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that was weird. anyway --

It was an awesome event for those of you who were there, I was glad to be a part of it. Both jeffy and tyler had the audience laughing and I'm sure everyone there got something out of it...I thought it was interesting to hearJulian speak, especially after tyler came on and told us how he was 'one of the best guys, if not the best guy today' or something to that effect...but he still needs to work on his public speaking skills...that being said, I'm sure it would've been easier if he wasn't getting questions every 6 seconds.

Questions that I have are -- is the blueprint kind of an obsolete piece of material now? It seems like some of it is still valuable while a lot of the information has been shaved down and found out to be not useful, and maybe even harmful. I don't know if this is just me or the vibe I was getting or something, but I wanted to go back and watch the blueprint and now I'm almost concerned to do this...

As for nutrition, I'm a young person who's basically eaten shit my entire life, and thus, felt like shit for a lot of it, too. Physically, at least, more than I should. Where would I start learning about how to eat healthier? Can someone recommend books or anything to me

Is it possible to get good at this, like really damn good, while also maintaing focus on other passions that i have? I like girls and pickup and whatever, but there are other things in my life that are just as important to me and take a ton of time...it seemed to me like the guys who get good at this are the ones whose singular focus becomes pickup and nothing else. I know Tyler briefly talked about this, but (as I said) I'm a young guy looking to improve a lot of areas of my life, including, but not only pickup. It seems like going out any less than 4 nights a week for like months at a time is useless and not going to help

There was also this sort of humbling concept tyler talked about that hit me hard -- the idea that you cant really appreciate ANYTHING when you're young...nature, beautiful women, literature, art, etc... I was curious at to other people's thoughts on this...

Thanks guys
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Haze~

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Haha, I thought I was the only one where that message resonated really deeply.

Anyways, even though RSD won't tell you this but I really do think TBP:D is outdated at this point.  The shit that's taught at Hot Seat now is just so ridiculously potent.  It's 3x the value you get out of BP game-wise.

Nutrition-wise, what is your goal?  Get ripped or eat health/lose weight?

If it's to eat healthy then definitely pick up The Primal Blueprint.  Best shit hands down period.  You can visit Mark Sisson's website at: www.marksdailyapple.com

If it's to get ripped there's tons of resources for that.  I've been bulking for for past 3 years and I'm about 10 lbs. away from my ideal.  I'll leave any suggestions for someone else as I'm not really an expert on this.

And in terms of getting good at pickup, here is the best advice I will give you for someone who's struggled at this for 3 years...

YOU NEED TO GO OUT ALOT.  If anyone tells you otherwise, they are full of shit.  I have not met one person who is ELITE at game who did not go out constantly for at least a year.

I'm right now trying to get my finances straight so I can move to Vegas for a year and go out every day.  If you want to get good FAST and efficently, you have to go out a lot.  After you get to a certain level in your game, you can pull it back and start focusing on other areas of your life.
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sundaybrunchtreefartskunk wrote:

Questions that I have are -- is the blueprint kind of an obsolete piece of material now? It seems like some of it is still valuable while a lot of the information has been shaved down and found out to be not useful, and maybe even harmful. I don't know if this is just me or the vibe I was getting or something, but I wanted to go back and watch the blueprint and now I'm almost concerned to do this...

As for nutrition, I'm a young person who's basically eaten shit my entire life, and thus, felt like shit for a lot of it, too. Physically, at least, more than I should. Where would I start learning about how to eat healthier? Can someone recommend books or anything to me

Is it possible to get good at this, like really damn good, while also maintaing focus on other passions that i have? I like girls and pickup and whatever, but there are other things in my life that are just as important to me and take a ton of time...it seemed to me like the guys who get good at this are the ones whose singular focus becomes pickup and nothing else. I know Tyler briefly talked about this, but (as I said) I'm a young guy looking to improve a lot of areas of my life, including, but not only pickup. It seems like going out any less than 4 nights a week for like months at a time is useless and not going to help

1. No the blueprint is awesome. Just make sure your going out regularly while you watch it

2. Your gonna have to get some seriously strict standards for yourself in terms of nutrition. At the moment everyone is pedalling paleo diets as the holy grail of nutrition, and while they are good there are alternatives so don't believe the more dogmatic paleo fans.  Paleo is essentialy a ketogenic diet that's supposed to emulate how we evolved to eat but much of the "science" backing it up is debatable, if you do decide to go paleo like most guys here just make sure you eat high quality meat. You will get awesome results off it especially in terms of fat loss though, which is why it's popular and I'm not dissing, but here are some resources on training and diet that are awesome
http://www.johnberardi.com/ 
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/ 
books: Arthur Devany stuff 
150 healthiest foods 
will post more when I find my kindle.
Train with heavy weights also, 4 times a week.. I recommend the 5*5 strength stuff to start off (google it) 

