THE FORUMS
March 27, 2012
I did a few more indirects on campus, either:
1) I open, she looks studious, we both stop talking out of tacit respect for classroom quietness.
2) I open, it doesn't hook immediately, I shut up.
3) (Usually with girls working) An exchange of hellos and quick remarks, could've stayed but I leave out of respect.
That's not good enough. I've been doing this for a month and still no number (haven't even ASKED for one because of ''perceived'' bad logistics).
Will try to:
- focus on the interaction
- FOCUS on the interaction
- once I open, keep talking, don't ever stop and think
- fuck lecture room quietness, most guys are playing solitaire anyways
- stop being so nice and respectful (won't get you numbers or lays)
- adopt a positive leading frame (talked to a few guys that has this frame, it's so infectious)
I'll be out tomorrow for ACTUAL day game. Not this classroom PG13 shit as Marzzz calls it. Aiming for 3 directs in 1 hour.
I did a few more indirects on campus, either:
1) I open, she looks studious, we both stop talking out of tacit respect for classroom quietness.
2) I open, it doesn't hook immediately, I shut up.
3) (Usually with girls working) An exchange of hellos and quick remarks, could've stayed but I leave out of respect.
That's not good enough. I've been doing this for a month and still no number (haven't even ASKED for one because of ''perceived'' bad logistics).
Will try to:
- focus on the interaction
- FOCUS on the interaction
- once I open, keep talking, don't ever stop and think
- fuck lecture room quietness, most guys are playing solitaire anyways
- stop being so nice and respectful (won't get you numbers or lays)
- adopt a positive leading frame (talked to a few guys that has this frame, it's so infectious)
I'll be out tomorrow for ACTUAL day game. Not this classroom PG13 shit as Marzzz calls it. Aiming for 3 directs in 1 hour.
March 28, 2012
My goal today was to do 3 approaches in 1 hour and that's it. I told myself if I accomplish that then I get to fap for the first time in 57 days.
I meet up with Chris and Brent. We head over to the mall for some day game. Along the way I see 2 girls coming our direction. I open direct, "hey I thought you guys were gorgeous so I had to say hi", they stop in their tracks and shake my hand. I talk for a bit but Chris sees I'm struggling to hold their attention so he comes in to wing me. I freeze out and eventually we let them go.
Brent opens direct on 2 girls. I come in to wing but end up freezing out after shaking their hand. Turns out they were going to some Flo Rida concert. That's some instadate potential but they weren't that hot.
We find Curtis and start walking in circles. We initiate the punching game and I approach with a good 14 seconds left on the clock. Open direct, "hey I thought you guys were hot so I had to say hi". They stop and listen, the hot one shakes my hand. But it's a two set and my wings are nowhere nearby. I try my best to hold them but the uglier one just goes "yeah it was nice meeting you but byeeeeeee".
At one point we run into a guy from TAP. Guy is so chill and centered.
I see this Asian chick, probably the hottest girl I approached today. For some fucking reason I hesitate with direct approach. Open indirect instead, "hey have you seen this guy blah blah blah". She's like "nah sorry I haven't" but then asks me why not just call him. I make up some bullshit excuse and asks her if she's looking for someone as well. Yes she is. I remark that it's fucking hard to find people in a mall, she concurs, I eject.
Then we try to help Curtis with some daygame adjustments. He uses an authentic opener like "Hey how are you?" but girls just keep walking. Gotta TELL them to stop so they'll actually stop and listen to you. The FORCE!
I'm still trying to get my 3rd direct, but I've lost all momentum at this point. Chris actually opens two cuties and tells them I have a huge crush on them but I'm too shy to talk. LOL man it's true. A bit embarrassing but they were pretty cool.
We head toward campus. After a 15 minute walk in the scathing wind I only see two girls. Pussies out on both because I think it's bad logistics to approach in a park when the sun's down. I just don't want to come off as a rapist, especially at my own school. But at this point it's been 2 or 3 hours and I'm still at 2 direct approaches, but to motivate myself I say FUCK IT if I get my 3rd direct I'll call it a day and go home and turn on the computer and FAP!
