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Join Date: 09/02/2011 | Posts: 255

Another week in the books. I'm on day 13 of 21 for my shift and it's getting long. I'm getting the "camp goggles", where the 6's are starting to look bangable. 

POF and OKcupid are retarded. I fuck around for a bit, but I've yet to get any tangible leads. Apparently, copy+paste messages don't all get sent out either. So I've started writing out short personalized messages, but I get bored really really fast. We'll see how this new "strategy" works. 

I've been going to the gym hard -- Hopefully I'll be able to start deadlifting and squating soon. The ankle is getting better.
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Shadowz

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Join Date: 07/31/2011 | Posts: 305

Holy shit dude!  Fort McMurray is WAY out there.  You must be making boatloads of cash.  Drop me a line when you visit around Toronto area.  We'll have to grab a drink.

Cheers,

Shadowz
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lehmt

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Join Date: 03/12/2013 | Posts: 10

Stay away from POF and OKCupid man...lot's of shady whales in hiding shack up in those networks.
Coachella 2013 is going to be sick bro so jealous!
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Join Date: 08/08/2011 | Posts: 322

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Fred...

Fred...

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Join Date: 09/02/2011 | Posts: 255

 Goals for Bootcamp

As I sit here about to write this, I’m thinking that I really fucked up the timing of my bootcamp. I’m on day 19 of 22 of my work shift. There are no quality girls here and I’ve been forced to be a social recluse. This probably isn’t the best pre-bootcamp routine.

BUT, it is what is. I’m going to make the most of it, have fun, and learn. I’m stoked to really push my comfort zones.

Specific things I’m looking for:

1. Get myself motivated when out solo or without my social circle
2. Not rely on drinking to get going. I will not drink alcohol when on program.
3. Be a social and fun guy WHO GETS LAID. I seem to be able to do one, but not the other.

I’m not expecting the program to make me fluent in these areas, but I’d like to have a good understanding of what I need to continually improve in the weeks/months following.

Here’s my next week breakdown.

Tuesday – Home. Go out with friends and socialize.
Wednesday – Go out. Socialize. Hit up ladies
Thursday – Fly to Chicago. Freetour. Bootcamp day1
Friday – Bootcamp day2
Saturday – Hotseat. Boocamp day3.
Sunday – Hotseat. Pimp Chicago solo or with some decent guys.
Monday – Home.
Tuesday – Back to work for 15 days.

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I’ll probably throw another post up during the weekend.
Peace hoes.
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 Shadowz - Ft. Mac is a cash cow. You basically sell your life to them though. I'm thinking about doing some sweet trips with my week off. I'm hoping to make it out east at some point in 2013. 

lehmt - I'm done with it. My time is WAY to valuable to spend on an hour or two creeping through profiles looking for half decent chicks. 

ilb - Hellz yaaaa. I've got a week off right in the middle of Stampede. It's going to be sick this year. I highly recommend doing the pubcrawl on either (or both) weekends. We'll have to tear it up. 
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 Bootcamp was the fucking tits. I through up a review here: BC Review

I'll post up a detailed FR for it soon. It's a shit load to write out. I got laid, pulled another night, and got a number from a hottie brazilian. 

In other news. I'm back on the rigs... sad Fred. 

I got a few POF messages returned and went back on and got a few more messages returned. It's weird and seems really inconsistent. I'm going for the numbers, although I won't be home for another 2 weeks. Not sure how to work em out.
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 AITE BOOTCAMP FIELD REPORT TIMEAZZZZ.

These are probably going to take me the next week or so to churn out. I’m pretty busy with other shit, but I definitely want to document my bootcamp and make a plan/process going forward.

Tuesay & Wednesday

I finished my shift on Tuesday and got home later that night. Exhausted as fuck, I just went for a casual beer with Roomie and a buddy. Crash early and end up waking up at 6am because my sleep schedule is gnar town fucked.

Wednesday was devoted to chores.

Actually, I’ve been talking to a girl I had a huge crush on it high school. I vividly remember sitting behind her in Grade 9 Science class and staring at her thong that would stick out when she leaned into her desk. I was cray cray shy back then. Anways… we’ve been discussing our respective charities and strategies for fundraising. I called her up in the middle of day and had a quick coffee date. She was in the middle of a work shift, so it was only 45 mins or so. Good time, but found out she is moving east soon and I won’t see her again for years. It was more of a ‘hang out’ than anything else. Wish I had time for another meet up.

This was probably my last opportunity to find my soul mate. I think I’ll try guys now.

Later Wednesday, I go for wings and beer with a social circle. I invite a potential hookup from the group of friends, but she’s busy. I try to get really drunk, but it doesn’t go down because everyone has to work early. Call it a night and get rested for BOOTCAMP.

Thursday (Freetour and Bootcamp Day1)

Fly to Chicago.

Check in to my baller hotel. It’s right on the lake and next to Navy Pier.

