way to tge door dont suddenly change your mind and stall.

E.g.4: see a hot girl either approach or dont, if you dont forget about it dont deell on the fact u got scared.


7. Keep promisses - keep promisses to yourself and others. If you say youll do something for someone do it, a man a man makes a choice, or a promise and fucked does it no matter how inconveniet. If you make a promis to yourself, do it, no matter how trivial, the most important person in uour life is you, without you youd be dead, cos if you miss that one promisse why would you do the others, over time you go back into procrastination!


8. Expect resistance - What I mean here is 2 things:

1. Half or more of the people you approach will give you resistance in the first few seconds of an interaction, if not resistance they will just stand there giving you a blank look as in "Yes? What do you want?", or brush you off in some way

Dont fear this, just know it is coming, when you are aware of this it is easy to ignore it and keep chatting, youll notice within seconds the same people that did it will love you, If you react in any way like this resistance has affected you in some way, they will be less motivated to talk to you. This is mainly to do with most people in the bar arent used to talking to strangers but usually to friends they know, (Social circle type stuff) so when you approach unanounced they get a bit thrown off and dont know what to do, as soon as they see that youre legit and cool theyll love you, especially if you ignore their resistance (insecurity) and keep going as you were they will match your rythm. If you match their resistance rythm its hard o engage.

2: You will have resistance in your journey to become an awesome person, with women and with your inner self. Ive been doing this for 3 years now, and Ive gotten to an awesome place, but every once in a while that little resistance shows its ugly head, but remember you have to ignore it, and keep going!

Thats all I can think of for now.


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