I see a woman walking in our direction, talking on the phone. There is no other approachable females in sight for blocks so I drop my balls and stop her. Spit my usual. She gives a disgusted look and yells "can't you see I'm on the phone with my husband?". Harsh. Judging by her expression she's just lost all faith in humanity! For the first time ever, I get an instant blowout and it stings real bad. Even with Chris trying to re-validate me I still act all butthurt. Later on I realize I'm still a sensitive bitch and I need to get blown out more to reach that level of IRREVERNCE.
We part ways. On the bus home I sit beside this milf with short red hair. She's reading this book on how to network, yet we make eye contact and she doesn't open me. LOL the irony. After 5 minutes I ask her "how's it going?" She is like "huh???" then realizes what's going on and we talk fluff. This is my second ever approach on the bus and it goes 10x better than the first one. Basically I carry the conversation and talk in statements. Never ran out of things to say!!! At one point she offers me her business card, but I realize I haven't established a MAN-TO-WOMAN connection so her "move" has more business implications than romantic ones. I politely decline but it was nice talking to her. Felt great that I improved so much since my last approach on the bus (which basically ended in awkward silence).
Victories
3 direct approaches
2 indirect approaches
became more comfortable with maintaining a conversation
Lessons
- Harsh blow-outs mean nothing. NEVER act butthurt again.
- Talk as if man-to-woman, not friend-to-friend.
- MINIMIZE time between sets. Ride momentum.
- When you see a hottie, just approach. Pussying out will crash state even MORE than getting blown out.
- Work that confidence, approach with sense of entitlement.
- Have fun, seriously don't stress over PU. You're supposed to have a blast
ALL RIGHT GUYS IT'S BEEN REAL, but time for me to
PEACE
My goal today was to do 3 approaches in 1 hour and that's it. I told myself if I accomplish that then I get to fap for the first time in 57 days.
I meet up with Chris and Brent. We head over to the mall for some day game. Along the way I see 2 girls coming our direction. I open direct, "hey I thought you guys were gorgeous so I had to say hi", they stop in their tracks and shake my hand. I talk for a bit but Chris sees I'm struggling to hold their attention so he comes in to wing me. I freeze out and eventually we let them go.
Brent opens direct on 2 girls. I come in to wing but end up freezing out after shaking their hand. Turns out they were going to some Flo Rida concert. That's some instadate potential but they weren't that hot.
We find Curtis and start walking in circles. We initiate the punching game and I approach with a good 14 seconds left on the clock. Open direct, "hey I thought you guys were hot so I had to say hi". They stop and listen, the hot one shakes my hand. But it's a two set and my wings are nowhere nearby. I try my best to hold them but the uglier one just goes "yeah it was nice meeting you but byeeeeeee".
At one point we run into a guy from TAP. Guy is so chill and centered.
I see this Asian chick, probably the hottest girl I approached today. For some fucking reason I hesitate with direct approach. Open indirect instead, "hey have you seen this guy blah blah blah". She's like "nah sorry I haven't" but then asks me why not just call him. I make up some bullshit excuse and asks her if she's looking for someone as well. Yes she is. I remark that it's fucking hard to find people in a mall, she concurs, I eject.
Then we try to help Curtis with some daygame adjustments. He uses an authentic opener like "Hey how are you?" but girls just keep walking. Gotta TELL them to stop so they'll actually stop and listen to you. The FORCE!
I'm still trying to get my 3rd direct, but I've lost all momentum at this point. Chris actually opens two cuties and tells them I have a huge crush on them but I'm too shy to talk. LOL man it's true. A bit embarrassing but they were pretty cool.
We head toward campus. After a 15 minute walk in the scathing wind I only see two girls. Pussies out on both because I think it's bad logistics to approach in a park when the sun's down. I just don't want to come off as a rapist, especially at my own school. But at this point it's been 2 or 3 hours and I'm still at 2 direct approaches, but to motivate myself I say FUCK IT if I get my 3rd direct I'll call it a day and go home and turn on the computer and FAP!
I see a woman walking in our direction, talking on the phone. There is no other approachable females in sight for blocks so I drop my balls and stop her. Spit my usual. She gives a disgusted look and yells "can't you see I'm on the phone with my husband?". Harsh. Judging by her expression she's just lost all faith in humanity! For the first time ever, I get an instant blowout and it stings real bad. Even with Chris trying to re-validate me I still act all butthurt. Later on I realize I'm still a sensitive bitch and I need to get blown out more to reach that level of IRREVERNCE.
