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ridiculously awesome! now I feel like a chump for not going out on a fucking monday night....
excuse the ignorance but what is MD?
excuse the ignorance but what is MD?
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awesome shit dude! love the soloness.. something im gonna strive for.
sexy.
i read it as mdma.
sexy.
i read it as mdma.
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Brad Alumni - Stockholm - 2012
That's retardedly awesome dude. I love random fucking hookups.
I think it's funny that dudes on here are going to be like DUDE HE JUST GOT LUCKY in their heads.
FUCK THAT GUY. He doesn't understand the ultimate truth about pickup:
YOU BECOME A CHAMP FIRST aka GO OUT ALL TEH FUCKING TIME
YOU SEE AN OPPORTUNITY
YOU TAKE OPPORTUNITY
YOU FUCK HOTTIE
If you don't become a fucking MONSTER first then you either wont see the opportunity, or you'll be too much of a fucking pussy not to go for it (and try fucking it up).
Great work g, inspiring
I think it's funny that dudes on here are going to be like DUDE HE JUST GOT LUCKY in their heads.
FUCK THAT GUY. He doesn't understand the ultimate truth about pickup:
YOU BECOME A CHAMP FIRST aka GO OUT ALL TEH FUCKING TIME
YOU SEE AN OPPORTUNITY
YOU TAKE OPPORTUNITY
YOU FUCK HOTTIE
If you don't become a fucking MONSTER first then you either wont see the opportunity, or you'll be too much of a fucking pussy not to go for it (and try fucking it up).
Great work g, inspiring
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Damn dude you are just killin it. Ever since you did the 30 day sober challenge shits been crazy for you.
I have a question as to pulls for sex.
So let's say I'm with a girl at the end of the night and were clearly into each other.
But then she gives a little bit resistance as to going home with me or whatever.
Do I just do like decisive man lets go let's go let's go and just brute force pull her.
Or do I just kind of weasel around her resistance and baby step it?
Or I guess do you just calibrate on a case by case basis and try a bunch of different things?
There was a couple sets for me within the past week or 2 we were making out and hanging out at the end of the night and I think it totally could have went down if I executed right, but I kinda fumbled. Expected/hoped for the pull to just be a smooth win-win process. But it didn't go so smoothly and girl ends up finding her friends again at the end of the night and not going home with me.
Hope this makes some sense/you have some experience/can give some advice
Thanks bro
I have a question as to pulls for sex.
So let's say I'm with a girl at the end of the night and were clearly into each other.
But then she gives a little bit resistance as to going home with me or whatever.
Do I just do like decisive man lets go let's go let's go and just brute force pull her.
Or do I just kind of weasel around her resistance and baby step it?
Or I guess do you just calibrate on a case by case basis and try a bunch of different things?
There was a couple sets for me within the past week or 2 we were making out and hanging out at the end of the night and I think it totally could have went down if I executed right, but I kinda fumbled. Expected/hoped for the pull to just be a smooth win-win process. But it didn't go so smoothly and girl ends up finding her friends again at the end of the night and not going home with me.
Hope this makes some sense/you have some experience/can give some advice
Thanks bro
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My adventures in Dallas - 2013
My adventures in Austin - 2012
Tyler/Julien, Honolulu Bootcamp July 2011
Tyler hotseat2 x5 (2011-2012)
Alex hotseat x2 (2013)
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My adventures in Dallas - 2013
My adventures in Austin - 2012
Tyler/Julien, Honolulu Bootcamp July 2011
Tyler hotseat2 x5 (2011-2012)
Alex hotseat x2 (2013)
girlslovepenis.tumblr.com
@roadrally Yeah man quiting the booze and being able to hit it hard, as well as learning how to build momentum and hit state without alcohol have changed my life. It ended a 3 year plateau of just getting lots of drunken makeouts and ocassionally getting lucky enough to have sex with a girl. There was no growth. No confidence. Now I'm the right track and its great because it can only get better from here (and its pretty damn cool as it is right now).
I know what you're talking about with that end of the night stuff. It's kinda been a sticking point for me too.
I think it comes down to what kind of vibe the interation has. Sometimes it just calls for riding it out and letting it happen. Sometimes you'd have to step up and make it happen. I'm definitely more comfortable with when it just slowly pans out, rather than the forced almost non-compliance pulls. But that's kind of just because that's how most of my pulls have gone down and I just haven't pulled off a "SKO bitch SKO" kinda pull when I have tried it.
My mate who's also into RSD seems to push for the pull pretty hard and it works for him. It's pretty cool how he pulls some crazy stuff off. I've been working on pushing myself with this but if you're not comfortable doing it I think you can end up losing the girl.
But at the same time "letting it just happen" doesn't mean just sitting back and letting the girl make the decisions. You have to lead and stuff. Just do it chilled and relaxed - you don't need to throw her over your shoulder and carry her off into the night.