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Freetour is at 8pm. I sit in the back. There’s some people dressed up weird (mystery and neil style). I’m totally judging everyone by their looks and assume half of them are socially stunted. I’m a dick. We are introduced to Derrick – he doesn’t look like a beast, but clearly knows what he’s talking about.

I meet some cool guys though. Plan to meet up with them later, but it’s a busy weekend.

Here are my notes from the Freetour:

- Frame control by being unreactive. This comes from experience and being a badass.
- When girls are quiet or nervous or non-responsive or “gonna go talk to my friends” it’s because you’ve made them selfconscious aka broke their frame and they aren’t sure what to do. This is “good game” but you need to be ready for it and help them become comfortable.
- Enjoy the moment – NOT GET LAID RIGHT NOW AHHH OMG
- Alex talks about the girl you had a crush on wasn’t a perfect 10. Don’t expect the next girl you like to be a perfect 10 either.
Overall, the free tour was really good. I had been to a freetour by Jeffy before and I thought this one was better. Alex gave an informative speech whereas Jeffy gave more of a RSD/Hotseat sales pitch. Now that I say that, there was still definitely a sales pitch in Alex’s freetour, but I didn’t feel it like it was overwhelming.

Here’s the video Alex posted from freetour. Check it.



After freetour, we meet the other two bootcamp students, D and M, and the two assistants, A and A. Easy names to remember right? Everyone is legit and I end up having a really good time with everyone throughout the weekend. Alex gives us the low-down on the program. No fucking around – business time. Do what he says or else he gets to keep your first born etc. He then asks personal questions and what we are looking to get out of the program.

After we hash out the details, it’s go time. There is some preplanning for venues and the assistants work out logistics of what should be good. We split two cabs and head to venue. On the way, we stop at Brad’s condo. I see Brad’s front door. I feel privileged.

The first venue is dead. Alex is working on finding a new place. D and M are on the dance floor two girls. Awesome. I grab a water with A and we open two girls. It goes fine, but they are just warm ups. Alex grabs us and we leave to another spot.

It’s funny, Alex pulls us out of set without a word to the girls. One minute the girls are having an arousing conversation, then BOOM, we vanish. This happened a half dozen times. I always thought it was hilarious.

The next place is a college bar playing country music. I fucking fly 4 hours south-east and I still end up at a bloody country bar. This place is the opposite of the last place. It’s so busy we can’t get through to the tables for 10 minutes. Alex briefs us on what’s going to happen and gives us pointers for the night.

My breath is bad and he gives me some gum.

We try to create a “social hub”. When solo this would be my safe zone, where I talk to everyone and just have a good time. For most nights, this will just be where all my friends are at.

The bootcamp creates a decent “social hub” or “friendzy” or whatever they called it, but we did have a group of ~10 with all the assistants and Alex’s GF + her friends.

I’m going to do my best to remember each interaction.

- First one is two girls sitting down. One girl is into it and the other gives me retarded looks the whole time. Blah blah blah for a while, then I eject under the premise to talk to friends. The idea is the night is still early and to reapproach later. I went in again later I think, the one girl was retarded again.

- Next, Alex pulls me into a cute petite girl. She’s my type, but very quiet. As I’m writing this, I actually think this might be an example of a girl being nervous around a sexy stud (me). I think I reapproach this girl another 2 times throughout the night. It never gets great and she eventually leaves for work the next day.


- Alex points to one. I go in. blah blah blah. Alex grabs my hand and puts it on her shoulder. He tells me I need to get more tactile interaction going. I do, but’s it’s forced and comes off awkward for me. Usually I’m drunk and just flail around. She eventually blows out because she has a boyfriend and isn’t comfortable with the escalation. That’s why we do it right? Lesson learned.

- The last girl tells me about her single friend. I open the single friend. We have no chemistry or she got offended or something and leaves. I don’t remember specifics. A, the assistant, was with her later and Alex had me reapproach. I was about to tell him she wasn’t into it, but remembered that I would have to give up my first born. FUCKKKK this felt so brutally awkward. It shows in my body as I walk up meekly. Full ignore by both the girl and A. Another lesson learned. Go in hard.


- Open a girl on my own. Turns out it’s on of Alex’s GF’s friends. Alex says it doesn’t count and pulls me away and into another girl. I feel a little bad for the girl as she looked a little dumbfounded.

- I open a few more that I can’t really remember now.

- Alex has me go in on a mixed set and try to blow out the guy. I do and talk about some random shit for a while. The guy and girl are clearly friends or dating. I just keep going for a while. Then for a little longer. Just being a social guy, but I’m a bit scared to escalate – I don’t. I eject after like 5 mins.

SET OF THE NIGHT

Alex pulls me around the bar and points to a girl hanging all alone. She’s meh and I point it out. Alex mentions the fact that she would be fuckable if naked and in my bed. Point taken.

