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June 19th, 2013
NASTY Attack Situation...Almost. How Do You Disarm a Fight?
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#21
Voeoe

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"I am going to rape you when Im done with you" should work for de-escalation.
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I think it was a mistake to ignore him. There is a time and place to just ignore, but often it's better to just look them straight in the eye and adress the situation at hand. I learned my lesson earlier this year when I ignored an agressive AMOG and got jumped from behind.

I've had a few other situations when things could have turned ugly but got defused because I refused to give any agression back and instead just adressed them firmly but respectfully.
For instance, standing in a busy square downtown after closing time, a guy approaches and says "hey man, got any coke?"
and I kind of brush him off and reply "no". He goes "what the fuck man, why don't you have any coke you cunt". It's obvious that he is just a lost soul in pain. No need to get angry. I look him straight in eye this time, shrug my shoulders and say "I wish I could help, good luck man".
He calms down and walks off. Just looking people in the eye firmly and talking to them like a friend is so damn powerful. Drunk, angry guys are pinging for agression or any form of negativity towards them to give them a reason to fight. If you stay unaffected by their agression they'll often call down. You LEAD him emotionally with your state of calmness. When things escalate too far then yes you might need to use violence, but I believe your situation didn't had to escalate if you just adressed him early on. Ignoring him probably made him think you were arrogant and pissed him off. Sure, it was pretty arrogant of him to ask for a ride home but I don't think that warrants being rude. Just tell him no upfront the same way you would deny a request from a drunk friend.
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#23

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I suggest mma because you'll learn boxing  and grappling moves. I would never suggest taking a fight to the ground in a club enviroment because you might get your head smashed by "the homies" LOL. So boxing and kickboxing and grappling/clinching moves like the hip throws,judo throws, and wrestling to get aguys hands off you if it comes to that,or crash him into the concrete will be good. I really suggest staying on your feet.  If you practice boxing you'll be able to knock a lot of guys down that have never trained in their lives no matter who they are alot of the time with 2 or 3 punches to the chin/head. And if the fight does somehow go to the ground you'll have the skills to get back up or smash the guy but I suggest getting back up and by that ime security and others will have interfered.  You'l learn that in MMA and it will make you feel stronger,more confident,healthier,etc,etc. AND BELIEVE ME CHICKS ABSOLUTELY LOVE THAT SHIT. Ofcourse you wont be able to do all that in one class or 2 or 10 or 20. Well maybe after 20 classes youll get good or at least be able to handle the token "club tough guys". It's just like this PUA thing it takes practice to be competent.

You'll also give off a different vibe because of martial arts guaranteed. You'll be able to walk around like a badass like Jeffy does and like he talked about not looking like a victim and thus avoiding that situation because you never want to get into a situation like that because someone might have a gun or shank. Good Luck and focus your time, "consciousness", don't be lazy on this issue and I'm sure your reality will improve noticeably. Good Luck and take care.

P.S Once you learn some mma I suggest to never stand squared up to a stranger in a confrontation be it verbal or whatever. Stand at like at a 35 degree angle to him. So alittle more square than a boxer. So you can pull of any move faster and more effectively. But disguise your stance because if you make it too obvious youre in a stance the other person might freak out and feel like you're about to attack.  Also remember to keep your chin low because if your chin is all up in the air you might get kncked out. But remember only with a lot of practice similar to PUA will you reap benefits from MMA or any martial art. I'm not saying dedicate your life to Martial Arts but I would suggests to learn to be competent at it.
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Jeffy nails it. People don't fuck with me in situations like that, usually it's the other way around where people are afraid of me and I smile at them to let them know I'm not a serial killer and I'm just walking by.

Your opponent is gaguing how weak you are and if you're going to eat his shit.

First off, I wouldn't walk to my car. That's the best way to get trapped. I'd quickly walk around the block and lose him, or if you're really scared, go inside a public place like a restaurant or back to the bar.

Don't entertain his bullshit. Don't even respond to him. Personally, I'd just stare him down and see what he's trying to do. If he's talking shit to you, just laugh it off and walk away. Don't show any weakness. Stay quiet, calm and alert and get on your way.

"GIVE ME A RIDE BITCH"
Yeah man that's cool, have a good night.
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If he tries to assult you when you're getting in your car, stab him in the neck with your keys and RUN.
jlaix wrote:
 you are likely giving off a weak/prey vibe. That dude would NEVER say this shit to me or most guys I know because they know we will not be a pushover.
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#25

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First of all, that site is good.

Second of all, whatever martial art you take MAKE SURE THEY SPAR AND TRAIN THE DRILLS AGAINST RESISTING OPPONENTS.  I put that in caps because it's the most important thing.

So many martial art schools teach these cool 10 hit counter moves to an opponent's punch.  You feel like such a bad ass.  But look at how they train them?  The attacker throws a punch that won't even hit you in the first place and then leaves his arm extended while you perform your counter attack.

Real attackers retract their punches right away.

Real attackers move around and try to hurt you, they don't let you do cool counters on them.

This is why there are so many stories of Tae Kwon Do/Karate/Kungfu/whatever black belts getting beaten up by street thugs and boxers.  The black belt guy knows all these cool moves but they don't work against resisting opponents.

The reason MMA wins in UFC all the time is partially because the techniques are better, but also because MMA trains against resisting opponents ALL THE TIME.

Eye jabs are cool, but can you poke the eyes out of an attacker who is moving around and trying to hurt you?  Have a friend put on a hockey helmet with the clear face shield and try it.

Small joint manipulations are cool, but can you do them during a fight when you have an adrenaline dump and you've lost fine motor coordination?  No.

Same thing with cool fancy kung fu hand movements.  When you're shaking like crazy, and you will be, you won't make them work.

Any technique that requires reaching out to block an opponent's strike is probably not really a good idea in a real fight (although they work fine in the gym).

Real fighting doesn't look like kung fu movies, even if one of the guys knows kung fu.

If you find the right school you will learn to competently defend yourself.  If not, you'll get a false sense of self-confidence.

Train against resisting opponents.  That doesn't mean you have to beat each other up, but it means they have to resist.  Their punches should hit you if you don't block or dodge.  They shouldn't leave their arms extended after they punch you during training.  And they should be moving around trying to prevent you from hitting them back.  THAT is realistic training, not the nonsense that you see in McDojos.
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Shoot em in they dick

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I am all for handeling situatoin peacfully but the point where he put his arm around your neck and said he was gana punch you should have been your cute to kick him in the nuts. 
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 ps. people continously tell me that I should more fight then I do. I never do because my frame is stronger. I might be scared shitless inside but I stay ice all outside. If you look solid enough, no one will put dare to put their arms around you and say his gana hurt you.
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#29

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martial arts don't help in street fights

Counter punching or sucker punching > 

MMA is great, but if u have someone in a rear naked n his boy rolls up n stomps u, then what?

just wait for him to take his eyes off you and hit him w a good strait to the chin or a hook to the temple = game over

or if ur fast u can let him throw a punch n slip it or roll out of the way & hit him across the jaw..

u dont need amazing technique u just gotta have the element of surprise & know how to punch..

Worst case scenario he has a good chin n u should know how to push forward without getting hit that much which is more about having balls & keeping ur hands up then technique.
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imnashitfool wrote:

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imnashitfool wrote:
if u have someone in a rear naked n his boy rolls up n stomps u, then what?
WTF?
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