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May 18th, 2013
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newstuff18

newstuff18

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I took on the 30 day challenge without intending to. I started off my weekend pretty well, and when Sunday came I was like “shit yea, I want to and can keep this going for 30 days”. This is pretty simplified and there were a few other things involved, such as being a pussy, being scared of girls, and knowing that I more than owe doing this to my true self.

I’m trying to keep my reports simple because I like to describe every emotional detail for some reason and know this can distract readers and myself. The shorter and more concise posts appeal to me much more.

Just previewed my posts, it looks like I’m writing a damn lab report. I’m an engineer and want to give you guys as many details as possible, mmm, still kind of fucked up.

Background:
Known about RSD for 2 yrs
just turned 23
Had been going out inconsistently for pry a combined amount of 4-5 months
Took Chicago BC in Oct. 2011 and pulled my first girl
Got sick after BC, went out 2 nights/wk for a month when I got better
During that month I would have cute/average girls getting into me and wanting sex. I would approach, dance, make out but become too scared to take them back to my place.
Stopped going out all Dec due to new job and picking it back up now

30 day challenge goals:
1. Go out every night for at least 30 min
2. At the start of the night go into situations just to get proof that you “won’t get killed”, be very aware of the RAS and how it finds reasons not to approach because it thinks you could get killed. Tyler’s vid on “Social Momentum”
3. Go in and put your real self out there. “Real Man’s Blowout”
4. Go in knowing that you are having sex with this girl, even if you aren’t aroused notice things about her that you like

Plan of Attack:
Hit up closer spots Sun-Wed. Start with further spots in the hopes that I don’t destroy my social environment for when I get better at this stuff.
Start with the further spots for maybe the first half (further from my place)
End with closer spots for the second half (close to my place)
Then Head into town for Thur-Sat.
I do all of my game solo, unless otherwise noted.
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Day 1 -Fri
Hit up a fair amount of girls with by telling them they’re cute. I’m able to hook really well but I’m rusty and after a few minutes it’s done. The first girl I hit up was in her later 30’s and with 2 other girls and a guy. The friends were wondering if I knew her, haha I was like “never seen her before”. The girl I approached was like “wow, you have some balls ( and grabbed her crotch)”. The rest of the night were different variations of blowouts. I went in for this cute brunette (texting on her phone), told her she was cute and some other stuff. She shit tested me right off the bat, I plowed through but was a little swayed, I told her she was being rude (because she was) which got a bit more of her attention. I pussed out and left, but knew I should have persisted.
Girls Approached: 7-10
Goals Met:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. No

Day 2 - Sat
Mega epic night, hit it up pretty hard, still pretty damn rusty but started to really self amuse. Had some really good interactions at the start. About half way through the night I had a big state crash, but after 10 minutes of walking around and a bit of self talk I started going at it hard. Things were going much better and I was sticking in there longer, but still blowouts (mainly because I didn’t follow through). At this point I’m feeling the music more and starting to dance by myself. Other girls dance around me and I dance with them. From this point onward I have this internal “beat/music” within me and blowouts don’t affect me at all. I hit up a few more places but feel myself not pushing it because I like were I’m at now.

Girls Approached: 15-20
Goals Met:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. No
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Day 3 – Sun
Did some day game with a friend and number closed a decent girl after about 10-15 minutes, it was a solid interaction. As I was leaving I texted her that I hope I see her again (she lived in a different city) and she was like “yea me too, it was nice meeting you”. Go out that night, but it is not as packed as previously and this throws me. I walk around the venues doing fist bumps with some girls, have a brief dance off with a few guys and head home.
Girls Approached: 5
Goals Met:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No
4. No

Day 4 - Monday, Jan 2, 2012
Went out at like 9:30pm and the first place I hit up was almost empty. There was a table to like 3 girls and 3 guys but they left after like 15 min. As I sit down I say “what’s up” to a guy on right. There is a guy sitting by himself on my left, after I order a water I ask how his new years was, brief conversation. I pretend to watch the football game and think about asking this guy if he has any recommendations for bars on the week nights.