Go in. This time I’m more self-amusing AND I get physical quickly. The physicality isn’t much, just some shoulder brushing and other ‘normal’ stuff. It’s going well. Her friend comes in and starts testing me hard. This friend is much hotter and I’m instantly thinking about upgrading.

“Are you that Canadian guy from the back room?”[=rgb(153, 50, 204)]
“Depends, what did he do?”
“Hit up every girl around”
[/]“Yup, I’m that creepy guy” And I pull her in and pretend to be creepy.

I basically didn’t buckle at all. She tested me a few other times with shit like this too. I didn’t let it affect me at all. Eventually, I’m getting physical with both girls and we’re joking around having a good time.
All the other interactions were very logical. I would ask “get to know you” questions and the girl and I would just go back and forth. This interaction was WAY more fun. I’d go on little tangents about the girls being rapists and trying out a Canadian guy. Random shit like that. Some normal stuff would be in there too. About 50/50. This is MUCH MUCH better than “Chicago is nice. Canada is cold” type conversations that I was doing for the rest of the night. It also is easier to build up comfort and be physical when you’re joking around and having fun.

It’s closing time at 1:30am. The girl’s still want to party. Alex tells me to leave with them. WALK OUT THE DOOR WITH THE GIRL. They have some girl talk and we walk out the door and into a taxi. We create a role play where they are my tour guides and I’m looking for a good time or some stupid shit.

The bar they take me to is dead. I grab us all a beer ($3 beers!!!!) and we chill. An interesting dynamic comes up. The hotter girl is clearly the ‘alpha’ and through some girl code and other whispers she tells the first girl to go home. This is definitely a new experience for me. So now I have the hotter girl isolated and all I did was hang out. She takes me to another bar and we buy each other drinks.

The drinks end up being crazy expensive here and strong as fuck. It’s only my second drink of the night, so I have no problem taking it down. I don’t consider this drinking on program because I had already singled out this girl for the rest of the night. It also would have been incredible fucking weird if I bought her drinks without havingone.

I realize the girl is a bit drunk. This could just be that I am more attentive because I’m still very very sober (compared to a normal night out). I suggest grabbing a cab and share it home. We’ll go to her place, then I’ll take the cab to my hotel. Great plan.

I felt out going to my hotel a little, but I could tell she wasn’t down. Once in the cab, I screen logistics about her place. Everything looks good. When we get there, I pull out money, pay for the cab and ask;

“I’ll just stop here, OK?” and start getting out
“Ummmm” hesitantly “OK”[=rgb(153, 50, 204)]
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She has a really cool place in Lincoln Park. We go upstairs and start making out. She’s got a tight body. Yummm. I push and pull her around the apartment making out and grinding on her.

In bed – she keeps doing this teasing shit where she’ll stop everything and pull away. I wait for a while, not caring. She would either jump on me or I’d eventually pull her in and continue making out. She won’t let me take off any of her clothes. I’m in just my boxers.

I try hand on boner technique. No go.
I try freezing her out. No go.
I try escalating hard and aggressively taking off clothes. No go.
I go to bed and try again in the morning. No go.

In the morning I got her tits out and we messed around for 2 hours, but not P in V or oral activity. I’m not too bothered by it. Figure I’ll grab her number and try getting her on a Chicago date. We text back and forth, but it doesn’t work out.

Also, saw pad wrappers in the bathroom garbage. I figure she was on the rag as she wouldn’t even let me slip in a finger into her thong.

I aimless wander around Lincoln Park for a while looking like a scrub. Get back to the hotel and pass out until Bootcamp Day2.

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Fred...

Fred...

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Join Date: 09/02/2011 | Posts: 255

 I’m working on my bootcamp FR’s, but they’re coming slowly. I’ll get them down by the end of the week as I finally head home for some RnR.

I wanted to post up quickly and update where I am now. I’ve basically done 0 game since bootcamp. It’s the sad reality of living in camp, but I knew it would happen. I’m worried that I will have forgotten the break throughs from bootcamp. I’ve taken good notes, and I just need to follow through with the plan… which I still need to write up. Otherwise, I’m really excited to get back into civilization and talk to hot girls.

In other news, RSD contacted me about being a volunteer in Calgary. I thought it was a cool idea to put my name down and see what came.

They want volunteers to put up their guys for a few days… wicked.
They want volunteers to help out with logistics and shit for bootcamp… sounds fun.
They want volunteers to drive the instructor around during the week… not the best, but OK.
They want the volunteers to PAY for the flight of the instructor… …. …. ….

I don’t mind feeding the odd meal to my guest, but if I’m flying somebody to come live with me for a week, they better have tits and give a mean blowjob.

That’s my line.

Rawr. Going home tomorrow. Fuck in eh
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Join Date: 10/22/2012 | Posts: 864

 nice first day with the bootcamp, buddy...post the other days.
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