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May 25th, 2013
What causes girls to check you out and smile at you wherever you go? Is energy real? Is it state? Lack of desperation?
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Yoda

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Hello all,

Some interesting thoughts and ideas here that needs further discussion.

Johnny Drama: “Pussy smells pussy.”

Brent Smith” Indifference is the difference that truly makes the difference”

The only thing that was truly different for me yesterday is that there is this girl that is chasing me and being very interested at the moment. May it be as simple as that?

Yorro:
- It is feeling totally comfortable in your own skin. What`s most important is this internal comfort and carefree attitude.
- Oblivious to everything around and no pinging off other people.
- No looking around for potential danger (i.e., being nervous?)
- No scanning the place for girls (needy behavior?)
- You feel at home (wherever you go, the world is your backyard)

Very good stuff yorro, I think you`re hitting some key stuff here. I added some comments in parantheses.

Lux Lisbon:
- I get most girls giving me or returning my eyecontact when I`m NOT smiling, but feeling badass and looking at them like I want to rip their clothes off…
- Smiling and looking friendly, BEFORE I open my mouth has NEVER worked for me.

This is interesting, but I don`t know if it is the complete truth, although it rings true with regards to my experience yesterday. I think smiling and looking friendly is only bad if you`re looking to get something out of it (i.e., a smile in return or eyecontact). Is that what you guys call pinging? If you`re smiling because you are genuinely feeling like it, I don`t think that could hurt, but I don`t know.
For me, I know that it was not about style or looks alone, because I looked exactly the same yesterday as I`ve been looking the last 5 weeks. My new haircut was concealed by my cap, so that was not it for sure.

Radikal:
- Non-neediness = state
- Being in state has many benefits, but it`s not necessary, especially if you`re out of state: sad after a funeral, dog died, tired from work, worried, etc.

I may agree on the worry part, but I`m not sure if internal feelings like sad or happy is the determinant. Sure, it does not hurt to be happy, but I think the non-neediness is the most important part of the equation. Yesterday, I was feeling a little down actually, but the previous weeks I have have had many days where I have been whistling and singing in the streets because I have felt very happy or even “in state”.
I remember a PUA called Razorjack who used to say “fuck state”. His rationale was that even if he felt like he was not “on” or even sad, he was still himself, which inherently is a very attractive person. Thus, he decided to talk to girls even if he was not in state. Btw, he said that he never looked for IOIs or waited for them either, but usually got plenty.

Ambiguity:
I will look up the unreactive thread, law of least effort and wear the crown thread, provided I can find them. Thank you.
- If you seek attention from females, AIs, IOIs, it does not happen. It goes away because it is a form of outcome dependency (interesting and makes sense, I guess this is neediness in a nutshell?)
- I don`t try to pull. I pull.
- I don`t chase. I replace.
- Mate, I just know it`s going to happen and I let it.

Very nice, brother. This tells me a lot about your beliefs about yourself and that there is no doubt in your mind that you will get the girl. No doubt crucial for a tight inner game and a good state.

So, are we coming to any conclusions here? How important is happiness, smiling, etc? Is it the internal beliefs about yourself and your own self-worth that composes such a state regardless if you`re feeling happy or not?

How would you feel if you had just had a gang-bang with a whole group of cheerleaders and your dick is so sore that is about to fall off? Sexually satisfied? On top of the world? No need whatsoever?

What does a rockstar walking down the street think about himself?

The only thing I know is that I want to learn how to cultivate this state and way of being. I was at a much higher level a few years back, but being out of the game for a while have put me back a little with a resulting decrease in state. I think it all starts here. With state, there is not much game at all.

All thoughts are appreciated.

Kind regards,

John
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ambiguity

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Yoda wrote:

Ambiguity:
I will look up the unreactive thread, law of least effort and wear the crown thread, provided I can find them. Thank you.
- If you seek attention from females, AIs, IOIs, it does not happen. It goes away because it is a form of outcome dependency (interesting and makes sense, I guess this is neediness in a nutshell?)
- I don`t try to pull. I pull.
- I don`t chase. I replace.
- Mate, I just know it`s going to happen and I let it.

Very nice, brother. This tells me a lot about your beliefs about yourself and that there is no doubt in your mind that you will get the girl. No doubt crucial for a tight inner game and a good state.

So, are we coming to any conclusions here? How important is happiness, smiling, etc? Is it the internal beliefs about yourself and your own self-worth that composes such a state regardless if you`re feeling happy or not?

How would you feel if you had just had a gang-bang with a whole group of cheerleaders and your dick is so sore that is about to fall off? Sexually satisfied? On top of the world? No need whatsoever?

What does a rockstar walking down the street think about himself?

The only thing I know is that I want to learn how to cultivate this state and way of being. I was at a much higher level a few years back, but being out of the game for a while have put me back a little with a resulting decrease in state. I think it all starts here. With state, there is not much game at all.

All thoughts are appreciated.

Kind regards,

John


John mate, there is so much to be excited about in life.

