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I jerk off before I go out at night so when I find a girl I dont bust my nuts all over her in 2 minutes of penetration.
It has helped me game
And it will help yours too!
It has helped me game
And it will help yours too!
I jerk off before I go out at night so when I find a girl I dont bust my nuts all over her in 2 minutes of penetration.
It has helped me game
And it will help yours too!
I dont jerk off and I don't even ejaculate during sex and I can last as long as I want. You can have the best of both worlds. It has helped me game
And it will help yours too!
When you're having sex, focus on making her feel good and when you get close to coming, just stop and slow down. Then pretty soon, that 2 min gap gets longer and longer.
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PEOPLE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING AN ADDICT AND STILL HAVING SELF-CONTROL. Zippy had the combination of having a really high sex drive and by chance finding his bros stash of porn at a very young age and thus becoming addicted to porn and masturbation. If he would have had "game" at an early age he might have become Evil stiffler or a teen dad or both he he. I think high sex drive will motivate you to get alot of sex.
As far as girls now chasing him down. I think this is very true because I think girl's recognize a promiscuous guy or a guy with a high sex drive when they see one. I think girl's can sniff out a high sex drive. Ofcourse girls chasing you down just like the 5 minute f-closes isn't something that happens all the time OR MAYBE IT DOES???? ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT HUH
I think a lot of girl's love the thought of a guy that is able to fuck them like crazy everyday. And you combine Zippy's PUA knowledge, him "feeling so great that he was able to beat an addiction", him actually going out and using his knowledge and a high sex drive and you have a combination of a natural right there in my opinion that some girls will chase down.
I would always tell my mom and my sister that alot of times girls that heard or "noticed" I was promiscuous would throw themselves at me when I was very wasted. I've felt like "the girl that got taken advantage of while drunk" many times. They would roll their eyes at me and tell me things about girls. I was antisocial all my life who else do I turn to with questions. God bless them
LOL! OFCOURSE I'M NOT LIKE THAT ANYMORE AND SEE IT DIFFERENTLY NOW. IT'S JUST "HUMAN FEMALE NATURE" DURRRRR!!! IT'S ALL GOOD!!! Remember I went from being top 3 if not #1 smartest kids at every school with only a couple sex partners and never going out. All I cared about was getting the best grades. I went from that to having my own place and partying with hot girls. I hope you guys can understand how much of a trip that was for me and my "super nerd mind". LOL! I had the reputation of being "promiscuous" not too long ago and I think that probably made alot of girls comfortable throwing themselves on my lap combined with some alpha male qualities and "value" that I had. A lot of girls have told me that sometimes they just wanna "hit it and quit it" too. A girl once told me " when I broke up with my boyfriend I went clubbing to get dick".
I think a natural as defined in our PUA community is more accurately a "sex addict with game". In a thread Brad said " For an actual results side of it, I'd say a guy in his mid 20s-early 30s with about 100 girls under his belt without knowing about pick up would be the baseline for a natural. But as you said, it's a stupid label, and everyone's definition is going to be different. "
This is a great post by Zippy. I remember the great one Mystery said "stop masturbating and see what it does to your game".I think this is a great post that will help and motivate masturbation/Porn addicts to use that high sex drive tom improve their "game"/ lives and use that high sex drive on real girls LOL! Like everything else in life i fyou think it's affecting you try it and see how it affects your life/ "sucess with women". Good luck everyone!
