THE FORUMS
truthfully I do have some resistance to this, not because I have a problem with telling girls these things but because in my experiance when I talk to a girl about what my goals are, how I expect us to treat eachother etc. I get alot of attraction but she then wants me to be her boyfriend before anything happens? maybe it was a lack of showing my sensability or I came off as trying to show off but I have just had a bad experiance with this. Where as if I just blab nonsense, shut my mouth and be physical I get much better results. anyways, I will try and show sensability and vulnerability and see what happens down the road.
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"It is one thing to study war
and another to live the warrior’s life."
—Telamon of Arcadia,
mercenary of the f i f th century B.C.
" Nobody knew I was done. Nobody cared[...]Next morning I went over to Paul ’s for coffee and told
him I had finished. “Good for you,” he said without looking up. “Start the next one today.”"
-Steven Pressfield
"It is one thing to study war
and another to live the warrior’s life."
—Telamon of Arcadia,
mercenary of the f i f th century B.C.
" Nobody knew I was done. Nobody cared[...]Next morning I went over to Paul ’s for coffee and told
him I had finished. “Good for you,” he said without looking up. “Start the next one today.”"
-Steven Pressfield
I find that this stuff works great if youre a man already, as in if youre relatively comfortable with yourself, dont feel needy and are comfortable with how others judge you. Telling a scarcity minded dark noob to go open up to the girl doesnt sound like a best bet, its almost like you wanna cultivate a baseline of being a douche and then from there you can start being congruent, looking for more honest chemistry, etc. Just thoughts...
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Fucking 10 girls in 2 months aint really that impressive to me, i was close to this number recently and i only go out on weekends cos of focusing on my career and shit.
Awesome stuff man. This is where my head is at. What do you do for a career? I am in my mid 20s, bought a house meaning, I have a mortgage, I maximize my financial portfolio contribution, reinvest interest, and continue to further my career. I just put together a 5yr plan for myself which consists of furthering my career, buying multiple properties, and in the long term, taking business to the next level. Along the way, I intend to do a date with destiny seminar with Tony Robbins in the next 2 at which point, I would have built up a reasonable amount of capital, under taken multiple investments, and been promoted multiple times. I can't do 7days a week. If you are an instructor, this stuff pays the bills, I am sure it can be done however, my finances need to be in order, the mortgage must be paid, the car must be paid, and my savings takes priority over girls. The past two year relationship has amounted to sex, some good, and fun times but, what more? How many pulls does it take for lasting fulfillment?
I am trying to find balance and some sort of centeredness. I have zero interest in a long term relationship but, I am all ears for anyone that is successfully pulling out the stops in their career, and doing pretty damn good at pick up too. I need to catch my bearings and I took off briefly on a short get away. I cannot afford boot camp at the moment but, within the 5yr plan, it is coming along the way. I also want to do hot seat and free tour in the meantime while, networking a group of awesome young men like myself that are dedicated to cold approach. Its much easier said then done. Open to tips man?
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TheFinisher
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Join Date: 05/17/2011 | Posts: 837
Your authenticity seems skyhigh and women just ground themselves in that. The discipline...awesome.
Thanks for posting dude.
You may know that I was heading into girlfriend zone in early December, but its seems to have taken a little break, and I have not seen my main girl in a few weeks, she is dealing with some personal issues alone in the family and cant really be what I would need her to be. So we are just keeping in contact until the time is right. But anyways, that has opened me up to meeting new woman. Its been going really well as a mater of fact. Almost as good as its ever been.
...it all started cause I felt like I was Wasting my time...
To me, being in a club for 3 hours hitting on chicks that aren’t that cool, so that I can take her home to enjoy 30 minutes of drunken pleasure was not worth it to me. It just felt like a bad time investment. With a low reward. So I moved over to chicks I enjoy my time and conversations with. and I will actively say this to girls “I like that your honest with me. i think all relationships need honesty, so we got a good foundation . I enjoy our conversations, your someone It would be a pleasure spending time with ( concept credit Alexander)” and I mean it when I say it. And they feel its not a line, because our brief interaction has felt legit so far.
The skill at become better at game, is really the art of becoming more “normal”
Choosiness is not attractive. However Sensibility is the in the top 5 attractive quality’s a man can possess in my humble opinion. If this is used in the right amounts, This is the MOST powerful stuff I have discovered in game ever.
If I had to guess the reason this all works. Is because it shows you are a man that wont snap, has boundaries, self control, and is emotionally mature. All the qualities a woman needs to see that you have to be alone with you in a private place and feel safe. Once she knows you are this type of man, she can let down her defenses and get sexual with you and feel safe. Its like automatic comfort and trust.
A sensible man also has intuition into how a woman is really feeling. It comes down to the questions you ask a woman when you are with her and the things in your life you are willing to talk about. As your self, are you willing to talk about your family goals or problems, your career ambitions, your feelings about subjects, or to ask questions about the real her.
For example:
Me: Are you lonely in life?
Chantel: Yes always.
Me: you can have sex with any man you want, but you cant find love
Chantel: i hope find love....cause i dont like have sex with many man
Me: I understand.
Chantel: its the same for you...you look great you can have sex with who you want
Me: not anyone, but if i want i can have sex everyday, but i like it better with a woman i enjoy to spend time with
Chantel: ohhh..thats cute...loll
Me: oh thanks, do you want to come over tonight for some wine - red or white?
Chantel: i if come....its red
(we then pick out the wine together on the SAQ website)
This conversation lets the girl know im down to hook up, but im not emotionally invested in making the sex happen. My words match my actions and behavior.
I have had 6 girls come to my house at 11pm this month for a first date. How? Honestly I say to them “I think your attracted to me, and that’s why your taking to me, and im happy about that, because im attracted to you to. We might have sex, we might not. And that’s fine with me, I dont really care. But if something does happen, it will happen because we both want it to” – next thing you know, im sending them google map directions to my house ;) – Demonstrating sensibility.
Its not that girls don’t want to have sex. They don’t even mind being sluts ever now and then, they just don’t want to be TREATED like a slut, even if they are going to be slutty with you. Meaning, she wants to be called, talked to, and have neutral time with you first.
You are basically allowing the woman a glimpse into your headspace and mind. Have you ever had a girl say “ I need to get to know you better” … I think this is what she really means. Its not technique based pickup, its showing you are a man with certain quality’s. Quality based pickup. Once the girl is convinced you have those quality’s, she is ready to seal the deal and move things forward.
Remember MM's old 5 to 7 hour rule? This disappeared from the community when RSD dudes having sex with girls 1 hour from meet to the bed. I can still do this 1 hour pull. But I prefer 5 to 7 hours because there is better long term retention and I want to pick a girl I actually enjoy spending time with. I just constantly keep the sexual tension in our relationship even though we could be having coffee, or shopping for soup at wallmart. I am still the same awesome vibrant guy, so im not worried about the vibe dying out. I used to feel like the 5 to 7 hours was for the girls, but now that time is for me ;)
I have not had LMR with the last 10 girls I have been with. im serious, I mean no LMR at all.
Sensibility might not be useful for the drunken bar star in the pub, but its something worth developing in your communication for retention, daygame, and online game.