And the most important thing is to lose the outcome dependence at that critical point right at the end there. If you start thinking "what should I do now to get her home" / "will she be down to come back with me" or any thoughts it probably won't happen. You should be totally unfazed about whether you get her or not. I can actually tell if it's going to happen or not based on this one thing. If I'm feeling at all needy about whether she comes back with me it won't happen whereas if i don't really mind, there's a good chance it will. I think this one thing is more important than whether its compliant or non compliant. Sure you have to be able to work the logistics, but this is what it's really all about IMO.
So in your case, did you maybe start to feel a bit of pressure to get her and that's why you fumbled it?
Anyway these all just some of my thoughts, not sure if others would agree. Hope it helps a bit.
Dude, its kind of fucking crazy you said that - I would say its point on with my experience.I know what you're talking about with that end of the night stuff. It's kinda been a sticking point for me too.
I think it comes down to what kind of vibe the interation has. Sometimes it just calls for riding it out and letting it happen. Sometimes you'd have to step up and make it happen. I'm definitely more comfortable with when it just slowly pans out, rather than the forced almost non-compliance pulls. But that's kind of just because that's how most of my pulls have gone down and I just haven't pulled off a "SKO bitch SKO" kinda pull when I have tried it.
My mate who's also into RSD seems to push for the pull pretty hard and it works for him. It's pretty cool how he pulls some crazy stuff off. I've been working on pushing myself with this but if you're not comfortable doing it I think you can end up losing the girl.
But at the same time "letting it just happen" doesn't mean just sitting back and letting the girl make the decisions. You have to lead and stuff. Just do it chilled and relaxed - you don't need to throw her over your shoulder and carry her off into the night.
And the most important thing is to lose the outcome dependence at that critical point right at the end there. If you start thinking "what should I do now to get her home" / "will she be down to come back with me" or any thoughts it probably won't happen. You should be totally unfazed about whether you get her or not. I can actually tell if it's going to happen or not based on this one thing. If I'm feeling at all needy about whether she comes back with me it won't happen whereas if i don't really mind, there's a good chance it will. I think this one thing is more important than whether its compliant or non compliant. Sure you have to be able to work the logistics, but this is what it's really all about IMO.
So in your case, did you maybe start to feel a bit of pressure to get her and that's why you fumbled it?
Anyway these all just some of my thoughts, not sure if others would agree. Hope it helps a bit.
So there was one girl I pulled succesfully and SNLed a couple weeks ago. This one was pretty chill just like let it happen. There was a couple times in the night where I was down to pull her and bang (I guess thats always lets be honest) but it was still kind of early and she wanted to chill more. So I was like whatever no big deal, wasnt really worried about banging her. Just enjoyed our vibe and hanging out. Towards the end of the night she was just like okay lets go, and she had made the decision.
The 2 more recent interactions that I didnt close sucessfully. What happened was I rolled in like normal, but then I found myself in an amazing position. IE end of the night, me and the girl alone. Thats like perfect setup right? So then my brain is into figure this shit out mode. How do I make the pull happen. Handle logistics, what about this, how can I make this happen. Exactly how you described. I put the pressure on myself because was like oh time to make this happen or whatever. And then yeah, it ends up not working out.
So, seems like the key is just to kind of enjoy the vibe and enjoy the girl and not worry so much about making it happen.
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I guess you are kind of more of the chill type of guy vs the push push push for close, which is like me so then letting it naturally happen is comfortable for both of us.
The way that I have had any success with girls, yeah the whole outcome dependance is in full effect. What I do is just vibe and enjoy the girl, and then at a certain point in time, there is something within the girl that flips and just makes her decide that she wants to make this happen. Then once the girl decides, she seduces and escalates on me and then its on. Of course I still need to play it solid escalate and whatever, but she has decided so it makes things easy. On the otherhand, when I want it too much and start to push hard for an outcome (day2 or pull or etc) It doesnt work out very well for me.
For me, it seems almost like I have just kind of been there with the girl, doing typical vibing escalation or whatever, and then at some point the girl makes the decision that its going down, then it happens, Does this match up with your experience?
Also it seems like theres 2 styles, because your wing buddy who is pushing hard..... That doesnt seem so much like outcome independance, but more of a dominance pull. Idk maybe thats just another style to learn?
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I just want to enjoy amazing girls. Crazy what sort of journey ive embarked on pursuing this quest.
My adventures in Dallas - 2013
My adventures in Austin - 2012
Tyler/Julien, Honolulu Bootcamp July 2011
Tyler hotseat2 x5 (2011-2012)
Alex hotseat x2 (2013)
girlslovepenis.tumblr.com
My adventures in Dallas - 2013
My adventures in Austin - 2012
Tyler/Julien, Honolulu Bootcamp July 2011
Tyler hotseat2 x5 (2011-2012)
Alex hotseat x2 (2013)
girlslovepenis.tumblr.com

LethalLex
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Join Date: 11/20/2010 | Posts: 944
On a monday.
2011 journal ~ www.rsdnation.com/node/171403/forum
2012 Journal ~ www.rsdnation.com/node/208885/forum
2013 Journal ~ www.rsdnation.com/node/208885