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Pumba

Pumba

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Join Date: 05/20/2009 | Posts: 440

 Hey everyone, it's fucking 5.15 here in Romania (we're close to Russia btw yaaaaaaay we're cool) and just for the lulz I decided to start a FR journal, at least updating it every once in a while. Quick heads up, I'm 21, been to the Jeffy Hot Seat in London, and I'm broke, in debt and going out at least once or twice a week, cuz it's my drug and I love it. Highlights for 2nite: Congruence is key, just approach Chode at the start of the night, be cool with the fact you're feeling chode If you just accept you're a chode (Lol this sounds ridiculous now at 5am), you will not resist and you might have an awesome night, no matter what you're still giving value to people -not superficial value-, cause you're authentic Yeeeeyyy first long set at the start of the night, seemed kinda cool Play2Win, stay in set but after a while Go for the Fucking close. If it's 20 minutes (tell by your gut Please, don't fucking count them) past, go for the Makeout or eject, you're wasting time, especially when you're not feeling sexual chemistry, only friend chemistry Trust yourself, just be cool at the start of the night, you will build this shit up, just be chode and approach dear chodey Dozens approaches (30+ or so), 3 makeouts, 2 of them genuine interactions, though only one of them will prolly keep in contact, also made a new best fatty friend for life -unfortunately she wants 2 fuck as well, but she's cool, we can be friends if she's cool and not pushing it- Still cool though, I could've stayed home and watch Jersey Shore -Still cool, but not As cool- When you accept your state, and who you are, going out and talking to people is fun, cause you're not trying to fake anything. Cheers, will update this once in a while, just to brag to myself and see how awesome this is, cause when you work 4 long out of 6 days you kinda forget. And then you're broke and you can't do this. CAN and MUST still find a way to do it, at least once in a while, THAT's HOW AWESOME this is. haha I'm going to far... well thanks anyone who's had the patience to read this, don't forget if you're reading this... Going out and Being YOU is AMAZING, it's addictive, so Have Fun
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The 3 commandments of rsdn

Thou shall read The Tolle.
Thou shall eat only Paleo approved food.
Thou shall not jerk off to porn. 


My FR Journal:
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/201240 

'I'm willing to be happy doing anything, even if it sucks, as long as the overall picture is leading me towards an outcome I believe in.
But if it ain't getting me to where I want to go, I'm willing to do ANYTHING to extract myself from that situation.  If I have to bloody myself and risk KILLING myself I'll get out of that damned situation and into one that I like.'
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Pumba

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 Update this was the biggest thing I got out of Tyler's vid from yesterday, along with accepting your 'charisma level' and be congruent with it. Also had a damn long sexual set (like the girl was fucking begging me to fuck her in the back of the club -not literally, I'm just being an overly excited chode-), but anyway the realization is this: These Girls WILL STILL HAVE SEX, no matter if the guy is not the perfect actualized individual. So for instance in that 'set', girl's name was Claudia, after I approached I literally thought 'this girl gonna have sex these nights prolly with some lame drunk douche. Fuck it... I'm gonna be that douche' Now unfortunately I was too chode too lead her out of the club tho I did move her to a quitere area for 20 minutes, sexual tension and everything was SO ON, just confort and real trust was not there, cause in her mind I just seemed like a douche who might fuck the shit out of her and never talk 2 her again. After fucking fingering her for half an hour and her rubbing my cock. My small cock :)... sweet

It's funny cause, even in set, when I feel like being genuine, I sometimes tell the girl shit like 'You know... Look at me... Look me in the eye. I'm not that douchebag. I know how you feel and What you feel.' I sometimes feel this although it makes her more on 'my team' like she gets me, it also slightly makes her go like 'so I guess he's not that fucking retard that's gonna rail me behind the dumpster'. At times I feel like girls only want FAST hookups with retard douchebags (haha me being the biggest one) cause then they can rationalize in their mind that 'it's ok, it doesn't count'
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KJ Trollin'

The 3 commandments of rsdn

Thou shall read The Tolle.
Thou shall eat only Paleo approved food.
Thou shall not jerk off to porn. 


