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ultimately it's BUYER vs. SELLER frame. comments like "we can just cuddle! Really! I'm a good boy!" reek of seller frame to me. Bitch, I ain't Johnny Q Public, I'm JEFF FUCKING ALLEN, and either you get with the program, or I become sickened by your pathetic attempt to barter pussy with some weird emotional game and dismiss you. FUCKOFF
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Given that you have your game down one key aspect for me is shortening or removing the transition to sex.
Thats why i always suggest the date to be "a movie at my place" or something that puts us both very close to sex. If you have a date in a bar, café, cinema etc there comes a distinct time where she has to decide if she wants the sex or not which can become far to logical in her head.
The "I don't fuck on the first date circuit" gets stronger if what you are on is a traditional date with a distinct end where she knows whats next.
For me its like this:
1. Try and get the date at your or her place
2. If she doesn't want that then you know that she is not sure yet if she wants to fuck you or not. You go on the date and try there
3. If by asking number 1 she flakes completely, then it saved you time anyway.
So there is no reason not to try to get the date at your or her place.
Thats why i always suggest the date to be "a movie at my place" or something that puts us both very close to sex. If you have a date in a bar, café, cinema etc there comes a distinct time where she has to decide if she wants the sex or not which can become far to logical in her head.
The "I don't fuck on the first date circuit" gets stronger if what you are on is a traditional date with a distinct end where she knows whats next.
For me its like this:
1. Try and get the date at your or her place
2. If she doesn't want that then you know that she is not sure yet if she wants to fuck you or not. You go on the date and try there
3. If by asking number 1 she flakes completely, then it saved you time anyway.
So there is no reason not to try to get the date at your or her place.
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bro, I don't fuck ALL of them on the first date... I get about 80-85%. If they don't fuck first date, 9 times out of ten I don't ever see them again, because they are like FUCK THIS CHODE. But bottom line is I dont give a fuck. You only get one chance with me, and I dont play fuckin power games with pussy. BITCH PLEASE LOL DO YOU KNOW WHO THE FUCK I AM. They get one chance. When that's your mentality you go hard or go home and cry... Burn the boats man, whatever it takes
I was just going to comment on that.
Jeffy mate, I saw where you commented on this in one of your more recent videos.
For some time now, I have did the samethings with numbers and stunners I met (before entering a relationship).
I want to have an adventure and if the girl is not coming or is full of excuses, it is time away from 1) making money 2) having sex with stunners.
Deleting contacts is some of the best actions to women who do not reciprocate to my advances.
On the contrary, some contact me later, and request to hangout.
It feels good but, once deleted, I do not count on them since, they were removed from my contacts.
It also goes to show that you wont take their shit and more importantly, that there is no room for complacency.
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Tim:`How can I make this fun?
brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later.
Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!
Alex: "The famous ambiguity!" + "This is what happens when your naturally attractive; cheekyinnit#!
Ambiguity: I don't chase, I replace.
This. From a more practical perspective, here's my gameplan and I've made it a FOCUS to execute on this every day2 I've had this month.
1) Have em meet at the corner of my street. I "help them find parking" and "forget my wallet".
2) Go to my apartment to grab my wallet. Quick tour. Point to shit. Yeah I like cooking, I grew up in my mothers kitchen.
3) Walk to the bar. Drink one. Bullshit. If I haven't kissed her yet (e.g. I met her during the day instead of at night) I tell her "I have to kiss you" and do so.
4) Seed the shit out of everything cool I talk about. Hahah yeah I'll have to show you. Hahah yeah it was tight the photos were amazing you'll flip shit. Hahah yeah I batman condoms...... er....
5) Depending on how its going, Bar 2. I find the walk itself to REALLY HELP, excuse to have her on my arm and shit/
6) Sko, babies. Sko hookah. Sko I'm hungry. Sko. "Where are we going??" "That way". "Why????" "Almonds".
7) Light up my hookah, turn on my projector, start babies, pour us a glass of red wine.
8) Make out.
9) Take my shirt off.
10) Take my dick out.
11) Fuck each other.
12) Lie in bed and ask her about where she wants to travel to and what adventures she wants to have.
13) Kick her out.
14) Brag about it on the internet.
I think that I come off as boyfriend material, but like.. really really in demand boyfriend material. Super quality guy who they will lose quickly if they dont comply. So often times I think these girls fuck because they are literally afraid of losing me. And OBVIOUSLY because we turn each other on.
Other shit that seems to help, ime:
Call em twice or more before the date, be cool as fuck, make em feel good. Creates a lot more comfort, they learn how to flirt with you before the date so the date is even more flirty.
Being suuuuuuuper chill about the sex. Slowing the FUCK down. Deescalating YOURSELF regardless of her input. E.g. I will take my cock out and she'll play with it and then I'll put it back away and say "shit hahah fuck you turn me on waaaaay too much," sit back, smile, take a pull off my hookah, put my arm around her, bring her in. Wait, smell her neck, kiss her ear, "fuuuuuuuck," grab her hand and put it back on my cock, start touching her pussy etc.
