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 The past weekend was awesome. Definitely pushed hard on that comfort zone.

I’ve been focusing a lot of energy the past 7 days toward my volunteer organization. We had a national conference in Calgary this weekend. It was really exciting listening to the speeches and meeting some really solid people.

Thursday
I go to a social for my volunteer organization. When I get there, I don’t know anyone and I just start talking to the first group I saw an opening in. Ended up having a really cool conversation with two Asian girls. I wouldn’t count this as an approach. There was no intent, I was focused on networking and not banging.

I’m really not sure where to set the line for when it’s ok to “game” girls vs. when I should focus on the task at hand. Work? Volunteering? Even day-game seems out of place because I’m usually doing something first, not hitting on girls.

This is something I should sort out. There’s so much opportunity in my day-to-day life.

Anyways, I bail from this thing and go meet friends at the bar right across the road. We drink and have fun. Asian girl comes and I hang with her for a while. At the end of the night, she was going to another party and I was heading home. I convinced her to drive me home, and then some retard going to the party jumps in the backseat. Biggest unknowing cockblock. I was going to pull her into my place for some fun timez. Plot foiled.
We madeout anyways and she texts later about “wanting another kiss” I try to get her to come over again. No go.

Friday
I have to get up at 6am on Saturday for my conference. I don’t go out. I feel a little guilty about it. Probably was the right choice, but I felt like a at the time.

Saturday
Conference all day.

This event definitely pushed my comfort zone. I only knew about 5 of the 650 people here. Met a tonne of tonne of people and has some great conversation.

Got home after 12, it was almost an 18 hour day

Sunday
Same as Saturday.

Monday

I have the day off because I’m presenting for my work at the conference. It goes fucking awesome, I presented to the entire 650 person conference. Bad mother fucking ass.

The conference ends with a dinner gala that doesn't finish until 12. I have two drinks and I’m beat. I want to hit up some of the super-hot-and-lonely university girls here, but I’m exhausted from another 18 hour day. I talk to some people I met during the weekend, then bail.

I wish I had stuck this out, but I didn’t have anyone to hang out with and I didn’t feel like doing it solo.

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The conference took everything out of me and I was pretty sick Tuesday. Took it off and slept almost all day.

Here’s my 1st week and a half of my habits. I really have problems when something throws me off my schedule.

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EDIT: I wrote this last night tired and a little baked. Read it this morning and it didn't make much sense. Fixed.
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Thursday

Work on some volunteer shit until late. I’m hesitant to go out, even just to meet up with my social circle.

Finally get my shit together and meet friends at the wine bar. I drove and only had 1 drink here. It’s just a chill hour or two with friends.

The girl’s here are all fairly cute. Asian Girl isn’t here, but Natalie Portman look-a-like is. She’s clearly all over my buddy still. I just hang out and mess around with friends.

At the end of the night one of the girl’s is very touchy and up in my grill. I mention I’m driving home and she asks for a ride and says something about “coming inside to hangout for a bit”. I read this as “come inside and bang”. Unfortunately, I’ve already agreed to drive 2 other people home and this girl is the first stop.

I could have played it better to push it for the SNL, but I feel like something might be there for later. I’ll probably just wait for another social circle event and try to take advantage of my opportunities.

This girl has a smoking hot body. Fantastic looking tits and was wearing some really sexy leggings with boots. My weakness. She is really good friends with AsianGirl though, so this might be burning down some bridges. I’m at a point where I’ll just go with the flow and let things play out.

Friday

Awesome day at work. I come home feeling fantastic about how much I accomplished.

Chill with Roomie for a while and then head to the bars. We smoked a tiny bit of weed. I usually hate smoking before I do something social, but I think we smoked so little that it turned out good. I’m always going to avoid smoking before going out though. I also had quite a bit of cough syrup before going out because I'm still really sick. Definitely a bit buzzed from that.

It’s a big social circle group again, but a different one from last night. I get intro’d to a bunch of new girls (probably 5-6), but I’m not too interested in them. One caught my interest, but she got pissed because I didn’t know her name and we’ve met a bunch. I have no recollection at all. Hmmm

Do a bunch of social circle shit and end up drinking a fair bit. In hindsight, I think I was procrastinating from doing approaches. It’s way more comfortable to just hit up your female friends for a conversation, than it is to hit up new girls. Unfortunately, it’s doing the uncomfortable things that gets the desirable results.