My FR Journal:
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/201240 

'I'm willing to be happy doing anything, even if it sucks, as long as the overall picture is leading me towards an outcome I believe in.
But if it ain't getting me to where I want to go, I'm willing to do ANYTHING to extract myself from that situation.  If I have to bloody myself and risk KILLING myself I'll get out of that damned situation and into one that I like.'
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Pumba

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 Monday, October 11th

Worked for 10 hrs till 7pm. Got home at 8 felt sick, fell asleep. 9pm a friend texts me asking me out for a beer. I was like wtf let's do it

11 get there place is packed feeling chode (as usual at the start)

Did some chode approaches, by the 3rd or 4th at least I get them to hook, friend arrives. It's funny he's actually kinda amazed though I feel I'm doing pretty chode

'Sarged' the whole freakin place, somewhere in my mind I was still wanting a makeout or a pull, rather to prag about to myself and feel the shit, not as in my real intent

Went alone to Obsession, kinda the hottest club in the area, somewhat the hottest club in Romania for that matter (yeah rly), 3rd time ever I went out alone here. Approached like 15-20 sets here, mostly blowouts, 3 or 4 'long sets' one of them Anca there was some sexual attraction, though I choded out, should've been like fuck it lets go for the makeout 10 times and eject, I just went once, talked 2 or 3 mins, felt boring (I know, I know, I was boring I actually felt I wasn't like 100% there) and ejected. Most sets went like that, only 1 or 2 real harsh blowouts (actually proud of them)

Lessons: I learnt that I still suck, but I still AM THE SHIT FOR APPROACHING TOUGH SETS

Like seriously, some of them, especially in the 2nd club, snotty club, everybody dressed up cool, I was just like haha whatever, though I admit I kinda felt like going for a certain outcome, somewhat not fully present, so to speak. 

2nd lesson: reaffirmed that I'm not quite as sharp when I'm underslept. I knew this when I went out, but I was like, you know, I usually make this as an excuse, 2nite I'm just gonna go out somewhat tired and being congruent with it as Tyler would say

Btw I only drink beer, no 'hard liquor' for me, unless girls buy it. Usually it's like 2-3 beers and then whenever I feel thristy I have either oj or lemon beer

Still a good night for me, learnt a lot, over 30 sets and I feel awesome. To be honest even the nights you get blownout a lot (lyke myself 2nite) are waaaay  better then the nights you chode out and don't approach. Cheers, nite
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KJ Trollin'

The 3 commandments of rsdn

Thou shall read The Tolle.
Thou shall eat only Paleo approved food.
Thou shall not jerk off to porn. 


My FR Journal:
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/201240 

'I'm willing to be happy doing anything, even if it sucks, as long as the overall picture is leading me towards an outcome I believe in.
But if it ain't getting me to where I want to go, I'm willing to do ANYTHING to extract myself from that situation.  If I have to bloody myself and risk KILLING myself I'll get out of that damned situation and into one that I like.'
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Pumba

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 Wednesday 

So 2nite two of my highschool mates plan to meet up. One of them just came back from US, another one from Spain and whaddya know, I came from the Jeffy HotSeat in London 3 weeks ago.

I meet up with one of them, bar is kinda empty so we have a couple of beers. As it fills in, I do some approaches, pretty good shit, one of the girls Laura liked me, why the fuck didn't I push for the makeout? Oh yeah I choded out after she was with all her friends we were leaving and I was like ahhh well next time, tho obviously there was no next time

btw listening to this as I type 



Oh and before we leave I talk to this fat chick by the bar -fuck that shit, no pickyness at the start of the night-, girl has great personality, like super cool girl. Too bad she's fat, I actually give her a peck on the lips (I know, I know, omg you kissed a fat girl bro wtf)

Then we get to AfterEight, hotties everywhere, meet up with the other guy and his other like 8 or 9 friends. Some girls

Now listening to this 
. So throughout the night I spend some time with the group (booooring I wanna approach) and once in a while I bounce through the club, approaching. Good part of the night is that I approached a load of hotties, legit 8s and 9s, and no no girl gets a 10 so they were full turbo -SMOKESHOWS as some *cough* would say-. Most of them hooked but not for a lot, like 30 sec or a min. Some of them went really well though, usually with younger girls. Cool thing to do, after a set or two of 9s or whatever where you just command them to do stuff, for fun, going to a girl that's just mildly attractive is a piece of cake, and usually her reaction is like 'omg you're so great who are you?'

Anyway, throughout the night I keep getting blown out, or ejecting cause I feel like I don't belong there (in the set) any more. It's a vibe I know, sometimes I should just stick the fuck in like Fingerman. So after like 2am I left totally gay cause I didn't feel like doing this shit any more. Feelssobadman sob.

So here I am after 4 hrs of sleep I might go out again 2nite though I have work tomorrow, we'll see. I love going out alone, and as long as I go out and I approach it's a good night.
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KJ Trollin'

The 3 commandments of rsdn

Thou shall read The Tolle.
Thou shall eat only Paleo approved food.
Thou shall not jerk off to porn. 


My FR Journal:
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/201240 

'I'm willing to be happy doing anything, even if it sucks, as long as the overall picture is leading me towards an outcome I believe in.
But if it ain't getting me to where I want to go, I'm willing to do ANYTHING to extract myself from that situation.  If I have to bloody myself and risk KILLING myself I'll get out of that damned situation and into one that I like.'
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Pumba

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 hahaha 3.30 AM I did well 2nite went out by myself, again. Lessons:

Macro-momentum (4-5 nights a week out) is the shit, like 2-3 approaches and you're ON again.