We part ways. On the bus home I sit beside this milf with short red hair. She's reading this book on how to network, yet we make eye contact and she doesn't open me. LOL the irony. After 5 minutes I ask her "how's it going?" She is like "huh???" then realizes what's going on and we talk fluff. This is my second ever approach on the bus and it goes 10x better than the first one. Basically I carry the conversation and talk in statements. Never ran out of things to say!!! At one point she offers me her business card, but I realize I haven't established a MAN-TO-WOMAN connection so her "move" has more business implications than romantic ones. I politely decline but it was nice talking to her. Felt great that I improved so much since my last approach on the bus (which basically ended in awkward silence).
Victories
3 direct approaches
2 indirect approaches
became more comfortable with maintaining a conversation
Lessons
- Harsh blow-outs mean nothing. NEVER act butthurt again.
- Talk as if man-to-woman, not friend-to-friend.
- MINIMIZE time between sets. Ride momentum.
- When you see a hottie, just approach. Pussying out will crash state even MORE than getting blown out.
- Work that confidence, approach with sense of entitlement.
- Have fun, seriously don't stress over PU. You're supposed to have a blast
ALL RIGHT GUYS IT'S BEEN REAL, but time for me to
PEACE
ay dude, first off awesome job yesterday you showed balls, didnt have a day like that till my second month in. just wanted to say that the chick
giving you the business card is code for: "i want to see you again". fuck that man to woman communication shit, your on a bus, that is considered
creep to woman communication, next time she offers just take it, you never know when you'll wanna fuck a milf :)
besides that awesome job!
you showed balls, didnt have a day like that till my second month in. just wanted to say that the chickgiving you the business card is code for: "i want to see you again". fuck that man to woman communication shit, your on a bus, that is considered
creep to woman communication, next time she offers just take it, you never know when you'll wanna fuck a milf :)
besides that awesome job!
I've come to the harsh realization that I need to take a break from this. I hvae a 10 page paper due next week which I haven't started, and 3 exams within the next 2 weeks. I'm at a stage where I can take that next step, but I can't flunk out of school because education is and always will be one of the key pillars of my existence.
See you later guys! I'll be back around mid-April.
See you later guys! I'll be back around mid-April.
March 30, 2012- First Number Close
I'm taking a 30 minute break from studying to update the FR because what happened tonight is uncharted territories for me.
I go to an exam-prep seminar. By chance I see an empty seat between two white girls. OH YEAH!! I jump in and get comfortable. Seminar runs from 6-10, so I got 4 hours to plough with zero possibility to eject. Good test for me.
I open the girl on my left. She's not my ideal type of girl but she's cute and smells nice. I mean the smell is REALLY nice it had me fazed
I open with "hey how's it going?" She gives me an apathetic response, and under normal circumstances I would've ejected right there. But I'm stuck here for 4 hours so I have to plough or sit in awkward silence. I try my best to follow two general principles:
1. Talk in statements
2. Be outside your head
Unfortunately I can't achieve either. After a bit I just run out of things to say so the interview questions start coming in. Good thing she's become more receptive. But nearly the whole time I am digging through my head for what to say next, and thinking before I speak. The vibe just felt wrong, I don't know how to explain it but I felt really incongrent and uncalibrated. Like you're talking for the sake of talking. If anyone can relate, speak up!
She leaves for bathroom break. I don't want to spend the next 5 minutes analyzing so I open the girl to my right. She blows me off right away. Cool. I get up for some fresh air and recollect my thoughts.
We get back and tension starts to cease. She's a playful type and haven't had much sleep so the interaction isn't total fluff like I'm used to. But at the same time I have no idea how to handle it. I'm so used to logical conversations and this girl here is kind of emotional. I definitely sense a light firtatious vibe but I don't escalate because:
1. I don't know how to. (Please help on this.)
2. It's a fucking classroom...
And for the later half of the seminar she's making these soft grunting noises because APPARENTLY she's tired. Okay. I have no idea how to handle this so I let it slide.
Halfway I go for the FB close, she either doesn't hear me or she ignores me. But I keep my cool and manage to get through the next 2 hours without choding myself out. At the end she's about to get up and leave but I refuse to fuck up now. I decisively tell her to hold up, give her my phone, and with this slight grin she keys it in. Then she leaves without saying another word. LOL.
