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#51
LethalLex

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@wtfeverness I felt exactly the same as you before this mini going out stint i've been on. I've been battling with the fact that I'm doing awesomely when I go out and yet all my awesome habits all falling by the way side. And the thing is I DON'T CARE and it DOES NOT AFFECT MY GAME. I literally just watched Tyler's video on short term vs long term mating strategy and it explains this phenomena super well. Before I was in long term mating strategy where I got all my confidence from the fact I am ripped, i hit gym every day, I drink my protein shakes. Now, however, I am in short term mating strategy where whether I do that or not makes no difference to my state watsoever. In fact NOT doing them allows me to maintain that WOOO mindset that much more.

While I'm feeling pretty dam awesome at the moment, i don't want to the other shit to fall apart in my life. I KNOW I value other things even if it FEELS like I don't. So yeah, I agree I should definitely get a balance and keep it up with gym and all that.

@Shadoxity Thanks man. Last year was the year I really started making stuff happen. This year I'm going way harder so it should be crazy.

With the makeouts thing its weird cause I really don't find it a huge deal. I used to get shitfaced basically for 3 years and just try and get loads of makeouts. Which is kinda retarded now that i think about it cause I just never grew. When I started going out sober recently, though, getting a makeout was a big deal at first. Now I've got quite a few in the last 2 weeks and it feels normal again. Weird how that happens. But man, if you stick to your 30 day challenge your going to be experiencing some crazy stuff!

@PUA of the Future Yeah kinda weird how that is. I actually approached her a couple times again when i was in state and she was less receptive if anything. I was like BUT I'M COOL NOW LOOK! lol.

I like your journal man, been following it and its been pretty helpful. Nicely written too. Any advice you have on my stuff would be awesome =)
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#52
LethalLex

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Friday

Feeling tired, have a scratchy throat and having some negative thoughts about this whole 'pickup lifestyle" during the day.

i'm invited to a friends house party but I delay cause i don't feel like doing anything. By the time I amp myself up its kinda late. Decide to just go out alone.

First approach is a birthday girl. I'm quite relaxed. She and her friends are drunk and kinda wander off after a bit.

Talk to a cute girl with a head dookie thing and her friend. I'm suprised how vibey i am on my second approach. I walk away feeling in state already.

Stand at the bar. I'm feeling good, not in my head. See hot blonde my friend made out with the other night and say hi. I keep her attention well. Meet her friends.

Next girl is a fantastic set. I pretty much just walk in and start talking about myself. I do it in a way that makes it as though she'd be retarded not to want to hear it. She wasn't hot though so after a while i bounce.

Something I keep doing is when I've just left a set and feel awesome, i walk past girls walking in the opposite directions and get mad eye contact but don't open. Then when i get past them i see there are no girls around and realise i should have approached them. Its like this I-don't-need-to-approach-them-right-now mindset. Which is actually untrue, cause thats the PERFECT MOMENT right there.

I need to start going in HARD when I'm a lil warmed up. 

I could have stayed out longer to be honest. At least I got out and kept the momentum up though.
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#53
LethalLex

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I found some good advice in Lateralus' thread which I think applies to me big time:

"Seduction is very seductive.
      A lot of people will take this shit way to serious and they will start to derive a sense of self and there sense of validation and self esteem from their ability to meet strangers in a club.

What this basically means is that your life has spiraled to a point where any random stranger in a club has complete control over about how you feel about yourself.
      It’s a pretty fucked up place to be.

You want to ultimately focus on becoming a cooler person.

Ask yourself if the person you are now is someone you would want to hangout with.

The happier you are the better you are going to do with girls.

Detach from all outcomes and cut loose.

I've noticed a lot of people going out lately (including myself) to pull instead of having fun with their friends.

Fuck the numbers or lays, all that matters is that you are having fun and getting out of your comfort zone."

The last 2 lines especially rang true for me.

At the moment I feel like a soldier in the trenches, doing what needs to be done. My one friend even commented that he thinks I'm focusing too much on getting girls. At first I brushed this off as chode talk, but I think he was actually trying to give me good advice. When I go out with my friends i just use them as a safety net... I can can bounce back to tthem when I'm out of set. This is actually pretty fucked up. I haven't focused on having fun with my friends who are cool guys and are worth my time.

What I feel is happening in the club is that I'm all approach approach approach so that I can get into state. i'm not approaching cause i want to, I'm not approaching cause the girl is hot, I'm not approaching cause i want to get laid. It's all an attempt to get away from where i am now and get to where I "should be". While I come across cool and thee girl likes me most of the time, there's not intent. Even if I'm the smoothest, coolest motherfucker on the planet, this si not going to get me laid. Again, this goes back to pumping up my sexuality. Definitely my sticking point right now.
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#54

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LethalLex wrote:


I've noticed a lot of people going out lately (including myself) to pull instead of having fun with their friends.

