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Advanced Push/Pull
I'm going to second this. More and more if I think a conversation is boring or doesn't have enough sexual energy, I just cut her off mid-sentence and change the subject. Initially, I worried this was too heavy handed and would self-deprecate, compliment, or ask about her interests after. I can honestly say I have never had a bad reaction. They eat this shit up. No matter how smart, hot, bitchy - women love to be lead.
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Good luck out there.
I love the game.
Good luck out there.
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Sounds awesome, thanks, will try! I could probably use some more dominance in my game.
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Trent3Reznor
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Join Date: 09/19/2011 | Posts: 399
It should be clear to you by now that natural game conquers routine based approaches by far. Cultivating a strong reality creates a firm foundation that you can fully immerse yourself within which allow things to naturally flow. The only problem is that when guys focus entirely on developing their belief system they neglect extremely powerful mechanics that would sky rocket their results. They shift all their attention on inner-game which is great because it fortifies their core however throwing in a sword to compliment your shield isn't a bad idea. As a matter of fact it's necessary if you want to take things to the next level, and this is where I want to lead you today in this article. I'm about to introduce you to THE MOST POWERFUL outer game tool that I've stumbled upon in this game. It's simplified my sub-communication, verbal, and physical game into one single frame but most importantly it's exploded my results. Breaking Rapport, Frame Control, Deliberate Illogicality, Qualification, Rapid Escalation, and Leading can all now be simplified to one outer game method. This is what I'm going to talk about today.
Push/Pull Dynamics
One of the most popular techniques in the seduction community is push/pull. The reason is apparent, it hits women like a tidal wave because it contrasts negative and positive emotions which gets her reacting to you immediately. If you're unfamiliar with the technique it’s essentially a compliment followed immediately by a tease, this is the old way of doing things. Even though it may be old, it’s still just as potent because the formula is guaranteed to get her reacting to you. You break rapport which creates a vacuum for her to qualify herself, and then you validate her by showing your approval. It keeps her constantly reacting to you, because the push creates tension while the pull inspires a sense of comfort. This is why push/pull works, because you inspire a full range of emotions in the girl and when girls get emotional they get horny. The problem with "Old Geezer Push/Pull" is that it’s forced and mechanical instead of smooth and natural. The fact that you have to deliberately compliment a girl and then tease her immediately afterwards makes it robotic and lame. Now what we want to do is strip the technique of its rigid structure and emphasize more on the core principle of inspiring a full range of emotions in the girl. When the PUA runs out of push/pull lines he loses the ability to pump the chicks buying temperature but a natural who push/pulls based on principle can keep the girl aroused for eternity. I'm going to break down how a natural pushes in one section and how he pulls in the next.
Advanced "Push"
Deliberately teasing a girl is a great way to emotionally spike her, however I've found there are simpler ways to "push" that are just as effective. Obnoxiously cutting threads and verbally dominating a girl is one of my favorite ways to "push" and create tension in the interaction. I call this "Bully Game". It's actually a lot simpler than it sounds, but if you struggle to stay outside your head and plow the first five minutes of a conversation then DO NOT try this. It's pretty much taking "The Million Dollar Mouthpiece" and blasting it obnoxiously and completely irreverent to social feedback. Now this sounds bad, but i do this intentionally for a reason. Whenever you cut somebody off while they're talking and completely change the topic, they will immediately react to you. They will either instantly start talking about your conversational thread or resist by continuing to talk about their previous topic and battle your frame. By continuing to cut the thread instead of reverting back to their previous conversational topic, they will eventually submit their frame and get sucked into your reality.
Ex:
Chick: I like painting my nails bla bla bl-
Dude: I run over deers and make jerkey. Nom Nom Nom.
Chick: uh Yeah, I got these done the other day bla bla bl-
Dude: My tires are bloody he he he
Chick: y-
Dude: I'm going on a deer and beer diet. Hey that rhymed!
Dude: I'm a gangster rapper that eats deer jerkey. Yeea he He he
Chick: ha ha you're so funny!
In this instance you're imposing your reality relentlessly on the conversation, and eventually the girl reacts to your frame by leaving her conversational topic and investing towards your thread. The "Push" comes from you verbally overpowering the interaction and establishing dominance by cutting her off whenever you choose to amuse yourself.
Advanced "Pull"
Now the above example involves an extreme amount of push, and in that situation there was no need for to pull because she reacted with positivity. When you use "Bully Game" and verbally dominate a chick she will usually feel aroused however there are several times where the girl reacts negatively and we need to calibrate by "pulling". This is good because it creates the push/pull dynamic where we contrast positive and negative emotions to inspire a full range of feelings in the girl. Deliberately complimenting a girl is a great way to validate her, however there are simpler ways to "pull" that are just as effective. My favorite way of doing this is "Self Deprecation". It's a great way to let the girl know that you're still attuned to her emotions without giving your power away by apoligizing like a little bitch. It's a playful way of showing empathy towards the girl. If I piss a girl off by cutting her off too much and imposing my frame too agressively, then I will "self deprecate" myself until she pisses from laughter and hops back into my frame.
Chick: I like painting my nails bla bla bl-
Dude: I run over deers and make jerkey. Nom Nom Nom.
Chick: uh Yeah, I got these done the other day bla bla bl-
Dude: My tires are bloody he he he
Chick: (Confused) WtF are you talking about?
Dude: (Notices Reaction, Calibrates Pull) Sorry, I just graduated from kindergarten and I ride the short bus. I like sniffing superglue.
Chick: ha Ha ha you're crazy!
In this instance you crossed the line by being too aggressive with the thread-cutting and it inspired a negative reaction in the girl. If we continued to push from here with the same attitude, we would get blown out the set by pissing her off. The exact moment that we notice her responding negatively, we plow with good emotions like a monsoon and succesfully generate a full range of emotions in the girl. It's similar to the two steps forward, one step back concept where you cross the line and pull back in a smooth rhythm. You deliberately cross the line to inspire a negative reaction and then inspire positive emotions by expressing empathy in an unapologetic and self amused manner.