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May 18th, 2013
Tall Muscular White Guy Game vs. Short Ethnic Guy Game
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Mace123

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Need some honest input on this from the real playas on this forum, no KJs.

I imagine most of the real players on this forum - 50+ notches - meet a certain physical archetype. You’re a tall, muscular white guy. To an extent you've got to admit that girls are already considering fucking you before you spit your game. Much of your game is FAG game – fuck-up avoidance game. ie. don’t act like a dork, don’t say anything stupid, screen for bangability, manage logistics - and you're hitting it.

Now take your current self . Take your style of game. Now put yourself in the body of a 5'7" Indian guy, no accent.  Now spit the same game. Would you still be pulling the same tail?

What advice is there for guys who don’t meet these physical attributes? I’m talking short, skinny Asian/Indian guys. Whereas tall, muscular white guys already register as neutral-to-positive before you start running your game, short ethnic guys start from a huge deficit position. These guys don’t even register as a sexual presence in the radar of most women.

One should admit that you already meet the physical parameters of what girls consider “fuck-worthy” (tall, muscular, white). For guys like you, game = raw physicality + not saying anything stupid. The girl has already done the choosing to a degree.

But a short, skinny ethnic guy running this style of game would get nowhere. To get laid nearly as much as a tall muscular white guy, he’d need incredible verbal skills, and turn on the wit, charm, charisma, DHVs, negs, cocky-funny, understand evolutionary psychology and master the more technical aspects of game.

Basically, he needs to compensate for his lack of "physical value" with "social value", while simultaneously manipulating a woman's psychological and emotional state to consider him "fuck-worthy". This style of game requires a certain finesse that a typical frat boy wouldn't comprehend.

Now if a short, skinny Asian/Indian guy is pulling blonde co-eds, he’s REALLY got tight game. But IMO his game is more contingent on showing value and manipulating a woman’s emotional state (ala. Mystery Method) to get her into bed as he lacks the raw “physical value” that other guys can coast on.

What advice is there for short and ethnic but otherwise Westernized guys to pull hot tail? 
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Cupcakes

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oh gawd not another Indian dude blaming his freakin' race for lack of success. And your height? I'm similar. Unless you're a dwart it's irrelevant.
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Beast Von Gandi

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Well...here's what I have to say about you. I read some of your old posts. Growing up in a conservative family fucks you up pretty bad.....you already have a lot of inner guilt and shame about sex---that's where you're coming from about tall muscular overcompensating FAGGOTS being manly. Basically you're not giving yourself permission to be manly. And you're not giving yourself permission to be sexy.

What I'd strongly urge you to do is to start working on yourself as a man...maybe it'll take a year or whatever of serious work. Figure out what that means to you..this is a slow process with many realizations.

Look at Tyler dude, he isn't very tall and frankly he's a scrawny man. He's very handsome as far as girls can tell. He pulls hawt ass. Ryan is also about 5'7 and scrawny...extremely good game.

Girl's are never gonna give you validation and permission. You gotta figure out your own entitlement. Entitlement game is the *hardest* to develop..cause there's really so much work you gotta put in on yourself, but it is really the most rewarding.
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roadrally

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So I am a skinny Chinese guy 130 lb with turbo metabolism.
Honestly I think game is the same. Sure some girls might instantly blow you off for your looks and you probably have to work harder for results, but if you want it just get at it. No more I look like xxx excuse. It might even be true but your excuses are not going to improve your results.
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kodobeast

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 sup with all these indian bros being insecure
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Beast Von Gandi

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conservative familes and chode fathers
kodobeast wrote:
 sup with all these indian bros being insecure
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JohnnyCanada

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I'm white but scrawny and I have  stolen girls from ripped juice-head dudes before by just simply behaving in a way that was irrestistable.
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RSDNationer

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No, Asians/Indians don't need to worry about this sort of thing because we have arranged marriages. 

TALL WHITE MAN HAVE NOTHING ON THAT.
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Tyler

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Ahahahahaahh I love this shit.

Man what you Indian/Asian guys need to go is go out 7 nights a week and start getting laid so you can build some confidence.

If you're gonna sit at home theorizing shit then obviously one of the dumb thoeries that's meander it's way through your brain is "I'm an Assiiiiiaaaaaannnnn....WOooOOooOOO CHIIINEEEESSSEE CHING CHANG CHOOOONNGGGGG!!!"

