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"Metamorphosis into a chick magnet"
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JFM

JFM

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It's amazing how all this is connected. All of the compulsions are compensations. Most of them are covering deep-seated pain that is denied. I've removed PMO ( the term used in www.yourbrainonporn.com) and after 7 weeks I realize that ALL the compulsions are doing the same thing.

It's about avoiding self.

Denial on this topic means NOT KNOWING. Porn, working 20 hours a day, obsession over a woman, excessive internet, alcohol, controlling for approval. WHATEVER. It's all about chemicals, hormones...how we feel.

How we FEEL (state) is everything with attracting and sexing women. And especially a longer term bond. If there's early big problems with a guy and he CAN'T face them (yet), he's going to be compulsive and he's not going to know (denial), until the prospect of LOSING something he's not prepared to lose comes up. Usually this is accompanied by PAIN bigger than the pleasure effect of the compulsion.

That's why the people that would consider looking at compulsion are EXCLUSIVELY in a place where denial is breaking. Anyone else would laugh off the concepts and,most especially, eliminate the "cause and effect" connections between the substance-activity and it's life-damaging consequences.

Food and sex are likely the top compulsion sources...it's all coming out now. And it's amazing to see how DEEP the denial on both these topics have been in my daily routine. Not fun to find out. I'm also on food now. Porn (as people are saying) just opened the door. But only if there is some obvious pain or something BIG to lose. Otherwise?

Denial.
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Goran~ wrote:

Sh00kOneZ wrote:
Im on day 7 and I've been pretty close to breaking. Im still watching porn. I try not to but I always find myself going back to it. But I need to be more disciplined and stop this shit.
Theres no point of doing it if you are still watching porn. its not the Masturbation thats causing the main problem its the porn, as your brain is constantly stimulated by pictures of naked women, your subconcious cannot tell the diference between real and fake thats why you get hungry or a sweets craving when you see a picture of delicious food, works the same with naked women, online you can see like 20 tabs of naked women on your browser in a minute, in real life you will only bang on average one girl in about 24 hours, for the majority of single men in the world its more like 3-4 girls a year. Watching porn makes your mind think you are seing 100s of women a week. Which fucks the brain up. Research is readily available on the subject... Cutting out masturbation but watching porn just makes you more frustrated and angry...
Good point about porn. In real life hot women, naked and willing to suck cock and eat cum are very rare. Belive me when I say this. I've come to a point to have such high standards that I hardly like one or two chicks in a club, not to mention I don't have enough experience and value to game them. My standars are superficially too high because of porn.

So don't watch porn and don't watch naked woman regardless how they look. It's not normal to see so many pussies in such a short time span. 
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I personally am not looking at "normal". I just want to be a sexworthy happy dude with a good life. One beef I have is the conclusion that the "information is bullshit". Maybe someone can have the opinion that it's "nonesense", for them. But to say it doesn't apply to the mass of people is delusional. Would they say the same about refined carbs? Nobody seems to argue that now, but look on the net. They still exist.
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JFM wrote:
It's also good to remember that ALL dopamine (or whatever interactive suite of neurotransmitters) adds up to my VIBE. You can't beat the house.

Ever seen how drug addicts and bad boys just out of jail get SUPER hot chicks? Still vibe though. Because underneath is the sick addict need for the girl to get the RUSH of risk. And him getting the rush of fuck and dump. BAD BOY.

Eventually all leading to the horrible down of getting abandoned. Then back to the same "fantasy bond". This is what true high-grade addiction is. Social dynamics.

The girl heads for the same loser with poor identity ( say a Tommy Lee ) and re-enacts her abandonment. Over and over again. The chode and the guy getting out of jail are the same! Except the chode worships Tommy Lee because at least he managed to fuck hot chicks!

"Something is better than nothing". Same shit chode universe uses to create couples. Talk about motivation to clean up brain chemistry. Still, it might only be a foundation. For Tommy Lee as an example. Katy Perry. Russel Brand. Wait for that one to melt down. Usually kids come and then the whole addict shitstorm just gets passed on. Fantasy living.


You know I saw an article on the Cartoon News Network about Katy Perry and Russel Brand today which plays out the whole spectrum of value for pick-up universe ( worshipped by chode society )...from start to finish. Marriage or not. I mean fleshing out the bigger picture. Hot chicks. Beating the house. The "flash in the pan" authenicity. Illusions of power and "defeating" or "managing" a bad past.
I remembered writing about it a month ago in the above post, and I sure as fuck am not taking my teeth out of this one.

