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May 21st, 2013
Disturbin' London (Road to Mastery)
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Andre~

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31st March



Fuck plateaus. That shit only exists in your mind.

So tonight it was me and Pringles. Very good night.

At first i didn't realise it until prings told me but i was a bit tense, probably cause i wanted to impress him compared to how i was last time we gamed with each other. I let this anxiety go ASAP and chilled.

Went outside to the beautiful garden area under the guise of getting some smokes. I see a cute 2set come into my view, eye 'em up, they go next to some old woman who says "no you can have them", so i dutifully adopt these two angels. I call prings over and it's cool to see how relaxed he is with them - i'm very good at social vibing now, not really fazed by how nervous the chicks are either cause they warm up to us. It was cool to have a wing tonight who's more charismatic than me in set; a year and half ago my ass would've been soooo stifled because of this.

We say goodbye, assuming we'll see em later, the chicks love us but we wanna game some other chicas.

It was weird opening sets tonight with pringles; it felt really relaxing, and almost as if the chicks expected sexworthy dudes like us to roll up on them (ioi's were crazy tonight, no real 'blowouts').

I gave a cute blonde a lapdance after she stole my glasses. She enjoyed it, i started licking her neck and biting it. No makeout though, she was with her friends so an isolation was probably needed.

Nearly dragged some chick into the toilet, she liked me, but gave me the BF rejection before i tugged her into the gents.

Overall, it was a fun night process-oriented instead of results i'd say. I should've racked up a few numbers and pushed it a little harder in some sets, but i 'spose it was cause i was having too much fun with prings and didn't wanna chase after every skirt tonight. Tonight just seemed to be mostly about self-amusement - this is what keeps you in the game after you've plowed through a lot of hotties; just mucking about and treating the club like it's your playground. Which it is.
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Andre~

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April 2nd



Good. Fucking. Night with the boys. Pringles comes down again this time so i knew this night was gonna be tight.

Had a bit of trouble at the door at first, got in eventually, we chill and wait for people to turn up.

1 hot girl 2 hot girl, 3 hot girl, 4...there's tons flooding in tonight. I'm lovin it..

Kickstart the night with a warm up set - Prings has got some american indian chick all up on his dick; i got her fat friend with a cute face. Damn, they stalk us the whole night. Warm up gone wrong.

Clawing on the dancefloor - head upstairs, beast on a few chicas with Prings. Have some good physicality going on with two girls; a tall dark haired hottie who reminds me of Xena tells me she's anti-everything. I ask her why do i always fall for the girls who are rebels without a cause, "you're james dean with a skirt on.." - she's loves that shit. Miscalibrate with my physicality a bit, it's kinda wobbly from here on and i don't number close.

Approach a norwegian blonde hottie. Could be a model maybe. She likes me, doesn't invest much though, then starts to break eye contact a little. Perhaps i should've isolated ASAP once it was going well.

I accidentally steal two of Tin's girls tonight - on the dancefloor i'm trying to makeout with another tall dark haired hottie. Then a girl with Tin (didn't know it was him) taps my arm. I go for the makeout lol she pulls back. Tin does the best AMOG and covers my mouth when i'm talking to a chick (use with caution)

Take a picture with some chick. Makeout. See a cutie on the dancefloor. Makeout. Although these 'makeouts' seem a bit forced tonight. Girls gave a lot of token resistance but were sooo horny.

Black girl squeezes my ass. Oh god.

Get a nice woody from some cute brunette by the bar. I tell her she's being taxed with a "shitty makeout" if she wants to get through. She finds a free spot, i dry hump her for a bit and lick her soft skin. Yum.

Key lesson to take from tonight: Be super positive the whole night. Chicks are horny, go in hard but remember to be that fun guy letting them into your reality. Lead, lead, lead...i can't stress enough how important this shit is.
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Andre~

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Buddhagames gave me key advice on the subject of text game and congruity on Manwhore's forum. I thought i would put it up here:

The one area of that text which I did think was a little submissive on your part was the whole:

Her: Hit me with another joke pal!
Me: Don't worry i will later

Like, just because basically right THERE she CREATED the frame and you stepped right into it.

