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December 6th, 2016
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UtopiaFive

UtopiaFive

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Original title: You guys all attach so much MEANING to shit. Nothing has any MEANING, but your emotions make it seem that way.

Now I see you gotta be more emotional in the titlez to get ppl reading it.  You ARE empty on the inside.  You either feel BAD about this, or you don't know it yet...

This point is what I'm hinting at, its what I've pulled away from Jed Mckenna.  

Listen, if you start to take some of this shit PERSONALLY...stop and ask "What is that? What is that feeling? Why would I take this PERSONALLY? Do I have something to hide, protect, to lose?"  You don't.  Question that feeling that makes you want to say "UtopiaFive you're saying some gay shit WTF".  I just want this place to have more non-weirdos, and take more of the OK dudes and make them cooler.  Really.  For someone like Jeff to read this he'd be like "WTF are you talking about."  I think he probably never was in this weirdo state that most guys start in.  Tyler obviously was, I obviously was.  If you're not then...FOCUS ON THE MECHANICS, THE OUTER GAME.  If this applies to you...READ FORTH.  

Like yeah, you'll hear someone like Jeff say EXACTLY WHAT TO DO and its totally right.  But for some reason...YOU CAN'T GET YOURSELF TO DO IT.  Why?  Why do I know the right thing yet I can't do it?  

Its because you attach so much MEANING to things that isn't really there.  Sure, its "only human" to do this, but...if its "only human" to be a fucken lameo, is that what you want to be?  

Jed Mckenna.  Jed Mckenna.  Jed Mckenna.  Get the audiobooks.  I promise you, if you feel some "empty hole inside you" its a good thing.  You know there is nothing inside you.  That's what you get from Jed Mckenna.  You just used to feel BAD about it, now you'll fully understand...it means you understand...there is no point, no objective reason, none of that shit Hollywood tells you.  And then it lets you build it up, build your own story, in which you get to be the star.  

Lets look at some scenarios.  

You see some dude get PUNCHED IN THE FACE.  What do people do?  They go OHHHHHHHHH SHITTTTTT or like AHHHHWWWWWWHHHHHWWWWWW.  That response is the ATTACHING A MEANING to it.  

Ever see a kid fall down, smash his knee on the floor, then look totally fine?  Then the mother comes in screaming "Oh my baby" and then the kid just FREAKS OUT and starts CRYING?  The kid just learned OH THE MEANING OF THIS EVENT IS I MUST CRY.  As a kid he doesn't know WTF happened.  "Oh look my knee is bleeding.  Whats that red stuff dripping out?  It kind of burns.  Oh look...my mom is cscreaming...WAHHHHH"

You ever looking for a parking spot on a Friday night, then you see one and get excited (hope), and then someone else zips on it, and you get PISSED?  These two emotions are what fuck you up with girls.  Can't you simply OBSERVE "Ah there is a parking spot" and OBSERVE "Oh someone else got it, time to find another one"?  

Some guy cuts you off in traffic.  OK.  So?  Do you start screaming?  Do you not just realize "Oh guess I may want to tap the brakes a bit"?  Is it because "it makes you less of a man"?  You "got disrespected, so he gots to pay"?  WTF?

When you go out, and a girl makes a seductive comment back to you right off the bat, do you get EXCITED?  And then she does a backturn and you get a little bit DISHEARTENED?  WTF?  Who cares?  These things DONT MEAN SHIT.  Oh you got laid?  SO WHAT?  Oh you got blown out?  WHO CARES?  Its RETARDED?  You think that means you suck?  No...the reason you suck?  Is cuz you think the fact you didn't pull means you suck?  

You need to realize, you'll be banging at BEST 1 in 10 girls where things look GOOD in teh first 5 minutes anyway...WTF exactly are you getting excited about?  You're excited about the "its 10% at this point...woooo!"  You're excited that "And then beyond that, who knows if I see her again?"  You're excited that "Oh maybe I get her preggo and have to pay child support" or "Oh maybe she's gonna be my future wife"?  Who the fuck cares.  Just go ahead and PLAY IT OUT and SEE WHAT HAPPENS.  All you can focus on is the NEXT THING YOURE GOING TO DO.  That's it.  Everything beyodn that...fuckin waste of life.  

If you were watching some other dude do this pickup stuff, when your heart rate increase when he got a smile from teh girl on the open?  And would you feel almost depressed when you were about to get a "lucky lay" and at the last minute she bailed?  Sure, you can have empathy, but these emotions you need to realize are FUCKING IRRELEVANT.  

And BTW...I TOTALLY GET IT.  I remember my taxicab story where the chick just decided at my place "Oh I'm going back downtown."  The feelings I felt...it was if had I ate her little and banged her out and shot all over her face...anything would be like that different.  No...it wouldn't.  The only thing that happened was I fucked it up, I lost my mind, so I couldn't take the decisive next step that its so clear would have probably made it go down for real.  OK?  

