THE FORUMS
We'll hit it up during reading week. I'll see if you are really serious about this, not just some random spark of excitement.
All right so tonight I finish my workout, then I hit up a bar for this reddit meetup. 6 guys show up, so I pick up my bag and leave. The organizing dude come running after me and pulls me back in. We strike conversation, and already I’m feeling out of place / not dominating. This is pretty normal for me, being the third string. I’m hoping to step out of this as I progress.
Some girls arrive and I pussy out on HB 9/10. More chode talk with guys. Eventually I man the fuck up and join this 2 set that already had a fat guy there. Funny thing is, he does a lot better than me. I feel myself asking more questions and generally reacting more to the conversation itself rather than leading it. Eye contact and voice is perfect but confidence, entitlement, and a strong reality are totally missing. The girls seem disinterested.
More guys come and it becomes obvious I’m not getting anywhere. Eject!
Sit next to another guy and 2 chicks. One is really hot the other not so. The guy is holding the HB’s attention, so I practice on the other one. After quick introduction, I completely blank out. Literally sat there for like 2 minutes not having anything to say. At this point she’s just watching the other guy talk. 2 minutes later I still haven’t said anything. Fuck, I need to be more spontaneous… I guess it’ll come with time and experience. NEXTTTT!
Move next to HB 8/10 and sees she’s chatting up another guy and the fat guy from before. One guy leaves eventually, so I cut in and introduce myself (next time I’ll go in immediately no questions asked). She mentions she has a boyfriend in the first 30 seconds without me being direct at all (why the fuck do women bring up this shit when I haven’t shown any interest in you?). We talk for a good 3 minute or so but it becomes painfully apparent that I’m more reactive. It’s just general chitchat about school, food, and life. FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I need to be more direct. I joke and neg a few times but it’s uncalibrated. Music gets really loud and no one hears anything anymore (how the hell do you guys manage this?). Eventually she leaves to get a drink.
I sit there looking like a piece of wood for a while. At this point I’m contemplating going home because that’s all the girls from reddit (way too pussy to COLD approach other ones without a good social pretext).
The first 9/10 girl I saw asks me if I want a drink. I tell her I’m 18 and hence underage. She thinks it’s BS and keeps going “are you sure” and shit along those lines. I turn it down and she leaves. WHAT THE FUCK BRAIN…??? Rejecting alcohol is fine but be social/playful while at it!!
Okay so at this point I’m exhausted and leave the bar. I see a guy on the front step that looks like Tyler. Huh!
Victories:
breaking out of my comfort zone
pushing myself and not giving in to lazy habits telling me to eat & go home & sleep
approaching & really not giving a fuck if I get rejected
maintaining a 3 min convo with a HB
staying sober to ensure a full experience
Areas of need:
BE RESPONSIVE, not reacting. Man ACTION; woman reaction. (But hard to take action while sitting down in a bar.)
Learn to lead a conversation and keep a good frame. I should be dominating chodes on/below my level. It’s not happening yet.
Stop being emotionally affected when guys chirp me or try to tool me. This’ll come with more reference points.
Learn to be spontaneous, i.e. stop digging inside my head for what to say next. I’ve lived for 18 years… plenty of shit to talk about. Just trust that it’ll come out!
“I have a boyfriend” or “my boyfriend blah blah blah” IS NOT a signal for you to shut the fuck up and leave.
Stop trying to impress or make the girl laugh, be honest and say whatever shit comes to mind. Don’t worry about calibration at this early stage of the game.
Be more charismatic and vibrant. Cut the monotonous professor impression. YOU ARE AN INTERESTING PERSON, it should be an honour for girls to know you.
Learn to adjust voice according to loudness of music.
Don’t be dejected because one set went bad. Move on to the next. There are plenty of hot girls on this planet, don’t cling to one. IT’S OKAY TO FUCK UP, we all do it, just move on to the next set.
That’s it for Friday! Reading week coming up so I’ll try to hit up Eaton Centre for day game. Can't wait to actually get blown off! I really want to get away from approaching under a social pretext (where blow offs are improbable) to COLD approaches that INEVITABLY yield rejections and a BETTER learning experience.
Some girls arrive and I pussy out on HB 9/10. More chode talk with guys. Eventually I man the fuck up and join this 2 set that already had a fat guy there. Funny thing is, he does a lot better than me. I feel myself asking more questions and generally reacting more to the conversation itself rather than leading it. Eye contact and voice is perfect but confidence, entitlement, and a strong reality are totally missing. The girls seem disinterested.