After about 3 minutes of thinking, getting a bit nervous, I ask him. He goes on and tells me a bunch of places, then he starts telling me about the history of Cleveland, pretty crazy stuff I never knew. We talk for about an hour about history, economics, and ufc/fighting. As I’m about to leave he mentions how he could talk a bunch about health, I’m like hell ya, and tell him a brief outline of the warrior diet. All in all we were having some pretty thought provoking conversations for meeting some random guy. I head out around 11pm and can’t go to sleep until like 2am.

Girls Approached: 0
Goals Met:
1. Yes
2. No
3. No
4. No
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Day 5 – Tuesday
Hit up a few places. The first place I walk into is a decent sized place and there are like maybe 10 people in it. Two girls sitting at the bar, a guy and his girl friend, and karaoke is going on. I don’t do shit when I first walk in, and take a seat at the bar to get a water. This dude takes a seat next to me and I’m like “what’s up”. I can tell this guy is a local at the place and is friends with almost everyone. He is telling me how karaoke will help me pick up hot chicks, after that I tell him that’s what I’m here for. After a few minutes of sitting there I am starting to feel uncomfortable because I know I need to be doing something, the guy can feel this, tells me to get a beer.

I take a couple of looks around the place and see there are still the 2 girls and a table of 3 girls and a guy in this place, and that’s about it. I’m teetering, knowing that if I don’t do something soon I’m either not going to do any approaches. I try to get into the karaoke but can’t. I leave and go to another place. The next bar there were 3 dudes and large table of 5 girl chilling in a corner. I hang out for a sec then split, to nervous to do shit.

At this point I’m starting to get a bit pissed at myself for doing nothing. It’s getting later than I want and I hit up another bar, 2 guys at one end, 2 girls in the middle, and 2 people at a table eating. I’m still nervous and walk through the whole place and go to the bathroom downstairs. I’m like fuck, I’m a pussy. I tell myself I need to hit up the 2 girls on my way out at least, I don’t and walk out of the bar and heading back home.

After walking past those 2 girls I’m really pissed at myself and as I’m driving home I do some extreme self talk like Tyler talked about in one of his vids. Haha, it wasn’t like “hmm Tyler does this so maybe it will work”, I was actually mad at myself. The gist of it was me saying “stop being a fucking pussy, you can’t live the rest of your life like this. What the hell are you doing?, you’re going to be a coward the rest of your life and die. You can’t even talk to a few girls, you’re so safe in your illusory comfort zone bullshit, piece of shit pussy”….. Once I finish my little rant I know I can’t finish the night like this and must at least do 1 approach. I pull in the bar closest to my place, walk in, use the bathroom, and as I’m heading out I hit ask a girl were some good weeknight spots are. BOOM, 1/100th less of a pussy. Nothing major at all, but I did it.

Girls Approached: 1
Goals Met:
1. Yes
2. No
3. No
4. No, but noticed I was a little more aroused tonight.
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Day 6 – Wed
As I was going out I got pretty damn nervous as usual, but as I was driving over to the bars I was like “chill out dude, wtf”. It wasn’t like I suddenly was all pimp, but in a few moments I realized that I had been getting myself way too hyped up about going out. I became somewhat chill and comfortable with the fact that I was going out. I knew that even if I didn’t talk to anyone I would still be able to have a good time and make progress.

I hit up a few spots and make small talk with a few people. I don’t do any direct approaches, but slowly felt my internal state start to increase. As I was sitting at a bar this girl was talking about how she told her parents she had so much sex.  I thought that was amusing.

What’s really interesting is that after Tuesday night (when I did some extreme self talk) I am very aware of when I’m acting like a pussy. It’s like whenever/wherever I am (work, home, car) and start to fear something, or care too much about what people think, I’m thinking “stop being a pussy, at least be a man”. There is an automatic response that says “It doesn’t bother me if you suck, just don’t keep being a pussy”.

