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Honestly, I think yourbrainonporn actually may be taking things too far like Kuz suggests. The core idea is solid though.
And that core idea is that porn is a superstimulus that fucks with your reward system and may lead to a diminished motivation to go after what you want (sex with hot girls).
It is one in many factors and will certainly not in and of itself fix your game like another guy already stated.
Aside from that, you just gotta look at it for what it (porn, masterbation) is, it's a pure waste of time and you do it for the short-term payoff of a rush of chemicals. It doesn't have the depth to it that good sex with an attractive girl has.
That's the only reason why I advocate this, I don't need no science for that. (although the suggested link between porn --> addiction thru reward system may turn out to be valid when research will be conducted)
The simple 'quit PMO --> more horny and intent' experience that I've had whenever I've quit this stuff is enough for me.
Furthermore, the sugar --> dopamine fuck up is probably totally legit as science in rats has already confirmed sugar to be a potentially addictive substance. My experience in transitioning from a standard high-carb diet to a paleo/primal diet was the same: withdrawal symptoms and blunted state and motivation levels that restored themselves over time.
And that core idea is that porn is a superstimulus that fucks with your reward system and may lead to a diminished motivation to go after what you want (sex with hot girls).
It is one in many factors and will certainly not in and of itself fix your game like another guy already stated.
Aside from that, you just gotta look at it for what it (porn, masterbation) is, it's a pure waste of time and you do it for the short-term payoff of a rush of chemicals. It doesn't have the depth to it that good sex with an attractive girl has.
That's the only reason why I advocate this, I don't need no science for that. (although the suggested link between porn --> addiction thru reward system may turn out to be valid when research will be conducted)
The simple 'quit PMO --> more horny and intent' experience that I've had whenever I've quit this stuff is enough for me.
Furthermore, the sugar --> dopamine fuck up is probably totally legit as science in rats has already confirmed sugar to be a potentially addictive substance. My experience in transitioning from a standard high-carb diet to a paleo/primal diet was the same: withdrawal symptoms and blunted state and motivation levels that restored themselves over time.
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I like the keep it simple aspect. Get healthy. Use common sense.
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My whole thing is i wanna fuck girls not jerk off.Ive been jerking since like 7th grade.I use jerking it as a quick fix when i really should be out trying to bang some chicks.I didnt even read the website and i dont know if jerking or porn messes your brain up but i do know when i jerk a lot im not motivated to go try and bang girls which is why i stopped.Im proud of myself because for the first time in my life i went thirty days without spanking it.
The guy i know that approaches more women and fucks more hot girls than anyone i know once told me he never jerks off because his imagination isnt that good.This is a guy that is below average in looks.Not the famous"average looking" that everyone in the community seems to be.Is their a connection? Maybe so.
The guy i know that approaches more women and fucks more hot girls than anyone i know once told me he never jerks off because his imagination isnt that good.This is a guy that is below average in looks.Not the famous"average looking" that everyone in the community seems to be.Is their a connection? Maybe so.
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checkout SEAN Stephenson...He got more chicks then most of u in this post ever get. Do u think he jerks off everyday? i dont think he's even able to jerk off
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Holy Buda...
Even if you jerk it like its 2012, its still real fucking unnatural to wank it to a computer screen, cool you dont care about stopping, nice, but defending porn wanking like its not only healthy but neccesary, its beyond rediculous.
Peace.
Even if you jerk it like its 2012, its still real fucking unnatural to wank it to a computer screen, cool you dont care about stopping, nice, but defending porn wanking like its not only healthy but neccesary, its beyond rediculous.
Peace.
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I'm surprised that people are trying to argue the chemistry or whatever rather than looking at reported results. Tyler, Jeffy, and Drama are doing fine without banning the hand. Manwhore reports great results from quitting. Obviously a moderate amount of wanking isn't going to prevent success, but it looks to me like quitting for a while is worth the experiment. I quit for about two weeks and improved over that time, started in the last week and continued to observe better interactions, and now I'm going to quit again .
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you are not gonna be a ladies man by not masterbating (maybe if you dont do it for like 2 years idunno). anyway I got 6 more days to go for 30 days without wanking. All I can say is you get intese desire for girls. for me when I see a girl with short skirt /legs I go nuts , If this was caveman times I'd knock her on the head and drag her to the cave and fucker her brains out. OK.
the desire for girls is the main thing I experiance
eg. sometimes I go daygaming in the morning and walk till I can't walk no more and come home..take a rest ..but I get dreams about those juicy pussies walking up and down the boulevard (got the journey referance?? ** wink) Here I am back at the mall although technically even I can't walk no more...
ps. you have to keep your mind in check because you can easily get depressed when you don't get any girls and you are horny as fuck.
the desire for girls is the main thing I experiance
eg. sometimes I go daygaming in the morning and walk till I can't walk no more and come home..take a rest ..but I get dreams about those juicy pussies walking up and down the boulevard (got the journey referance?? ** wink) Here I am back at the mall although technically even I can't walk no more...
ps. you have to keep your mind in check because you can easily get depressed when you don't get any girls and you are horny as fuck.
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I'm surprised that people are trying to argue the chemistry or whatever rather than looking at reported results. Tyler, Jeffy, and Drama are doing fine without banning the hand. Manwhore reports great results from quitting. Obviously a moderate amount of wanking isn't going to prevent success, but it looks to me like quitting for a while is worth the experiment. I quit for about two weeks and improved over that time, started in the last week and continued to observe better interactions, and now I'm going to quit again .
There really hasn't been any serious discussion about what any of this means in the big picture in this thread. If there was, it would be looking into the long-term, brain health, social dynamics, compulsion and a million other things. It would generate discussion and a CURIOSITY about the big value this information represents.
A good example would be the repeated observation about how "horny" not compulsvely masturbating makes a guy after 5 days, 2 weeka etc. That's after the info talks explicitly how long term the real change in brain chemistry takes. Very very few people would ever want to expand it to sexual compulsion or addiction, and a bigger picture of a hyper-stimulated deeply angry "little boy culture" we're a part of.
People don't want to know...for obvious reasons. The only serious "jerking" debate ( for the most part) that this kind of info will generate ia knee jerk analysis.
Still. Great that it's out now. Because long-term...dots are going to connect. Probably really long term. Like with most major stuff. This info is major major stuff.
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Im finding it hard to achieve 30 days, I keep getting layed and dont know if I should restart or not? Is today day 1 or day 31?
Just sayin...
Just sayin...
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"As our awesomeness grows, I find it difficult to acknowledge things that arent awesome"
Matt.
"Im so hot"
Goran~
"Oh my god, you look like something out of a magazine"
Moderately attractive chick stroking my ego.
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Just to not get completely off topic. It's good to get into benefits of re-wiring. All the rest is just distraction and posturing. It helps only to confuse, engage conflict and bury any meaningful discussion.
So here's a great article on the site which helps people understand the BENEFITS of dropping JUST ABOUT ANY compulsion ( in my opinion). Any excess that a guy has got involved in always is related to the reward system of the brain.
Once the brain has been hijacked, it will do, say or try anything to protect the behaviour or substance that is stimulating the reward system. The important thing about this info is that the end point attitude is PLAY TO WIN. The hijacked brain is PLAYING TO LOSE.
Charlie Sheen called it "bi-winning". And he can't see that the deal was about both winning and losing, and that to win...he had to pick winning.
Denial is always about "bi-winning". Here's the great article about playing to win. BENEFITS. Not arguments. Winning.
http://yourbrainonporn.com/rewire-your-brain-using-ocd-neuroscience
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