If I just RAN out of the door and didn't say another word everything would've been fine. But I spot my buddy h3 in the crowd and we talk. Somewhere I use the phrase "yeah but she's fat" when referring to a totally different girl, but the girl I just number closed is in the vicinity to hear me. FUCK! She turns around and gives me a death stare.
Lesson learned. Never use the word FAT around ANY girls at all. Still can't believe I'm that socially retarded.
In my mind it's already over at this point. I didn't escalate, didn't establish a man-to-woman connection, didn't express INTENT, so at best she would've been another friend. But I fucked up so even friendship is a stretch right now.
I text her on the way home.
Me: "Hey it's Dave."
Her: "Got it. Stored the number."
Not sure what to make out of that.
Conclusion
- Got my first number close. It's a POSITIVE no matter how you look at it
- Girl was playful but I didn't escalate or express intent
- Felt dependent on outcome. Constantly stuck in my head.
- Botched it up near the end. Need to refine my basic social awareness
Overall I felt this girl was down to fuck, and any intermediate guy would've pulled her in the same situation. But it's okay, I'll take the positives and move on. Hopefully this is the first number out of many more to come.
I'm taking a 30 minute break from studying to update the FR because what happened tonight is uncharted territories for me.
I go to an exam-prep seminar. By chance I see an empty seat between two white girls. OH YEAH!! I jump in and get comfortable. Seminar runs from 6-10, so I got 4 hours to plough with zero possibility to eject. Good test for me.
I open the girl on my left. She's not my ideal type of girl but she's cute and smells nice. I mean the smell is REALLY nice it had me fazed
I open with "hey how's it going?" She gives me an apathetic response, and under normal circumstances I would've ejected right there. But I'm stuck here for 4 hours so I have to plough or sit in awkward silence. I try my best to follow two general principles:1. Talk in statements
2. Be outside your head
Unfortunately I can't achieve either. After a bit I just run out of things to say so the interview questions start coming in. Good thing she's become more receptive. But nearly the whole time I am digging through my head for what to say next, and thinking before I speak. The vibe just felt wrong, I don't know how to explain it but I felt really incongrent and uncalibrated. Like you're talking for the sake of talking. If anyone can relate, speak up!
She leaves for bathroom break. I don't want to spend the next 5 minutes analyzing so I open the girl to my right. She blows me off right away. Cool. I get up for some fresh air and recollect my thoughts.
We get back and tension starts to cease. She's a playful type and haven't had much sleep so the interaction isn't total fluff like I'm used to. But at the same time I have no idea how to handle it. I'm so used to logical conversations and this girl here is kind of emotional. I definitely sense a light firtatious vibe but I don't escalate because:
1. I don't know how to. (Please help on this.)
2. It's a fucking classroom...
And for the later half of the seminar she's making these soft grunting noises because APPARENTLY she's tired. Okay. I have no idea how to handle this so I let it slide.
Halfway I go for the FB close, she either doesn't hear me or she ignores me. But I keep my cool and manage to get through the next 2 hours without choding myself out. At the end she's about to get up and leave but I refuse to fuck up now. I decisively tell her to hold up, give her my phone, and with this slight grin she keys it in. Then she leaves without saying another word. LOL.
If I just RAN out of the door and didn't say another word everything would've been fine. But I spot my buddy h3 in the crowd and we talk. Somewhere I use the phrase "yeah but she's fat" when referring to a totally different girl, but the girl I just number closed is in the vicinity to hear me. FUCK! She turns around and gives me a death stare.
Lesson learned. Never use the word FAT around ANY girls at all. Still can't believe I'm that socially retarded.
In my mind it's already over at this point. I didn't escalate, didn't establish a man-to-woman connection, didn't express INTENT, so at best she would've been another friend. But I fucked up so even friendship is a stretch right now.
I text her on the way home.
Me: "Hey it's Dave."
Her: "Got it. Stored the number."
Not sure what to make out of that.
Conclusion
- Got my first number close. It's a POSITIVE no matter how you look at it
- Girl was playful but I didn't escalate or express intent
- Felt dependent on outcome. Constantly stuck in my head.