A few situational openers, but nothing worth mentioning.

Hand of god/high five a cutie. It hooks and we’re having fun. Then a friend pulls her away. I try to open her again and the same friend pulls her away. I should have been more assertive and punched the other girl in the ovaries. #lessonlearned

I need to change (implement) the process I follow at the bar. Currently, I just go mess around with friends and let any approaches happen naturally. Although this works OK, it doesn’t create a good environment for meeting girls every night. What I need to do is set myself some requirement to hang out with random people. Doesn’t matter if it’s ugly chicks, girls I’m not 100% into, or even random dudes. I just need to get in the habit of socializing with people outside my friends at the bar. Once I meet them, I can always introduce them to my friends and go from there.

Saturday

Hung over today and HOCKEY STARTED AGAIN OMG!!!11!1!!

I watch 3 hockey games back-to-back because I’m a rediscovered addict.

Later on, the plan is to hit a friend’s birthday party at his place then the bar. When I get there, everyone is uber wasted. i.e. two people puking on the walkway, another passed out in the boot room, someone puking in the kitchen garbage, and there’s a full on WWF wrestling match in a bedroom. I’m quite sober in comparison and it's about 10:30pm.

There’s a few new girl’s here. My friend’s have clearly been hitting them up for a while and most have paired off already. I find one single girl and hit it off. Then she magically disappears from the party. It was 11:30pm and she vanished as I taking a piss. Maybe she was just in my imagination?

I proceed to get very frustrated with the night because no one here is going out and I want to hit up a bar. No cabs will pickup and I’m stuck. I end up getting really pissed, which is pretty dumb because it’s my fault for not seeing this happening earlier in the night.

I eventually get a cab with a buddy who is aggressively making out with a hottie in the backseat. I’m bitter. Hahaha I’m actually quite jealous at the time. It’s weird thinking back to how pissed I was. I’m not usually like that.

I also watched my ex-LTR get pulled by someone in our social circle and it bothered me a little. Almost 2 years after we've seperated... sheesh.

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So, it was kind of a shitty weekend. On Sunday, I was still a little pissed at myself for wasting another weekend. I did have a big realization though: I have no one to blame, but myself. I know what I need to be doing, but I’m not doing it. The excuses are there, but they don’t really matter. I’m responsible for my own actions and they aren’t enough right now.

Here’s my “plan” for upcoming nights out:
- Set tangible goals for the night (i.e. cold approach 5 cuties)
- Put myself out there (don’t half ass things)
- Focus on these three things
1) Eye contact
2) Projection
3) Tonality


Exactly 2 months until I fly to Chicago for bootcamp and hotseat with Alex. Brad won’t be around.
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 Hmmm not really sure what to write up here. I’m frustrated with my efforts for cold approach in January. The last few FR’s have been preaching “less drinking – more action”, but in actuality it’s been all drinking and very little action.

I end up coming home drunk, pissed off for not doing what I need to, and not really having had much fun. It feels very weird for me to be like this. I’m not sure what’s going on in my head. If I had to give it a label, I think it would be outcome dependence. Although I don’t know if that fits exactly what I’m dealing with.

Here’s my weekend:

Thursday
Just watch a hockey game with friends.

Friday
Have a bit of a kicker at mine. It’s cool. Quite a few females show up, but the ones I want to hook up with don’t show (Asian Girl et al.).

One of the other social circle girls seems down, but I don’t push it. There was tension when we were alone. At one point, I had the thought “I should kiss her” which always means it’s time to make out. Didn’t go for it though. In this scenario (at home and early in the night), I’m OK with this.

The females in our group all go to a shit bar and the single guys head somewhere else. It’s 12:00pm and the place has a huge lineup. At least it’s setup so the lineup is inside the bar and you don’t need to wait in the cold. Our group gets separated as everyone tries to sneak in. Somehow almost our entire group snuck in within 10 minutes.

I chode for a while and have a few drinks. I didn’t think I was that drunk, but my hangover on Saturday says otherwise. Finally got my shit together and did a few of uncalibrated approaches. It wouldn’t go well for the first 30 seconds and then I would just eject. I did most of these solo as I kept losing everyone. We we’re all in “pickup the hot bitches” mode and it might have put me in a weird headspace. I’m usually in “OMG, fun times. Let’s party” mode. The second one is more conducive to having a good time and attracting females.

