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 One thing that I found is very useful that Alex doesn't teach is when making the transition from 'indirect conversation' to 'lets chat and vibe' is to put a little "reason" for why you are doing that. I usually say "I like your smile/laugh/vibe/random thing she said about herself, what is your name?". Sometimes I transition without that and notice its not as consistent as giving her a reason. Juggler teaches that for his daygame style

If you are in a good state and totally non-needy that isn't necessary, problem is a lot of the time I'm not so giving her a reason helps to smoothly transition the conversation when my subcommunications are not tight
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good stuff man
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 @Hunter: Kinda agree...

What´s weird that I have done probably 250 approaches last month...Gotten cca 20 numbers, all flakes and when I had a solid interaction with a girl (then they tell me over text that they have a BF). That´s what motivated me to try indirect.


I updated the original post...Added Mistaking intimidating for bad game. I think half of my blowouts were because of intimidating, the other half were other reasons (me having bad vibe, bad approach logistics, girls in a hurry, BF, etc...). I especially intimidated a lot of those teenage girls (yep I approach even 15-19yo girls) and these girls have a pretty weak reality and narrow comfort zone.

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 yeah man good stuff...you know i tend to agree with what alex is saying here. girls are fucking freaked out. how could they not be. (especially in moscow where if you walk around the wrong corner you'll be staring at some dude in an alley yanking one off. the thing that helps brad and ryan and tim or whoever who go in direct is that they can work their way through the initial shock of the girl of how direct they are. more than likely a girl is takin back when they say it no matyter how good their game is. it isnt the direct approach that does it it is the fact they can change the convo it be more fun and less threatening as it moves on...thus what alex meant by saying the girls want more of a relaxed chill fun guy when they meet them in the day....which isnt necessarily dependant on how you approach
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 Quoting Alex:

"I i followed through hard with instant day game blow off and after i got them talking they would genuinely say im so sorry but i do have a boyfriend but you are nice etc. Genuine stuff. So my way is better for screening the relationship girls. "

Feel very durrrrr. Had a 1 hour insta date with a girl, only for her to tell me over FB that she has a BF. Grrrrrr. Just screening taken girls out so I don´t have to invest so much time with girls with no intentions in seeing you again. Probably I am gonna just ask them about it casually.

Have done quite a lot of indirect approaches. It´s a pretty good way to meet women. Had several instant dates in March from indirect.

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 I like how RSD instructors contradict the shit out of each other.
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Yeah it's crazy that they are unique individuals with different ideas and styles tied together by comon purpose.

Thanks for posting this ChinaBoy.

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 I like how RSD instructors contradict the shit out of each other.
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 Just realised that this is a very effective way to meet girls...but under one crucial condition.

You must be relaxed and feel+think that you are enough...otherwise it´s a total fail. Girls will walk away and you will feel stupid for getting blownout for asking for directions :D :D :D

If you see a really cute girl and think you need to impress her by doing something flashy and going direct then you are coming from a wrong place...
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It's crazy. As a newbie, you hear Tyler talk about applying the same principals in night game to day game and then read this and get confused as fuck.

I have found it really hard to go indirect with intentions. I could come up with any opinion/situational opener, but transitioning to my intentions has always felt clumsy and awkward. I always feel that when I state my intentions upfront (you are cute and I just had to come talk to you) it relieves me of all social pressure and the girl knows exactly why I am there.

Are you guys finidng it hard to transition? How do you do it?
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I got laid Tuesday from a direct day game cold approach Monday (the day before)...

So, IMO, indirect is a waste of time ESPECIALLY during the day because you are more likely to meet girls with boyfriends during the day = 10-15 minute conversation and then you find out she has a bf... = waste

Plus, unless you're REALLY COOL (which you might not be) girls will be kinda peeved you're just talking to them about random shit instead of being direct, whereas direct actually works better for new guys because the girl knows whats up and there is less burden on you to be this awesome cool conversationalist champion guy.
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