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Flypp

Flypp

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Join Date: 01/14/2012 | Posts: 256

Many guys post up FRs that are smooth as hell, or only contain good sets. I am only starting out, so the first 300 post will be me laughing about my SHITTY GAME.

SHITTY GAME????

The first three months or so will be about inner game, getting in there and see that someone as chode as Flypp can get the balls together, GO OUT and TALK TO PEOPLE. I will edit this one of these days, in order to say something about myself, which I know MANY of you guys starting out in their low 20s can relate to. Understanding me more, will help you understand yourself more. What I can tell you is that I basically came out of a cave of the non-social being, on top of being a socially anxious person since I'm 10 or whatever. So yeah, pretty shitty.

RECAP OF WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE I FINALLY GOT HERE:
1) watched blueprint decoded. DUH!!
2) read some books (7 habits, power of now)
3) really going out since a looooooooooooooooooong lazy time. And this is where the flashback FRs start at the next post.

I am in this city in Holland because I am doing my degree here. ROTTERDAM, BABY!

GOALS
1) Work on building that self-esteem. That includes fighting negative thought loops, and getting out of my head and into the moment. Be EXPRESSIVE.
2) Be a man of action. Proactivity makes me feel strong and alive and will help with 1). MAKE SHIT HAPPEN.
3) Build a smoking social circle. NO HIDING
5) Go out 4+ nights a week. 30 min nights are allowed and count, but there will be 2+ real deal party pimping. STAMINA

From here on AWESOMENESS
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Flypp

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SOME DAY THREE WEEKS AGO:
for the first time I went out in a loooong time, after I was invited by guys, that I will refer to as the greek naturals, because they are straight up natural players. We went to Cafe Pol, where people are way too fucking old and boring, but at least you can talk fine. There was a group of girls by the door, having their own fun. And I get stared and danced at right away, *DAMN chode Flypp.. what to DOOOO?????!!!?!?!* yeah, smile and act along I guess, only thing I am fucking genious at, smile and play along and seem cool about all the shit that goes on.

Started talking to one of the girls, she asked about my shiney Vikings baseball hat that I was wearing (NO ONE in holland wears hats, they absolutely despise them, which I love. Mine is shiney black, It's pretty much the coolest hat on earth). Goes back and forth about the states a little, no kino, no nada, no dominance, just plain chode happy to hold a convo for 3 minutes. I was probably an approval seeking slut, when I think back about it.  (FUCK this was only 3 weeks ago).

I hated it and went home.


SOME DAY TWO WEEKS AGO
going out with two non-game guys to Pol, I was stoned and drunk. I was so f($%*% D UP I knocked my own beer off my table laughing obnoxiously loud when a thought hit me. Had something to do with SCREAMING SO FUCKING LOUD EEEEEE...The guys said I made some superloud high pitched noise (and believe I am totally amazingly crazy now) that everyone stopped talking and looking at me. All I know I loved it. It's not easy doing crazy shit for me, but it's definitely starting to get hella funny.

Same night I went on to meet up at BIRD with the greek naturals. Nice place, music was mint. Greek natural pushes me to start talking to girls "what?" "yeah" "what the hell do you say?" "whatever comes up in your mind...". Srsly, the problem witht his for me is, that shit just doesn't come up in my mind. See number 1) of my GOALS, I need to cultivate it. However, still manage to crack some bullshit story:

Cute girl dancing with a beer without any foam:
Flypp: "You're a LOOOONG drinker!"
LongDrinker: What?
F: *starts playful bullshit how shes never gonna have the beer moustache of a true champion, and how she should finish the shit right away
LD: smiles at me and drinks
F: *kino
LD: likes it at first then not so much
F: *chode out and pull out, back to group
+20 seconds
LD making out with some guy right behind my back. ME; wtf. gay. lol.

-> and here is where it started ladies and gentlemen. Flypp's year of the game.

Keep dancing, and say s.th. (really no clue what) to a girl, when I notice she's super fat. Alright, I don't care, so I am mega laid back, and see how uber excited she is. I pull her in firmly, dance a little than do my own thing for a bit, (cuz I feel like it) then probably say something random. She's totally digs it. Fatty is an uber nerd. Turns out she's 28, Swedish (DANG EVEN THERE THINGS ARE CHANGING...) and she knows what she wants, as she pulls me to the bar and ask for paper and a pen, and it's funny how she politely stares down the bartender to keep looking and get it for her. SHE scribbles down some email addresses or whatever. I even put that stuff in my cell phone but will NEVER find it, cuz I have NO CLUE what her name was. And it's quite nice to not give a fuck. Kinda glad the fatty thing went down. Very relaxing experience for me. And entertaining, which is crucial for me, since I am rarely actually free of expectations,where I just enjoy being calmly entertained for myself. Tell her and her cute friend to come to Perron, double claw, they like it a bit, we get out.

