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UtopiaFive

UtopiaFive

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Wednesday night I go out with Buddhagames to classy ass SF venue.  

This place usually KILLS me and I also usually go there solo.  

Tonight was a bit different.  First off, I had "decided" fuck all to the bullshit "what if girls see me beasting on every fuckin in there" -- its a smallish venue and gets super packed, and is "weird" early on since people are just standing around the edges waiting for shit to get rolling.  

I get in, and...walk straight to the bathroom.  Oh well...I did have to take a nice dump.  Bathroom smelled nicely of shit covered by ammonia.  Poorly done cleaning job sirs.  

I get back out...walk back towards entrance.  Stand around a bit.  I feel conflicting pulls within me.  Part of me is all "Uh, its early, didn't meditate yet, lets go do meditation in car then come back and own."  Part of me is "Uh lets do the hardest sets available and then go do that."  I find myself asking "Uh...WTF...which ones are hard/desirable?"  I don't even know.  I decide to just fuck it, run out, repark my car (its not in an ideal spot if I stay past 2am I'll get a ticket), then I do like 4 minutes of meditation, then go back to the club.  

I kinda notice a random dude like giving me a look as I walk by.  I realize "That's how I look...when I'm in my head and not in the zone" and realize just a few minutes of meditating while staring into my own eyes has kinda locked in a little bit more of an aura or some shit.  This stuff is still weird to me honestly and I'm just going with my crazy thoughts on it even though it might be totally wrong.  

Get in venue, and...big group...I just go in on the hottest girl.  Its good for 3 seconds lol, then her friend is all "Can we take the picture first?"  They actually WERE about to have a picture taken which is great (thank you Mystery for the 3 MINUTE EXCEPTION to the 3 SECOND RULE lol) then I just turn and talk to a guy (who turns out to be in their group).  I find I talk to random dudes a lot more which I guess is cool, its not like out of "fear" or something just out of my own desire to also "be more social overall" -- AKA if I live in this damn city I might as well also meet dudes and get the social circle thing to happen, at least take the zeroeth and first steps on this.  I honestly have no idea how to "make guy friends" outside of pickup or some activity like jiu jitsu or a sports league I guess...but I figure just like before pickup I didn't realize some girls just thought I was hawt and obv wouldn't approach me, I also figure some dudes who may or may not have hawt chick friends think I'm awesome for no goddamn reason (I mean, I guess if I ever have a REAL conversation with an "average guy" who isn't all blinded by his own blindspots and shit, I do tend to find that they think I'm the coolest person in the world...its just that there usually tends to be more of a "context" for meeting them than just "cold approaching" them...good insight to keep in mind actually).  

Anyway, I think I hit another one before I see Buddha appear from the shadows and then we start talking, this place really IS the loudest place ever...I see him open the HOTTEST girl in there, and I'm actually a bit surprised that after a "slight dismissal" he doesn't stay on it 100% but only like uh 80% (still opens) as I've been seeing the past few days (like I think he actually does Alex's "try up to 4 times" but it might be 3 or something not 4...without thinking about it, and on an emotional level realizes the "initial abruptness they put off is just a formality" also described by Alex).  I go to grab some water at the bar and then he's out of that set and we're talking about how this is prob the loudest club in America (no kidding).  Some huge titted chick is behind me trying to get ot the bar and I saw "Blah blah wait yo turn" and she says "Yeah just let me in after" and I see a penny on the bar and grab it and give it to her "Someone is a poor tipper."  She laughs and grabs her (huge fake) tits and says "I'm worth way more than that!"  I honestly interpret this as she's a hooker so I say "Ah...you're one of THOSE huh."  She laughs and starts walking off.  Buddha thinks "No I think she just liked you and said some retarded shit."  Oh.  Quite likely.  

AKA we are forgetting that EVEN HOT GIRLS are going to be MORE STIFLED THAN US at the start of the night...

Approach machine all night, pretty damn good stuff honestly.  We have a few killer approaches each IMO.  