Deep identity level is still where it's at...front or back end. And it's going on in the brain. Looking the other way doesn't seem to alter any of it.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/04/showbiz/celebrity-news-gossip/katy-per...
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hey man

coming from me this is probably funny.  

but i think you need to learn to relax a bit and lighten up.

every post i've seen you write sounds like you're on the verge of discovering some conspiracy theory and like nobodys gonna believe you.  

fuck this shit.  shit is funnnnnn.  do you have funnnnnn JFM?  

--tom
JFM wrote:

JFM wrote:
It's also good to remember that ALL dopamine (or whatever interactive suite of neurotransmitters) adds up to my VIBE. You can't beat the house.

Ever seen how drug addicts and bad boys just out of jail get SUPER hot chicks? Still vibe though. Because underneath is the sick addict need for the girl to get the RUSH of risk. And him getting the rush of fuck and dump. BAD BOY.

Eventually all leading to the horrible down of getting abandoned. Then back to the same "fantasy bond". This is what true high-grade addiction is. Social dynamics.

The girl heads for the same loser with poor identity ( say a Tommy Lee ) and re-enacts her abandonment. Over and over again. The chode and the guy getting out of jail are the same! Except the chode worships Tommy Lee because at least he managed to fuck hot chicks!

"Something is better than nothing". Same shit chode universe uses to create couples. Talk about motivation to clean up brain chemistry. Still, it might only be a foundation. For Tommy Lee as an example. Katy Perry. Russel Brand. Wait for that one to melt down. Usually kids come and then the whole addict shitstorm just gets passed on. Fantasy living.


You know I saw an article on the Cartoon News Network about Katy Perry and Russel Brand today which plays out the whole spectrum of value for pick-up universe ( worshipped by chode society )...from start to finish. Marriage or not. I mean fleshing out the bigger picture. Hot chicks. Beating the house. The "flash in the pan" authenicity. Illusions of power and "defeating" or "managing" a bad past.
I remembered writing about it a month ago in the above post, and I sure as fuck am not taking my teeth out of this one.

Deep identity level is still where it's at...front or back end. And it's going on in the brain. Looking the other way doesn't seem to alter any of it.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/04/showbiz/celebrity-news-gossip/katy-per...
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JFM

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Sure man. I'm like a lot of people. But I'd need to ignore myself and what's going on around me ( identity and social dynamics ) to have the kind of fun you're definitely referring to. None of the breakthroughs on this site are BASED on fun, but they do allow it.

Girls wanna have fun and leave it at that. That's feminine. That's why they need men to be able to relax and do it. Your polarity is really feminine. In fact codependency and addiction is pretty much feminine. Because they're all about avoiding reality and "having fun". Check Brand and Perry. He brings nothing BUT fun...and that's because he's an addict, and thus (played out in his relationships to women) a codependent.

This thread and the info it's biting at blows the deal wide open. It's not rocket science. It's not too much theory, and if reality is interfering with your "fun", then what we're really talking about is a desire to live like a girl.

Men don't have that luxury. There's a TON of fun based on accepting reality.
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steakandeggs

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Join Date: 02/08/2012 | Posts: 3

Hi guys

I know this is an old post, but I feel it is important enough and deserves a bump.  I registered just to post this, and give everyone a heads up on this matter.

A little about myself.  I'm 29, and I'm on my 60th day of the rebooting process.  I discovered it by myself, by a very analytical try and error process (well over 2 years of experiments).  Then discovered the site yourbrainonporn a couple of weeks later.
I've been to several psycologysts and psiquiatrists for the last 8 years.  Have been diagnosed with depression (with suicidal tendencies), severe generalazised social anxiety disorder, severe memory impairment, and a few others.  Have been on several medications such as Effexor, Wellbutrin, Strattera, Concerta, Xanax, Paxil and Edronax.
I dropped twice out of different colleges.  I've been fired twice.  I've gotten a DUI.  I've done tons of weed to try to calm down my social anxiety.  I got approached by quite a few women (I guess by my looks/status), but they quickly flew away due to my incredible weirdness.  I've never quite understood women sexualwise, and lately it had been getting worse and worse (I moved out a couple of years ago since the relationship with my parents was catastrophic).  I didn't even got along with my siblings.  Up until this point I had considered suicide more than a couple of times.
I've been a hardcore porn addict since about 14.  At this age, the Internet was just starting and I got so fascinated with it that I started my career in networking.  Needless to say, I quickly found the best sites to get all my material, and collected quite a few hard drives worth of videos..
These two posts described pretty well exactly the same changes I'm experiencing, so I guess there is no need to make my post much longer (I can say I also relate to 95% of the other blogs on that page):
http://yourbrainonporn.com/age-21-nerdy-virgin-appeared-reddit
http://yourbrainonporn.com/age-23-metamorphosis-into-chick-magnet