As far as girls now chasing him down. I think this is very true because I think girl's recognize a promiscuous guy or a guy with a high sex drive when they see one. I think girl's can sniff out a high sex drive. Ofcourse girls chasing you down just like the 5 minute f-closes isn't something that happens all the time OR MAYBE IT DOES???? ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT HUH
I think a lot of girl's love the thought of a guy that is able to fuck them like crazy everyday. And you combine Zippy's PUA knowledge, him "feeling so great that he was able to beat an addiction", him actually going out and using his knowledge and a high sex drive and you have a combination of a natural right there in my opinion that some girls will chase down.I would always tell my mom and my sister that alot of times girls that heard or "noticed" I was promiscuous would throw themselves at me when I was very wasted. I've felt like "the girl that got taken advantage of while drunk" many times. They would roll their eyes at me and tell me things about girls. I was antisocial all my life who else do I turn to with questions. God bless them
LOL! OFCOURSE I'M NOT LIKE THAT ANYMORE AND SEE IT DIFFERENTLY NOW. IT'S JUST "HUMAN FEMALE NATURE" DURRRRR!!! IT'S ALL GOOD!!! Remember I went from being top 3 if not #1 smartest kids at every school with only a couple sex partners and never going out. All I cared about was getting the best grades. I went from that to having my own place and partying with hot girls. I hope you guys can understand how much of a trip that was for me and my "super nerd mind". LOL! I had the reputation of being "promiscuous" not too long ago and I think that probably made alot of girls comfortable throwing themselves on my lap combined with some alpha male qualities and "value" that I had. A lot of girls have told me that sometimes they just wanna "hit it and quit it" too. A girl once told me " when I broke up with my boyfriend I went clubbing to get dick". I think a natural as defined in our PUA community is more accurately a "sex addict with game". In a thread Brad said " For an actual results side of it, I'd say a guy in his mid 20s-early 30s with about 100 girls under his belt without knowing about pick up would be the baseline for a natural. But as you said, it's a stupid label, and everyone's definition is going to be different. "
This is a great post by Zippy. I remember the great one Mystery said "stop masturbating and see what it does to your game".I think this is a great post that will help and motivate masturbation/Porn addicts to use that high sex drive tom improve their "game"/ lives and use that high sex drive on real girls LOL! Like everything else in life i fyou think it's affecting you try it and see how it affects your life/ "sucess with women". Good luck everyone!
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"No one can be told what the matrix is you have to see it for yourself.....There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path."
"It is not enough to know YOU MUST DO" -Bruce Lee ; "I do and I understand"- Confuscious (Got that from Jeffy show hehe)
"Every sentence written or spoken,action, everything in the universe can be a rabbit hole to master" Me
"Don't take this too serious or be serious out there. It can work against you.GO OUT TO CLUBS,PARTIES,ETC. Relax, have fun, have "sucess with women".Trust in the process.Trust in the time you put in. 'Be positive always'. Focus on "the positive" and you will learn faster. Obviously the more time you put in the better and faster the learning and result will be.Trust in the knowledge you're aplying because the 'RSD/PUA knowledge' is probably the 'best truth' we have today.The process is fun and everlasting." I think this is true
"A woman can feel a similar powerful emotional and physical response that's similar to the one we feel when we see an attractive woman.....A woman can feel that in response to something....Okay instead of trying to logically convince a woman to feel attracted.They must 'trigger it'...'Personality' is the primary way that attraction is 'triggered inside of women' " David D! Best of wishes to you sir wherever U R.
"Never put any girl on a pedestal no matter what anyone else thinks. Don't 'be' , 'think' and 'feel' like ' they ' ( 'chodes' ) do. Be 'comfortable' with them around you because you 'know why they are like that.' Never be in that ' 'chode' headspace' "
"Always have Abundance mentality. 1.Alot of girls will always like you. The more you meet the more will like you.Always have freedom from outcome 2. You can have the exact same great connection with many many girls. There is nothing special about any girl and connection you made with her. Fuck and forget "everything" about society,social conditioning,songs,media,movies that go against abundance mentality"
"Never-attach-too-much-meaning to interactions with girls for example if you like a girl always go for her phone number" ; "MOVEMENT IS LIFE" RSDNathan
"Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.After enlightenment,chop wood and carry water." Ancient Eastern Adage
PROCESS!PROCESS! "Build it as well" ; "You're already living the "dreamlife". Some of you just don't realize it" I think this is true.