My continually proven line for any sort of hesitation from her is "Hey, it's totally cool". Then I pause, pull her in to cuddle, make her feel comforted / cared for, and escalate agian.
These are things I've found that INCREASE MY ODDS just like in a nighttime setting where using her name and her friends names helps. I'm not pro at this shit but these small steps really do help. I can tell you without doing this shit it seems a lot more random.
Also, just order soda water man. Fuck it
1) Have em meet at the corner of my street. I "help them find parking" and "forget my wallet".
2) Go to my apartment to grab my wallet. Quick tour. Point to shit. Yeah I like cooking, I grew up in my mothers kitchen.
3) Walk to the bar. Drink one. Bullshit. If I haven't kissed her yet (e.g. I met her during the day instead of at night) I tell her "I have to kiss you" and do so.
4) Seed the shit out of everything cool I talk about. Hahah yeah I'll have to show you. Hahah yeah it was tight the photos were amazing you'll flip shit. Hahah yeah I batman condoms...... er....
5) Depending on how its going, Bar 2. I find the walk itself to REALLY HELP, excuse to have her on my arm and shit/
6) Sko, babies. Sko hookah. Sko I'm hungry. Sko. "Where are we going??" "That way". "Why????" "Almonds".
7) Light up my hookah, turn on my projector, start babies, pour us a glass of red wine.
8) Make out.
9) Take my shirt off.
10) Take my dick out.
11) Fuck each other.
12) Lie in bed and ask her about where she wants to travel to and what adventures she wants to have.
13) Kick her out.
14) Brag about it on the internet.
I think that I come off as boyfriend material, but like.. really really in demand boyfriend material. Super quality guy who they will lose quickly if they dont comply. So often times I think these girls fuck because they are literally afraid of losing me. And OBVIOUSLY because we turn each other on.
Other shit that seems to help, ime:
Call em twice or more before the date, be cool as fuck, make em feel good. Creates a lot more comfort, they learn how to flirt with you before the date so the date is even more flirty.
Being suuuuuuuper chill about the sex. Slowing the FUCK down. Deescalating YOURSELF regardless of her input. E.g. I will take my cock out and she'll play with it and then I'll put it back away and say "shit hahah fuck you turn me on waaaaay too much," sit back, smile, take a pull off my hookah, put my arm around her, bring her in. Wait, smell her neck, kiss her ear, "fuuuuuuuck," grab her hand and put it back on my cock, start touching her pussy etc.
My continually proven line for any sort of hesitation from her is "Hey, it's totally cool". Then I pause, pull her in to cuddle, make her feel comforted / cared for, and escalate agian.
These are things I've found that INCREASE MY ODDS just like in a nighttime setting where using her name and her friends names helps. I'm not pro at this shit but these small steps really do help. I can tell you without doing this shit it seems a lot more random.
Also, just order soda water man. Fuck it
also focus on the STEPS, all this talk about "i feel this way" and "i FEEL that way" who gives a shit how you fucking FEEL. Focus on EXECUTION. Makeout by her car? Why the fuck isn't she back at your HOUSE? I get them to the house almost 100% of the time. Have her drop you off then get her inside, baby steps, this shit happens so smooth they dont even realize where the fuck they are. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH MILLION DOLLAR MOUTHPIECE is blasting while I just orchestrate the whole damn thing STEP BY STEP. One foot in front of the other, execute.
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OK good. Steps.
Tonight:
- just texted her. turns out she's taking public transit to our meetup spot.
- I'm driving there
- get one drink there
- tell her to down that shit
- LETS GO
- walk to liquor store 2 blocks away, buy thing of peppermint schnapps (this was my description of our FUTURE CLASSY DATE when we met)
- make her hold it as we walk around the Mission on our classy date
- occassionally yank it out of her hands, take a sip, give it back to her. keep walking.
- walk another block or 2 to car
- LETS GO
- drive to el rio, mainly for my amusement "I READ ABOUT THIS IN A BOOK ONE TIME" (never seen it yet)
- just drink teh schnapps in there
- decide 'this music isnt sexy enough, next place'
- back to car
- drive to my place
Actually fuck it...skip the drink at first place. We'll just meet up there and gtfo.
I guess I'll stick with making her talk earlier on, then afterward lead verbally so i'm leading all the way.
I don't know if this "seeding" shit is necessary. Will think about what I feel like pretending I'm going to pretend to pretend to show her. My silverware collection and also art collection (painting of my cock aka actually just a rooster, and a black and white photograph given to my friend as a gift from his dead aunt, with the birthday letter still attached to the backside). And also a fancy red wine renowned for its particular ability to stain teeth, recommended by 4 out of 5 dentists. Yeah, I can just do this, obvious nonsense that she MUST see.
Tonight:
- just texted her. turns out she's taking public transit to our meetup spot.
