THE FORUMS

Hi all,

Where to start... Jeffy started the program off stating that by the end of the first day  we were gonna be begging for no more pick up material.  Consciously I wanted more but yes my brain was loaded after the first day.  Moreso after the second.  Its a good overload though. 

First off for 300 dollars I Feel like this program honestly delivered 10 times the value for me.  I know some people have been complaining that its nothing new or nothing you couldn't do yourself and I wholeheartedly agree.  Thats the beauty of it though.  Jeffy states from the beginning that no one is cut from a different cloth and after watching the videos and seeing him in action I would be inclined to agree.  On great nights for me ive done things similar to him.  It didnt disappoint me seeing that I already can do these things but reaffiremed in my mind that I already know what to do instinctively I just need to get out of my head, remove the layers of conditioning and enjoy myself like these guys.  Also they show you that pick up doesnt have to look perfect.  Just get it done.

From watching short clips of Jeff online and hearing about his reputation I really thought he would be laying waste in the field doing things that were borderline insane but I was really surprised that Jeffys game is alot more finesse than straight ahead barraging the girl.  It gives more credibility to him I think.  You can tell this guy knows what the fuck he is doing and is in control at all times.  There are videos where he gets a little wilder but for the majority I saw it as more sophisticated game and its true he probably uses the most material of any of the instructors but it works for him. As far as overseeing the whole event Jeff was on top of it. He was energetic and present the entire time. It went for about 10 hours and there wasnt a moment where you felt he wanted to be elsewhere.  He clearly explains whats going on in the videos, gives you commentary of things you probably wouldnt notice and answered every question someone asked of him.  And yes of course he was as hilarious as always.

The other instructors videos were cool as well.  Evil Stifler is agressive as fuck. Just fingering and molesting girls he meets on the street. Definately a beast.  Loved Brad.  He just seems so happy all the time and fun and you can tell its infectious to everyone around him.  Ryan has a more cut the bullshit get to  the point style of game.  What I took away from seeing the different styles is that there all rooted in having good intent, relating as a man to a woman, having core confidence and drawing state from within and having no outcome dependence.  Once you have those down you can do or say whatever you want and if thats your personality it will work.

I had built alot of hype in my head about Owen's in field videos and I figured that I built it up so big I was gonna be disappointed but I couldn't have been more wrong.  As intense as he is in the free tour videos when he's in field it's like watching robocop as Jeff put it.  Its hard to describe what its like watching him.  The best way I can describe it is that it's like watching a movie and your not really analyzing every step your just thinking ok this is the way men and women should relate.  He's just having fun with the whole interaction , enjoying them fully and amusing himself constantly.  His assistant Julien is constantly trying to steal girls from him and it just makes it more fun for him like No No Julien she's adorable and she mine, picking them up and carrying them away etc.

The Foundations Reloaded part of the seminar was great too.  Owen brought his older son to the event and it really brings everything back into perspective, this is a normal man who decided to have an incredible life and get really good at something and just did it.  Proof that anyone can do it.  Owen is a commanding speaker.  Watching him in video doesnt do him justice.  When he gets more into the self help business he really is gonna help alot of people.  Watching him speak was incredibly motivating and although alot of the paradigms he talked about were somewhat negative I just felt postivity coming from him about each one.  This was my favorite part of the event and I'm glad he decided to do it.  Thanks Owen!

After Owen laid out the principles He gave a quick Q & A and like Jeff was very knowledgable and personable and I could tell he enjoys helping out people.  He said his life goal is to create a map to pick-up and lifestyle development so anyone who wants it can use it and he's more than happy to give away all that he knows.

Julien( Julian? im not sure man sorry) took care of handling the actual textbook portion of the foundations.  At this point I was incredibly tired after the weekend and felt like I wasn't getting much out of it.  This is no fault of his own though, the points were well explained and he was engaging and had some great ways of going about it I had not heard before, but I think after watching these guys all weekend what you say or do doesnt really matter as long as your bringing your real self. 

Overall I'm glad I went.  For the amount of money you can't go wrong and for a newbie or intermediate guy I think the program would be immensely helpful and for what little money there probably making from it they bring alot of value to the table.

Oh and Owen I was wondering have you ever heard of a book called Zen Guitar by Philip Toshio Sudo?  Theres alot of interesting ideas in there and although its more geared to a musicians mindset they relate to anything.  Kind of like the book Mastery.  My favorite part is the author talks about how when you want to learn a new skill you have to constantly be wearing the white belt, meaning that you can't ever think you know everything and you have to constantly be learning to move ahead.  He then says that you cant earn a black belt the only way to get one is to wear the white belt for so long that it becomes dirty and then eventually turns black from your experience.  You really remind me of that , constantly trying to better yourself and always trying to obtain new reference points while keeping the mind of a novice.

Will definately be attending another RSD program in the future.