Go for the make-out. Just for the lulz. Get make-out blowouts, shit rullz.

No strong alcohol, only beer and beer with lemon

Action is always the answer.

Stop counting makeouts (I'm trying not to brag right now), just be cool with them it's not something to write on your wall brah, normal people do it. Go for the pull with girls even if they dont seem DTF. Be cool with text messages, with girls liking you

Abundance and MORE GIRLS is the answer to 90% of your life problems (thanks Jeffy)

Tomorrow get into long-term mode, be a man, be responsible, get ready for work.

Cheers! Sebastian
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KJ Trollin'

The 3 commandments of rsdn

Thou shall read The Tolle.
Thou shall eat only Paleo approved food.
Thou shall not jerk off to porn. 


My FR Journal:
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/201240 

'I'm willing to be happy doing anything, even if it sucks, as long as the overall picture is leading me towards an outcome I believe in.
But if it ain't getting me to where I want to go, I'm willing to do ANYTHING to extract myself from that situation.  If I have to bloody myself and risk KILLING myself I'll get out of that damned situation and into one that I like.'
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Dr Feelgood

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Like your journal, you seem to be a smart guy!

Question: Do you isolate every time before going for the makeout? Does making out ever work for you without having isolated first? How do you proceed, do you just grab her and do the deed or say something before etc etc? I got some problems with isolation/ getting makeouts and have also let slide some sure opportunities over the last couple of weeks just by being a pussy.

Where in Romania are you based?

Greetings from Austria!
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Pumba

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 Short FR I went out on almost no sleep in the last 48 hrs (due to going out and working and going out again and working) I was Totally not in the headspace, but it's weird nowadays, it's like I have the urge to go out, so I just do it no matter what.

Night was a succes for me, did countless approaches, expressed myself though I was massively tired. High energy sets (like drunk girls dancing) 2nite were just a no go for me, mostly. It's funny when you go out almost every night, and not with a goal in mind, for that night, every night where you're just being you, no matter how tired, is a great night. Like it is the most addictive thing ever. Just talking to girls purely for the fun of it, no outcome, just saying random corky things about you, though simultaneously pulling back a little bit.

Only thing to improve, tonight I was weak in being 'like a man to woman' as Jeffy would say, idk if it's me being underslept for so long, but mostly I just was lazy, just talking around, joking, mostly friendly hugs, but not too much man to woman. Just a little amping that up a bit and it's fine.

Work in 3 hrs unfortunately. Nite!
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KJ Trollin'

The 3 commandments of rsdn

Thou shall read The Tolle.
Thou shall eat only Paleo approved food.
Thou shall not jerk off to porn. 


My FR Journal:
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/201240 

'I'm willing to be happy doing anything, even if it sucks, as long as the overall picture is leading me towards an outcome I believe in.
But if it ain't getting me to where I want to go, I'm willing to do ANYTHING to extract myself from that situation.  If I have to bloody myself and risk KILLING myself I'll get out of that damned situation and into one that I like.'
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Pumba

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Dr Feelgood wrote:
Like your journal, you seem to be a smart guy!

Question: Do you isolate every time before going for the makeout? Does making out ever work for you without having isolated first? How do you proceed, do you just grab her and do the deed or say something before etc etc? I got some problems with isolation/ getting makeouts and have also let slide some sure opportunities over the last couple of weeks just by being a pussy.

Where in Romania are you based?

Greetings from Austria!
Thanks! 

I don't, though I think that isolating is very important if you're bound to get a day 2, or a more solid interaction. Makeouts are no big deal, last night I made out with a girl 30 seconds or so after meeting her and I'M DEFINITELY NO PRO, I'm just beying myself - it was also at the start of the night, so I was definitely not 'in state' or having momentum, rather just like 'ok, let's talk to her, no big deal'. Otherwise if I'm cool and nonneedy girls makeout, but it's mostly short makeouts (always be the one to end it :)  ), and part of them is doing it to get a lil validation from friends, and have fun.

I hear you on the isolation. Like I need to be happy purely that I approach, but simultaneously I also have to amp it up a bit. One of the ideas that helped me A LOT and resonated with me was from Tyler's last clip, the fact that these girls will have sex anyway, even if the guy is not a pro, or an actualized guy or whatever the ideal is. They will have sex with a guy who goes for it and escalates - and isn't weird in a needy validation seeking way- because most guys simply don't go for it. So I just try to make the moves and escalate no matter how imperfect it is.

I'm from Cluj-Napoca btw, somewhat close to Hungary.