- Botched it up near the end. Need to refine my basic social awareness
Overall I felt this girl was down to fuck, and any intermediate guy would've pulled her in the same situation. But it's okay, I'll take the positives and move on. Hopefully this is the first number out of many more to come.
The Danger of Complacency
Consider this my "giving back" to the community. I've always asked for help, opinion, advice, but never truly contributed. This post is made for those struggling to stick to their commitments, for those in a constant battle with their old destructive habits.
I remember a saying from somewhere. "If you're not growing, you're dying." The past week I found new meaning to this.
My journey (or lack thereof) this weekend epitomizes the danger of staying put, not taking action, telling yourself "I'll take a short break so I can come back better than ever".
It's bullshit.
I went from cold approaching girls and hitting new heights to sitting on the couch with a pizza in one hand and my dick in the other, flipping back and forth between sports games and porno flicks. My heart was saying "no no no noooo" but it felt like I had no control of my body. A quite horrifying experience I'm not willing to go through again.
Your mind doesn't always want you to progress. Progression isn't normal, the status quo is. Sometimes your mind will create harmless looking excuses for you take time off.
When you do, there's a pretty good chance you revert back to your chode self. It did for me. As soon as I told myself I'm putting daygame on pause and focusing on my exams, all my old habits started creeping back. I took up porn and masturbation again, I started wasting time on the internet, I started watching meaningless sports games, I started isolating myself from other people like I used to. It's a dangerous slippery slope.
Meanwhile, my buddy Chris is on a 5 month challenge ready to explore UNCHARTED depths (I mean that on two different levels)
I'm no psychologist, but my theory is that approaching girls engages you "cool guy" persona, which also associates with working out, eating healthy, meditating, being productive, etc. etc. When you take a "break", you not only limit your access to approaching, but the other aspects of an awesome lifestyle that comes along with it.
That's why they say pickup is infectious. It pulls your entire life together and brings out the best of you. Next time you think about taking a break because you've reached new heights, ask yourself: "if something's working, why stop it?"
But luckily, regression isn't the end of the world. It's not quite "dying", because with the right mindset, you can come out stronger than before.
For me, it made me realize just how FRAGILE progress is. It made me come up with a new course of action. It cemented the FACT that there is no taking break from being awesome and truly enjoying yourself in such courageous exploits.
Let me say it again. I'd rather be getting blown out by women, i.e. having them tell me "fuck off", "you're weird", "it was nice meeting you but byeeeee", "MISTER PU GUY, Y U NO SEE I'M ON THE PHONE WITH MY HUSBAND??", than being at home doing all the shitty things that's made my life a living hell for the past 18 years.
Enough rant! Here's my new course of action. Inspired by Dave7 and his old routine that set him on his path to glory.
1 interaction a day. Topic or length doesn't matter. Only requirement is the girl must be pretty, and it must be a new girl every time.
This is a continuous challenge. There's no stopping or pausing. If I'm banged up and lying in a hospital bed, I'll talk to the hot nurse and let her know how much I appreciate her service. If I'm in a 20 hour drive to the States, I'll roll up the window say hi to the beautiful chicks jogging into the sweet sunset. Even if I got a 10 page paper due the next day, I'll talk a short walk and hit up the girls on my street.
This starts Wednesday, April 4th. I'll record every interaction, as painfully contrived as they may be.
Consider this my "giving back" to the community. I've always asked for help, opinion, advice, but never truly contributed. This post is made for those struggling to stick to their commitments, for those in a constant battle with their old destructive habits.
I remember a saying from somewhere. "If you're not growing, you're dying." The past week I found new meaning to this.
My journey (or lack thereof) this weekend epitomizes the danger of staying put, not taking action, telling yourself "I'll take a short break so I can come back better than ever".
It's bullshit.
I went from cold approaching girls and hitting new heights to sitting on the couch with a pizza in one hand and my dick in the other, flipping back and forth between sports games and porno flicks. My heart was saying "no no no noooo" but it felt like I had no control of my body. A quite horrifying experience I'm not willing to go through again.
Your mind doesn't always want you to progress. Progression isn't normal, the status quo is. Sometimes your mind will create harmless looking excuses for you take time off.
