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May 23rd, 2013
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#21
Porfiry

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 OP should have omitted the fact that this is from a Harvard prof. Now people view it as an opportunity to be perceived as smart if they can say it's "not that difficult", it's "general" etc.
It's really not about that but about the quote itself, guys. It's also not about fucking Ivy league and the concept of genius debates.


I like this part "Excessive conviction is often a sign of insufficient thought" 

It's usually so, that newbie pickup guy is super convinced of the new theories, says it's THE way, etc. Same for people who start learning about diets, like Paleo, in the beginning say stuff like THIS is IT and everything else is wrong. (it all kind of because a bit like a religion in the beginning. You challenged yourself a lot by taking on new ideas and don't want to be challenged again) It's not a bad thing and it's totally understandable. I've been there. You learn something new and the certainty help you to get over your old believes. Also there is some frustration for not having seen it before etc.

And those parts: "The best scholars maintain an open-mindedness and humility about even their own core beliefs." and "Intellectual maturity comes when you can maintain the right balance between informed belief and honest skepticism"

are, of course, very true. I would say it's kind of rare though. Homeostatis is a bitch. Few people like to be open to change the believes they have so difficultly formed. 
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Yeah the Paleo example is huge. Especially since Paleo is a limiting diet. A lot of bodybuilders and healthy people eat tons of carbs and the philosophy for bodybuilders now is just calorie deficit (cut) or surplus (bulk)... VERY GOOD EXAMPLE.

Then again, when you buy into a system it can make things far more efficient for you.

So using an RSD or MM style of game is useful in that it lets you focus on one thing. Taking the jeet-kun-do approach would be very complex and time consuming. Doesn't mean that one school is better than another. Same goes for diets, work out programs, etc.
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 OP should have omitted the fact that this is from a Harvard prof. Now people view it as an opportunity to be perceived as smart if they can say it's "not that difficult", it's "general" etc.
It's really not about that but about the quote itself, guys. It's also not about fucking Ivy league and the concept of genius debates.


I like this part "Excessive conviction is often a sign of insufficient thought" 

It's usually so, that newbie pickup guy is super convinced of the new theories, says it's THE way, etc. Same for people who start learning about diets, like Paleo, in the beginning say stuff like THIS is IT and everything else is wrong. (it all kind of because a bit like a religion in the beginning. You challenged yourself a lot by taking on new ideas and don't want to be challenged again) It's not a bad thing and it's totally understandable. I've been there. You learn something new and the certainty help you to get over your old believes. Also there is some frustration for not having seen it before etc.

And those parts: "The best scholars maintain an open-mindedness and humility about even their own core beliefs." and "Intellectual maturity comes when you can maintain the right balance between informed belief and honest skepticism"

are, of course, very true. I would say it's kind of rare though. Homeostatis is a bitch. Few people like to be open to change the believes they have so difficultly formed. 


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You guys remember the movie Beautiful Mind with Russel Crowe.

The guy knew he was a genius but he wouldn't be recognized so until he had some revolutionary/breakthrough concept. Until then he was just a washout failing all his classes.

I think the definition of genius isn't centered around the abilities of an individual, but more so the social/scientific recognition they recieve for their efforts.

Steve Jobs is considered the world's most prolific business leader and marketer. There are other business leaders who have revolutionized the world just as much (if not more) than Steve Jobs, I assure you; but the only difference there is social recognition--e.g. Sam Walton (creator of Wal-Mart)--does his name not deserve to be chanted in the streets as well?

As for the original post, people are saying it isn't THAT uber of a quote. Well, I think it is. I think the merit of prolific thoughts and ideas should be weighted heavier coming from people smart enough to dumb them down; not necessarily the complexity of origin of the thought itself.

Any of you here could have expressed this same idea in an essay or a paragraph.

This man is smart and his quote is smart.
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What that professor is saying is nothing revolutionary. It's is just a basic philosophical agreement among anyone who respects science. Old stuff. True , tho.
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#26
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See what you're failing to realize is the government is giving him millions in grants to do research on economics, and this is what he comes up with
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#27
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Cool reasoning, I agree with him.

I dont think you need to worry in contrasting what a Harvard profersor said and a theory from a pickup company, both can be absolutely true within their own field.

Just dont worry too much about the manual, put what the manual says into practice and you will archive whatever your goal is.

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Cool reasoning, I agree with him.

I dont think you need to worry in contrasting what a Harvard profersor said and a theory from a pickup company, both can be absolutely true within their own field.

Just dont worry too much about the manual, put what the manual says into practice and you will archive whatever your goal is.

Peace.
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BTW, LOL at comparing joke narcisism to scientifical knowledge.
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