Only memorable one was a hot black chick that I opened and then was blown out by Roomie. Basically, when he came in to say ‘Hi’, I just left and was a chode. I guess it was memorable because I was retarded.

The rest of the night is a similar level of gay. Roomie is fucked up too and almost breaks up with his GF over text. #drunkdrama

Saturday
Tonight was better than Friday, but still not my best effort.

Start at a house warming party with a hockey game. I meet a really cute girl here, its right as we’re heading out though and she isn’t coming to the bar. She was wearing leggings and her legs we’re so sexy. If she had boots too… probably would have came in my pants.

It’s just me and two buddies heading out tonight. Their both studs, but a little on the shy side.

1st bar is incredibly bad. We leave within 10 minutes.

2nd bar (same as Friday) is packed and we sneak in again. We hang around for a little and relax. This isn’t choding because we’re having fun doing our own thing – big difference. I see a girl I know from Thailand and chat her up. She’s not attractive and my buddies try pulling me away. I’m just catching up, leave to find my buddies.

They’re doing something on the dance floor and my ankle isn’t good enough for that yet. I find two girls playing on their phones and say something about having no friends – maybe they can call some of theirs for me. Or some stupid shit. It goes well until some guy friend comes in. He does some really really weak AMOG attempt, but I leave anyways. I laugh at myself as I walk away for being so easily pushed out.

I maybe try one or two more while looking for my buddies. There was no commitment on my part and neither of the approaches got any traction. When I find my buddies, they’ve just been prowling the d floor (they’re shy) and not really hitting much up. Now we chode for a while – not having fun and kind of just standing there looking for something to do.

Go for a walk and I just say quick comments to random people as I go. I should probably try to get a bit more than just a few comments in to the hot girl’s, but I find this helps me get rid of any AA.
I see a group of tall cuties and go in without hesitation. The girl I try talking to is wearing skin tight camo pants and I make a comment on them then ask about her night. She stares at me then looks at her friend. I stand my ground and look at her, then the friend. The friend laughs and tells me the girl is from Norway and has never been to an English speaking country. I have to talk loud and clear to the girl, but she has basically perfect English. One buddy comes and takes the other friend. We end up spending a long time with these two.

My buddies are slow to open, but once they do they have pretty good game. He isolates his chick on the dance floor, make outs, gets number, and then finds out she’s still in highschool…. Ehhhh moral dilemma.

I hung out with my girl for a while, just chilling. I didn’t progress anything and I think she got a little bored. I should have done similar to my buddy. Isolation then escalate.

They’re leaving and she takes my name to add me on FB. She doesn’t have a phone here. She adds me the next day, gonna message her and go for a d2. Worth a try.

It’s closing time now and the place has turned into a cock farm. We leave.

A homeless man threatens to kill me on my walk home.

For real. It’s fucked, but I handled it calmly and left without provoking him. I think he wanted to mug me, but was thrown off with my casual attitude.

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This took me forever to post, but I've been messaging the Norwegian girl. Doesn't look like there'll be time to meet up. Oh well. Get more girls right?

In other news, starting to get into the swing of the workout and healthy eatting stuff. I'll write up what I'm planning soon.

xoxo,
Fred
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A quick one hurr.

Thursday
I get white girl wasted. Have Friday off and completely waste it with a hangover.

I had a blast with friends.

Some girls got hit on by me. I have no idea how it went, but we have pictures.

Friday
8am-5pm: As mentioned above, hungover. I don’t start my day until 5pm. Play lots of Call of Duty. Oops

5-9pm: I own life and get a day’s worth of stuff done.

10pm: Meet buddies at a pub, the spot we want to go to has a big line up already.

12:00pm: Eventually we go in and I run into some RSD guys leaving. Then I run into a bunch of girls from highschool. I end up chilling with these girls for a while and grabbing 2 numbers. Not sure how to play these ones. I’ll probably try to arrange some group social meet up. The two girls are both very cute. I’ve changed a lot from my relationship days and I think they were suprised.

