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UtopiaFive

UtopiaFive

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Yeah I know that because I remember a PM thread we were having where you said "Blah blah the cool kids something but today I've still banged way more girls than any of them..." (my paraphrase) and I realized the flaw in that logic (that we all try and think is important) -- and that is...we'd still more want to hang out with the cool kids today, than they would want to hang out with us.  

That's when I realized "Uhh...yeah its not all about bangin chicks."  I'm guessing based on what you wrote right here, you're basically just seeing that...figuring out how to "get" what it is you liked about the cool kids and getting it for yourself.  

Cool shit man.  
roadrally wrote:
I am going through some very similiar realizations at the moment.  
Right now I feel like for the most part things in my life are all sorted out. I worked hard for this shit for my life to be the way that it is. And I deserve to just be happy!
Its like tyler says in the blueprint, some people act cool or whatever because they have 10 other girls or 10million dollars to their name, or maybe they act cool just because they decided they could.

Coming into this game, like the state of my life was like a withering plant, barely alive, not thriving at all. And then I was like I am going to learn the trick to get girls. And then what the process teaches you is that theres not really a trick. You just have to become a healthy plant in general.  And like initally you thought you wanted to just get laid because when you get laid you feel good. But what you really wanted all along was to just feel good. And that happens by like turning your soul into a healthy plant. Then you just feel good. And you get laid too.   

I've had the AHA! pertaining to the paragraph above, now its just hammering in the refrence expereinces to solidify and strenghten the belief into my reality.
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UtopiaFive

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So normally I just "let shit happen" and most SNLs turn into nothing.  

Here I'm actively trying to "make it stick" from now on cuz I'd like to be able to go out 1-2 nights a week but still have sex more often (though maybe this is infeasible for me, I don't know).  

The morning of, I drop her off at her car (back in SF, 25-30 mins away).  I bang the chick before we leave the apt.  She's kinda back in this "omg my car" state and I remind her "Dude I told you if you have a ticket or whatever, I got it, I forgot to check where you were parked last night."  

So I drop her off, no ticket, no nothin, sweet, and I get her # at this point.  (I usually don't go for the # period, and just do after bangin.)  

She didn't want to go to a diner for breakfast or whatever since "She was still dressed for the club."  OK fair enough.  As I get back home and end up getting food w a friend, I text her "Guess I gotta get food w my buddy instead of you" or something, she responds about getting breakfast like a smoothie or something herself.  

A few hours later I text "Time for the sleep mask!" (since she was making fun of me having a sleep mask by my bed the night before)

No response, but no big deal.  The next day I text her something like "Its sunny.  Go run.  --Tom" since she kept talking about "Dur I need to start running again" when we were hangin out.  (Maybe this text was gay, but whatever.)   Again, no response, but whatever.  Monday night, give her a call, no response.  

Then later that night I have a long call with my buddy about pickup shit (actually went to like 2 hours, WTF!) and we started talking about "Oh yeah this shit is weird, the no callback after a solid SNL" which we actually both get often.  I was then thinking about to my GF 2 yrs back and how I turned it from a "bang sesh with a lack of response after...to more bangage down the line" -- and then I was like "Yknow when people were saying 'that shit aint gonna happen man' I did it...by sending weirdly needy texts, I think this'd work on this girl."  The difference would be "I want to actually BE NON-NEEDY while I try this."  

My needy text I sent was "Yo little lady just wanted to tell you i enjoyed meeting you last weekend, glad we met, hope we get to hang out again sometime."  

Then my friend said "Here is the WORST one...send this" and so today I did...
"Michelle listen, i usually never just randomly hook up.  Something about you though makes me feel we had a real connection though. I hate expressing my feelings like this but i really would like to see you again."
AND LO AND BEHOLD MINUTES LATER (just now!)
she responds "I've never just randomly hooked up with a stranger before, I honestly feel kinda bad about it..."

DING DING DING.  Maybe the buyer's remorse can be fully switched up here.  LETS SEE.  
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ambiguity

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UtopiaFive wrote:
I just like gave myself a flaxseed facial. 

That is awesome man. On a health and holistic nutrition kick?

UtopiaFive wrote:
DING DING DING. Maybe the buyer's remorse can be fully switched up here. LETS SEE.


There is only one way to find out.

Tell her where you are going and to come out.

Just keep focused on abundance.

If you feel like you are not on top form, do yourself a favor, and flake or make an excuse.

Still go out. have a flirt, charm other girls, she is still there, you pulled so, not much to lose at this point right?
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Cat

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Man.  Maybe it's just me but I never ever feel needy sending a girl some fucking love-bubble romantic shit the next morning.  Like.. constantly, everytime.  Calling her gorgeous, amazing, brilliant, fun, hilarious, sexy.. all that shit.  I rarely ever "come off as" playing shit cool.  Genuine "I love you right now" shit.  

BUT because I am ACTUALLY, actually, a fucking pimp, and I have that abundance, it all lands right because.. WHO I AM as a MAN is NOT ATTACHED or NEEDY.  Not like.. the text.. but WHO I AM.