Nothing means shit.  Freedom from outcome in life.  You kinda just do shit for teh fuck of it.  Like the idea of an ant collection seems amusing, so you go ahead and fucking start an ant collection.  That's how "exciting" this pickup stuff needs to be to you.  You do it just to fuckin do it.  Its not like some panacea for an empty life.  Your life is empty whatever you do.  You make it whatever the fuck it is.  Who cares?  

BTW for a lotta intermediate guys...you're probably seeing SYMPTOMS of what I'm talking about here...
You start to hit like 20 or so lays, and then...you realize after "WTF...something is weird?  Something is wrong?"  OK, next lay.  21?  22?  I keep not...feeling right...  25 girls.  Yeah I like her, she's cool, but...  You have some identity crisis going on.  Each additional lay, you call up your buddy and discuss "Man this shit makes me hollow."  Then you keep doing it.  You "add meaning" that you're feeling hollow.  Its really that...you're starting to get it.  Its not some big deal.  You want to be like "Man I'm so great but...I'm such a martyr" or some bullshit.  

Cut the emotions.  Do shit just to do it.  It makes you feel a certain way IN THE MOMENT but if you feel emotions about past and future...learn to cut them.  

Regret --> the past. 
Guilt --> the past. 
Hope --> the future. 
Fear --> the future.  (Obviously this one is relevant to us.)
Disappointment --> the past.  

Yes, they all occur NOW but they are all based on thinking about THE FUTURE or the PAST.  

All you can do is to live in ACTION.  DETACH all this fuckin meaning and emotional bullshit.  RIGHT NOW.  

I know, this is also mumbo jumbo sounding.  I got a few numbers off girls on DATES with fagots who are thinking like you...both were like 2-3 min number closes.  One just is all texting me and shit, excited and all.  halfway thru our date she says "I know this must happen to you all the time, but I think you're really fucken great.  You feel so natural to talk to but also still hot, etc."  She's extremely nervous about stuff she does, I have to "coax her cool side out".  She's not some fuckin megahottie, but I trust that'll come soon enough.  I KNOW it will.  But I still liked hangin out w her, and I see that what shes saying --> its a result of "being a cool dude" + "the rest of society is in this collective weird mindfuck."  Get out of it.  Other girl like texts me a bunch.  I barely remember her.  I honestly deep down thought she didn't remember me and just liked my 10 second voicemail, because I SOUND sexy as fuck.  I joke this on text and she goes into a bit of detail about how we met.  3 months ago...I don't think the same "outer game" would ahve been quite as memorable.  

Jed Mckenna.  If you don't understand this, and have SOME EXPERIENCE in teh game, I challenge you to hit Jed Mckenna.  If you can't frikkin DO THE SHIT you know you must do, you want some Jed Mckenna.  If you cant EXECUTE THE PROGRAM even when you know what it is, Jed Mckenna.  Don't sink into mental masturbation land.  Do both.  Jed Mckenna, and go out.  But you can go out forever and stay stuck in "weirdo pickup land".  You can take a bootcamp and "feel the awesomeness" of your instructor, and get a taste of the real deal, but you gotta learn how to bring that yourself.  Jed Mckenna.  It might not help.  But I can tell you with 100% certainty, it cannot hurt.  If you hear the "it fucks up 2/3 of all people who get into that for a few months"...its because they unwound further yet from the world of social conditioning.  Thats why.  Its the same reason why people say "BPD fucked me up."  

The truth is, if you have decent results but you're COMPLETELY OBLIVIOUS about shit in reality and the real world, and you don't want to FIGURE THINGS OUT aka YOURE LAZY, you need to escape pickupland.  Go home.  Keep bangin 6-7s and getting into LTRs with em since you're satisfied with that.  Seriously.  You have not much more to gain.  You are deep within COMFORT.  

But if you're lucky like me, and the early part of your life was totally WEAKSAUCE == NO GIRLS == NO SEX, well...you're prob the kinda dude who can step it up hardcore, and figure out these weird hard to describe topics.  And at that point, you just have NO OUTER GAME.  Its like "just go in".  Its like "look her in the eye".  Its like "lets go hang out...elsewhere".  

Mmmkay?  Maybe I'm just the crazy fucker posting post after post after post.  I'm going to eventually get bored of this shit, when its 100% stapled in my head.  The truth is, I know and accept that I need constant repetition of these ideas.  I need the adversity from "forum fagots" so (1) I can better clarify my thinking and philosophy and (2) so I know its real.  You can bring me to reality when I'm trying to sidestep it.  

SO yeah.  Nothing means shit.  You're going to die.  Not in the "distant future."  You're going to die in the "present."  You could die RIGHT NOW.  Or TODAY.  