More guys come and it becomes obvious I’m not getting anywhere. Eject!
Sit next to another guy and 2 chicks. One is really hot the other not so. The guy is holding the HB’s attention, so I practice on the other one. After quick introduction, I completely blank out. Literally sat there for like 2 minutes not having anything to say. At this point she’s just watching the other guy talk. 2 minutes later I still haven’t said anything. Fuck, I need to be more spontaneous… I guess it’ll come with time and experience. NEXTTTT!
Move next to HB 8/10 and sees she’s chatting up another guy and the fat guy from before. One guy leaves eventually, so I cut in and introduce myself (next time I’ll go in immediately no questions asked). She mentions she has a boyfriend in the first 30 seconds without me being direct at all (why the fuck do women bring up this shit when I haven’t shown any interest in you?). We talk for a good 3 minute or so but it becomes painfully apparent that I’m more reactive. It’s just general chitchat about school, food, and life. FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I need to be more direct. I joke and neg a few times but it’s uncalibrated. Music gets really loud and no one hears anything anymore (how the hell do you guys manage this?). Eventually she leaves to get a drink.
I sit there looking like a piece of wood for a while. At this point I’m contemplating going home because that’s all the girls from reddit (way too pussy to COLD approach other ones without a good social pretext).
The first 9/10 girl I saw asks me if I want a drink. I tell her I’m 18 and hence underage. She thinks it’s BS and keeps going “are you sure” and shit along those lines. I turn it down and she leaves. WHAT THE FUCK BRAIN…??? Rejecting alcohol is fine but be social/playful while at it!!
Okay so at this point I’m exhausted and leave the bar. I see a guy on the front step that looks like Tyler. Huh!
Victories:
breaking out of my comfort zone
pushing myself and not giving in to lazy habits telling me to eat & go home & sleep
approaching & really not giving a fuck if I get rejected
maintaining a 3 min convo with a HB
staying sober to ensure a full experience
Areas of need:
BE RESPONSIVE, not reacting. Man ACTION; woman reaction. (But hard to take action while sitting down in a bar.)
Learn to lead a conversation and keep a good frame. I should be dominating chodes on/below my level. It’s not happening yet.
Stop being emotionally affected when guys chirp me or try to tool me. This’ll come with more reference points.
Learn to be spontaneous, i.e. stop digging inside my head for what to say next. I’ve lived for 18 years… plenty of shit to talk about. Just trust that it’ll come out!
“I have a boyfriend” or “my boyfriend blah blah blah” IS NOT a signal for you to shut the fuck up and leave.
Stop trying to impress or make the girl laugh, be honest and say whatever shit comes to mind. Don’t worry about calibration at this early stage of the game.
Be more charismatic and vibrant. Cut the monotonous professor impression. YOU ARE AN INTERESTING PERSON, it should be an honour for girls to know you.
Learn to adjust voice according to loudness of music.
Don’t be dejected because one set went bad. Move on to the next. There are plenty of hot girls on this planet, don’t cling to one. IT’S OKAY TO FUCK UP, we all do it, just move on to the next set.
That’s it for Friday! Reading week coming up so I’ll try to hit up Eaton Centre for day game. Can't wait to actually get blown off! I really want to get away from approaching under a social pretext (where blow offs are improbable) to COLD approaches that INEVITABLY yield rejections and a BETTER learning experience.
ALL RIGHT here's some goals I'm setting. Long list, really suggests how fucked up my life has been.
- Continue work outs. NO EXCUSES. Adopt that "I'd rather die" attitude.
- Keeping eating and bulking. Get to 130 lbs then settle at 140.
- Be more productive. Cut games, reddit, facebook, manga, american politics, and other bullshit that waste time.
- Actively search for a job so I can stop living in the suburbs with my chode parents and get a downtown apartment for my second year (then it's 30 day challenge muthafuckers)
- Start going to clubs when I turn 19.
- Start going to malls NOW.
- Read Atlus Shrugged, The Power of Now, and Six Pillars of Self-Esteem.
- Start meditation.
- Learn some life skills: cook, clean, laundry; I don't have the luxury of some bitch doing that for me.
- Take care of academics; get that 4.0 gpa that I'm perfectly capable of.
- Cut off contact with chodes that are negative & discouraging
- In class, ALWAYS take the liberty to troll the hot girl sitting next to me :P
- Go to more school organized events & extracurriculars: easier approaches and longer conversation
- Learn how to number close and get hugs.