Perron is a crazy club. 10EUR is totally not worth it, but it's underground scene and people are crazy. Stoned as hell I go home after an hour. Now, street beasting? Fuck that man, that shit seems terrifying to me, still now, and especially by if I picture doing it by myself.
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newstuff18

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Hell ya man.

That's funny about the smooth FRs, it literally intimidated me when I was reading over some of them. I was like, ok this “noob guy” is doing a journal …. then he proceeds to kill it every night (at least relatively). There were hardly any posts on “ok, went to a bar, didn’t do shit, left”. Yea that would be a shitty post, but at least it would show guys some of the  some of the realities of this.

Go for it hard man, Yea!
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Flypp

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 ADDITION TO THE NIGHT:

THE FATTY!!!

I keep dancing, and say s.th. (really no clue what) to a girl, when I notice she's super fat. Alright, I don't care, so I am mega laid back, and see how uber excited she is. I pull her in firmly, dance a little than do my own thing for a bit, (cuz I feel like it) then probably say something random. She's totally digs it. Fatty is an uber nerd. Turns out she's 28, Swedish (DANG EVEN THERE THINGS ARE CHANGING...) and she knows what she wants, as she pulls me to the bar and ask for paper and a pen, and it's funny how she politely stares down the bartender to keep looking and get it for her. SHE scribbles down some email addresses or whatever. I even put that stuff in my cell phone but will NEVER find it, cuz I have NO CLUE what her name was. And it's quite nice to not give a fuck. Kinda glad the fatty thing went down. Very relaxing experience for me. And entertaining, which is crucial for me, since I am rarely actually free of expectations,where I just enjoy being calmly entertained for myself. Tell her and her cute friend to come to Perron, double claw, they like it a bit, we get out.

Perron is a crazy club. 10EUR is totally not worth it, but it's underground scene and people are crazy. Stoned as hell I go home after an hour. Now, street beasting? Fuck that man, that shit seems terrifying to me, still now, and especially by if I picture doing it by myself.
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Flypp

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I want people and the future ME to see what you can do, even when coming from a shitty mindset. Looked at your FRs, with the attitude you'll make mad progress. Don't slack off, hit the shit, till they kick you out of that club. happened to me last week lol..... fuckers :P.
newstuff18 wrote:
Hell ya man.

That's funny about the smooth FRs, it literally intimidated me when I was reading over some of them. I was like, ok this “noob guy” is doing a journal …. then he proceeds to kill it every night (at least relatively). There were hardly any posts on “ok, went to a bar, didn’t do shit, left”. Yea that would be a shitty post, but at least it would show guys some of the  some of the realities of this.

Go for it hard man, Yea!

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Flypp wrote:
 ADDITION TO THE NIGHT:

THE FATTY!!!

I keep dancing, and say s.th. (really no clue what) to a girl, when I notice she's super fat. Alright, I don't care,  (DANG EVEN THERE THINGS ARE CHANGING...)

hAHAHAHA!!!!!! 

!!  i notice that myself , after a while my dick goes flat id shes tooo fat  :p:p

just trying this out - ( ..you a player.)

i knew a flypp out of belgium. I think hes dutch, though..
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 Last night I played soccer with mostly guys who I didn't know (most knew each other though). Tried to kick the shit and play alpha male for the lulz. It's harder than I thought, didn't help that I played like an amateur lol. Mr Greazle, who is a buddy getting into the game like me gave some advice: just act as if you're the best nonetheless, like you're the shit. I will see if I can work that. As a feedback, do you guys ever analyze social hierarchy with your guys' crew or just when around people? I feel like a wimp when I am not the shit in my social group and then have to go out and talk to girls right after.
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Went to Concordia, great place to start out the night. Boring bar, with fun people behind the bar. It's actually a playful challenge for me to keep their attention and keep them around my spot at the bar instead of having them wander off doing their own thing. For the second time they did not charge me any money. On thursday Mr. Greazle and I did a bar trick that makes whiskey and water switch places in two stacked shots, pretty nice stuff. Especially if you also get to drink it AND it's FREE.