1:30am: Crunch time. I haven’t really drank tonight (maybe 4 drinks over the 3+ hours). It’s tough getting going with the cold approach. I spot an absolute babe in cougar print. She’s clearly looking to be approached. I hesitate and some dude jumps in. Then another dude does. Fuck. Don’t hesitate. I don’t approach and there aren’t anymore eligible ladies. Head home.

2:00am: Get baked and read for like 2 hours. I have some really interesting realizations while baked and reading. I’ve been writing them down, now I just need to translate into sober language.

Saturday
I’m feeling a little shit about the amount of action I’ve taken this weekend and decide to stay sober(ish) and hit the big club today. I think I drank 6 or 7 beers over 6 hours, so I was basically sober. Minor success #1.

The line is fucking massive again today. I use a friend’s promoter card to get myself and 7 friends in with no line. Success #2. Once in, follow the process:

1) Approach right away
2) Put myself out there (intent)
3) Keep approaching (Min. 5 cuties for the night)
4) Have fun

I did a good job tonight; definitely talked to more than 5 cuties, intent was sort of there (work-in-progress), and I had a pretty good time with my buddies causing shit and messing around. I did have a hard time getting anything to stick, but I can’t control the girl’s reactions. I don’t remember much in the way of details. Some things that I need to do more:

- Reapproach
- Lead
- Mix approaching and fun at the same time vs. having fun and approaching separately. It’s weird, but we would chill with friends then go look for cuties. I feel we should always be doing both. Pull the cuties into our fun circle.

Last one of the night was the best, got her number, but no response to texts... meh.

My buddy snuck us into the VIP of the VIP areas. We got to hang out with some of the Chicago Blackhawk players. I only recognized Jamal Mayers and Duncan Keith, but apparently some others were there too. It was packed full of hotties.

I had front row seats to a crazy bar fight. A guy got one punched and didn’t get up. He was down for 5 minutes before they carried him out still unconscious. Another dude from the roped off VIP area reached over and suckered someone in the back of the head then just disappeared into his area. I don’t even think he was involved in the fight, he just wanted to crush someone in the back. Weird.

It was a much better night for me. I can tell that I’ve been messing around a lot lately and have a bit of rust. It’s all good though and I’m looking forward to keeping this going.

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Concentrating hard on my habits. January was pretty good, but there’s still a lot of room for improvement.
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 Great motivation man. I am working on night game sober, so i know it is hard not to get wasted just to relax, and know your limits :)
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 Life just threw me an interesting twist.

I've been asked (told) that my employer wants me start working shifts in Ft. Mac. For the non-Canadians, this is where the 'evil' oil sands are.

I'll be working a 14 on 7 off shift. I'm going to benefit hugely from the experience, at the cost of my social life. Fortunately, it's short term (until June/July).

Some of my plans for the upcoming months will have to be rearranged and hopefully I won't have to cancel anything. (i.e. Bootcamp and Coachella).

ONE SMALL PROBLEM:         Drug Test.

I've been smoking weed about 1-2 times a week for a few months now and that shit takes a while to get out of your system. Talked to some friends and did some e-searching. Got a 'protocol' to follow that will hopefully increase my chances of passing. Failing isn't an option. So for the next little while:

- working out like a mofo
- taking a fat burner
- creatine & vitamin B supps
- eatting hardcore healthy
- only going to have 1 or two glasses of wine tomorrow (no drinking otherwise)

Stop working out 3 days prior to test and start on a heavy calorie surplus, fat loaded diet. On the day of the test I'll dilute myself and load up on vitamins and creatine. 

Good luck Fred, ya fucking idiot ;)
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BerlinCity wrote:
 Great motivation man. I am working on night game sober, so i know it is hard not to get wasted just to relax, and know your limits :)
It's tricky. My friends (myself included) would probably fall under the definition of  heavy binge drinker. It's really tough to be the person not drinking whatsoever. Most of my social circle will have 8+ drinks over a night, including the chicks. I've found it's easier for me to just limit myself to a drink an hour. Keeps me out of my head yet not too drunk to function. 

I've found having a glass of water between drinks is really helpful to slow down the drinking. Drink Water Drink Water... I assumed the next step would be to have more water between drinks.

100% sober club game would be cool, but it's just not in the cards for me right now. 
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Not much to put up here.

I feel like I have negative momentum in the cold approach arena. I’m just not motivated to go out and approach right now. My focus is on hanging out with friends, working on my volunteering project, working out and keeping up the diet. I’m probably going to go really hard this weekend.