"Everything is a learning experience"
"The guys that get humor. Learned it from books" Jeffty AKA JLAIX
"It is not enough to know YOU MUST DO" -Bruce Lee ; "I do and I understand"- Confuscious (Got that from Jeffy show hehe)
"Every sentence written or spoken,action, everything in the universe can be a rabbit hole to master" Me
"Don't take this too serious or be serious out there. It can work against you.GO OUT TO CLUBS,PARTIES,ETC. Relax, have fun, have "sucess with women".Trust in the process.Trust in the time you put in. 'Be positive always'. Focus on "the positive" and you will learn faster. Obviously the more time you put in the better and faster the learning and result will be.Trust in the knowledge you're aplying because the 'RSD/PUA knowledge' is probably the 'best truth' we have today.The process is fun and everlasting
." I think this is true "A woman can feel a similar powerful emotional and physical response that's similar to the one we feel when we see an attractive woman.....A woman can feel that in response to something....Okay instead of trying to logically convince a woman to feel attracted.They must 'trigger it'...'Personality' is the primary way that attraction is 'triggered inside of women' " David D! Best of wishes to you sir wherever U R.
"Never put any girl on a pedestal no matter what anyone else thinks. Don't 'be' , 'think' and 'feel' like ' they ' ( 'chodes' ) do. Be 'comfortable' with them around you because you 'know why they are like that.' Never be in that ' 'chode' headspace' "
"Always have Abundance mentality. 1.Alot of girls will always like you. The more you meet the more will like you.Always have freedom from outcome 2. You can have the exact same great connection with many many girls. There is nothing special about any girl and connection you made with her. Fuck and forget "everything" about society,social conditioning,songs,media,movies that go against abundance mentality"
"Never-attach-too-much-meaning to interactions with girls for example if you like a girl always go for her phone number" ; "MOVEMENT IS LIFE" RSDNathan
"Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.After enlightenment,chop wood and carry water." Ancient Eastern Adage
PROCESS!PROCESS! "Build it as well" ; "You're already living the "dreamlife". Some of you just don't realize it" I think this is true.
"Everything is a learning experience"
"The guys that get humor. Learned it from books" Jeffty AKA JLAIX
I agree just like some people easily get addicted to cocaine and some people can do it and it won't affect them negatively all their lives. Just like some people like my great grandpa can smoke all his life and live to be 93. I forgot his actual age and he is still alive and smoking and playing cards LOL GO GREAT GRANPA!! He also had 10 kids 
Quitting porn. Pffft! Piece of cake!
Quitting porn. Pffft! Piece of cake!I'm starting to think some guys just weren't genetically designed to masturbate. I've never had a problem with doing it excessively, but I still do once in a while. The more I have sex, the more I do it though. I get so fucking horny when I'm hooking up with a couple different girls each week.
I have enough self-control to not let it become a problem. I'm still trying to figure out wehre this shit came from. 2 years ago nobody bitched about having jerk off issues, and now guys all try to relate it to runing their life.
I have enough self-control to not let it become a problem. I'm still trying to figure out wehre this shit came from. 2 years ago nobody bitched about having jerk off issues, and now guys all try to relate it to runing their life.
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"No one can be told what the matrix is you have to see it for yourself.....There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path."
"It is not enough to know YOU MUST DO" -Bruce Lee ; "I do and I understand"- Confuscious (Got that from Jeffy show hehe)
"Every sentence written or spoken,action, everything in the universe can be a rabbit hole to master" Me
"Don't take this too serious or be serious out there. It can work against you.GO OUT TO CLUBS,PARTIES,ETC. Relax, have fun, have "sucess with women".Trust in the process.Trust in the time you put in. 'Be positive always'. Focus on "the positive" and you will learn faster. Obviously the more time you put in the better and faster the learning and result will be.Trust in the knowledge you're aplying because the 'RSD/PUA knowledge' is probably the 'best truth' we have today.The process is fun and everlasting." I think this is true
"A woman can feel a similar powerful emotional and physical response that's similar to the one we feel when we see an attractive woman.....A woman can feel that in response to something....Okay instead of trying to logically convince a woman to feel attracted.They must 'trigger it'...'Personality' is the primary way that attraction is 'triggered inside of women' " David D! Best of wishes to you sir wherever U R.