- Started talking to a polish girl next to me and told her which beer to get from the tab. She taught me how to say "wicked" in polish. Salihotche or some shit i forgot. I pulled her in putting my hand around her waist but she pulled away and left.

- talked to some german guys who i moved to chat with for a while. it was boring and when I found the only cool person, a chubby turkish girl, the group of 10 people started to leave.

- took my bike and went to Locus Publicus bar. When I walked up to the entrance a girl came out. I stopped her immediately walking straight up to her. "Hey, where you going?" grabbing her arm. She did answer, in a tonality of excuse while she accidentally knocked some shit out of her own purse. Helped her pick up some lipstick and gave it back to her. I had the feeling that she was getting anxious to get going to i turned away and got inside. On second thought, I should've just stood there and amuse myself some more about her. But later more about the self amusement part. 
Inside, I see friends of mine, sit down with them and try to convince them to do the whiskey trick, but am not successful as they finally get up and leave. So do I.

- I move on towards the downtown area. On the way (on my bike) I start talking some shit to girls. "HEY" *girl turns to me positively* and I say "WHERE YOU GOIN" (in a rapport breaking voice). girls run away. lol



From here on it's just tons of blow outs that started to kind of amuze me. I didn't go into any of the clubs there, because they all had lines, and I wasn't down for that, and it gave me a good excuse to leave again. 



SOME FUN SHIT:
- On the street I was asked twice if I have coke to sell to them. Also I was asked specifically friendly twice if I wanted to buy some.
- Wasn't let in one club by a bouncer, for the first time in my life I believe. some bullshit about how it's full. Cool thing was, i pretty calmly looked him straight in the eyes and that big black dude first repeated himself and when I kept looking immediately looked down around his feet. Thought it was funny. I regret a little, that I didn't wait two minutes, while he lets other people pass and make him awkwardly observe his shoes to the point they start to sparkle.



STUFF I LEARNED:
- There is something about my appearance that makes me look like a drug dealer/user at night LOL.
- Stadhuisplein is amazing for street beasting.
- A night full of street blowout doesn't make you hate life a all. It rather makes you more real in a good and empowering way. Stripping away some limits and some bullshit in your head. Get comfortable with being yourself man.
- Street beasting is fascinating. It was fucking cold, but I see a great future in Rotterdam street game.

And this one is big: Start to SELF AMUSE. I can't start a party around me, when I don't know what I enjoy. I will learn to enjoy stuff I hear, say, see, do, feel. ESPECIALLY FOR MYSELF, don't even care about others. That's my priority goal for the next 3 weeks. Go and without having my ego internally make me giggle about shit that it thinks I should find enjoyable, or fun, now I won't confuse that with things I GENUINELY THINK are fun.
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Flypp

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 DANG MOTHERFUCKERS!!! I am starting to feel what being yourself means. I am feeling substance in myself. Weirds me out. srsly. If you are new and pussying out about going solo gaming and you wonder about all the things that can go wrong? great. I have a great advice for you.


JUST FUCKING DO IT


Alright, that'd be that tattoo going over my ass. If a year from now I still have the same signature, I will put this as a tattoo over my arse cheeks.
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Flypp

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 Tonight I didn't go out. I thought about my past a little and it shocked me how I am such a pussy. In many areas I have litterally been a pimpin hero already. For example, when I was 17 I went to some night club just one night, but I do remember talking and dancing to any girl I felt like and grinding them, in some shady place I had never been before and where there were plenty of huge black dudes. WTF? I didn't even think about approach anxiety. I must say I was in a much different lifestyle anyways, very proactive with no time or interest to think too much, huge self-esteem. Yeah I lived in the states when I was 16-17.
I don't even recall much fear. I believe, I had a tendency to lean into fear. It is something i was made attentive to by David Deida's "Way of the superior man". When we are kids we realize that this is quite a fun thing to do. Especially, when challenged by others, like boys challenging each other to jump over a fence. When we forget to cultivate this, and by an event or by gradually sliding into giving up or running away from our fears, we take a reverse path. I think this has made me quite a wus. I have been avoiding my fears. I would go further to say that I have cultivated a habit of identifying a concern, and jagging it up into fear, which I could not handle anymore and eventually avoided all that had to do with the initial concern. DAMNNNN! Lean into your fears for gods sake. It feel fricking amazing. How do I know? Now lets get to the reason why I wrote all this up.

