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May 22nd, 2013
For the guys who do direct approaches
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whatif

whatif

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Join Date: 10/20/2011 | Posts: 10

 If you are doing direct, you probably know, rejection is way more than success.

So, my question is, don't you get tired? At one point?

Do you think that one girl who gave you her number to be that worthy for the previous 20 rejections you had?

My problem, I am getting so discouraged. It feels like, why do it? So less return on investment. So, now I have decided to approach only hot girls. No mediocrity anymore.

At least, then I can justify myself, saying "Okay, they were all hot at least and I liked them".

How do you keep yourself motivated in cold approaching, even after rejections?
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agentdoublej

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 Your thinking too much thats the problem.The people i know that are naturally good with women get rejected all the time.The difference is that they dont question them selves afterwards.Matter a fact they dont even give it a second thought.

Anytime they try to get a girl all they are thinking about is that they wanna fuck.If she doesnt wanna do it they are on to the next.Their pride or ego is never on the line when interacting with a girl.Thats something im learning to internalize.
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whatif

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 So, you keep on doing, until you get someone around your way. And rinse and repeat???? Well, even I do that. But whew! It's tiresome. Getting rejections on the face, just for one fuck!
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agentdoublej

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Thats what the guys i know that get laid a lot do.I imagine their is another way but if your doing cold approach your gonna have to face down rejection.Nobody can get any girl
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whatif

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agentdoublej wrote:
Thats what the guys i know that get laid a lot do.I imagine their is another way but if your doing cold approach your gonna have to face down rejection.Nobody can get any girl
That's some solid advice, buddy...thanks!
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i love going direct, it feels way  to fucking weird for me to do otherwise...its like cmon, why are you here talking to me, oh wait he thinks im cute as fuck and sounds like he knows what he wants heeeeeyy.

 
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whatif

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u sure sound as someone who does it regularly. even i do. just the fact that more rejections bring me down. now you have to agree that direct is more misses and lesser hits, ain't it?
rightnow911go wrote:
i love going direct, it feels way  to fucking weird for me to do otherwise...its like cmon, why are you here talking to me, oh wait he thinks im cute as fuck and sounds like he knows what he wants heeeeeyy.

 
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Gitano

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Are you really doing it?

Cause when I do that, regardless of rejection o some kind of close, I fell awesome from that moment to the entire day. I feel in th emoment, really happy, carefree, at ease. magic
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blueinc

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 I feel bad too if I get rejected,but after that I realize that I did great just because I approached!
Someone said,and said well, your only criteria should be if you do the approach or not. And it makes sense because YOU CAN'T CONTROL HER RESPONSE!
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Dr Feelgood

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Of course you have to deal with a lot of recetions, that's just the name of the game, but 20 to 1 sounds really a lot. Maybe something with your approach is off, make sure to SMILE and don't show any signs of neediness, have great body language, etc.. Maybe dressing or grooming better would do you good. Get somebody to watch you and analyze you, preferably somebody whose approaches go well and who goes direct too.

It also depends on what you call a rejection, eg. a girl telling you she has a boyfriend 15 sec. into approaching, is that a rejection?

While there might be a lot of differences in our appearence, our game, our environment,  here are my experiences, just to give you a point of reference (I only go direct with "Hey, you are pretty cute! Who are you?" and only approach girls I'm at least somehow attracted to): Out of 8 sets, one will be all over me, giving me kino, etc.; two or three will come up with the boyfriend objection or any other objection right away, the rest will hook and talk to me, some more eagerly than others.

Since I started cold approach a couple of months ago, I can remember 4 or 5 times where the girl just turned her back on me immediately and waved her hand like "get lost" or just walked away right on my opener. In some of this cases, my approach was probably off/ incongruent/ needy, etc..

This is the average on a large scale, I have had nights where 14 out of 15 sets at leats hooked, and nights where only 1 out of 15 hooked.

Those numbers are off the top off my head, I don't write down statistics on this.

In your case, I would really check my appearance and angle of approach again! After that, go back to persistence! Your numbers also get better and better with experience.

Hope this helps!
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Dr Feelgood

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Zeniues wrote:
 Listen to what the Dr. is prescribing you here, i'm with him.

Lol
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