1. This frame consists of you being her "Pal" who she's going to vent to and tell stories to about all the dudes she's fucked
2. This frame consists of her saying fetch and you running to pick up the ball she threw, only to come running back to give it to her, waiting for the nice pet on the head as you obediently sit there on your hind legs, longingly looking up at her.

Manwhore has a great video I watched and one thing I took from it combined with some experience I've had is the following:

A strong frame, doesn't necesarily have to be something that is artifically created. For example, she has no clue about "Frames" etc... But she still created a strong frame here which you unwittingly stepped right into. Rather, a strong frame is something which naturally flows forth from you and everything you say and do, when you are living your life to YOUR standards. This is because you become less stifled and are able to open up new areas of your personality which you never recognized before. When you start to LIVE congruently, you may start to find that the strongest frame you can create is simply YOUR frame. The frame of being you. And when this happens, girls can't help but fall into that frame, cause it's completely grounded, it isn't fake, you don't have to TRY and mantain it.

Anyway, I'd be much less concerned with the no-reply and much MORE concerned with THAT.

If this is the entirety of your text convo with her, I'd say that when you met her in person, you didn't show much intent, if any. So this could actually just be showing some gaps in your in-person game that then translate to text. That being said, you can make up for a lot through text, so while you will probably want to make sure, in the next couple months, to really focus on adding some intent/masculinity to your in-person game, you also can help your chances by not accepting the frame that she's assuming.

Hope this helps. I've noticed a lot of similar stuff in my own game recently, so I really know what you're going through.
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pringles

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Andre~ wrote:
April 2nd



Good. Fucking. Night with the boys. Pringles comes down again this time so i knew this night was gonna be tight.

Had a bit of trouble at the door at first, got in eventually, we chill and wait for people to turn up.

1 hot girl 2 hot girl, 3 hot girl, 4...there's tons flooding in tonight. I'm lovin it..

Kickstart the night with a warm up set - Prings has got some american indian chick all up on his dick; i got her fat friend with a cute face. Damn, they stalk us the whole night. Warm up gone wrong.

Clawing on the dancefloor - head upstairs, beast on a few chicas with Prings. Have some good physicality going on with two girls; a tall dark haired hottie who reminds me of Xena tells me she's anti-everything. I ask her why do i always fall for the girls who are rebels without a cause, "you're james dean with a skirt on.." - she's loves that shit. Miscalibrate with my physicality a bit, it's kinda wobbly from here on and i don't number close.

Approach a norwegian blonde hottie. Could be a model maybe. She likes me, doesn't invest much though, then starts to break eye contact a little. Perhaps i should've isolated ASAP once it was going well.

I accidentally steal two of Tin's girls tonight - on the dancefloor i'm trying to makeout with another tall dark haired hottie. Then a girl with Tin (didn't know it was him) taps my arm. I go for the makeout lol she pulls back. Tin does the best AMOG and covers my mouth when i'm talking to a chick (use with caution)

Take a picture with some chick. Makeout. See a cutie on the dancefloor. Makeout. Although these 'makeouts' seem a bit forced tonight. Girls gave a lot of token resistance but were sooo horny.

Black girl squeezes my ass. Oh god.

Get a nice woody from some cute brunette by the bar. I tell her she's being taxed with a "shitty makeout" if she wants to get through. She finds a free spot, i dry hump her for a bit and lick her soft skin. Yum.

Key lesson to take from tonight: Be super positive the whole night. Chicks are horny, go in hard but remember to be that fun guy letting them into your reality. Lead, lead, lead...i can't stress enough how important this shit is.
that night was fun...love getting back into the swing of things
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Andre~

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I'm hardly an addict, but i'm gonna pack in the porn for good.