When you do, there's a pretty good chance you revert back to your chode self. It did for me. As soon as I told myself I'm putting daygame on pause and focusing on my exams, all my old habits started creeping back. I took up porn and masturbation again, I started wasting time on the internet, I started watching meaningless sports games, I started isolating myself from other people like I used to. It's a dangerous slippery slope.
Meanwhile, my buddy Chris is on a 5 month challenge ready to explore UNCHARTED depths (I mean that on two different levels
)I'm no psychologist, but my theory is that approaching girls engages you "cool guy" persona, which also associates with working out, eating healthy, meditating, being productive, etc. etc. When you take a "break", you not only limit your access to approaching, but the other aspects of an awesome lifestyle that comes along with it.
That's why they say pickup is infectious. It pulls your entire life together and brings out the best of you. Next time you think about taking a break because you've reached new heights, ask yourself: "if something's working, why stop it?"
But luckily, regression isn't the end of the world. It's not quite "dying", because with the right mindset, you can come out stronger than before.
For me, it made me realize just how FRAGILE progress is. It made me come up with a new course of action. It cemented the FACT that there is no taking break from being awesome and truly enjoying yourself in such courageous exploits.
Let me say it again. I'd rather be getting blown out by women, i.e. having them tell me "fuck off", "you're weird", "it was nice meeting you but byeeeee", "MISTER PU GUY, Y U NO SEE I'M ON THE PHONE WITH MY HUSBAND??", than being at home doing all the shitty things that's made my life a living hell for the past 18 years.
Enough rant! Here's my new course of action. Inspired by Dave7 and his old routine that set him on his path to glory.
1 interaction a day. Topic or length doesn't matter. Only requirement is the girl must be pretty, and it must be a new girl every time.
This is a continuous challenge. There's no stopping or pausing. If I'm banged up and lying in a hospital bed, I'll talk to the hot nurse and let her know how much I appreciate her service. If I'm in a 20 hour drive to the States, I'll roll up the window say hi to the beautiful chicks jogging into the sweet sunset. Even if I got a 10 page paper due the next day, I'll talk a short walk and hit up the girls on my street.
This starts Wednesday, April 4th. I'll record every interaction, as painfully contrived as they may be.
i made a similar realization a few weeks ago, i saw a girl who i used to think was different then the rest of the girls, only because i liked having conversations with her. we talked and
i saw attributes in her that fucked with my reality. i listened to her backwards rationalize cheating on her bf, i listened to all this bullshit about how because the dude was a friend it wasnt
as bad. right then and there i realized that i could not experience the snapback effect. i realized that i COULDNT not that i wouldnt but i had a physical INCAPABILITY to go back into my old
habits, how could i after i saw that? i saw that it was all a lie, i know now that i can never go back to being a chode, i see the matrix, if i were to go back it would be nothing but self destruction.
your gonna have to see this to FULLY understand but im glad you made this realization, you made it much sooner than me :P
i saw attributes in her that fucked with my reality. i listened to her backwards rationalize cheating on her bf, i listened to all this bullshit about how because the dude was a friend it wasnt
as bad. right then and there i realized that i could not experience the snapback effect. i realized that i COULDNT not that i wouldnt but i had a physical INCAPABILITY to go back into my old
habits, how could i after i saw that? i saw that it was all a lie, i know now that i can never go back to being a chode, i see the matrix, if i were to go back it would be nothing but self destruction.
your gonna have to see this to FULLY understand but im glad you made this realization, you made it much sooner than me :P
Hehe dave dont be so serious. You're right that if you are not growing your are regressiing. I feel it from time to time, luckily Im getting better at snapping out of it asap. Thing is you should not be all serious about it. Just make it a habbit to socialize everyday, not because you have to, but because you want to. Socializing should be fun instead of something you ''have to'' do. Otherwise you will gonna hate it, and not make progress anyway. I think part of being able to do that first approach, is that you are being social in your day to day life.
The Danger of Complacency
Consider this my "giving back" to the community. I've always asked for help, opinion, advice, but never truly contributed. This post is made for those struggling to stick to their commitments, for those in a constant battle with their old destructive habits.
I remember a saying from somewhere. "If you're not growing, you're dying." The past week I found new meaning to this.
My journey (or lack thereof) this weekend epitomizes the danger of staying put, not taking action, telling yourself "I'll take a short break so I can come back better than ever".
It's bullshit.