3. Yes as long as you go out a fair bit pursuing other areas is gonna be hugely beneficial to your game. The guys who I know who are the best with women (not just pick up) are not in the community. Take what you can from here, it's amazing but use your common sense and integrity. And also your focus is gonna change as you get more results, so you think you wanna be the best in the game now in six months you'll probably just wanna find a quality girl. 
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Tyler

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Thanks man!  What a fun time!

btw I think this video encapsulates the dicotomy between Julien as a "gamer" VS a "speaker" -- the guy looks all awkward on camera, then.......WHOA.



Bare in mind he's also speaking beside two extremely polished speakers.  Imagine doing that?! :)  Gamewise Julien is better than Jeff and I though, although I push ahead of Julien from time to time and then he'll catch up.  I may be ahead of him right now as I've been on a rampage while he's been working a lot.  There's things we all do better than one another -- like Jeff has stuff he does way better than both of us and also hit up 50 girls in six months -- so it's hard to compare.

Juliens speaking has been getting better and better.  I'm convinced it could be elite level if he stuck at it.  I've watched all the guys in RSD evolve as speakers over the years.  It's a huge part of our culture similar to battle rapping in the movie "8 Mile" with Eminem.

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wow hold on i fked up im computer illiterate
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thanks a ton man, for me, i could give a fuck about looking 'ripped' or anything like that, I'm pretty skinny and I don't want to eat better for anything like that, I just want to like, feel better -- I think the fastfood diet is just bad for your brain, leaves me tired at all the wrong times, things like that. I'm in decent shape, I play a ton of basketball, that's one of my passions or a hobby, whatever you wanna call it, and I'd rather spend time doing that than lifting weights (right now at least). Yeah, and I learned after like a year, the only way to get good is through cold approach at night. Day game never did shit for me, always felt creepy -- at least when I like, went out during the day with my only intention being to talk to girls. If I'm out somewhere for a legitimate reason and I see a cute girl, I'll talk to her but I don't actively go out during the day for that purpose. And using social circle to get better is like...firstly, all you're doing is spinning your wheels, you're not actually improving your skill set, and it's just...idk, very different and it doesn't work for actually getting the kind of girl you want. In my experience, it's good for accumulating useless validation...it's good if you're a pussy, basically, and are afraid of taking real action. i do love going out, that took a long ass time to happen though...it was painful for a long time because of rejection, high standards for a 'good night', I always felt that 'performance anxiety' and shit. I went out to do x number of approaches and get y reaction from girls and if I don't do that, I go home and maybe cry or something retarded like that. Eventually, i let go of the outcome and went out just to have fun and at that point, after being rejected a trillion times and having a trillion people look at me and what i was doing like i was a fucking alien, i just got over it. I have more fun in the bar or club than anyone else there, guaranteed, i act like a fucking retard and i swear to god i love it...i just love fucking with people. i wish i had more time to go into that now, but it's almost a crutch for my game. like, i'm more interested in getting a girl to believe that I am in fact an astronaut and david letterman's son or some nonsense shit like that instead of actually fucking with, i get a sort of sick enjoyment with it. I wish i had more time to talk about it, but my problem is and always has been closing (as im sure it is with many dudes on here) but i'm getting better at it through action and sort of...idk, now i do this thing where after i can tell a girl likes me (yes, i still have to get to this point. i'm not that dude who can just pick a girl up and fuck her on the dance floor without saying hello) i just sort switch into this different sort of chemistry, like it almost feels like we're in a kind of relationship already or were connected or whatever. idk if anyone can relate to that, but there you go. When i get a feeling like that, that's when I know i can close her and be myself and it's not really weird, it feels really fucking normal. idk, whatever anyway, off the subject...

good luck in vegas man, i hope you do well there. i'd love to interact more with this thread and responses but i'm going away for a few days somewhere with no internet access :0 gettin into nature mayne, do it, do it. iigh keeps it reals and shit

idk what the fuck if any of that makes sense or not, im in a bit of a rush but...okay fuck it stop typing. k
Haze~ wrote:
Haha, I thought I was the only one where that message resonated really deeply.