Reading a Tony Robbins book at the moment, 'Awaken the Giant Within', and he says that before every 'final' decision you have to commit yourself to it, and have control over three things: What you will focus on, what the goal means to me, and what i should do to create my desired results.

So, to effectively kill my porn addiction (i do it once or twice a week), I will focus on my destiny of sexual abundance, "i will allow myself to have more sexual, open minded and fun women into my life".

I want to sharpen my 'intent' around beautiful women, feel invigorated and alive - total presence, and no chance of performance anxiety when i finally sleep with a bangin hottie from this shit. This is what my 'no fap' goal means to me.

What i will do to create my desired results is that i'll wash myself with cold water if i get the sensation to masturbate. Or ill step outside for some fresh air - from what i've learned from Tolle it's also important to focus on deep breathing, and show no resistance to this urge. Just be conscious over it, and let the urge to splurge subside.

- I'm commited to this goal, i want to give my best doing this game shit. Us players are athletes - we go to gym for this shit, read for this shit, make money for this shit, socialise with friends for this shit, and eat for this shit. Don't let any holes in your boat sink ya. If i do slip up i'll post it in this journal. So far it's been 5 days, it takes 4-5 months for a young guy to rewire his brain after a lifetime of masturbating (been chokin the chicken since 14).
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Andre~

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6th April Good Friday

Went to the usual Kensington club with the boys. It's Good Friday so we joke that all the hot girls are praying at church apologising for the sins they're about to commit on saturday instead of being out tonight.

Still, a few hotties in view, so something can be done here. Claw in one girl, she's uncomfortable with the claw but alas...it grows stronger. I'm chatting away, then let her go eventually. Was dirty talk needed at some point? I read Brad's post on someone's FR, and he feels that going sexual with your verbals is a sure way to communicate man-to-woman; so i want to sharpen my intent with more sexual teasing and necessary SOI loops like i've done in the past.

Not much talent out tonight, but i hit up another chick with the claw while she's with her friend at the bar. Amazingly chunky figure. She doesn't show much resistance to this shit, gives me the wide doe-eyed looks and laughs at my shit jokes. hmmm, her friend does the same. She refuses to let me isolate, her friends like me, and leave me with her for a bit. We're vibing, but i don't go in for the makeout. I lose her eventually and she drops the BF bomb on me. Peruvian (south american chicks in general) like a dominant man i think.

There were a couple other hotties who i should've approached but i chickened out. Bad, bad, bad...but there were some successes - i felt chill the whole night and battled through a nasty chest cough i've had for a while.
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Andre~

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April 7th



Check out a new club in central with the boyz. It has a really urban crowd - i'm used to posh places now ha.

Dance a little at the beginning of the night, just being loud and everythin.

Chris isolates a small blonde, her friend comes over. The friend's kinda hot, i jump in, apparently he fucked up. I console her - makeout, dance for a bit, i ask her if i can have some of her drink. She leaves.

I approaching some of the dimes of the club. I'm going in weak at times - gotta have full intent when i step up, and just spit game - verbals have got to have full passion and belief behind them.

Get brought to the VIP table by one of my promoter friends. I don't pimp it up, but i talk to a hottie with a big 'ol ass. I'm boring her, she leaves.

See her again later - my state's up after some quickfire approaches; pick her up for 2 mins, spinning her around, telling her we're running away together, she loves this. I take her number, she's going to some after party later; i think it's exclusive.

