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Something to be aware of when watching Free Tour Videos
First off I wanna thank the RSD guys that keep putting up the free video content from the Free Tour etc
The one thing I think newbies and intermediate guys need to be aware of is when Tyler talks about and acts out examples of crazy approaches where he makes out girls right away/fingers them/says crazy shit, etc
When you watch the Free Tour vids and see him give these examples, it may seem to most that he is just throwing himself blindly at these girls and having magic happen. Not only that, but it may be interpreted that those approaches are ideal and any less than that means you really need to work on your game. It can also be interpreted that fast escalation needs to happen ALL THE TIME.
What they don't always explain is that there are windows of opportunity that the advanced guys can see and take advantage of. Theres the massive, MASSIVE amount of approach experience that allows them to do these things. They develope a "feel" for these things and it doesn't happen all the time.
I understand its difficult to really teach when just talking to a bunch of guys in a room but I think newbie or intermediate level guys may get the wrong idea and just think they start doing really difficult approaches and getting make-outs and instant bathroom sex consistantly.
We need to be aware because diving head first into crazy approaches without enough experience, understanding or calibration can get you in trouble. Grabbing random chicks in the bar can get you punched, smacked, confronted by a pyscho boyfriend or banned from your favorite club. Maybe you enjoy that type of thing, then by all means go for it but if you're a bit more reserved and want a more intelligent approach, I would do a more step by step process and get comfortable with one aspect of cold approach before moving on to more advanced stuff the RSD guys do. You gotta be careful these days, I mean the wrong girl and a overly sexual approach can result in being accused of sexual assault.
The other solutions would be taking a bootcamp to achieve a better understanding of how these real life approaches play out and what really happens that allows these crazy fast make-outs, finger banging in the bathroom type stuff. I think even Hotseat is a good idea to attend because you can see whats happening, how the girl is behaving, Tylers vibe, tonality and body language.
This shit takes a lot of time and practice and when RSD talks of rapid meet to sex scenerios, we need to keep in mind that this does not happen with every girl and don't expect to be a pimp every night. Yes you need to push your confort zone but I don't endorse throwing yourself at random girls tongue hanging out, grabbing them. Drunk dudes do that when the night is near the end. Be charming, playful, sexual and most of all...patient! Thats my opinion anyways
Good post. My opinion is if you are going out somewhat just somewhat consistantly you'll understand what he is talking about and won't be a retard about it. Ie this shit happens when the right moment presents itself it's not something you really do ALL the time in every set, still it'd be funny to see a guy post a thread "I Tried to finger every set I went in just like Tyler said and I got arrested last night".The one thing I think newbies and intermediate guys need to be aware of is when Tyler talks about and acts out examples of crazy approaches where he makes out girls right away/fingers them/says crazy shit, etc
When you watch the Free Tour vids and see him give these examples, it may seem to most that he is just throwing himself blindly at these girls and having magic happen. Not only that, but it may be interpreted that those approaches are ideal and any less than that means you really need to work on your game. It can also be interpreted that fast escalation needs to happen ALL THE TIME.
What they don't always explain is that there are windows of opportunity that the advanced guys can see and take advantage of. Theres the massive, MASSIVE amount of approach experience that allows them to do these things. They develope a "feel" for these things and it doesn't happen all the time.
I understand its difficult to really teach when just talking to a bunch of guys in a room but I think newbie or intermediate level guys may get the wrong idea and just think they start doing really difficult approaches and getting make-outs and instant bathroom sex consistantly.
We need to be aware because diving head first into crazy approaches without enough experience, understanding or calibration can get you in trouble. Grabbing random chicks in the bar can get you punched, smacked, confronted by a pyscho boyfriend or banned from your favorite club. Maybe you enjoy that type of thing, then by all means go for it but if you're a bit more reserved and want a more intelligent approach, I would do a more step by step process and get comfortable with one aspect of cold approach before moving on to more advanced stuff the RSD guys do. You gotta be careful these days, I mean the wrong girl and a overly sexual approach can result in being accused of sexual assault.
The other solutions would be taking a bootcamp to achieve a better understanding of how these real life approaches play out and what really happens that allows these crazy fast make-outs, finger banging in the bathroom type stuff. I think even Hotseat is a good idea to attend because you can see whats happening, how the girl is behaving, Tylers vibe, tonality and body language.
This shit takes a lot of time and practice and when RSD talks of rapid meet to sex scenerios, we need to keep in mind that this does not happen with every girl and don't expect to be a pimp every night. Yes you need to push your confort zone but I don't endorse throwing yourself at random girls tongue hanging out, grabbing them. Drunk dudes do that when the night is near the end. Be charming, playful, sexual and most of all...patient! Thats my opinion anyways
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Yup! And good read. :)
As a teacher I run into the conflict between 1) releasing new material that isn't repetitious, and 2) not confusing newbies.
I've explained similarly to what you're saying but not everyone is going to see that immediately. Moreover on bootcamp last week a newbie student watched me close a girl in the club bathroom within 5 minutes of meeting her, then we went to the next club and he pulled a girl out of it who liked him a lot.