Fuck the numbers or lays, all that matters is that you are having fun and getting out of your comfort zone."


The last 2 lines especially rang true for me.

At the moment I feel like a soldier in the trenches, doing what needs to be done. My one friend even commented that he thinks I'm focusing too much on getting girls. At first I brushed this off as chode talk, but I think he was actually trying to give me good advice. When I go out with my friends i just use them as a safety net... I can can bounce back to tthem when I'm out of set. This is actually pretty fucked up. I haven't focused on having fun with my friends who are cool guys and are worth my time.

What I feel is happening in the club is that I'm all approach approach approach so that I can get into state. i'm not approaching cause i want to, I'm not approaching cause the girl is hot, I'm not approaching cause i want to get laid. It's all an attempt to get away from where i am now and get to where I "should be". While I come across cool and thee girl likes me most of the time, there's not intent. Even if I'm the smoothest, coolest motherfucker on the planet, this si not going to get me laid. Again, this goes back to pumping up my sexuality. Definitely my sticking point right now.
On the other hand, This is the whole point of the 30 day challenge. The whole reason why you got into pickup got into rsd is because you want to get laid more. So If that is important to you, ( it is since youre commited to a 30DC) then stick with it. Hardcore. And fuck what your friend says, for now at least. 

Buying into his bullshit is 100% related to you being afraid of getting laid. Sure inorder to become the guy who has massive success. You need to transform as a person. That means the old you dies. You have to kill that fucker off by taking action and challenging yourself. You are pushing yourself into new territory that youve never been in before. Its always easy to stay safe in your comfort zone rather then venture out into the unknown.

I mean I think this is just your brain playing tricks on you. And your social circle polluting your mind to keep homeostatis in the system. Sure your friend thinks its too extreme, but thats the whole point of what you chose. 99% of people out there are just not capable of completing a 30 day challenge. So my opinion fuck his opinion for now.

After the 30 days are up, you can chill with your friends, and have more fun or whatever. If you want. Or you can just be sexing girls.. And thats pretty fucking fun too, pun intended.
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#55
LethalLex

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@roadrally Cool thans for giving me the other side of the argument. That was my original position and maybe you're right, I could be just using this as a justification for not stepping up. At the same time I think I could focus a bit more on the fun element - screwing around with my mates and just having fun. I dunno, I need to take a step back at some point and assess what the fuck is going on right now. This whole experiece is pretty fucking crazy to say the least. But yeah, thanks for pointing that out. Will make sure I don't use it as an excuse not to take action.
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#56
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Saturday.

My first SNL ever. Think my 14th girl ever (need to count again).

Get to the club with my friends who are already drunk. I've had 2 beers. I decided I'd just let myself have a (moderate) drinking night as my friend was visiting from out of town.

I don't like how I feel after a couple of beers. I prefer being sober these days. My friends are immediately talking to people in the club. I feel unwarmed up. 

I delay approaching for quite a while. Saturday nights at Tiger Tiger are slightly older than thursday/friday. I like it. Also probably way easier to pull cause it isn't drunk first years who just want to makeout on the dancefloor.

Like the night before I approach the hottest girl in the club as my first approach. She hardly responds to me at all... I keep talking anyway though. Literaly keep a 95% one sided comvo up for like 2 minutes. Then she goes to the bar.

Get quite a few shots with friends. I try to pace myself though. I talk to people I know in the club. 

Do an approach on the emptyish dancefloor in the smoking section. She's a girl I pointed out earlier to my friends like "Wow look at her". Fucking gorgeous, beautiful face, long permed hair. Goes really well. Get her up against the wall. Joke about the guys she's there with being intimidating. Ask her if she thinks they'll smash bottles over my head if I try kiss her. "Oh well its worth the risk". Makeout. I was kinda just happy to have got the makeout with this girl so let her go thinking i would see her again. I didn't though.

I do some more approaches. Nothing really sticks. A few blowouts. One decent approach on a blonde on the dancefloor, got physical but she wouldn't kiss me cause she said she was with someone at the moment. Sounded legit. One friend of a girl I know was super in to me. I refrained from kissing her cause cause she wasn't super hot. She would have been down though.

More shots and beers with friends. If I start drinking then I need to keep on drinking else I hit a low. See a sexy black haired, big eyed girl acorss the bar. Eye contact, wave. Go back to talking to my friends. Nex thing she's next to. Asks if i want to go outside with her for a smoke. My first impression is that she literally wants to leave to go home with me right now. I just roll with it though. Some guy pops up and says she can't have anymore shots. Okay cool story bro.