- I'm driving there
- get one drink there
- tell her to down that shit
- LETS GO
- walk to liquor store 2 blocks away, buy thing of peppermint schnapps (this was my description of our FUTURE CLASSY DATE when we met)
- make her hold it as we walk around the Mission on our classy date
- occassionally yank it out of her hands, take a sip, give it back to her. keep walking.
- walk another block or 2 to car
- LETS GO
- drive to el rio, mainly for my amusement "I READ ABOUT THIS IN A BOOK ONE TIME" (never seen it yet)
- just drink teh schnapps in there
- decide 'this music isnt sexy enough, next place'
- back to car
- drive to my place
Actually fuck it...skip the drink at first place. We'll just meet up there and gtfo.
I guess I'll stick with making her talk earlier on, then afterward lead verbally so i'm leading all the way.
I don't know if this "seeding" shit is necessary. Will think about what I feel like pretending I'm going to pretend to pretend to show her. My silverware collection and also art collection (painting of my cock aka actually just a rooster, and a black and white photograph given to my friend as a gift from his dead aunt, with the birthday letter still attached to the backside). And also a fancy red wine renowned for its particular ability to stain teeth, recommended by 4 out of 5 dentists. Yeah, I can just do this, obvious nonsense that she MUST see.
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►Part I -- What Tyler means by "Drop the Self-Image Paradigm"
►Part II -- [What Do You Want to Hear About On a Coming Sunday?]
lets just cuddle --> trying to be a "baby step" towards the bedroom. its not like im stomping my feet while saying it lol.
also after these dates where you don't bang are you following up later on, or just going for the next girl until/unless the girl is super persistent on you? thinking i prob just need to do the FIRST DATE as much as i can until i get it down more solid. and probably just at the end of this "first date" that doesn't close telling them "next quote-unquote date you're bringing over red wine and a bad movie see you then."
also after these dates where you don't bang are you following up later on, or just going for the next girl until/unless the girl is super persistent on you? thinking i prob just need to do the FIRST DATE as much as i can until i get it down more solid. and probably just at the end of this "first date" that doesn't close telling them "next quote-unquote date you're bringing over red wine and a bad movie see you then."
ultimately it's BUYER vs. SELLER frame. comments like "we can just cuddle! Really! I'm a good boy!" reek of seller frame to me. Bitch, I ain't Johnny Q Public, I'm JEFF FUCKING ALLEN, and either you get with the program, or I become sickened by your pathetic attempt to barter pussy with some weird emotional game and dismiss you. FUCKOFF
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RSD Misinterpreted: A Series of Posts on Popular RSD Ideas and How I Used to Misunderstand Them
Coming to you every Sunday...
►Part I -- What Tyler means by "Drop the Self-Image Paradigm"
►Part II -- [What Do You Want to Hear About On a Coming Sunday?]
Coming to you every Sunday...
►Part I -- What Tyler means by "Drop the Self-Image Paradigm"
►Part II -- [What Do You Want to Hear About On a Coming Sunday?]
Some of these responses just reek of manboy. Actually most of them do
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Look at manwhore. The guy is so ugly that I think he's face was on fire and they put out the fire using a baseball bet.
But he has the `energy`.
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Get the Manwhore Text Displayer app from Google Play. And learn Text Game I know what you are.
Say it.
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Are you afraid?
No.
You shouldn’t of said that.
I'm the world's best predator, aren't I? Everything about me invites you in - my voice, my face, even my smell. As if I need any of that! As if you could outrun me. As if you could fight me off.
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RSD Misinterpreted: A Series of Posts on Popular RSD Ideas and How I Used to Misunderstand Them
Coming to you every Sunday...
►Part I -- What Tyler means by "Drop the Self-Image Paradigm"
►Part II -- [What Do You Want to Hear About On a Coming Sunday?]
Coming to you every Sunday...
►Part I -- What Tyler means by "Drop the Self-Image Paradigm"
►Part II -- [What Do You Want to Hear About On a Coming Sunday?]
Why would you be so concerned about fucking her on the first date any way? A true Jedi must first learn patience, that and one nights stands and "numbers" are way overrated anyway.. Just be comfortable, chill out and enjoy yourself, let her game you..
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I even had girls, who rebuked me on the FIRST DATE, then STALLED in setting up the second date, text me weeks later like "hey, are we still talking? shall i come over? wanna smoke?"
and i'm like, oh her, fuck, i forgot to delete her number - and i DELETE.
Which sounds dickish and like i purposefully turned down a guaranteed lay just cos i have no patience for this bullshit, but i geniunely lose attraction as SOON AS they start playing games, like all my momentum is gone, i have other shit going on, it's not on my mind enough to even bother.
Consequently, it is THIS EXACT ATTITUDE, liek we're doing this now or you can fuck off, honestly, sincerely, it is not somethign i will compromise on, that gets a higher proportion of lays on a first date.
Even though, i haven't been on a "date" since October and i refuse to go on anymore, cos that shit was holding my game back, so i would problably suck ass if i was goin on dates now.