I went from cold approaching girls and hitting new heights to sitting on the couch with a pizza in one hand and my dick in the other, flipping back and forth between sports games and porno flicks. My heart was saying "no no no noooo" but it felt like I had no control of my body. A quite horrifying experience I'm not willing to go through again.
Your mind doesn't always want you to progress. Progression isn't normal, the status quo is. Sometimes your mind will create harmless looking excuses for you take time off.
When you do, there's a pretty good chance you revert back to your chode self. It did for me. As soon as I told myself I'm putting daygame on pause and focusing on my exams, all my old habits started creeping back. I took up porn and masturbation again, I started wasting time on the internet, I started watching meaningless sports games, I started isolating myself from other people like I used to. It's a dangerous slippery slope.
Meanwhile, my buddy Chris is on a 5 month challenge ready to explore UNCHARTED depths (I mean that on two different levels)
I'm no psychologist, but my theory is that approaching girls engages you "cool guy" persona, which also associates with working out, eating healthy, meditating, being productive, etc. etc. When you take a "break", you not only limit your access to approaching, but the other aspects of an awesome lifestyle that comes along with it.
That's why they say pickup is infectious. It pulls your entire life together and brings out the best of you. Next time you think about taking a break because you've reached new heights, ask yourself: "if something's working, why stop it?"
But luckily, regression isn't the end of the world. It's not quite "dying", because with the right mindset, you can come out stronger than before.
For me, it made me realize just how FRAGILE progress is. It made me come up with a new course of action. It cemented the FACT that there is no taking break from being awesome and truly enjoying yourself in such courageous exploits.
Let me say it again. I'd rather be getting blown out by women, i.e. having them tell me "fuck off", "you're weird", "it was nice meeting you but byeeeee", "MISTER PU GUY, Y U NO SEE I'M ON THE PHONE WITH MY HUSBAND??", than being at home doing all the shitty things that's made my life a living hell for the past 18 years.
Enough rant! Here's my new course of action. Inspired by Dave7 and his old routine that set him on his path to glory.
1 interaction a day. Topic or length doesn't matter. Only requirement is the girl must be pretty, and it must be a new girl every time.
This is a continuous challenge. There's no stopping or pausing. If I'm banged up and lying in a hospital bed, I'll talk to the hot nurse and let her know how much I appreciate her service. If I'm in a 20 hour drive to the States, I'll roll up the window say hi to the beautiful chicks jogging into the sweet sunset. Even if I got a 10 page paper due the next day, I'll talk a short walk and hit up the girls on my street.
This starts Wednesday, April 4th. I'll record every interaction, as painfully contrived as they may be.
Consider this my "giving back" to the community. I've always asked for help, opinion, advice, but never truly contributed. This post is made for those struggling to stick to their commitments, for those in a constant battle with their old destructive habits.
I remember a saying from somewhere. "If you're not growing, you're dying." The past week I found new meaning to this.
My journey (or lack thereof) this weekend epitomizes the danger of staying put, not taking action, telling yourself "I'll take a short break so I can come back better than ever".
It's bullshit.
I went from cold approaching girls and hitting new heights to sitting on the couch with a pizza in one hand and my dick in the other, flipping back and forth between sports games and porno flicks. My heart was saying "no no no noooo" but it felt like I had no control of my body. A quite horrifying experience I'm not willing to go through again.
Your mind doesn't always want you to progress. Progression isn't normal, the status quo is. Sometimes your mind will create harmless looking excuses for you take time off.
When you do, there's a pretty good chance you revert back to your chode self. It did for me. As soon as I told myself I'm putting daygame on pause and focusing on my exams, all my old habits started creeping back. I took up porn and masturbation again, I started wasting time on the internet, I started watching meaningless sports games, I started isolating myself from other people like I used to. It's a dangerous slippery slope.
Meanwhile, my buddy Chris is on a 5 month challenge ready to explore UNCHARTED depths (I mean that on two different levels
)I'm no psychologist, but my theory is that approaching girls engages you "cool guy" persona, which also associates with working out, eating healthy, meditating, being productive, etc. etc. When you take a "break", you not only limit your access to approaching, but the other aspects of an awesome lifestyle that comes along with it.
