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An Amazing Motivational Story of How Not Jerking has Changed My Life With Women - A Masturbation/Sex Addicts Perspective
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#41

champ

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PEOPLE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING AN ADDICT AND STILL HAVING SELF-CONTROL.  Zippy had the combination of having a really high sex drive and by chance finding his bros stash of porn at a very young age and thus becoming addicted to porn and masturbation. If he would have had "game" at  an early age he might have become Evil stiffler or a teen dad or both he he. I think high sex drive will motivate you to get alot of sex.

As far as girls now chasing him down. I think this is very true because I think girl's recognize a promiscuous guy or a guy with a high sex drive when they see one. I think girl's can sniff out a high sex drive. Ofcourse girls chasing you down just like the 5 minute f-closes isn't something that happens all the time OR MAYBE IT DOES???? ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT HUH teeth  I think a lot of girl's love the thought of a guy that is able to fuck them like crazy everyday. And you combine Zippy's PUA knowledge, him "feeling so great that he was able to beat an addiction", him actually going out and using his knowledge and a high sex drive and you have a combination of a natural right there in my opinion that some girls will chase down.

I would always tell my mom and my sister that alot of times girls that heard or "noticed" I  was promiscuous would throw themselves at me when I was very wasted. I've felt like "the girl that got taken advantage of while drunk" many times. They would roll their eyes at me and tell me things about girls.  I was antisocial all my life who else do I turn to with questions. God bless them tounge LOL! OFCOURSE I'M NOT LIKE THAT ANYMORE AND SEE IT DIFFERENTLY NOW. IT'S JUST "HUMAN FEMALE NATURE" DURRRRR!!! IT'S ALL GOOD!!! Remember I went from being top 3 if not #1 smartest kids at every school with only a couple sex partners and never going out. All I cared about was getting the best grades. I went from that to having my own place and partying with hot girls. I hope you guys can understand how much of a trip that was for me and my "super nerd mind". LOL! I had the reputation of being "promiscuous" not too long ago and I think that probably made alot of girls comfortable throwing themselves on my lap combined with some alpha male qualities and "value" that I had. A lot of girls have told me that sometimes they just wanna "hit it and quit it" too. A girl once told me " when I broke up with my boyfriend I went clubbing to get dick". 

I think a natural as defined in our PUA community is more accurately a "sex addict with game".  In a thread Brad said " For an actual results side of it, I'd say a guy in his mid 20s-early 30s with about 100 girls under his belt without knowing about pick up would be the baseline for a natural. But as you said, it's a stupid label, and everyone's definition is going to be different. "

This is a great post by Zippy. I remember the great one Mystery said "stop masturbating and see what it does to your game".I think this is a great post that will help and motivate masturbation/Porn addicts to use that high sex drive tom improve their "game"/ lives and use that high sex drive on real girls LOL! Like everything else in life i fyou think it's affecting you try it and see how it affects your life/ "sucess with women".  Good luck everyone!
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#42

champ

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I agree just like some people easily get addicted to cocaine and some people can do it and it won't affect them negatively all their lives. Just like some people like my great grandpa can smoke all his life and live to be 93. I forgot his actual age and he is still alive and smoking and playing cards LOL GO GREAT GRANPA!! He also had 10 kids thumbs up Quitting porn. Pffft! Piece of cake!
Drama wrote:
I'm starting to think some guys just weren't genetically designed to masturbate. I've never had a problem with doing it excessively, but I still do once in a while. The more I have sex, the more I do it though. I get so fucking horny when I'm hooking up with a couple different girls each week. 

I have enough self-control to not let it become a problem. I'm still trying to figure out wehre this shit came from. 2 years ago nobody bitched about having jerk off issues, and now guys all try to relate it to runing their life.
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#43
zippykremlin

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champ wrote:
PEOPLE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING AN ADDICT AND STILL HAVING SELF-CONTROL.  Zippy had the combination of having a really high sex drive and by chance finding his bros stash of porn at a very young age and thus becoming addicted to porn and masturbation. If he would have had "game" at  an early age he might have become Evil stiffler or a teen dad or both he he. I think high sex drive will motivate you to get alot of sex.

As far as girls now chasing him down. I think this is very true because I think girl's recognize a promiscuous guy or a guy with a high sex drive when they see one. I think girl's can sniff out a high sex drive. Ofcourse girls chasing you down just like the 5 minute f-closes isn't something that happens all the time OR MAYBE IT DOES???? ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT HUH teeth  I think a lot of girl's love the thought of a guy that is able to fuck them like crazy everyday. And you combine Zippy's PUA knowledge, him "feeling so great that he was able to beat an addiction", him actually going out and using his knowledge and a high sex drive and you have a combination of a natural right there in my opinion that some girls will chase down.

I would always tell my mom and my sister that alot of times girls that heard or "noticed" I  was promiscuous would throw themselves at me when I was very wasted. I've felt like "the girl that got taken advantage of while drunk" many times. They would roll their eyes at me and tell me things about girls.  I was antisocial all my life who else do I turn to with questions. God bless them tounge LOL! OFCOURSE I'M NOT LIKE THAT ANYMORE AND SEE IT DIFFERENTLY NOW. IT'S JUST "HUMAN FEMALE NATURE" DURRRRR!!! IT'S ALL GOOD!!! Remember I went from being top 3 if not #1 smartest kids at every school with only a couple sex partners and never going out. All I cared about was getting the best grades. I went from that to having my own place and partying with hot girls. I hope you guys can understand how much of a trip that was for me and my "super nerd mind". LOL! I had the reputation of being "promiscuous" not too long ago and I think that probably made alot of girls comfortable throwing themselves on my lap combined with some alpha male qualities and "value" that I had. A lot of girls have told me that sometimes they just wanna "hit it and quit it" too. A girl once told me " when I broke up with my boyfriend I went clubbing to get dick". 