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I think we all underestimate how important social momentum is. We've associated pleasure with chilling out in the early stages of the night - after all, we see all the chodes doing the same thing, however they're rocketing into state quicker cause of alcohol. I don't have the advantage of 'liquid courage', so it should be like go go go with social momentum - 30 sec intervals at best, then i can chill out after like 5 sets. Easier said than done, but it's a sure way to feel that rush of energy, that 'whoosh' Tim talks about.
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Andre~

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April 11th

Decided to go out solo. Went central, the club i wanted to hit was closed so i haul my ass to this other club which turns out to be guestlist only...i was a bit chode, cause i never hit up the street sets. Never gonna let that happen again. Why? Otherwise i'm never gonna get good at this shit - it's my mission to go 100% balls to the wall with this motherfucker.

I get on the tube home, have a change of mind, call up my friend who i saw earlier who's at a house party.

Takes me a while to get there but i show up. The boys to girls ratio is atrocious - mostly people from high school and shit here, but they love my shit so i'm in goooood state. Before i know it there's this hot big boobed physics nerd chick groping me, then i recgonise she's Fran. I thought she had a BF or whatever but that shit became irrelevant when we started heavily flirting. I could tell people were a bit stunned by how i was just beasting on her, cause the "sorta" BF was at the party. We go outside, she grinds on my ass - i'm hard and bust a little precum. I was a bit cautious though, i like the BF but i was willing to fuck her - the BF's friends were around, i was able to block this out of my reality but didn't go as hard as i would have usually.

We go back into the kitchen - she wants my dick BAD and is bitching about some chode she's taken up with at Oxford uni. cool cool cool.

I'm scanning the place for logistics (can't go upstairs, there's vomit on the staircase - outside in the garden there was people who would see me. I'm such a fucking moron for not pulling her deeper into the secluded areas of the garden, "wait, i wanna see whats down there. BOOM" she would follow). We makeout, she's a bit shocked but is still with it. There's a toilet right in front of me, the doors wide open like heaven's gates....but i don't do it for some reason??? The BF comes, shouts my name - i'm ignoring him kinda and being unreactive. She's still groping me like mad. But by this time i've kinda blown it; gonna see if i can hit her up on facebook and fuck dat ass before she's back at uni.

Lessons:

- Explicit dirty talk. No more fucking around, i NEVER do this and i'm thinking it's fucking with my intent. I don't get shit tests these days cause girls can't vividly know what i'm about: a sexual threat who's here to rail them in the ass. I would've found any way to get the pull if i was clear with this hoe. shitttt, hindsight's a bitch.
- Approach machine...should've went in hardcore on some street sets earlier in the night. How else is what i've learned gonna get internalised?

VICTORY?

- I'm a fucking pimp in a social circle. I talk to everyone, bring the party, and the hoes love my icyness.
- I went out by myself. 80% of success is just showing up.
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Andre~

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April 12th



Was planning on going solo tonight but Tin wants to wing it so i'm down. Today i've done my visualisation technique which is pretty cool, just map out every last detail of how successful your night's gonna be - be realistic, but imagine your pimp self just owning it; overcoming shit tests, leading, spitting gold, etc. it's important to include all of the five senses for it to actually affect your nervous system while visualising - i popped a boner and felt the 'heart sink' you sometimes get after a rejection doing this =P

I'm fulfilling my promise from the night before - hitting up street sets. No "where are you guys going tonight BS", just no hesistation, instant physical and directness.

#1 - Spanish girl: roll up to her and her friend. Call them out on being Spanish, i notice a difference here, i'm being charismatic and loud like i would be in the club. Good. The girl with a pretty face and red heels tells me where she's from in Spain. You don't need a valid reason to reward them, so i just say that's awesome. Instantly hug her, pick her up, say i ain't gonna let her down until she makes out with me. No go. I'm smother her neck with kisses and leave her. State spikes up... (i probably should've pinned her against a war and started straddling her - girls love that shit)

#2 - French girl: I hone in on her, this approach is like 10 mins after the first one and she's standing in exactly the same spot as the spanish chick. I forgot what i said but my arms are around her neck, clawing her in. Pretty girl, nice bod. I say some direct shit like "i wanna make love to you", she pulls away a little. I pull her back, her friend ain't doing shit. She's starting to invest

Her: i have a question for you, do you know...(some inaudible french shit)
Me: Do i have a big dick? Yh.