One 3set is walking in the bar and I open the first one.  She's pretty goddamn sexy, pretty into me, but keeps saying "I know your game you just stop the first girl who walks in the bar."  She then tries to shove me on her friend "She needs the attention more than I do."  I am doing some stuff really well here honestly like "You think you can just give me to your friend?  I already like you better.  Lets talk to her but she has to know we're together."  I honestly dunno if this is too much SOI too early but her previous shit made me think she liked it (I mean she SAID she liked it, BUT that "she knows my game" LOLWTF).  Eventually she walks off...I tap her friend on the shoulder and keep telling her "You're XYZ right?  Yeah Allison said you're cool.  Isn't she awesome?  Sorry to steal her away for so long but tell her I love her.  Yeah yeah yeah don't let her forget Tom."  I prob should have said "Remind her how awesome I am" but whatever, minutiae.  I'm not concerned with appearing needy as much as I am just finding what's most effective for me now.  

Eh there's more but I gotta take a dump and get some work done.  Good night overall.  

In being a motormouth to BG I remembered my old "DBAG game" idea of just getting the HOOK then doing a NICE TO MEET YOU.  BG did it a few times with awesome results.  At another bar I thought I "had" this girl as I dragged her like 20 feet off the open to a wall, talk to her face to face with the threat of mouthrape in the air, and even though she was into it, when she saw BG she runs up to him.  (I'm there thinking "fuckin tall ass mofo!" but he tells me right after "No I did the nice to meet you thing!")  

Minotaur is there, this is his normal spot I think.  Fuckin always see him there standing around lookin solid (guy looks so damn jacked now, I used to just think "guy keeps getting fatter" but really he was up to what I'm doing now, just getting huge which involves getting the fat gain too), not talking to anyone (not even his buddy BT) and then out of nowhere I later see him SOLID on some hotty that neither BG nor I really hooked solid on.  Towards end of night he's in makeoutzone with the hottie and I'm fucking around w some little fatty who then says "lets make out on the wall too" (rollseyes yay making out by Minotaur you damn fatty).  I'm trying to pull for carbang and Minotaur tells me "just pull her out stop asking permission" since I kept saying "lets go smoke outside blah" or "yo there's a spot there that's more private" and she wouldn't budge.  Still didn't help.  Whatevs. 

Did 13 minutes meditation later that night.  
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UtopiaFive

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LOL yay so someone's boss is wanting to approve time off to summit "conditional on meeting checkpoints."  

Will be "doing my best" to meet said checkpoints but looks like someone is regaining motivation for nojob lifestyle.  
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A+ work
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Ballgames

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Okay.

First off: You guys don't actually get how loud this club is. I'm one of the loudest dudes I've ever met and, in the beginning, I was getting blown out, simply because girls couldn't hear me.... It was fuckin rediculous.

Also- yeah... we were def. approaching the HOTTEST fucking girls there... That one tall hispanic/asian looking girl was ABSOLUTELY rediculous. I went in on her like 4-5 times... was SUPER CLOSE to hooking the third time...

You were doing relaly well, man. I thought that your interactions were pretty solid.

The girl who was with the 2 friends who you stopped right below the stairs- she came up to me at one point and goes, "Where's your friend?" and I was like... durr... and just pointed at you- as you're like hardcore involved in a set with another girl.

Sorry bout that- next time, I'll just be like, "I DONT KNOW..... DURR... .WHERE IS HE?"

Really interesting to hear you write about your perspective of what I was doing... lmao- I didn't even realize I was doing the whole, "Go in 4 times" or wtvr.

Also- that first girl... it DID open.. didn't it!.... but then she couldn't fucking hear me and asked what like 4 times and I reacted to the situation, got pissed and was like... FUCK IT
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UtopiaFive

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Damn I actually liked that girl from the stairs.  Oh well.  Just goes to show "even in a night of very few real hooks and interactions, if you're money, you'll meet a hottie you like."  Even if that's just 33% of nights, that means 2 of these kinds of girls a week or 10 or so a month, and even if just banging 33% of these (be it on a day2 or however), its like 3 new hotties a month, and even if just "keeping" 33% of these, that's like 1 new hottie a month "on the regular."  

That really was the old blindspot of mine man.  Not going for the hotties.  Of course my math is overassuming I'm going out every night, but it makes sense.  I wasn't TRULY thinking long-term in the past (AKA I'd rather have been pulling a 7 tonight than a 9 this month).  
Buddhagames wrote:
The girl who was with the 2 friends who you stopped right below the stairs- she came up to me at one point and goes, "Where's your friend?" and I was like... durr... and just pointed at you- as you're like hardcore involved in a set with another girl.