Look at Tim or Alex or any of the rsd crew? They are so unnaturally enthusiastic for life.

The same goes for any natural or anyone in pick up that is successful.

Basically, we are handed cards, talents, potential, looks, all things outside our control.

All I do is increase chances of pulling.

At times I have faced adversity on the forums which is the consequences of being a cheeky cunt.

That and my being self aware, comfortable in my own skin, and confident.


I posted once about being out of state, not feeling it, and yet, I plow through it.

Out of the corner of my eye, I see this bombshell on the dance floor moving in, approach invitation, and I don't budge.

A chode moves in and grinds on her but, she keeps moving closer, and then BAM, she bull rushes me with her ass against the wall.

I got from one sec out of state to my ego going nuts, bumping my state, making out, and fingering this chick on the dance floor, and I pull.

Where did this come from? Things just happen and likely, we were both feeling the same out of state feeling, and we just came in sync with what we wanted.


Mate, the cheerleader gang bang thing be cool for a single man.

Late last year, I got banned from the forum for no apparent reason or warning.

At which time, I pulled a SMOKE SHOW inside and out. The sort of girl I recognize my counter balance in.

I now refer to her as my gf. The point of this was to gravitate quality women, to better my game, to be on top form all the time, and cultivate that proper lifestyle of my choosing.

Now, years down the road, I have superseded my natural game, blown past sticking points, and reached new heights. A relationship is just a new learning curve.

Remember, game is a form of self expression, it is an art meant to be unique, and original. Let rsd crew inspire you but, understand it is not what you say or do but, where it comes from that matters.

Credit Tyler for bringing me back. Banned and I land a gf.


Guys on the forum call me out to elaborate the origin of SMOKE SHOW, which consists of a girl saying how hot I am and "he is such a SMOKE SHOW!"

So, I add the story or value, again some form of self expression and in turn, forum guys attack and talk shit.

During that time, I am in star bucks being picked up by a girl at the same time people are trolling and talking shit over a pick up forum.

I wont even call them out but, this again is a pick up forum, we can agree to disagree respectfully with one another but, that is not the way of the forums or the lost causes.

I understand not everyone is successful in pick up or not everyone is good looking or gets approach invitations or girls picking them up.

The typical response is people project their insecurities and have nots on those who are successful.

The irony never fails to amaze me, ridicule while being picked up or banned off the forum for no reason, land gf?


My advice to you is let the rsd crew inspire you, fake it till you make it, tap into the resources you have at your disposal but, know it is all about you.

Know that fake it till you make it only gets you so far and at some point, you have to actually make it and be that guy.

A lot of these things, the fall backs, and sticking points auto correct themselves as Jeffy says.

Remember that Game is an art, its not just pulling SMOKE SHOWs and stunners.

Its about self expression, not scared, game being art, and your willingness to share it with the world.

I pulled a stunning girl in NYC @ a jets game doing the robbery on her parents.

Every time the Jets would score, land a touch down or almost score, she would get all excited, all bubbly, and fuck, i wanted her.

The stadium was full of gorgeous girls but, mate, I wanted her and no parent figures or any excuse would stop this from happening.


Sometimes, your maps aligh like Ozzie said, it just happened. Mate, In that instant, I was on top form, bloody brilliant, eloquent, and nothing could stop me.

But, understand that being eloquent or bloody brilliant, top form is nice but, not a prerequisite of game, Game is not just pulling but, your life, living your dreams of your choosing.

Video tape yourself, take photos, and watch the changes that happen naturally. I am doing some video editing for myself, multi media, and if I ever am single again, it reminds me of what I am capable of doing.

Know you will have fall backs. "What would you do if you were out of control" is a example of that, top form one instance, and fall from grace in another.

Its life mate, the highs, the lows, they center us, give us balance, and put things back into perspective.

Be in alignment with your core purpose, your motivational driving force in life, and never lose sight of that. Women can come and go. I am going to do big things with or without them.

Simply, you got to be willing to lose the girl to get the girl. It is paradoxical as is life.

-happy hunting!
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Tyler:This is ultimately one of the keys to the game -- viewing EVERYTHING AS A JOKE. It's ALL funny.

Tim:`How can I make this fun?
brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later.
Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!

Alex: "The famous ambiguity!" + "This is what happens when your naturally attractive; cheekyinnit#!
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Yoda

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Ambiguity: It`s about self expression, not scared, game being art, and your willingness to share it with the world.
 
Thank you for your good words and sorry that I`m late to get back at you. I`ve been living out of suitcase for the last weeks and only a few days ago got settled in my new apartment.

I have been on top of things in the past, but the truth is that being out of the game for a while have made me more than a little rusty. It is true that it is important for a man to have a purpose that is more important than chasing tail, but in my experience, it is of essence to stay in the game in order to stay on top of things. It is not like I suck right now, I`m just not quite where I was or want to be.