It has been very difficult, but so far INCREDIBLY worth it.  I've since quit all my medications, weed, alcohol (and tobacco is next on my list), my anxiety is non existant, my memory/focus is sharp as it has never been, and I feel like a huge chick magnet.  My ED is gone too.
I seriously think I had a rebirth, a second chance at life.  And I've been told that too haha.

Please do yourselves all a favour and quit fapping to porn for good.  Feel free to ask any questions, I would love to be able to help at least a few.  This stupid thing has robbed me of 15 years of my precious life.
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aNewLife180deg

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Join Date: 02/08/2012 | Posts: 4

Hi, steakandeggs !
I'm also 29 and I've started the rebooting process myself. It is the first time that I try and I'm totally determined to do it. I started this only after thouroughly reading most of the yourbrainonporn.com site and a few others.
I intend to stop P and M for ever, no exception. And I'll O only during intercourse with a real human woman. I know it can be done, since so many amazing guys did it and all of them say that it is absolutely worht it. One thing is sure: I will never ever masturbate again, amost 20 years of doing so is enough for life. I'll never do it again. I've lost too much, I've lost basically everything.

It is unbelievable what these last 10 years of PMO did to my life. It is absolutely unbelievable. I developed depression, social anxiety, 0 friends, lost an amazing girlfriend with whom I've been almost 4 years, school, everything is upside down.

I didn't realize that all my problems stem from this bad habit I had for so long. I started masturbating when I was 10-12 years old, then continued with magazines until I was about 20. From 20 to 29 I did PMO  about 1-2 times daily to videos. I have ED for about 8-9 years and I entirely lost any hope that I'll be good in bed with a woman, ever.

However, the testimonies on yourbrainonporn look quite similar, it seems to me that all of them were written by the same person. I don't know, I might be mistaking)..

I would like to ask you more info on your particular story (since you are through 2 months of rebooting). I would highly appreciate any detail/help. Could you please tell us if your libido and erections are acceptable. It is really important for me to be sure that this rebooting process will work and it's not only some invented BS and maybe only a few guys had positive outcomes...

Thanks a lot,
aNewLife180deg
PS: I stumbled on this article, which is actually amazing. Masturbation does not exist at all in certain populations in the world. Now that's something to ponder...
http://yourbrainonporn.com/weird-masturbation-habits
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steakandeggs