She pulls back fully now, i laugh and go on my way. Should've pinned her against the war too.

~At the club...

My state feels great. I've definitely built lasting momentum for some of the night. Making some quick approaches as soon as i enter. Approach one short cutie with a skintight outfit and sexy body - is a little intimidated but i calibrate, she's going for a smoke, i say ill see her later.

A tall sexy dark haired chick is with a guy and a girl, she sits down for a bit. Hand of god - she smiles, tells me she can't dance with me cause her feet her. I say i'll give her a foot massage. So i start caressing her feet, getting a slight woody while i'm at it. She's like "this is sexual", i tell her "of course it is..."

I'm saying some other shit, just being awesome 'n all but it's stuff i always say, like she asks my name "Andre AKA black jesus". She's squeezing my hand and shit, comfortable with my presence obviously, i don't decide to go for makeout just yet, don't know why but i wanted to take my time. I want to get her dancing but she's tired. Give her a lap dance, her friends come back and find it funny. We exchange numbers - her friend looks seems to be staling out the interaction a bit by taking my girl's attention. I introduce myself, them shoot off to another club with Tin.

We come back, i beast hard on more chicks. I realised i don't have 10's, it feels unreal to me. But there's one who's close to that, i grip her arm, "hi i'm andre", apparently she doesn't wanna talk. I tell her ill grope her instead. See her later, she's smiling now when i claw her in, i try to isolate. NO MY FRIENDS! ughh.

Makeout with a 7, while her and her friend grind on me. Approach some mixed sets. Grind with more sexy ass foreign chicks, they're cockteasing bottle whores though.

I pussy out of going harder with my girl from earlier - should've isolated, i'm gonna do that without saying anything now - brush/lead.

Call it a night.

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Andre~

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April Friday the 13th

Nightmare on oxford street for these bitches...

I do some early street sets as soon as i leave the station - this is who i am now; a fucking scumbag who HAS to pimp. I see a cute fuckable chick who some chodes spoke to earlier. I go in hard, chill as ice, "YOU!". Handshake, she ain't comfortable with the sexual tension - lets go, bad eye contact, i call her out on her bad eye contact, she fixes up. She's polish, waning attention and has the bitch shield up - i plow, hook her attention by just staying cool but then she gets a phone call from her friend and bounces. SAY YOU'RE TALKING TO A HANDSOME BLACK MAN i yell after her.

Next girl is tall. Like 6'1 in heels - some chode physically cranes his neck to look at her. I'm interested. Spit game at her, she gives me the same raw deal as the Polish chick. Bad eye contact, she fixes up when i begin plowing and hooks when i call her out on being a punk chick cause of her earring. I hug her, pick her up, "MAKEOUT WITH ME" - no go, she laughs and runs away to her 'friend'.

A few blowouts - another cutie, a bit plain jane looking but she aight. Hand of God. YOU! She complies. I forgot what i tell her, she's enjoying it but wants to catch her cab. I say i want to jump in with her blah blah let her go, we're still yelling shit at each for a while then she goes. Later i see some asian chick in a 3set with a promoter dude, she looks good from behind - i whisk her arm up, surprise her then calibrate. I'm escalating while her 'girlfriend' is right in front of her. Oh well, i move on, wish the lesbo a good night.

Go to a bar, take a solid rejection and fuck up the fun for the girls just to be a dick - another street approach, girl looked good from far, not so much now. I plow, get a gay kiss on the cheek and then go.

Me and Tin bounce to the club - NO HOTTIES WHATSOEVER. The night drags on and i leave.

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- Gotta work on my dirty talk, i.e "i'm going to do despicable things from you, i just escaped from prison, all i can think of is buttsex. You down for the brown?"
- Be more illogical, just keep a deepan straight face.
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