My focus to get back on track will be to work on the inner stuff, which is what matters in the end in my experience. If I remember correctly, I used to get good results from visualization, meditation and visualization.

Kind regards,

John
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Yoda

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 Good observations. I agree.

Maybe smiling is more important for a guy who may look more threatening. Different strokes for different people I guess.

Kind regards,

John
Lux Lisbon wrote:
 @Yoda

There's not much of me - height-wise, I'm probably smaller than the majority of fellas on here. As a result, when I've been all happy-and-smiley-and-going Funtime Frankie on their asses, I do not come across to a girl as a sexual threat, nor do I feel like one, either. I just end up feeling and coming across as too fucking NICE.

However, when I'm looking like a badass, seriously eye-fucking these girls, my whole body fizzing with lust like a bottle of coke that has been kicked around the street, that's when I get the best reactions and that's when I feel MOST aligned with my true self.

I do like to have fun and I do like to smile, but there's a time and a place for that. To be honest,  most of the time I spend alone, because I love myself and my own company more than anything else in the whole world and, on these occasions, I am not smiling and cracking jokes but I'm still having fun and being turned on by how smart, cool, and awesome I am.

In my experience, when it comes to pick-up: smiling, talking, or doing anything much at all is vastly overrated and unnecessary.
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Yoda wrote:
Hello all,

After living in a new city for 5 weeks I have not been getting much good eyecontact, smiles or indicators of interest if you will. It has almost been unusual and a little weird for me and to be honest, I have not had much action at all.

Suddenly, today I`ve had more eyecontact, smiles, girls checking me out, etc, than I`ve had in the last 4 weeks combined. A girl I checked out in the gym and got good eyecontact with, suddenly was standing right beside me and doing some stupid exercise while looking at me. I caught her looking at me several times. Another example was this girl who gave me a great smile at the grocery store, even though I was absolutely exhausted and not smiling after a very hard workout.

I know what you mean, one day girls aren't paying you the slightest bit of attention the next day you have the MOJO.  You try to replicate what you did that day when you were "MOJO" and you shoot yourself in the foot.

Be careful of this frame though, I hate it when my mates say "See that chick? She was checking me out!" They then feel good about themselves. I call it "approval pinging." They are looking at girls, hoping that they are checking them out (giving IOI's) and regardless they never have the balls to approach....
I strive to be completely indifferent as to whether girls are checking me out or not. I could care less.
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ambiguity

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Mate, I cannot speak for everyone but, for me, its being good looking and having game.

A lot of which comes through circumstances and cultivating game, leveling up, and learning through experience.

Now, before finding the community, it was mostly approach invitations, girls checking me out or social circle game.

As I got more experienced and learn about cold approach, false time restraints, etc I became more aware of the many blessings I have been given.


Yoda mate, make yourself familiar with the law of least effort. A flower doesn't try to grow. It grows. I don't try to pull. I pull.

With approach invitations, it goes back to what Tyler said about freedom of outcome + Intent. Now, if you seek attention, believe me, even with looks, it disappears.

Why? Cause you are needy, outcome dependent, and seeking validation which is so unattractive whereas, when it happens, its natural, spontaneous, real and not forced or contrived.

I am naturally attractive so, it will happen as it may but, the focus of course is cold approach and cementing myself. I take it as it comes but, I am putting my work in.

-happy hunting!
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Jlaix: You are rather cheeky I admit but the self amusing authentic avi makes it impossible to hate!
Tyler:This is ultimately one of the keys to the game -- viewing EVERYTHING AS A JOKE. It's ALL funny.

Tim:`How can I make this fun?
brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later.
Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!

Alex: "The famous ambiguity!" + "This is what happens when your naturally attractive; cheekyinnit#!
Ambiguity: I don't chase, I replace.



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Since writing this thread, my "results" have been very erratic to say it midly.

I remembered this thread, since today was one of those days where girls BLATANTLY checked me out and responded positively to me. Cashiers came over and talked to me. Not random glances at the street, but blatant and repeated staring. One girl in particular looked at me constantly. Every time I looked her way she was looking at me and when she left the coffee shop I was at, she turned her head to look at me one last time.

What the hell is going on here? This should be my default state and not something that happens every blue moon.

1. I was dressed fairly OK, but nothing fantastic.

2. I was in a fun mood and very unattached to the outcome wearing a half-smile. I don`t think I was even thinking about picking up girls and I was just out with my 5 year old nephew having fun. My attitude when I saw a girl was :"You`re incredibly cute and we could have great fun together, but if you don`t like me, I could not care less and I still think you`re cute and a little funny."

Is energy real? Does girls pick this up?

There are days where I just feel like I want to be left alone and am not really in a mood to even care about girls and really unattached, but I do not receive IOIs like happened today. Maybe the fun and good mood part is the missing ingredient. Or maybe I subconsciously am seeking approval, validation and being attached. Or maybe this is all random?

Thoughts?

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Chill status is what attracts women. Feeling comfortable in your own skin.....

Benig content and satisfied - thats attractive.
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