We go to the outside area. She wants to get a drink at the bar there. Dude follows us and is watching like a hawk. She's his "best friend". Maybe he was just looking out for her but imo he was slightly overinvested.

We get over getting the drink cause the guy is telling the bar tender to not serve her. I tell her who gives a fuck what he tells the bartender but she's over it. We sit down so she can have a smoke. Turns out the dude was her lift home. The topic of her staying at my place comes up. i'm hesitant cause it seems like I'm swaying on the edge of her wanting to hook up and her just wanting to use some guy for a place to crash. So I just chat a bit more then go for makeout. She's a good kisser.

She's like lets go. Again I'm hesitant. So I decide to be explicit about it so she definitely knows whats up if she comes back with me. Tell her if she comes back with me I'm going to try hook up with her. Its cool.

So we walk back to mine. Keep chatting, keeing the vibe up. She's complaining about how far it is but I just keep talking about something else. 

Get back to mine. We chill outside and chat for a bit. Go upstairs... She wants pajamas so i give her a tight top and boxers. She says she doesn't need the boxers she's wearing guys briefs. LOL wtf... Here's this girl with a banging body, wearing a super sexy little dress and she is wearing jocks. Haha.

She changes infront of me. She has smallish but perfect boobs. Get into bed and turn the sexual on. She's being weird, one minute she's in to it and the next she turns away. Then she's like, okay lets get another drink. I'm like ok, so we go outside again. Give her a beer. She sits on my lap and we makeout a bit. She doesn't touch her drink, and we go back upstairs. This time its on and after a bit of wash rinse repeat she asks if I have a condom. DONE DEALS.

The sex was kinda weird. She didn't want to take off her shirt. Then she was like kinda punching in my ribs every now and then... I was like "um...". And to top it off she was kinda moaning all weird to the point I stopped a few times and asked her if she was ok. Afterwards I felt kinda strange, like "what just happened there??". 

Vibes were chilled in the morning and we did it again which put my mind at rest about the weird sex the night before, and whether she regretted doing it. Shirt off, in the daylight, and relatively normal sex this time. Was hot. She is hot.

Hottest girl I've had sex with as yet.

Oh and she had just turned 28, although she looks a lot younger. I'm 21.

When I dropped her off at her friends house I met her friends who were probably 30 or something. I stayed there for a little while chatting to them and the whole time I was like DUUURRR this is funny shit!

Something even funnier and also mildly disturbing she said when I was driving her, after a moment of silence: "You butchered me... with your big cock", all reflectively. WHAT THE FUCK haha.
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#57

Raevinn

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 You in Cape Town?
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#58
LethalLex

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Yip. Are you? Pm me if you are and keen to go out =)
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#59
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Monday.

Didn't go hard tonight at all. Hit The Shack with a couple of girl friends.

We chill, chat. Play some foozeball. Bar is quiet cause its a monday. There is a place across the road that has student night on monday. I should have hit it up but I felt like a more chilled kind of night. Feeling the effects of drinking and not enough sleep over the weekend.

Approach two girls at the bar. Cuties, in first year varsity. Goes well, I think the one is in to me. I comfortable with the fact that its going well though so don't push it any further. Tell them to come say hi to me upstairs later. Silly, should have just dragged them with.

Not too much interesting. Chatted to a foreign couple. Played a game of pool with the manager. Chatted with my friends more. Relaxed night but good for keeping the momentum up. Going to be doing these kinds of nights more often in the first few days of the week cause I started lectures today. But places with more girls, this venue was kinda average.

Realization I've had recently: I think a part of my motivation for going out every night is so that i feel good during the day. Going out DOES work for this - I have less negative shit running through my head and feel generally pretty centered and happy. But it's not really the point, and if I don't feel good all the time I'm like "well whats the point of going out every night". That isn't the main reason I'm out.

Half my time nowadays is spent out at clubs so I should just fully embrace being there and what I'm there for. I kinda feel like as soon as I get to the bars and stuff i feel awesome. And yet I forget that a while ago I would have prayed to feel this comfortable at the start of the night just so that i wasn't so terrified approaching girls. Now I have NO fear about approaching girls... but I''m not pushng myself past the place where i was comfortable to be in. Cause... Well... It's comfortable.

I need to start pushing myself more now. Which at this point means staying in set for longer. Pushing it harder.
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#60
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Haha dude as you're learning quickly: girls have SEXUAL QUIRKS!! hahaha

Sick work man.  Sounds like she chose you immediately.  What would you boil that down to?  How could you do that again?
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