"Never put any girl on a pedestal no matter what anyone else thinks. Don't 'be' , 'think' and 'feel' like ' they ' ( 'chodes' ) do. Be 'comfortable' with them around you because you 'know why they are like that.' Never be in that ' 'chode' headspace' "
"Always have Abundance mentality. 1.Alot of girls will always like you. The more you meet the more will like you.Always have freedom from outcome 2. You can have the exact same great connection with many many girls. There is nothing special about any girl and connection you made with her. Fuck and forget "everything" about society,social conditioning,songs,media,movies that go against abundance mentality"
"Never-attach-too-much-meaning to interactions with girls for example if you like a girl always go for her phone number" ; "MOVEMENT IS LIFE" RSDNathan
"Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.After enlightenment,chop wood and carry water." Ancient Eastern Adage
PROCESS!PROCESS! "Build it as well" ; "You're already living the "dreamlife". Some of you just don't realize it" I think this is true.
"Everything is a learning experience"
"The guys that get humor. Learned it from books" Jeffty AKA JLAIX
"It is not enough to know YOU MUST DO" -Bruce Lee ; "I do and I understand"- Confuscious (Got that from Jeffy show hehe)
"Every sentence written or spoken,action, everything in the universe can be a rabbit hole to master" Me
"Don't take this too serious or be serious out there. It can work against you.GO OUT TO CLUBS,PARTIES,ETC. Relax, have fun, have "sucess with women".Trust in the process.Trust in the time you put in. 'Be positive always'. Focus on "the positive" and you will learn faster. Obviously the more time you put in the better and faster the learning and result will be.Trust in the knowledge you're aplying because the 'RSD/PUA knowledge' is probably the 'best truth' we have today.The process is fun and everlasting
." I think this is true "A woman can feel a similar powerful emotional and physical response that's similar to the one we feel when we see an attractive woman.....A woman can feel that in response to something....Okay instead of trying to logically convince a woman to feel attracted.They must 'trigger it'...'Personality' is the primary way that attraction is 'triggered inside of women' " David D! Best of wishes to you sir wherever U R.
"Never put any girl on a pedestal no matter what anyone else thinks. Don't 'be' , 'think' and 'feel' like ' they ' ( 'chodes' ) do. Be 'comfortable' with them around you because you 'know why they are like that.' Never be in that ' 'chode' headspace' "
"Always have Abundance mentality. 1.Alot of girls will always like you. The more you meet the more will like you.Always have freedom from outcome 2. You can have the exact same great connection with many many girls. There is nothing special about any girl and connection you made with her. Fuck and forget "everything" about society,social conditioning,songs,media,movies that go against abundance mentality"
"Never-attach-too-much-meaning to interactions with girls for example if you like a girl always go for her phone number" ; "MOVEMENT IS LIFE" RSDNathan
"Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.After enlightenment,chop wood and carry water." Ancient Eastern Adage
PROCESS!PROCESS! "Build it as well" ; "You're already living the "dreamlife". Some of you just don't realize it" I think this is true.
"Everything is a learning experience"
"The guys that get humor. Learned it from books" Jeffty AKA JLAIX
PEOPLE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING AN ADDICT AND STILL HAVING SELF-CONTROL. Zippy had the combination of having a really high sex drive and by chance finding his bros stash of porn at a very young age and thus becoming addicted to porn and masturbation. If he would have had "game" at an early age he might have become Evil stiffler or a teen dad or both he he. I think high sex drive will motivate you to get alot of sex.