READY SET GO
- Continue work outs. NO EXCUSES. Adopt that "I'd rather die" attitude.
- Keeping eating and bulking. Get to 130 lbs then settle at 140.
- Be more productive. Cut games, reddit, facebook, manga, american politics, and other bullshit that waste time.
- Actively search for a job so I can stop living in the suburbs with my chode parents and get a downtown apartment for my second year (then it's 30 day challenge muthafuckers)
- Start going to clubs when I turn 19.
- Start going to malls NOW.
- Read Atlus Shrugged, The Power of Now, and Six Pillars of Self-Esteem.
- Start meditation.
- Learn some life skills: cook, clean, laundry; I don't have the luxury of some bitch doing that for me.
- Take care of academics; get that 4.0 gpa that I'm perfectly capable of.
- Cut off contact with chodes that are negative & discouraging
- In class, ALWAYS take the liberty to troll the hot girl sitting next to me :P
- Go to more school organized events & extracurriculars: easier approaches and longer conversation
- Learn how to number close and get hugs.
READY SET GO
NICE
Went day game today with h3. Did zero approaches. Like fuck, I pussied out 7 times, it’s all stupid excuses like “oh it’s weird”, “she’s looking away”, “but people are watching”, “she’s too hot”, etc. etc.
Wing got some good results despite feeling ill. Proud of you man!
Ran into Chris Martins and M-Star. I think we were too slow and lost them in the crowd…
On the subway home I get the shittiest feeling ever. It feels like a naked chick is standing right in front of you, but you can’t muster the courage to reach out and grab her because you’re afraid some mysterious cosmic force might strike down on you. Such bullshit... THERE IS NO PHYSICAL BARRIER, only the illusionary ones I created for myself. I guess it’s just typical anxiety issues I’ve yet to conquer.
Also spotted 2 decent girls on the subway, completely unoccupied. Should’ve approached, but bad momentum from earlier held me back. It’s like a little anxiety in the beginning just snowballs. I’ve gotta get into the habit of approaching consistently and brushing my fears aside.
Nothing new in this update, just ranting about how much I sucked. I just refuse to excuse myself for pulling this faggotry:
>spend 4 hours going downtown
>does not approach
OH OKAY
… time would’ve been better spent masturbating.
Victories
There are no victories when you don’t approach.
Lessons
- There are no victories when you don’t approach.
- A simple two step process:
1. Shut the fuck up. Tune out those bullshit voices in your head.
2. Go up to the girl and ask generic question about direction, and let it roll from there.
- Set some goals before going out. Don’t be like “oh I’ll approach when I feel like it”. No, set an actual number so you don’t unconsciously pussy out.
- People watching don’t mean shit. They’re not going to call cops on you because you decide to stop being a chode.
- At this point, even saying ONE WORD to a stranger would be a success.
THAT'S ALL. So mad at myself right now... I hope to deliver a more substantive report on Friday.
Wing got some good results despite feeling ill. Proud of you man!
Ran into Chris Martins and M-Star. I think we were too slow and lost them in the crowd…
On the subway home I get the shittiest feeling ever. It feels like a naked chick is standing right in front of you, but you can’t muster the courage to reach out and grab her because you’re afraid some mysterious cosmic force might strike down on you. Such bullshit... THERE IS NO PHYSICAL BARRIER, only the illusionary ones I created for myself. I guess it’s just typical anxiety issues I’ve yet to conquer.
Also spotted 2 decent girls on the subway, completely unoccupied. Should’ve approached, but bad momentum from earlier held me back. It’s like a little anxiety in the beginning just snowballs. I’ve gotta get into the habit of approaching consistently and brushing my fears aside.
Nothing new in this update, just ranting about how much I sucked. I just refuse to excuse myself for pulling this faggotry:
>spend 4 hours going downtown
>does not approach
OH OKAY
… time would’ve been better spent masturbating.
Victories
There are no victories when you don’t approach.
Lessons
- There are no victories when you don’t approach.
- A simple two step process:
1. Shut the fuck up. Tune out those bullshit voices in your head.
2. Go up to the girl and ask generic question about direction, and let it roll from there.
- Set some goals before going out. Don’t be like “oh I’ll approach when I feel like it”. No, set an actual number so you don’t unconsciously pussy out.
- People watching don’t mean shit. They’re not going to call cops on you because you decide to stop being a chode.
- At this point, even saying ONE WORD to a stranger would be a success.
THAT'S ALL. So mad at myself right now... I hope to deliver a more substantive report on Friday.