I think a natural as defined in our PUA community is more accurately a "sex addict with game".  In a thread Brad said " For an actual results side of it, I'd say a guy in his mid 20s-early 30s with about 100 girls under his belt without knowing about pick up would be the baseline for a natural. But as you said, it's a stupid label, and everyone's definition is going to be different. "

This is a great post by Zippy. I remember the great one Mystery said "stop masturbating and see what it does to your game".I think this is a great post that will help and motivate masturbation/Porn addicts to use that high sex drive tom improve their "game"/ lives and use that high sex drive on real girls LOL! Like everything else in life i fyou think it's affecting you try it and see how it affects your life/ "sucess with women".  Good luck everyone!


exactly
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#44
zippykremlin

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Don corleon wrote:
  I went through two other books and working my way through roger love's vocal program. 
What is Roger Loves vocal program? Sounds awesome.
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Tyler

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Here's a vid on the "sexual intent" topic that relates to this...



I think Zippy is benefitting from this.

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#46
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I know that video that you / Owen did and have watched it numerous times to overlearn the concept of "freedom from outcome"; as we all know intent plus freedom from outcome are the two crutial elements to a solid pick-up/ getting attraction.

You, /Owen was most articulate defining freedom from out come in that awsome video, repleat with that analagy of the victoria secret model, and the typical guys mindset. which is intent coupled with an avoidance of rejection, seeking approval, or avoiding emarrasment;. Pure intent is- just UMMMM-look at that bitch's ass, I gonna give to her good, hard and sweet and she gonna love it-without any worry of valadation, approval or anything else. As a corrollary to that thought, "Pure Intent",  every time I ve seen the video-I ve wondered- how is pure intent  manifested, logistically and within the boundaries of reasonably socially acceptable behavior??  I 'm sure it's mostly in the subtext-not words. Or is pure intent just subtext:? What does it look like in the approach? After listening to the idea of pure intent defiend it conjures up the idea of beasting without any opener or comfort. 

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#47

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Sounds really cool, but I don't understand the sex with the twins. First of all incest is quite a large leap for a woman to take, so that makes it harder to believe. Plus you said that you weren't orgasming so how did it happen? Unless you were just saying that you weren't masturbating. Cos this is the internet I guess you can be telling the truth or lying, and you have all the time in the world to make up any answer so it kind of sucks we'll never really know, because it is quite the statement to say you've abstained(?) and at the same time had sex with twins, that's quite hard to believe.
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#48
zippykremlin

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I explicitly said that I only abstained from masturbating and watching porn and that I cannot abstain from having sex, just not gonna happen. Also, the two girls never touched each other.
I didn't really post about it to convince people that I'm awesome on the internet btw lol. I'm too busy feeling awesome to need to worry about looking good lol.
I posted it for the people who could benifit, and that goes for this post as well.
I don't have to sit here and think of a response lol. The shit happens, I just tell it to you. Go in field have some adventures, crazy shit happens all the time!

I try as hard as i can to abstain from having sex though. Before I go out I'm like well, I'm not worried about not having sex because it will just help this other process going on.
But then inevitably, I end up having sex. The last girl I was with told me that she just wants to fuck me whenever SHE wants and that turned me the hell on.

Girls turn me on... That video Tyler posted above ^ I would say is exaclty how I feel. I see the girl, I'm like fuck yeah, hey girl what's up? Mostly day game too, so I'll just say some intense shit calm as hell.
Just a slight intensity in my voice, she knows I'm not lying or bluffing. I'll just say "There's something about you I can't resist, come here" full eye contact, full honesty.
A little push in there like "no I promised myself I wouldn't go far with any girls, I can't do this" then "Fuck it I can't resist" pull in.
I'm excited thinking about it just talking about it right now... Good thing I'm doing some day game tomorrow gonna be fun.

It's funny that you say sex with twins is a large leap for women to take, sometimes, I really feel like this with alot of things they do. But then shit happens.
I know I can't be the only one around here having crazy crazy shit happening to them when they go out. Regardless of if you masturbate or not.

Final note, I also realize that even though Im on the incline right now and I'm using the events in my life to help boost me forward, I also realize that it's extremely important not to only use these crazy events to pump your state.
I use every tool I have to keep myself happy. I realize that I'm responsible for my own happyness, these events that happen are just bonuses.
If I'm not getting things done, and going out and having things happen, then I'm out working on them, not posting here on the forum.
When I come here I learn.

I remember I was speculating about why women fake smile and what that means and shit. It's something that's been on my mind for years actually, and I thought I had it all figured out after testing different things in field.
THEN I came to the forum only to see Tyler respond with "Doesn't matter everything is an IOI" That statement changed my entire game.
Key is, I didn't sit there like "Oh goly I'm not sure if that's really true blah blah" I went out and found out for myself!
I can't say go find out if you can fuck twins, I dunno how often that occurs, but shit, I know something close or similar has to occur, too much crazy shit happens all the time for it not to.
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Also, I want to clarify something. I used the word sex addict, which has a negative connotation to it. As if it's a problem lol.
I enjoy sex more than the average person, but, I don't really consider having lots of sex an actual problem.

Same with masturbating, I know I used this word 'addiction' but I actually don't take myself that seriously.
Using the word gives you the image that I'm beating myself up over the fact that I did it alot, and it's not true.

I want to make sure that I'm not comming across as telling you, you're a piece of shit if you masturbate alot or anything.
It's all good, unless, that's what you really need to change... idunno.
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#50
Adrenalyn

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 haha kremlin...you've inspired me. day1 herewegoooooooo
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