And likewise I know you are the same way, so idk if you did that "cold" style of texting because you thought it was better or something but I will tell you for a guy like you, it's unncessary and might even be fucking your shit up.

Girls, even if they know / are cool with you being a mad gangster, still want to feel special.  This is true of every girl I am dating, they all know, but they all love that lovey-dovey shit.  

My 2 cents.  

And OTOH its YOUR STYLE so you do what works for you.  Just giving you a foil / perspective to balnace your options.
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UtopiaFive

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ambiguity:
This facial was accidental. I was intended to eat it (in a smoothie). Semi gay if you're actually congrats-ing me for rubbing a seed in my face lol. :-)

Cat:
Fair comment.  I actually don't feel needy sending/saying this shit, I only ever USED TO do stuff like this when I actually was FEELING needier.  I guess I wasn't even aware that the previous texts seem "cold" or whatever, I just thought its more normal.  

BTW with these girls you say lovey dovey shit with...do they start to THINK they're like your girlfriend or something?  I guess say I understand how you can say shit like "daym girl i looove you" even out loud without it being "too serious or something".  I think actually I used to just have trouble limiting how "lovey dovey" I would get, so it would be either all or nothing.  Whereas you're basically saying "You can do it just limit it (either in time or degree)"
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Some of these girls are verrrrrry much "falling for" or "in love with" me.  Like, full emotional commitment, openness, etc.  They all know I'm not monogomous.  Some of them are just cool with fucking every once in a while.  It ranges depending on the girls but the capacity for that part of a relationship to exist IN a nonmonogmous relationship is something I'm exploring in my life right now.  One girl, I think, is very much in love.  And my blond is utterly fucking obsessed with fucking me.
-Cat

Ps.  Interestingly though, not one of them has called me boyfriend.  We speak about "past boyfriends and girlfriends" but the term isn't said.  Nevertheless I think that the capacity for emotional commitment without that term is unaffected --> she can and will fall in love with you under the right circumstances, regardless of label.

Double Ps.  By the way I am exploring my own openness to have a serious emotional commitment to a single woman while still keeping all the rules about sexual relationships off the table.  So it's not just one way, I'm also willing to go there.
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UtopiaFive

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So today I realized I might as well actually text this girl that fell through the cracks.  I actually thought I saw her at Chipotle and well that was my excuse.  

Now that we're texting a bit again (funny enough as I move to the burbs where she actually was living w her parents she's moved up to the city) I'm like...realizing that normal conversations are boring as fuck, so, well, she's the kinda girl who likes to ask a lot of questions like "Oh, why did you do ...?"  

And so I'm just feeling like I'm going to turn into a compulsive liar with ridiculous made up stories that I tell as if they are true.  

I moved down to the suburbs because ... "hurm yea well its a little bit of a complicated story..."

I think its just going to turn into something ridiculous like my roommate tried to kill himself and his parents were asking me if it was because I didn't mop the kitchen floor, and well, its ACTUALLY because of his new girlfriend, who I just found out was coincidentally MY ex-girlfriend from back in Seattle.  And I don't even know WHO was like making the threatening phonecalls but they said I HAD to move out of [blah address] or else...  The gf?  Or the family?  It was all so... confusing... so... scary.  I'm just glad I'm... out of there.  :'(

Or something like that.  

Lying for fun.  I actually have an old buddy (who I met thru RSDN but doesn't care for it anymore for some reason) who did this shit but on like a MASS SCALE.  Like he and his friend would penetrate SOCIAL CIRCLES pretending to have Australian accents n shit with completely separate alter egos.  (Or heck maybe he made THAT shit up haha.)  

Or maybe I won't do this.  (Step out of your comfort zone bro.)  LOL
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 Self amusement through drama. 
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UtopiaFive

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Yeah at first I found some Julien's other shit (like what he shows at Summit at least) so fucked up right because I could see his lines/texts as shit I NATURALLY ACTUALLY SAID and DID in like...codependent relationships.  

I guess really though that's just a secret advantage I have cuz in my head I know "Ah yes this is what I WOULD HAVE done to (i) make her feel guilty or (ii) try and make her feel shame or (iii) get her defensive" LOL.

Now I see that like..."Uh maybe this is actually GOOD for the girl because by fucking w her shit you're actually teaching her and pushing her over the edge sooner so she can deal w her own boundary issues sooner rather than later."  Or maybe that's just a clever rationalization.  :-)
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UtopiaFive

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So i got wisdom teef pulled friday and planned to go out both fri and sat.

Didnt happen. Been sleepim a bunch.

I got some girl to drive 1.5 hrs to see me today (sunday). Guess this needy texting thing works lol. This is azn from summit 2011 btw. I guess i just gotta play around more n tell em i like you n shit etc.  

What was HILARIOUS is after all this "convincing" I literally fall asleep for an hour then see the text "ok whats ur address?"  What a dick :-)  
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