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Sonnie

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Freedom cannot be faked. It's all in your subcommunication on all levels. It's simply a lack of restraint in expressing who you are. The
Less restraint you have, the more attractive you are. Final. Why? Because the lack of restraint in expressing who you are says it all.
You become a DHV by default, always displaying your peacock
Feathers fearlessly.

It's not even who you are that is seductive at all. That is actually quite arbitrary. It matters little if you're a self-help tofu diet tolle guy or
A criminally insane warlord. The lack of restraints is what is seductive.
The women always project onto you and rationalize who you are to them anyway ;) The lack of restraints in expression is the key. You can always adapt new behaviors, grow as a person and evolve into whatever you wish but you have to be walking around with as lttle
Restraint to your expression as possible.

They say routines and such are training wheels. Physical game and beasting is also training wheels. It's not the moves but what the moves communicate about you. Simply put, the awesome results
One gets from properly executing routines and physicality are small bursts of the real thing...the real thing being walking around without
Restraints. Even things like meditation and being in different kinds of
Altered states are really just training wheels for actually being unrestrained.

The power of this should never be underestimated. You literally can just sit there with no regard to seduction or getting laid, you don't even have to talk to anyone and the people around you will be inexplicably fascinated by you. You don't even have to be in state. Something about you will give off that stench of freedom and THIS is the seductive thing about you.

This is what makes the best the best. This is what seperates lovers from providers and gives you choice in this realm. This is what seperates guys who always have to chase, put in lots of effort for minimal gains and never have girls chase them or invest from guys
Who actually don't have to do much at all. The guy who'll fuck your girlfriend is this guy as is the guy who can just walk off with your girl by doing less than you.
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alienantfarm

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So are you unrestrained? Otherwise sounds like KJing to me.

What's your results like, pulling every time you go out?
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My personal philosophy: You need to step to every single girl like a fucking bomb. You need to have presence. You need to stand out, and not in a surface level way such as what you're wearing, but as who you are and the way in which you communicate. You need to be unforgettable. You need to create a sense of urgency, that you are now or never. You need to push and at the same time be completely willing to walk away. It is essential to disidentify with the ego, otherwise the inherent rejection associated with pickup will destroy you.

"You need to let them know what kind of man you are, so they know what kind of woman to be."
"Fear is always a constant, but accepting it...makes you stronger."
"Once you done slayed 20-30 of them hoodrats, now you ready to go up to the upper echelon type ho."
"I've got no game. And every face looks the same. They've got no name. So I don't need game to play. I just say whatever I want to whoever I want. Whenever I want, wherever I want, however I want."
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RSDLatos

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Sonnie wrote:
Freedom cannot be faked. It's all in your subcommunication on all levels. It's simply a lack of restraint in expressing who you are. The
Less restraint you have, the more attractive you are. Final. Why? Because the lack of restraint in expressing who you are says it all.
You become a DHV by default, always displaying your peacock
Feathers fearlessly.


It really is that simple. Simple...but fucking hard!
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LeftHand

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Sounds like you hit state. Nice, keep going out.
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FR's detailing my progression
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G Bizz

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Good stuff. Aka vulnerablilty.
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Tyler

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Yup.  You've got it!

This is hard to explain to newbies and therefore very cryptic.

btw you can FORCE your brain into this state.....



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Vendera

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 No No DUDE !!! If you dont have the routines you cant get her ! Hahahaha !! Fuckin hilarious. Of course its about what it comunicates about you. Its not what you say ... but what it says about you when you say it. State + Intent + Freedom of outcome ! C'mon sing with me! STATE + INTENT + FREEDOM FROM OUTCOME , STATE + INTENT + FREEDOM FROM OUTCOME. 
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Sonnie

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First poster...I do okay. I improved much much much more over last year but its been with a
Balancing act with the short bursts of state and tactics. My chariot always turns into
A pumpkin and its constant reality snap backs followed by being pimp. My consistency
Improves more and more by realizing that a lack of restraint is the key. Every time
I've gotten the hottest chicks and done the best shit and gotten the amazing results
It's been due to that lack if restraint in expression. The pimpest guy in the room is the guy
With the least restraints.

I've had a weird
Night recently where I went out with a non community guy who just came back from jail.
He's a chode that is an approach machine. He approache a lot because he has no fear or
Appraoch anxety AT ALL. No nerves at all on this kid. He gets so bored he falls asleep
At the club mid approach. No nerves.

Approaching like 70 chicks (from the moment we met up he was beasting) no fear and
No conscience at all...one would think "70 girls and only got a dance from a 7 and a makeout
From a 4?" He was dressed nice and looks generically "acceptable" but what was missing?
He has restraints on his personality. He may be fearless and a machine at approaching, he
Always burns every set to the ground...but he's held back by being apprehensive with
Expressing himself fully. Notice his apprehension is a very slight apprehension
But that's enough to kill everything else he does. The lack of apprehension has to
Be legiitamate across the board, not jusy during the initial approach or escalation but
Also during conversation and during all else.

The "magic" part of seduction is that lack of apprehension. The rest is all just
Leading and logistics and sometimes lack of apprehension makes those things
Take care of themselves (aka a girl leads you to HER logistical place to suck
Your dick) the lack of apprehension and restraint is what makes you walk
Like a pimp and talk like a mack. It's not a forced thing, it's like allowing.
Ever been really attracted to a girl who wasn't the archetype of what's classically
Hot, the kind of girl who's not a model or pornstar type but who everyone
Is clearly facinated by? Or ever seen a guy who just sits there and does nothing
But girls all want him? This is the mysterious and magical force behind that
Ultra magnetism.

Yeah, thls is KJ'sh but I assure you that this shit is real.

Tyler...

I don't want to be mr know it all because I myself hate know it alls but
You said its a kind of "state". I'm not sure if it is, there are people I see
Who are clearly magnetic all the time becuase that's just how they
Move through the world regardless of state. I don't really think the state is
the end all be All, I think there's more. State to me is like synomous with
A portail or window of some kind that shows me what is possible once
One let's go of restraints. I look at it like "meh, state, but there's more".
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Obratha

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Nice post
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JFM

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For me, keeping this in mind makes all the mistakes and process worth while.
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Be.Cool

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Tyler vid was awesome. So this is how he does it.. :)
How can I be this guy all the time. (feeling like I am the one with authority)
I dont think Manwhore or Jeffy have to do this shit.
I think it comes down to knowing you are the one making shit happen and having full trust in yourself.

Basically, going up these "two hills" is a way to get ENTITLEMENT. which lets you express yourself naturally.
So the more reference experience you have, the more entitled you start out at the night / the higher is your "baseline".
and then of course macro-momentum from being social all the time.

right?

P.S. isnt this what alex calls "relaxed arousal" / "walking through the world with ease
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