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Well Im not sure where to start lol..
I had my first sexual encounter when I was 18.  She was quite a bit older (maybe 30?), and I could not sustain a proper erection for penetration. I was puzzled as I was very attracted to the girl, she tried sucking and manual stimulation and that only helped partially (erection quickly went away once I started to put the condom on).  I thought that I was just nervous cause it was my first time and all.. needless to say I never spoke to her again.
For the next 5 years, I had maybe 5 sexual encounters.  In none of them I could achieve a proper erection.  When I did get it semi hard, I quickly lost it during intercourse and had premature ejaculation.
When I was about 24, I was traumatized about this and started avoiding women (unconsciously).  I quickly gained over 100 pounds during the next 3 years, and started developing social anxiety.  I got nervous around people, couldn't look them in the eye, couldn't hold a conversation.  At this point I guess I was no longer attracted to real life girls, just the ones in the computer.  Whenever I thought of a real life girl sexually, I would get extremely weird, nervous and scare them away.
I was put on the friend zone over and over, and the girls just said I was a 'nice' guy.  I did not want to be a nice guy, I wanted to fvck them like I saw in the movies, just couldn't interact with them haha.  Kind of like Raj in the Big Bang Theory..
I was VERY frustrated at not being able to have a girlfriend (or even hookup for that matter).  At this point I had no idea that porn/masturbation was the problem, so I got very self concious and my self esteem was zero.  With a combination of medications, I was able to get out of the depression and set my mind on trying to figure out what was going on.  My first priority at this time was to improve my looks -- I thought that if I dropped weight and looked good my self esteem would improve and I would be able to get a girlfriend.. So I joined a gym and worked very hard for the next 2 years.  In this time I dropped 100 pounds, and looked slim and fit.  This was about a year ago.
My self esteem got much better and I started to go out.  I got dates with the hottest girls.  But this is were is started getting weird.  My social anxiety around these hot girls got worse and worse.  As soon as she 'gave me the look' I would freak out, and so I started getting panic attacks.  I also started to sttuter, and suffered from terrible memory and brain fog.  After 5 or 6 dates with HOT girls, I was extremely embarrased at them, so once again I stopped dating to analyze what the fvck was going on..
I could not continue to ridiculyze myself this way, so from here on I started 'dating' escorts only.  I tried with/without weed, alcohol and coke.  None of them helped with my anxiety (coke only made it much worse).
I began having weekly sessions with both my psiquiatrist and psycologist, and at one point he gave me a prescription for 10 viagras (50mg).  I was scared to try this on a girl, so I tried it first with porn.  It did give me a harder erection and lasted longer, much longer.  I liked it so much, and was so hooked with porn, that for the next two weeks I PMO'd with Viagra for hours on end.. I started to sense that there was something wrong here, and that I was getting addicted to Viagra, so I got scared and stopped PMO with Viagra.
Since I felt that Viagra gave me an erection that could last for hours, I was now totally convinced (or so I thought) that my ED problem would go away.  I hired another escort (she was breathtakingly hot) and brought her home.  Four hours earlier, I popped 2 Viagras (just to be sure haha).  We had a couple of drinks and I was horny as hell (and anxious and weird, as usual).. I took her back to my room, and as soon as she started to take off my pants, my erection started to dissapear.  I was completely baffled and freaked out (and so was she).  She tried oral/manual and everything in her arsenal to no avail.  Why the fvck was it not working, when I had tried Viagra 10 times before with porn and it worked perfectly???  She then started crying and saying that she was not good/hot enogh for me bla bla bla.. I was so freaked out by this whole ordeal that I promised myself not to touch my d1ck again until I got a full check by an endocrynologist.  My train of thought was that there was probably some hormonal problem going on that had to be addressed.
The following day I scheduled the appointment with the doctor (scheduled 3 weeks from this day).  After the first week of not touching it (except for peeing lol) I started to notice a lot of changes.  I got wood one morning (first time ever!), I noticed that my relationships with people in general where better, etc.. I got dragged to a club by a couple of friends on Saturday night.  We were having some drinks, and then one of them says that a couple of girlfriends of his are coming over..  When they got to our table, I quickly introduced myself, and started talking to the girls!!  I was completely shocked!!  A couple of hours later, I was making out with one of them in the dance floor (needless to say I had never randomly made out with a chick at a club).  I felt an incredible connection with her, and could feel the sexual tension in the air.
The next day, my friend called me and said: Duuuude WTF happened to you yesterday, you rocked!! (or something along those lines)..  I was completely shocked as not only my social anxiety went away, but I could feel and attrack women like a player!!!  Later on this day I started googling and quickly came up with the youbrainonporn website, which pretty much confirmed what I was experiencing...

I had my first succesful sexual encounter about a month ago.  I met a girl while on vacation (older, maybe 40), had a couple of drinks with her, and invited her to my room the same night.. She agreed, (kept telling myself that she is not usually this easy but that she felt something special about me), and we had FANTASTIC sex.  No pills needed, my d1ck worked flawlessly ( although I did cum like a river the first time haha)..
Now I get morning wood almost daily, and my d1ck is super sensitive to real life women.  The other day, just by talking to a girl on the phone I got a boner haha.
I feel like I walk with an aura now.  Girls stare at me ALL THE TIME.  They get things done for me.  I can feel their energy just by standing next to them.  It is really unbelievable.

As a side note, I did have to disconnect the internet at my home and my phone.  Sometimes it gets incredibly difficult not to PMO (or even MO for that matter), but I am SOOOOO convinced that this works that I will never, EVER do it again.  And as I said earlier, please ask anything that you need to know.  I am not embarrassed about my story.  If anything, I hope it helps people out there, so that they don't have to suffer like I did :)

Bottom line, my erections are fantastic, and I feel they get better each day.  And my libido is through the roof, but not only that -- I also feel I emanate sexual energy that the girls can pick up on and immediately get attracted to me :D
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