That's why they say pickup is infectious. It pulls your entire life together and brings out the best of you. Next time you think about taking a break because you've reached new heights, ask yourself: "if something's working, why stop it?"
But luckily, regression isn't the end of the world. It's not quite "dying", because with the right mindset, you can come out stronger than before.
For me, it made me realize just how FRAGILE progress is. It made me come up with a new course of action. It cemented the FACT that there is no taking break from being awesome and truly enjoying yourself in such courageous exploits.
Let me say it again. I'd rather be getting blown out by women, i.e. having them tell me "fuck off", "you're weird", "it was nice meeting you but byeeeee", "MISTER PU GUY, Y U NO SEE I'M ON THE PHONE WITH MY HUSBAND??", than being at home doing all the shitty things that's made my life a living hell for the past 18 years.
Enough rant! Here's my new course of action. Inspired by Dave7 and his old routine that set him on his path to glory.
1 interaction a day. Topic or length doesn't matter. Only requirement is the girl must be pretty, and it must be a new girl every time.
This is a continuous challenge. There's no stopping or pausing. If I'm banged up and lying in a hospital bed, I'll talk to the hot nurse and let her know how much I appreciate her service. If I'm in a 20 hour drive to the States, I'll roll up the window say hi to the beautiful chicks jogging into the sweet sunset. Even if I got a 10 page paper due the next day, I'll talk a short walk and hit up the girls on my street.
This starts Wednesday, April 4th. I'll record every interaction, as painfully contrived as they may be.
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@ Chris Martins: Yeah bro. This "snapback" really made me see how INADEQUATE my former life was. I don't think I can go back even if given the choice.
@ Full_Intent: Exactly, that's why I shyed away from those "approach 10 girls a day" challenges, because you'll come out forced. My minimum-1-interaction-a-day challenge is so fucking attainable that I SHOULD be able to get it done without thinking about it. Though in my last post I probably sounded too serious due to post-fap guilt
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Day 1
Saw two girls walking out of class. I knew one girl but I've been checking out her friend in class for quite some time. So I talk to them! It went okay. They liked my presentation and we talk more about the class in general and all the fun we had even though I never grabbed the balls to talk to them for two whole semesters LOL. Her friend is cool and very chill. I have perfect logistics for the number close but I let them go. Ain't upset in the slightest because my challenge is off to a great start!
I've also decided to implement another challenge to work on my expressiveness and fine tune my speaking style. Every day I'll come up with a few words/phrases/topics and spend 2 minutes talking about them. Aiming to be as natural and authentic as I can and just letting my personality come through. (fucking love this smiley)
@ Full_Intent: Exactly, that's why I shyed away from those "approach 10 girls a day" challenges, because you'll come out forced. My minimum-1-interaction-a-day challenge is so fucking attainable that I SHOULD be able to get it done without thinking about it. Though in my last post I probably sounded too serious due to post-fap guilt
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Day 1
Saw two girls walking out of class. I knew one girl but I've been checking out her friend in class for quite some time. So I talk to them! It went okay. They liked my presentation and we talk more about the class in general and all the fun we had even though I never grabbed the balls to talk to them for two whole semesters LOL. Her friend is cool and very chill. I have perfect logistics for the number close but I let them go. Ain't upset in the slightest because my challenge is off to a great start!
I've also decided to implement another challenge to work on my expressiveness and fine tune my speaking style. Every day I'll come up with a few words/phrases/topics and spend 2 minutes talking about them. Aiming to be as natural and authentic as I can and just letting my personality come through.
(fucking love this smiley)
Angry Dave
Senior Member
Join Date: 09/09/2011 | Posts: 218
@ full_intent 8 meals a day? now i understand why you got so little time :P
March 26, 2012
Did a few campus indirects
In lecture I open cute Asian beside me, strike up conversation but cannot establish momentum because of ongoing lecture. I plan to introduce myself after class but I hesistate for 5 seconds which is enough for her to grab her things and go. Next time I need to be more aggressive...
At student lounge I open a girl beside me. I talk in statements and all she does is nod and say "uh-huh". After a minute of me rambling, she grabs her stuff and leaves. lol I gotta work on my charisma.
At a seminar I open a girl opposite me with "hey how's it going?" She gives me a blank stare and I realize she's bad at English. Okay.
More approaches tomorrow and day game on Wednesday.