As far as girls now chasing him down. I think this is very true because I think girl's recognize a promiscuous guy or a guy with a high sex drive when they see one. I think girl's can sniff out a high sex drive. Ofcourse girls chasing you down just like the 5 minute f-closes isn't something that happens all the time OR MAYBE IT DOES???? ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT HUH I think a lot of girl's love the thought of a guy that is able to fuck them like crazy everyday. And you combine Zippy's PUA knowledge, him "feeling so great that he was able to beat an addiction", him actually going out and using his knowledge and a high sex drive and you have a combination of a natural right there in my opinion that some girls will chase down.
I would always tell my mom and my sister that alot of times girls that heard or "noticed" I was promiscuous would throw themselves at me when I was very wasted. I've felt like "the girl that got taken advantage of while drunk" many times. They would roll their eyes at me and tell me things about girls. I was antisocial all my life who else do I turn to with questions. God bless them LOL! OFCOURSE I'M NOT LIKE THAT ANYMORE AND SEE IT DIFFERENTLY NOW. IT'S JUST "HUMAN FEMALE NATURE" DURRRRR!!! IT'S ALL GOOD!!! Remember I went from being top 3 if not #1 smartest kids at every school with only a couple sex partners and never going out. All I cared about was getting the best grades. I went from that to having my own place and partying with hot girls. I hope you guys can understand how much of a trip that was for me and my "super nerd mind". LOL! I had the reputation of being "promiscuous" not too long ago and I think that probably made alot of girls comfortable throwing themselves on my lap combined with some alpha male qualities and "value" that I had. A lot of girls have told me that sometimes they just wanna "hit it and quit it" too. A girl once told me " when I broke up with my boyfriend I went clubbing to get dick".
I think a natural as defined in our PUA community is more accurately a "sex addict with game". In a thread Brad said " For an actual results side of it, I'd say a guy in his mid 20s-early 30s with about 100 girls under his belt without knowing about pick up would be the baseline for a natural. But as you said, it's a stupid label, and everyone's definition is going to be different. "
This is a great post by Zippy. I remember the great one Mystery said "stop masturbating and see what it does to your game".I think this is a great post that will help and motivate masturbation/Porn addicts to use that high sex drive tom improve their "game"/ lives and use that high sex drive on real girls LOL! Like everything else in life i fyou think it's affecting you try it and see how it affects your life/ "sucess with women". Good luck everyone!
As far as girls now chasing him down. I think this is very true because I think girl's recognize a promiscuous guy or a guy with a high sex drive when they see one. I think girl's can sniff out a high sex drive. Ofcourse girls chasing you down just like the 5 minute f-closes isn't something that happens all the time OR MAYBE IT DOES???? ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT HUH
I think a lot of girl's love the thought of a guy that is able to fuck them like crazy everyday. And you combine Zippy's PUA knowledge, him "feeling so great that he was able to beat an addiction", him actually going out and using his knowledge and a high sex drive and you have a combination of a natural right there in my opinion that some girls will chase down.I would always tell my mom and my sister that alot of times girls that heard or "noticed" I was promiscuous would throw themselves at me when I was very wasted. I've felt like "the girl that got taken advantage of while drunk" many times. They would roll their eyes at me and tell me things about girls. I was antisocial all my life who else do I turn to with questions. God bless them
LOL! OFCOURSE I'M NOT LIKE THAT ANYMORE AND SEE IT DIFFERENTLY NOW. IT'S JUST "HUMAN FEMALE NATURE" DURRRRR!!! IT'S ALL GOOD!!! Remember I went from being top 3 if not #1 smartest kids at every school with only a couple sex partners and never going out. All I cared about was getting the best grades. I went from that to having my own place and partying with hot girls. I hope you guys can understand how much of a trip that was for me and my "super nerd mind". LOL! I had the reputation of being "promiscuous" not too long ago and I think that probably made alot of girls comfortable throwing themselves on my lap combined with some alpha male qualities and "value" that I had. A lot of girls have told me that sometimes they just wanna "hit it and quit it" too. A girl once told me " when I broke up with my boyfriend I went clubbing to get dick". I think a natural as defined in our PUA community is more accurately a "sex addict with game". In a thread Brad said " For an actual results side of it, I'd say a guy in his mid 20s-early 30s with about 100 girls under his belt without knowing about pick up would be the baseline for a natural. But as you said, it's a stupid label, and everyone's definition is going to be different. "
This is a great post by Zippy. I remember the great one Mystery said "stop masturbating and see what it does to your game".I think this is a great post that will help and motivate masturbation/Porn addicts to use that high sex drive tom improve their "game"/ lives and use that high sex drive on real girls LOL! Like everything else in life i fyou think it's affecting you try it and see how it affects your life/ "sucess with women". Good luck everyone!