Anyways, even though RSD won't tell you this but I really do think TBP:D is outdated at this point.  The shit that's taught at Hot Seat now is just so ridiculously potent.  It's 3x the value you get out of BP game-wise.

Nutrition-wise, what is your goal?  Get ripped or eat health/lose weight?

If it's to eat healthy then definitely pick up The Primal Blueprint.  Best shit hands down period.  You can visit Mark Sisson's website at: www.marksdailyapple.com

If it's to get ripped there's tons of resources for that.  I've been bulking for for past 3 years and I'm about 10 lbs. away from my ideal.  I'll leave any suggestions for someone else as I'm not really an expert on this.

And in terms of getting good at pickup, here is the best advice I will give you for someone who's struggled at this for 3 years...

YOU NEED TO GO OUT ALOT.  If anyone tells you otherwise, they are full of shit.  I have not met one person who is ELITE at game who did not go out constantly for at least a year.

I'm right now trying to get my finances straight so I can move to Vegas for a year and go out every day.  If you want to get good FAST and efficently, you have to go out a lot.  After you get to a certain level in your game, you can pull it back and start focusing on other areas of your life.
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What's up guys - second that the NYC Free Tour was awesome, and I'm planning to throw up a Hot Seat review / field report after this weekend is through. Just wanted to throw out there that I'm getting back in the game after a pretty long relationship, and I'd love to hook up with whatever NYC crew RSDN has. I'm gonna be going out at least 3-4 times a week , starting with tonight, posting FRs along the way. Shoot me a PM if you're in the city and want to meet up.

With that said, fucking tight seminar yesterday and hope to meet some of you guys at HS tomorrow.
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Yep Julien looks like a fuckin faggot up on stage I hate his weiner voice and his gay frenchman mannerisms and the way he flits his hands around like a faggot when he talks 
sundaybrunchtreefartskunk wrote:

It was an awesome event for those of you who were there, I was glad to be a part of it. Both jeffy and tyler had the audience laughing and I'm sure everyone there got something out of it...I thought it was interesting to hearJulian speak, he still needs to work on his public speaking skills...
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Haha, thanks for the review man!

Also note the significant difference in speaking between the video that Tyler just posted and my public speaking that you attended yesterday.
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sundaybrunchtreefartskunk wrote:


Questions that I have are -- is the blueprint kind of an obsolete piece of material now? It seems like some of it is still valuable while a lot of the information has been shaved down and found out to be not useful, and maybe even harmful. I don't know if this is just me or the vibe I was getting or something, but I wanted to go back and watch the blueprint and now I'm almost concerned to do this...

As for nutrition, I'm a young person who's basically eaten shit my entire life, and thus, felt like shit for a lot of it, too. Physically, at least, more than I should. Where would I start learning about how to eat healthier? Can someone recommend books or anything to me


Blueprint Decoded is not obsolete, it is more about personal development which pays huge dividends in all social aspects of life as well as overall happiness. Changed my life, changed a lot of our lives here. The newer stuff is really practical and focused on getting results. It's more about going out.

As for health, start with marksdailyapple.com. It takes about a year to fully adapt to without struggle so don't beat yourself up, ease into it, it's an extreme shift from the general health community yet the mainstream is shifting more and more towards it every single day.
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 I don't know about you guys but I'm super pumped about Julien's speech from yesterday. I think he did an excellent job up there and his responses to some of the ridiculous questions were spot on. Almost like not flinching when a chick gives him a congruence test? :) I unfortunately couldn't go out sarging after the NYC conference because I had to drive back to Washington DC to be at work at 7 AM this morning. I really enjoyed Tyler and Jeffy's speeches but I have to admit, I took the most notes during Julien's part of the conference. I'm stoked to see someone as young as him being able to go out there and kill it alongside these veteran super heroes. It fuels my enthusiasm because his approach to it is quite unique in comparison to both Tyler and Jeffy. I myself am considerably young, being 25, so it's quite relatable to me to hear him talk. It's refreshing to hear the info from someone I've never read about or learned from. Not to mention, I have no idea how long he's been "grooming" to be Tyler's next protege haha as Jeffy had said, but I know for sure he hasn't been doing it as long as they have. Thanks for all the good stuff Julien, what really stuck with me was "Celebrate me with me". 
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