Keep up the good work man!! :) Don't be too hard on yourself, try to enjoy the growth- getting there is half of the fun...
Peace be the journey!!
Zero
Peace be the journey!!
Zero
Dude, you went out today, that in itself was a victory. When you pussy out so many times, you get so much pain and you eventually step up.
February 24, 2012
Nothing eventful, but I had to share my hilarious transit experience on the way back home from campus.
This girl, probably around an 8 despite too much makeup, sits right in front me while I'm standing. She does nothing, no phone, no music, no book or paper. Just sits there bored as hell. I tell myself to troll the fuck out of her, but can't muster the courage. Typical, but at least I thought long and hard about approaching. Before this stuff wasn't even in my reality, so that's a good improvement :)
Midway she takes off her jacket, and accidently reveals full cleavage to me. She doesn't realize, but I'm now standing there, like 2 feet away from her, with a full raging boner (no fap February works wonders :P). Still no words come out. She knows I'm just checking her out, and she looks at me like every 5 seconds. Sexual tension building but I can't capitalize.
I get off the subway kinda disappointed, but it was pretty funny how I stood there the whole time obviously staring at a girl. Next time I'm going for it.
On the bus I decide to redeem myself. The woman beside me is old, but who gives a fuck? I'm just trying to get into the comfort of cold approaching. I ask to read her newspaper, and drop some good remarks. She talks meekly, so I sense she's scared shitless since I opened too strong. haha I don't bother her no more. SECOND cold approach ever and this lasted more than 10 seconds. Proud of myself for speaking up finally.
Reading week's over. I would've liked more day game but it's cool. I'm slowly shifting into the "approaching mindset", and it's no longer like "oh I hope I'll meet a girl by chance and ask her out and she'll say yes and we'll be together and I'll get laid without improving my social skills". Nah bro. You're doing this not to just get good with woman, but to improve yourself as person and live to your fullest potential.
PEACE
Nothing eventful, but I had to share my hilarious transit experience on the way back home from campus.
This girl, probably around an 8 despite too much makeup, sits right in front me while I'm standing. She does nothing, no phone, no music, no book or paper. Just sits there bored as hell. I tell myself to troll the fuck out of her, but can't muster the courage. Typical, but at least I thought long and hard about approaching. Before this stuff wasn't even in my reality, so that's a good improvement :)
Midway she takes off her jacket, and accidently reveals full cleavage to me. She doesn't realize, but I'm now standing there, like 2 feet away from her, with a full raging boner (no fap February works wonders :P). Still no words come out. She knows I'm just checking her out, and she looks at me like every 5 seconds. Sexual tension building but I can't capitalize.
I get off the subway kinda disappointed, but it was pretty funny how I stood there the whole time obviously staring at a girl. Next time I'm going for it.
On the bus I decide to redeem myself. The woman beside me is old, but who gives a fuck? I'm just trying to get into the comfort of cold approaching. I ask to read her newspaper, and drop some good remarks. She talks meekly, so I sense she's scared shitless since I opened too strong. haha I don't bother her no more. SECOND cold approach ever and this lasted more than 10 seconds. Proud of myself for speaking up finally.
Reading week's over. I would've liked more day game but it's cool. I'm slowly shifting into the "approaching mindset", and it's no longer like "oh I hope I'll meet a girl by chance and ask her out and she'll say yes and we'll be together and I'll get laid without improving my social skills". Nah bro. You're doing this not to just get good with woman, but to improve yourself as person and live to your fullest potential.
PEACE
Damn. Thus an angry asian pimp was born.
Keep that stuff going man. Hit it hard.
Keep that stuff going man. Hit it hard.
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Damn she revealed her full cleavage. Mad jealous of you. I only see them on the Internet.
Angry Dave
Senior Member
Join Date: 09/09/2011 | Posts: 218
What really snapped me was this excruciating experience on the bus two weeks ago. Long story short I spotted this hot babe 8/10 looking bored out of her mind and she kept looking in my direction as if daring me to approach. I pussied out and never felt shittier in my life. I cried myself to sleep that night, telling myself enough is enough: no more excuses or bullshit, I’m fucken DOING this.
Believe me when I say I'm a REAL beginner. I have glasses, acne, and a habit of being too hard on myself. Well why shouldn't I? I've never had a girlfriend. In fact I've never kissed or hugged any girl. People from high school think I'm a hopeless virgin. All you chodes out there, TRY TO TOP THAT
SO THERE, CHODE CONFESSION COMPLETE. it's time for me to channel my inner fury and start approaching girls. Let the games begin!