exactly
I went through two other books and working my way through roger love's vocal program.
What is Roger Loves vocal program? Sounds awesome. 
Here's a vid on the "sexual intent" topic that relates to this...
I think Zippy is benefitting from this.
Tyler
I think Zippy is benefitting from this.
Tyler
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I know that video that you / Owen did and have watched it numerous times to overlearn the concept of "freedom from outcome"; as we all know intent plus freedom from outcome are the two crutial elements to a solid pick-up/ getting attraction.
You, /Owen was most articulate defining freedom from out come in that awsome video, repleat with that analagy of the victoria secret model, and the typical guys mindset. which is intent coupled with an avoidance of rejection, seeking approval, or avoiding emarrasment;. Pure intent is- just UMMMM-look at that bitch's ass, I gonna give to her good, hard and sweet and she gonna love it-without any worry of valadation, approval or anything else. As a corrollary to that thought, "Pure Intent", every time I ve seen the video-I ve wondered- how is pure intent manifested, logistically and within the boundaries of reasonably socially acceptable behavior?? I 'm sure it's mostly in the subtext-not words. Or is pure intent just subtext:? What does it look like in the approach? After listening to the idea of pure intent defiend it conjures up the idea of beasting without any opener or comfort.
Bruce
You, /Owen was most articulate defining freedom from out come in that awsome video, repleat with that analagy of the victoria secret model, and the typical guys mindset. which is intent coupled with an avoidance of rejection, seeking approval, or avoiding emarrasment;. Pure intent is- just UMMMM-look at that bitch's ass, I gonna give to her good, hard and sweet and she gonna love it-without any worry of valadation, approval or anything else. As a corrollary to that thought, "Pure Intent", every time I ve seen the video-I ve wondered- how is pure intent manifested, logistically and within the boundaries of reasonably socially acceptable behavior?? I 'm sure it's mostly in the subtext-not words. Or is pure intent just subtext:? What does it look like in the approach? After listening to the idea of pure intent defiend it conjures up the idea of beasting without any opener or comfort.
Bruce
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Sounds really cool, but I don't understand the sex with the twins. First of all incest is quite a large leap for a woman to take, so that makes it harder to believe. Plus you said that you weren't orgasming so how did it happen? Unless you were just saying that you weren't masturbating. Cos this is the internet I guess you can be telling the truth or lying, and you have all the time in the world to make up any answer so it kind of sucks we'll never really know, because it is quite the statement to say you've abstained(?) and at the same time had sex with twins, that's quite hard to believe.
Manwhore
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I think this has lots to do with the belif rather than not masturbating.
eg, OP believes that not masturbating will make girls chase him and the belief comes true.
2. Evilpickupmaster have a belief rubbing a condom will bring girls and the belief comes true..
3, Same with Manwhore's t shirt.
How to sext !!
Look at manwhore. The guy is so ugly that I think he's face was on fire and they put out the fire using a baseball bet.
But he has the `energy`.
-rsdn
I know what you are.
Say it.
Manwhore.
Are you afraid?
No.
You shouldn’t of said that.
I'm the world's best predator, aren't I? Everything about me invites you in - my voice, my face, even my smell. As if I need any of that! As if you could outrun me. As if you could fight me off.
Manwhore