Girls Approached: 2
Goals Met:
1. Yes
2. No
3. No
4. No
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Day 7 – Thursday
Headed into downtown Cleveland tonight and hit up my usual spots. I was feeling pretty chill as I was driving to the place. I wasn’t trying to hype myself up with fast music or beats, I just put on some solid trip hop and felt that like "whatever happens happens". As I hit up the spots there were very few people out. I would go into a place, get a water, make a bit of small talk with the guy next to me and the bartender/DJ, then head out.

Girls Approached: 1 (bartender, small talk)
Goals Met:
1. Yes
2. No
3. No
4. No
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I can tell I’m getting much more comfortable going out, I’m feeling much more grounded, unmovable. I am feeling more connected to the people I’m around as opposed to “some guy that does his pick up thing”.  What has really taken some getting used to is the energy of the venues during the weeknights. It is very similar to day game in that people are just chillin, doing their own thing, and there are only a few sets around. This is opposed to weekends in the club were everything is loud, crowded, stimulating, and intense.

The first few days were like “oh yea, going to do my pick up thing, go nuts, and maybe never see these people again!”. Then I hit the weeknights and it was like “back to reality fucker, you can’t approach 15 different girls in the same venue, you have to stop being a pussy and hit it up the few opportunities IF they are there”. Weeknights seem much more about generating state from within, knowing you’re a good dude, and socializing.

Recap of my goals:
1. Go out every night for at least 30 min
2. At the start of the night go into situations just to get proof that you “won’t get killed”, be very aware of the RAS and how it finds reasons not to approach because it thinks you could get killed. Tyler’s vid on “Social Momentum”
3. Go in and put your real self out there. “Real Man’s Blowout”
4. Go in knowing that you are having sex with this girl, even if you aren’t aroused notice things about her that you like
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Day 8 – Friday
Damn I love the weekends; girls everywhere, downtown is packed, and lots of dancing. Got there a little early, 10:30pm, and started with the low key spot. Get in the door and open 1guy/2girls then hit a 2 set of girls. Both these were just getting used to taking and I wasn’t trying to show much intent or game them. I leave shortly after I finish these sets. Most of the places are still dead so I watch this live band play and feel the energy of the music, my state is slowly starting to increase. I hit up another spot and open a seated 2 set, it opens well but I just chat and don’t push anything. They tell me they are getting drunk tonight (hm, was this a hint….YES), but I puss out and leave after about 5 min. The places are starting to fill up. I open one girl of a 4 set, but I hesitated before going in and it completely killed it.

Things are starting to ramp up and I’m doing the “aaayyyoo” yell whenever I walk into a place. I start dancing through each place and getting into the music. After about 30 minutes of approaches I’m getting into a much better headspace and having fun. I yell after each rejection and even during some of the successful interactions, awesome. Getting a lot of blowouts, but some went well and I danced with a few girls.

Around 1am I’m pretty much fully amused, start pulling a few girls in (yell, hold out my hand as they walk by, spin, dance). One girl I open by bringing her ass into my crotch while she dances, her friend is like “Name, you know this guy?” she is like “No” , I fist bump the friend and keep dancing. I turn her around, grab her neck, and go for the makeout (about 1 min in). She was too surprised, blowout. I head back to another place, open this solid 8 with no hesitation, she tells me she is from the eastside of town. I can tell she is down for sex by her look and touch, but I puss out and quickly eject. As I leave I fist bump with the girls that rejected me and I yell their name as I walk by, it’s funny and they like it.

This was one of the more fun nights of my life. Throughout the night I met other guys trying to pick up girls or just have a good time. I briefly met these two guys from out of town, both were very dominant/alpha. While I was on the dance floor I saw them trying to dance/game girls. I was like “hell ya, lets challenge each other” and would and hit up some of the same girls with better or worse success. Haha these guys had no idea, nor did they care.