But if you go out constantly you WILL start pulling and getting laid.  And then these silly thoughts will STOP.

You wanna know the truth of all the haters of the PUA community who say it doesn't work?  These guys are either 1) total losers, or more likely 2) they DID NOT GO OUT.

Nobody -- point blank period -- listens to the damned advice and goes out every night and doesn't start getting laid.  You would have to be completely retarded.  Just go out every damned night and start dating/fucking some girls and these insecurities will go away.

You know the funniest part about your post?  You're using your INTELLIGENCE to come up with these excuses for yourself.  Like that bit about "fuck up avoidance" actually sounds kinda legit when you hear it.  It's got me thinking like "Is that true??"  Then I realize "No it is not true...This man does not go out and he comes up with this stuff in his mother's basement."

:)

Let's be honest here...

You HAVE approach anxiety, don't you?  You seek the girls' approval at times, don't you?  You are reaction seeking, aren't you?  You CARE if the girls like you, don't you?

I bet you don't know how to start a rhythm to your night and get in the zone reliably and predictably.  I bet you don't escalate on windows or even notice them a lot of the time.  I bet you lack a proper balance between intent and freedom from outcome.  I bet you walk away when the girls are ready to fuck you because you don't know what to do.

Any CHING CHANG CHONG can figure this shit out, which is why tons of my short Asian and Indian friends have sex with and date attractive women.  Figure the shit out and then come back with a new theory. ;)

Tyler
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I'm scrawny and an inch shorter than you and I've banged 30+ girls since the beginning of last year. Most were taller than me HAHA

However I do have pale vampireish skin. That must be my secret to having ho's in different area codes :D
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Mace123 wrote:
Need some honest input on this from the real playas on this forum, no KJs.

I imagine most of the real players on this forum - 50+ notches - meet a certain physical archetype. You’re a tall, muscular white guy. To an extent you've got to admit that girls are already considering fucking you before you spit your game. Much of your game is FAG game – fuck-up avoidance game. ie. don’t act like a dork, don’t say anything stupid, screen for bangability, manage logistics - and you're hitting it.

Now take your current self . Take your style of game. Now put yourself in the body of a 5'7" Indian guy, no accent.  Now spit the same game. Would you still be pulling the same tail?

What advice is there for guys who don’t meet these physical attributes? I’m talking short, skinny Asian/Indian guys. Whereas tall, muscular white guys already register as neutral-to-positive before you start running your game, short ethnic guys start from a huge deficit position. These guys don’t even register as a sexual presence in the radar of most women.

One should admit that you already meet the physical parameters of what girls consider “fuck-worthy” (tall, muscular, white). For guys like you, game = raw physicality + not saying anything stupid. The girl has already done the choosing to a degree.

But a short, skinny ethnic guy running this style of game would get nowhere. To get laid nearly as much as a tall muscular white guy, he’d need incredible verbal skills, and turn on the wit, charm, charisma, DHVs, negs, cocky-funny, understand evolutionary psychology and master the more technical aspects of game.

Basically, he needs to compensate for his lack of "physical value" with "social value", while simultaneously manipulating a woman's psychological and emotional state to consider him "fuck-worthy". This style of game requires a certain finesse that a typical frat boy wouldn't comprehend.

Now if a short, skinny Asian/Indian guy is pulling blonde co-eds, he’s REALLY got tight game. But IMO his game is more contingent on showing value and manipulating a woman’s emotional state (ala. Mystery Method) to get her into bed as he lacks the raw “physical value” that other guys can coast on.

What advice is there for short and ethnic but otherwise Westernized guys to pull hot tail? 
NO KJ PLEASE!!! ahahah, YOU ARE ONE OF THEM!!....All this bullshit that you're putting through your mind is useless. Tyler said it well!! Go out consistently, Tweak you game, and you WILL get laid. Simple shit. Have confidence in yourself. If you don't have confidence in yourself, who will? Your neighbour? Obviously not!!

I'm 5'7, Ripped, Brown Skin, Intelligent....and guess what? I DON'T GIVE A FUCK, what the girl thinks of me when I am talking to her....I talk to Her and not the inverse!! Have fun with this...meeting girls is simply: FUN, SEXLAXED(sexual&relaxed) . 

P.S: If you so want to be muscular, HIT THE GYM you piece of **** rather than sitting on your skinny ass and complaining!!! Anyone can get a body, it just boils down to 3 main things: Eating Right, Training Intensely and Resting.

Optimus.
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