Next for me on the list is the MakeoutRejection Challenge, it's a thread from a few years ago, def a cool exercise. Also, quick question for everyone who's doing this, I live with my Mum, in the other room tho, and 2-3 miles away from the clubbing area. Most girls I meet don't live by themselves. Any ideas? Other then outside, it's freezing here. Thanks!

PS I got my own midget stalker now for a few days bahahahahaha. See how it turns out. Cheers! Sebastian
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KJ Trollin'

The 3 commandments of rsdn

Thou shall read The Tolle.
Thou shall eat only Paleo approved food.
Thou shall not jerk off to porn. 


My FR Journal:
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/201240 

'I'm willing to be happy doing anything, even if it sucks, as long as the overall picture is leading me towards an outcome I believe in.
But if it ain't getting me to where I want to go, I'm willing to do ANYTHING to extract myself from that situation.  If I have to bloody myself and risk KILLING myself I'll get out of that damned situation and into one that I like.'
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Pumba

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 So it turned out the midget stalker was kinda playing me out. Sucks to feel awesome one night then like a complete loser the other night and then the shit again. Basically what my life has looked like in the last years
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KJ Trollin'

The 3 commandments of rsdn

Thou shall read The Tolle.
Thou shall eat only Paleo approved food.
Thou shall not jerk off to porn. 


My FR Journal:
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/201240 

'I'm willing to be happy doing anything, even if it sucks, as long as the overall picture is leading me towards an outcome I believe in.
But if it ain't getting me to where I want to go, I'm willing to do ANYTHING to extract myself from that situation.  If I have to bloody myself and risk KILLING myself I'll get out of that damned situation and into one that I like.'
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Dr Feelgood

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Ok, thanks for the explanations!

Seems like those make outs you get do more to prevent sex than to make it possible. And yeah, push yourself hard!
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Pumba

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 Shortest FR ever I sucked shit 2nite, I didn't approach as I wanted and basically wasted 2 hrs of my life. More details about this in the 2nd post of this thread

http://www.rsdnation.com/node/202188?#comment-787390. I didn't suck shit cause of the reactions or whatever, I sucked shit b/c I didn't take action as usual, I just thought I'll do it later or some other time. I also got a lil bit of a cold.

I wanted to say this in an earlier post but I didn't, anyway... I'm not happy with my life situation. I work on somewhat of a medium wage here in Romania, about 400$. I live with my Mum and half of the time in the same room with my brother who has been diagnosed as a Schizophrenic years ago. He's like a small brother to me, although he's 23, 2 years older, but he can be annoying at times. -Long story, will talk later about it-.

I have huge dreams, like enourmously for where I'm at, because I've changed myself radically over the last 5 years or so. -Also a longer story, and it didn't have anything to do with pickup at first-. But it's like everyday I'm living here, I know I won't make anything unless I change this situation. I left college 6 months ago cause I was tired of having it payed by my Mum and feeling like I owe her anything.

In short, what buggles me now, is that I earn about 400$, I spend about 20$ a night out, a proper diet would cost me about 300$ a month (i've done it in the past but I didn't know about pickup back then all I wanted was healthy diet and gym), I don't have money to go to the gym, let alone live by myself, which is my biggest goal for the next year right now. Basically, I've read about IM and making money online, so far I didn't get much out of it. Maybe I've been to lazy though.

Currently my 6-12month plan is to work in anouther country -unfortunately quite a few people from here have to do this, most people in our country are either broke or rich, not much of a middle economy class-, and see where that takes me. I visited London a month ago, also attended the JeffyHotSeat, and so far I'm leaning towards England. It's funny to be sitting at a computer in a nice warm home at the moment, and my goal is to fucking pick berries sometimes in the rain, just to earn 3 or 4 times the money I'm earning now, so I can move a step forward. One thing I DO know is for sure, unless I change my current situation, NOTHING WILL CHANGE. I ain't gonna win the lottery and I ain't gonna have girls knocking at my door.

Oh well, enough ranting. I'm coughing my brains out right now, I can't believe I got a cold, I've been eating as clean as I can afford, takind my vitamins and fish oil, but I do admit I've been stressed out at work. I wanna get awaaaaayyyyy to another life, in another time. Does that make sense? I've had 2 beers this night -I try to keep it somewhat light, no hard drinks-, but I felt like I was daydreaming all day, weird. Oh well, cheers to everyone who actually had the patience to read this. Nite
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KJ Trollin'

The 3 commandments of rsdn

Thou shall read The Tolle.
Thou shall eat only Paleo approved food.
Thou shall not jerk off to porn. 


My FR Journal:
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/201240 

'I'm willing to be happy doing anything, even if it sucks, as long as the overall picture is leading me towards an outcome I believe in.
But if it ain't getting me to where I want to go, I'm willing to do ANYTHING to extract myself from that situation.  If I have to bloody myself and risk KILLING myself I'll get out of that damned situation and into one that I like.'
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