As I was figuring it out (on a sunday night 1am), my blunt mind told me, "Ha yeah, you'd be shitscared to go out now in your pajamas and walk around for half an hour screaming AS LOUD AS YOU CAN, till the cops pick you up". Yup. I was. Walked around my appartment a bit nervous, realizing that I had just given myself a test of courage. I was also aware, that if I didn't start now, I probably never would start to lean into my fears. I contemplated a little if there was something more useful that would scare me just as much. There was nothing that I was tickled by as much as this so I had no choice.

I walked outside in my pajama's. I brought along the cup and tea that I had made. And I was oddly calm. Much calmer than going half the day before I went out solo street beasting (kinda) yesterday. Maybe things are already starting to work. I am starting to understand that as I make a decision, there is no need to worry anymore and no need to change it, it is taken. Sweet. As soon as I get out I start yelling from the deepest corner of my lungs. As I write this I am wondering if I could have yelled any louder. Probably not much, I used good tonality. I walked around the block, yelling AYAYAYAYAYAYAY OUOUOUOU WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YEAAAAHHHHHHHH, there was one guy on a bike I yelled gibberish at. OOOOHOOOOOOOOUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAHHHH. AAALLLIIIIIIIIIVVVVEEEEEEE

nothing really happened except for a cool echo. My area is very quiet at night. Now I feel great. Writing it down makes me a little afraid that it takes away from it, cuz it may feel like bragging about my newfound love for fear, but hey I just middle finger it and lean into that fear as well ;)


Hope you guys can carry something away from this.
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Flypp

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Tuesday:
Went to Club Vie. First set, 2 cute girls sitting on the steps when the club was still slow. I don't remember what I opened with. I did tons of strong kino from the start. At one point I just got up and pulled on of the girls up despite her resistance. She loved it, but I had not noticed that she and her sister were just about to smoke a cigarette and she said, "but first we want to smoke". Busted my frame. Instead I should've just picked her up and carried her away a little and don't dance but just go for makeout. Way out of my reality of reference experience, but seems straight forward to me.

Got some interactions with "hey, who are you!", and breaking tonality. It is just the easiest thing. The problem is, most of the time I don't get what they say, and when I ask "what!", the interaction deteriorates somewhat. Blasting some more statements may be a good way to help that. Anyhow, my voice is not strong enough yet. It is too forced and I am not self amuzed saying stuff, so it comes off not as dominant, but rather harsh. This way I burnt half the club. Cool thing is, if one girl of the set shows major resistance, sometimes another girl will just go and talk up to you. Initially I'd jump right at it, but I learned to relax a little and just go after what I want.

After like 15 interactions I wasn't at all scared anymore to approach, just rather kind of inconvenient, but that goes back that I am not really that self amused.

After all, had 2 kiss closes. One big chinese girl where it was simple to just hold my whatever straight face frame I had, kinda funny. The other girl is Korean, I had made out with her like two weeks back. Don't really feel like setting up day 2's tho, even though we decided to game it out on airhockey. Just couldn't find a decent common interest soon enough, and have no experience for day two. Making food would've been my alernative. Nothing fun coming up right now, except that she would come out running with me, which is cool as I was going to do that anyways. What are fun day 2's? Do you guys usually do them 1on1?

Had one beer at a pool tournament earlier that night, and remained my only drink for all night. Refreshing, will go sober more often. The pool tournament was great to get social momentum going.

Things noticed:
- I need to work on body composure -> breathing -> voice   I will check out some Roger Love vocal training stuff
- I need to feel my inner core more/ be in the moment/ enjoy the process -> more real self -> more self amuzed and more congruent -> less jumping at girls add bullshit -> stronger natural frame

Things I have improved:
- Approach many girls
- Go in for the kiss (and do it several times) each time will go somewhat better than the last.
              I have no idea how to spike attraction and whatever, but hitting the right moment will get her quite into it
- When kiss, squeezing the ass can be a fun thing to do. Molesting titties and backing off just a little and come back in later works about the same as the kiss. Just go for it a couple times.
- Being calm. Not yet relaxed and in the moment, but not hyped up. Instead calm. This is a huge improvement . Drinking no alcohol helps.
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