When you wake up, every day, whisper to yourself "I may very well die today.  Today is a gift.  Today is a bonus."  Don't CHERISH today.  Just ACCEPT IT.  And do what you want of it.  
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UtopiaFive

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its cuz im floating on sunshine and i want for you to be as well

i continue to see 'constant repetition and hammering of BAD IDEAS' in the main forum.  

i'm trying to LEAD and make MAIN FORUM somewhere I'd rather be.  

instead of 'bein a hater' and talking shit on the negative thread im writing the shit thats in direct opposition to this stuff.  e.g. good mindsets and 'where you should be heading'.  

my thread --> has good stuff but not like "article type stuff" its more of "what im doing day to day" aka "my results" and "my action"  
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UtopiaFive

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also because....

why the fuck not?  
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UtopiaFive

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also because....why the fuck not?  

eventually i shall be rakin in $$$ and thatll be the next goal after i have better 10GAME than my friend ambiguity --- why would i not want to learn what kinds of topics attracts viewers e.g. 'how many view does a thread get and how is this affected by various factors?'  aka what is everyones emotional buttons?  at the same time i think what im saying is pretty EFFECTIVE if you do it and try to get in there.  
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I think some or alot (who knows) of  people are "full of fucked up shit " and "need all that shit emptied out" and "filled with the rigth shit." I think "the wrong shit keeps the right shit from going in". I will gain more experience and see how accurate this quote is. Stay up Utopia. GoodLuck yall. 
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Helmholtz

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You make all these threads trying to give value and it just reeks of approval seeking

Especially when you deny your seeking approval every second paragraph
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UtopiaFive

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hmm

not seeing where i 'deny seeking approval' above?  

but in reality yeah i do this partially for me, partially for you
me: clarify my understanding.  heck, even get 'internet propz' i dunno, also more important, to keep my 'brain pumpin pickup stuff even at the office'
you: maybe you can escape your mental prison that makes you 'not even trust some post and see what i can get out of it'?  

truth is when i was in the 'weird mental state' id have had the same hater type responses to a lot of the better posts

only when i got to a point of HOW CAN I USE THIS TO BETTER MYSELF? aka 'imagining that every person i ever encountered was some godlike messneger sent to teach me SOMETHING' was i able to escape a lot of that mental bullshit i claim you're in

or maybe i just want your approval.  thats why i respond super fast to posts etc.  

truth is i dont care, thats why i dont go 'hrmm let me not post for 2 hrs and hence i can look like i have a life' (as my life is very narrow in scope these days not gonna put on a false pretense now...its VERY TRUE)

Helmholtz wrote:
You make all these threads trying to give value and it just reeks of approval seeking

Especially when you deny your seeking approval every second paragraph
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Kuz

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 Yeah this echoes a really awesome thread posted on here years ago, which i can't find, but i'll try keep looking for it, but basically:

"Emotions are the illusions which exist to dramatise reality."
- Kuz
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Kuz

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 Found it:

http://www.rsdnation.com/node/131496

I remembered i'd copied it into my journal way back when.

But seriously dude, you got like OCD or ADD with all these threads LOL
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Beast Von Gandi

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Read it twice.

Yeah...I've started to realize what truly 'operating at the highest level of consciousness' means.

It means that if you're even a tiny bit aware/awake in the highest level of consciousness of your brain, that part will control the rest.

Its like getting jolted out from a sleep to instant awareness. Sharks smelling blood. No meaning or emotion, just a sharp awareness of what must be done.
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Martin Crowe

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Na bro I'm not empty on the inside.

Big overuse of the word "you". So you're talking about everybody on this forum? There are tons of dudes here who are more advanced than you mate. This all comes across as slightly condescending and naive. To be fair I actually enjoyed what you've written and there's some good ideas in there, but it also feels like a lot of shameless demagoging. Maybe it's just a cultural discrepency from my end.

BTW I don't meditate, eye gaze, or philosophise about this shit very much. But I do attach meanings to things. When I see a 120kg Samoan blockhead uppercut a little dude my natural instinct is too go Woahhhh holy fuck. When some girl brutally rejects me I do think, Shit she must be in a bad mood/be a psychopath/or maybe my approach was fucking gay. And when I have a '10' runway model go down on my dick my natural reaction is to go Fuck yeah I rock. And when I get thousands of additional dollars in commissions on top of my regular monthly salary - I also attach meaning to that - FUCK YEAH IM A BOSS, time to eat at some balla ass restaurants and make additional travel plans. 

Freedom from outcome and not over reacting are all well and good. But it's pretty fucking weird to act like some zen monk in a trance your whole life, reacting to absolutely nothing and attaching no meaning to anything.

And yeah you are starting posts excessively. 
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