Sorry bout that- next time, I'll just be like, "I DONT KNOW..... DURR... .WHERE IS HE?"
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UtopiaFive

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Buddhagames wrote:
"Go in 4 times" or wtvr.

Also- that first girl... it DID open.. didn't it!.... but then she couldn't fucking hear me and asked what like 4 times and I reacted to the situation, got pissed and was like... FUCK IT

Well I think it took those FOUR TIMES for you to think "it didn't open" -- most guys would just take the FIRST TIME to think it didn't open.  But it did open except you kept trying to get her to "hear what you said" instead of just continuing to talk.  
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Beast Von Gandi

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If you purely just go by the numbers you'll prolly get these percentages. But that you care that they're hot or that you're wanting it too badly will ensure that your game will tank and it'll probably not happen.
UtopiaFive wrote:
Damn I actually liked that girl from the stairs.  Oh well.  Just goes to show "even in a night of very few real hooks and interactions, if you're money, you'll meet a hottie you like."  Even if that's just 33% of nights, that means 2 of these kinds of girls a week or 10 or so a month, and even if just banging 33% of these (be it on a day2 or however), its like 3 new hotties a month, and even if just "keeping" 33% of these, that's like 1 new hottie a month "on the regular."  

That really was the old blindspot of mine man.  Not going for the hotties.  Of course my math is overassuming I'm going out every night, but it makes sense.  I wasn't TRULY thinking long-term in the past (AKA I'd rather have been pulling a 7 tonight than a 9 this month).  
Buddhagames wrote:
The girl who was with the 2 friends who you stopped right below the stairs- she came up to me at one point and goes, "Where's your friend?" and I was like... durr... and just pointed at you- as you're like hardcore involved in a set with another girl.

Sorry bout that- next time, I'll just be like, "I DONT KNOW..... DURR... .WHERE IS HE?"

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I disagree man.

I want to be able to fuck every girl that I am attracted to... which means that I need to make a particular point to step to the hotties.



Beast Von Gandi wrote:
If you purely just go by the numbers you'll prolly get these percentages. But that you care that they're hot or that you're wanting it too badly will ensure that your game will tank and it'll probably not happen.




UtopiaFive wrote:
Damn I actually liked that girl from the stairs.  Oh well.  Just goes to show "even in a night of very few real hooks and interactions, if you're money, you'll meet a hottie you like."  Even if that's just 33% of nights, that means 2 of these kinds of girls a week or 10 or so a month, and even if just banging 33% of these (be it on a day2 or however), its like 3 new hotties a month, and even if just "keeping" 33% of these, that's like 1 new hottie a month "on the regular."  

That really was the old blindspot of mine man.  Not going for the hotties.  Of course my math is overassuming I'm going out every night, but it makes sense.  I wasn't TRULY thinking long-term in the past (AKA I'd rather have been pulling a 7 tonight than a 9 this month).  




Buddhagames wrote:
The girl who was with the 2 friends who you stopped right below the stairs- she came up to me at one point and goes, "Where's your friend?" and I was like... durr... and just pointed at you- as you're like hardcore involved in a set with another girl.

Sorry bout that- next time, I'll just be like, "I DONT KNOW..... DURR... .WHERE IS HE?"


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Thursday night

Bang old FB.  Want to go to gym but super late.  Have to walk in downtown Oakland to withdraw cash from ATM for bridge toll.  Serious out of comfort zone experience here.  

I'm sleepy.  Eat big dinner and sleep.  

Wake up early.  Can't stay asleep past 9 lol.  Eat big breakfast.  Can't finish half of it.  

Shit, shower, shave.  

Have 1 hour phone call with therapist guy.  Pretty damn useful conversation.  Pretty damn excited.  
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UtopiaFive

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Uh so actually I think I just had this moment:



I was walking back to my office from the nearby Target and I look up at this car and theres too hotties in it.  The one sitting shotgun smiles a fucking sexy smile and waves.  

I've had shit like this before but uh this time it was just different.  Looking very forward to next 3 months.  
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