Girls Approached: 15-20
Goals Met:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Somewhat
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Day 9 - Saturday
Went out around 10:45 and was pretty tired. I usually do a meditation/visualization of my goals and feelings while I’m in the parking lot before I go in. I hit up the low energy spots first. Being tired forces me into a chill/peaceful headspace, which kept my anxiety down but didn’t allow for quick wit or fun energy vibes. I briefly chat with one guy as I walk in, it was flowing pretty well, hadn’t been able to do this before. Then I chat (not approach) with a seated girl about random stuff, she is really into it/me. Her guy friend comes, I meet him, chat with him a bit then leave.

The other places I hit up don’t have many people yet so I chatted with guys that looked lower or equal value as me. Haha, this showed me that I didn’t consider myself as having much value because one guy was very fat, was in trouble with the law, and in general weird. I told him I was trying my luck with the ladies and pointed out a very sexy one in a group (about 5 feet away). I go and open her direct, feeling pretty chill. Immediately she is scanning my eyes and as I change the topic my mind flinches. I tell her about my 30 day challenge, which she says is weird. It's going ok, then the fat dude feels inspired or some shit, goes in and tries talking to one of the friends. End of set. I leave and hit up a different girl 5 feet away, polite blowout.  Hit up other places, blowouts.

I approach a girl with her friend, the cute one shit tests me at first, passed. After talking about stuff I like in a relaxed manner the cute girl is really into me. They tell me they are both single (hm, is this a hint…. Yes). I don’t do anything physical after we meet. Then I tell them lets go to the dance floor……, and let them lead the way. The cute one is still reengaging me in conversation but I can tell I’m pussing out and eject. I hit up some various other places but it is all blowouts, me being a pussy, or trying high energy things even though I’m not feeling like it at all.

Towards the end of the night I spin this girl around, tell her she is cute, and have my arms around her waist as we are right in each other’s face talking. The two friends are like “do you know this guy?” but she is still focused on me. I puss out and break the tension by saying, “no, I have no idea who she is”. I briefly meet one friend, but the other one isn’t having any of it and drags them off. I was somewhat pissed because I knew I could have at least made out with that girl.

One girl I approached was super cute and sexy, it started off well and she told me it was her birthday. I didn’t take the interaction anywhere and left. About ten minutes later I walk by the same girl and watch as about 4 different guys try and pick her up. They don’t do anything physical, but some are making the girl laugh more than others. It was very cool to see how “normal” guys went at it.

Throughout the night I couldn't get into a rhythm and gave only 75% effort. As a result I couldn't get completely out of my head and felt neutral, not bad or good just neutral. I am trying the same style of approaches I did last night, but since my headspace is completely opposite it’s not working. Of course, I realize this only after my night is over. 

Girls Approached: 10-15
Goals Met:
1. Yes
2. Somewhat
3. Somewhat
4. No
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A few thoughts on this weekend:

Friday
Being in a super good state:

As I drove home I knew I couldn’t sleep if I was in such a hyper mindset, so I tried to bring my state down. Eventually it went down, but what ended up happening is I became pretty critical on my failures even though I had an awesome time. The next morning it was a little balanced out, I think this is good because it is like my internal "anti-pussy system/thoughts" have stayed with me and even though I’m having a good time.  It wants me to push things hard, push things toward sex, not just fun.

Saturday
Rejection and Mindsets:

Saturday night was a bit rough, but I experienced the initiation of a new mindset. My frustration brought me to these points: don’t let girls dictate the reality, it’s all about you, they aint shit, you are a cool, accomplished, fit guy. The point is: why should you let some girl whose main source of value is her looks be able to intimidate me? Why am I letting someone who gets their value from their looks (as opposed to being a good human being, hard worker, in good shape, etc) dictate reality? I still deeply appreciation women, but am realizing what I means to communicate man to women.

The mindset shift that I described above was something that I could only have learned through experience. Only after going through a good amount of blowouts and feeling as if I had hit a wall (in terms of my results/state) did my frustration drive me towards changing my mindset. It was like I was forced to adapt.
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#10

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Dude, great progress.

You took a bootcamp, did you get feedback notes after the bootcamp?  Are you following the process you learned in the bootcamp, if it's in the notes?
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