There’s a few connections through social circle that I really need (want) to follow up with. These are really cute girls that I like hanging out with. One girl just broke up with her BF and wanted to hang out Wednesday, but I was busy. Gonna try to arrange something this week.

Thursday
Wine night.

Two social circles out and each has 15-20 people. I bounce between the groups. Try to pull AsianGirl home, but she’s going out partying and I’m going to bed at 12.

I kind of blow one guy out who is talking to a cute friend. It wasn’t on purpose, but I don’t want to isolate myself or be a dick to these guys.

Friday
Go to a house party that ‘promises’ a big group of new girls....

I WAS TRICKED! There are very few girls and none are doing it for me. I joked around with one and didn’t really make an effort on any of the others.

Destroyed some foozball and got some dudes pissed at me.

Winged like a super hero for a friend and helped finally get him laid with a chick he’s been chasing for a while.

The party is really far away from the bar scene and I don’t have time to make it out. I’m DD and didn’t drink at all. #crashdiet

Saturday
Watch a professional lacrosse game – it’s loads of fun. This would be an absolutely amazing date. It’s only $20 and is a blast.

Head to a pub and just hang out with friends. I wasn’t feeling the cold approach at all. I have a few drinks, but keep it reasonable.

Actually, I did one and the girl had some snarky remark. I literally laugh at her and turn away. Ain’t nobody got time for that!

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Hey dude, nice progress here. Awesome that you're going out regularly and getting good at this stuff

Something that helped me with my FRs is to start approaching less good looking chicks (see: fatties) cause it helps get my momentum going for later in the night. It's also pretty awesome to fuck around with a group of less good-looking chicks and all of a sudden their stunner friend rolls up 
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Wow.

It's almost been a month since I posted on here. Damn time goes by fast.

From my last post, I haven’t done much cold approach. I think I went out one or two nights since then. Nothing major to report. I got a flakey number from an 18yr old. That’s really fucking young. She went to the same high school I did, but graduated 7 years later.

Had some stupid shit with the ex where she was getting pissed watching me hit up girls. Then I cabbed home with her and told her to come in. Told her twice. She said no and I left. I was a little pissed later, but whatever. I should have just stayed out and done my own thing.

Cut ties with RHCP girl. She wasn’t doing it for me anymore. I feel a bit bad because she’s really into me still.

A few possible leads on social circle girls, but it’s not much to go on. My schedule is also no longer really conducive to PU because…

BIG NEWS…

I took a camp job close to Fort MacMurray doing a field engineer position. This is the good life…

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The guy to girl ratio is about 5:1 and the girls here are all 6’s and 7’s. Or 50 yrs old. They all get aggressively hit on and put on pedestals by everyone. Some of the girl’s I work with are really cool, but even the bitchy chicks get treated like princesses. It’s gross.

We aren’t allowed to leave camp, not that there is anywhere to go. My cold approach is basically being put on hold. My plans to travel Europe for a few months are also going to have to be pushed back. Once my shift gets settled, I’ll be 2 weeks in, 1 week out. I’ll beast HARD in that week.

I don’t even mind having my 2013 plans messed up. This job is such a great experience and I really like the work. With this on my resume, I become really marketable. I’m making 50% more and after this I should have a fairly easy time getting a job internationally. I’m finally getting an idea where I want to take my career. A very vague idea, but it’s there.

I am still planning on taking a bootcamp and hotseat with Alexander March 22 in Chicago. Obviously the timing isn’t great, but I had already committed financially and RSD wasn’t willing to move it back on such short notice. That’s cool, it’s a business after all. It’s going to be a blast. I’m doing my best to stay social until then. We have 400 people in my camp and I’m trying to meet new people every day. It’s not pickup, but talking to strangers keeps that social muscle going.

Coachella 2013 is still in the books. Fuck ya.

Volunteer shit is consuming most of the free time I have. I want to own this. Another great experience and I really really want to make it successful. It’s an added challenge doing it remotely, but I can make it work.

I’m thinking about starting up the POF and OKCUPID account again, but I still have a bitter taste about it. Last time it was such a big time investment for such mediocore results. I’m thinking of going for a few numbers and working on text and phone game. I’ll see about this one. I don’t have much time to invest.

That’s me for the last month. Damn can plans change.
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