When she wouldn't IMMEDIATELY HAVE SEX WITH HIM he became despondent because based on my demonstration he thought the way the game worked was that you approach a girl, makeout, and fuck her immediately. Rather than realizing that this is something that happens every so often.
Not only that, but only a very lame pickup artist has no other game than fast lays. It's equally lame not to see these opportunities and not know how to capitalize on them, but it's not what an entire skillset is based upon.
These are the types of distinctions I'm trying to re-remember for the newbie site. SO MANY FRIGGIN' WAYS TO FUCKUP A CLUELESS NEWBIE. I used to remember all this shit but it's been so many years since I taught it. Pretty boring to go back and teach it all again but I'm doing it one last time for the site.
Tyler
As a teacher I run into the conflict between 1) releasing new material that isn't repetitious, and 2) not confusing newbies.
I've explained similarly to what you're saying but not everyone is going to see that immediately. Moreover on bootcamp last week a newbie student watched me close a girl in the club bathroom within 5 minutes of meeting her, then we went to the next club and he pulled a girl out of it who liked him a lot.
When she wouldn't IMMEDIATELY HAVE SEX WITH HIM he became despondent because based on my demonstration he thought the way the game worked was that you approach a girl, makeout, and fuck her immediately. Rather than realizing that this is something that happens every so often.
Not only that, but only a very lame pickup artist has no other game than fast lays. It's equally lame not to see these opportunities and not know how to capitalize on them, but it's not what an entire skillset is based upon.
These are the types of distinctions I'm trying to re-remember for the newbie site. SO MANY FRIGGIN' WAYS TO FUCKUP A CLUELESS NEWBIE. I used to remember all this shit but it's been so many years since I taught it. Pretty boring to go back and teach it all again but I'm doing it one last time for the site.
Tyler
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or let´s put it in simple words: Not only if you´re a newbie or intermediate... you have to use common sense.
Just like a guitar newbie can´t turn into Satriani or Gilbert or Django Reinhardt over-night. Remember that unlike the game, learning is logical.
Just like a guitar newbie can´t turn into Satriani or Gilbert or Django Reinhardt over-night. Remember that unlike the game, learning is logical.
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09/20/2011 Looking back now, it first felt like epic winnage and like there´s no way I could lose. Then I fucked up but I still don´t know if it could have tourned out differently if I just showed more persitance... did I really fuck up? Was it correct? Was it me or her? Me or them? Later the thrill was gone... but oh crap! Now it´s back! I walked the wrong path for too long and now there´s only desert sand where the right paths change with every wind gust. How the hell can you walk a path that changes in the wrong direction as soon as you´re sure that this particular path is the right one? Frustration rises with every restart starting off with a false start. But frustration hardens the sand and eventually keep me on the right path.
11/06/2011 The thrill is gone. I finally got out of it "broken beat and scarred". Now it´s time for another restart...
Now it´s time for action, no more bullshit, no more relaxin´ - Don´t ever second guess yourself, get that monkey off your back, keep your smile, stay up on your move, LIVE FREE[/]
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The one thing I think newbies and intermediate guys need to be aware of is when Tyler talks about and acts out examples of crazy approaches where he makes out girls right away/fingers them/says crazy shit, etc
When you watch the Free Tour vids and see him give these examples, it may seem to most that he is just throwing himself blindly at these girls and having magic happen. Not only that, but it may be interpreted that those approaches are ideal and any less than that means you really need to work on your game. It can also be interpreted that fast escalation needs to happen ALL THE TIME.
What they don't always explain is that there are windows of opportunity that the advanced guys can see and take advantage of. Theres the massive, MASSIVE amount of approach experience that allows them to do these things. They develope a "feel" for these things and it doesn't happen all the time.
I understand its difficult to really teach when just talking to a bunch of guys in a room but I think newbie or intermediate level guys may get the wrong idea and just think they start doing really difficult approaches and getting make-outs and instant bathroom sex consistantly.
We need to be aware because diving head first into crazy approaches without enough experience, understanding or calibration can get you in trouble. Grabbing random chicks in the bar can get you punched, smacked, confronted by a pyscho boyfriend or banned from your favorite club. Maybe you enjoy that type of thing, then by all means go for it but if you're a bit more reserved and want a more intelligent approach, I would do a more step by step process and get comfortable with one aspect of cold approach before moving on to more advanced stuff the RSD guys do. You gotta be careful these days, I mean the wrong girl and a overly sexual approach can result in being accused of sexual assault.
The other solutions would be taking a bootcamp to achieve a better understanding of how these real life approaches play out and what really happens that allows these crazy fast make-outs, finger banging in the bathroom type stuff. I think even Hotseat is a good idea to attend because you can see whats happening, how the girl is behaving, Tylers vibe, tonality and body language.
This shit takes a lot of time and practice and when RSD talks of rapid meet to sex scenerios, we need to keep in mind that this does not happen with every girl and don't expect to be a pimp every night. Yes you need to push your confort zone but I don't endorse throwing yourself at random girls tongue hanging out, grabbing them. Drunk dudes do that when the night is near the end. Be charming, playful, sexual and most of all...patient! Thats my opinion anyways
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