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Man sounds like an awesome night even though you didn't rage it as hard as you are able to. So cool that Tyler and Julien were there.
Why not get into not trying mode, then you wouldn't have the initial awkardness? Lol I guess that's easier said than done.
Why not get into not trying mode, then you wouldn't have the initial awkardness? Lol I guess that's easier said than done.
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Yes man this is what I want to focus on too. I need to not be a pussy sometimes and just go for it all the way unapologetically. Otherwise I act like I need the girl's approval in order to move things forward, instead of just leading that shit to the finish line. I guess the best way to do this is to "go for it" while not caring about outcome at the same time.
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I have no reason not to go out everyday. For the past few days, I just havent really felt like going out though. So thats kind of bullshit. Anyway, I will at least do 1 set a day, no rust day tyler style. So today I went shopping at Trader Joes, got a bunch of groceries and stuff. Opened one girl next to me, asked her about how ripe avocados are. Feels super like a cop out what im doing. It kind of is but at least I did 1.
I have sort of lost motivation to push myself and go for it for the time being. Is this normal, or am I just being a pussy? Maybe if I keep my mind on the greater vision of sexual abundance with hot girls and being in a position where I dont have to put up with their bullshit.
I just have to reply because I totally relate to this. I think these kinds of moments are soooooo important for you to make the choice to not give up, even if you just feel like taking a few days off. I always find it sooo personally rewarding to just keep making the decision to go out and take action, and do something every day or night. This is how you stay consistent, and it's how you build hardcore long term momentum. When you look back you realize "hey I did approaches every day for the past x amount of months, I can only be fully satisfied at the effort I've put in so far. And this is the best that I can be right now with the effort I've put in". So it's like the most efficient way to learn game. And I think doing 1 approach in a day is totally fine. And I uses RSD and other rationalizations to help me out; such as "how am I gonna live my dreams if I don't go out right now and talk to some girls". I always try to choose adventure. Hope that helps. I have sort of lost motivation to push myself and go for it for the time being. Is this normal, or am I just being a pussy? Maybe if I keep my mind on the greater vision of sexual abundance with hot girls and being in a position where I dont have to put up with their bullshit.
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So I havent been out since sunday night. Thats the longest break ive taken, (3 days) in about 2 months now. I have definately achieved a new baseline. I was out tonight, and just feeling so chill. Like nothing is wrong at all. I can walk up and approach all relaxed if I want to. Or I can just chill. Sometimes I find myself just chilling and not approaching. In the past, this action would have made me get a turned up in the inside. Now I can just be chill about it. So thats cool.
Before I went out tonight, hit up free tour LA. Awesome.
Julien talked about sucking girls into your reality. Getting them to focus their RAS on you. He calls it geniune communication when you just freely express yourself and do not ping off the girls when you talk to them. I do not do this. When I open, I need the set to hook quickly so that the girl is into me, which pumps my state and then im good to go. Like I can only take an akward period of 3 seconds before I freak out. Whereas hotter girls, they will test you for maybe 5 seconds or 8 seconds or 10 seconds. The initial period where they stand there and give you wierd looks and see what you're about. To sum it up, I dont trust myself enough to go for 10 seconds or whatever else with a random hottie at the bar or on the street. So thats definately a sticking point I have right now.
Anyway, after free tour grab a bite to eat, then meetup with Leo1337 and hitmelighting at the standard. For some reason they are not open, so we bounce over to 7 bar or something. Place is small and not crowded. Bounce over to 7 grand bar. I open a couple sets, they last for less then 1 minute. Just warmup. Then bounce over to La Cita at about 12. Place is pretty crowded. I would say ~100 people in the venue. Definately some cuties.
Scope out the venue. Chode around. Open 1 set. Chode around more. Look at my watch. Chode around. Look at my watch again, fuck its going to be a long night. Chode around more, pretty chill feeling though.
Spot Leo1337, he says 30 second game. Lol, dont want to play but I need to. So do that. Open like 3 sets, nothing sticks. I am in a low state and expecting/hoping for the girls to just perk up with excitement and talk to me. Sorry chody man, no mercy! Lol.
I open a girl, shes friendly, hug she smiles. speak about 5 sentences. she says something. Then 1-2 minutes in she leaves. My best set of the night so far, haha. Leo is standing next to me and he swoops in on this girl as she walks away from me, he hooks her and eventually makes out with her. Fuck. Full illustration of my failness at the moment.
Hitmelighting comes over hes like Owen and Julien are here!! They are on bootcamp, madness ensues. We walk over towards owen, I just want to see if its really him lol. We stand and say hey to him. As he walks by, he says nice to see you have good momentum going. Tooled, lol. I see this super proper looking kinda nerdy guy talking to two hotties, it doesnt look right to me. Later realize it was a bootcamp student doing his thing, nice.
My night is not going great, so I am resigned to just watching Tyler and Julien run bootcamp. Im watching Tyler up on this girl, just holding her standing hip to hip, watching body language, thinking shes uncomfortable he needs to pull back, but owen just stays up on her, so that was a good note. I guess I can push it harder then I thought originally. Julien walks by me and hes like what are you doing, take action!
Fuck me, I walk over to the girl next to me, open the set. lol. More standing around, the bootcamp assistant give me shit now, so I open another girl. She doesnt hook within 3 seconds, shes a little standoffish. Shes just testing me, if I can keep selftrust for longer she would hook. But she gives nothing to me so I blow myself out. I go back to the assistant and start counting down from 30. lol, hes all like nah im assisting program, that games for you. He starts counting me down from 20. Im like fuck, open another girl, haha.
I was at like 2 sets in the venue before the bootcamp rolled in, suddently ive done about 5 more sets, im starting to get excited and starting to get into state, I still resist and resort to chode mode if someone else is not pushing me into sets. Lame. By now the night is ending and I just watch Tyler game.
He does some crazy shit, girl walks up from her table, a hottie. Tyler intercepts and within about 10 seconds they are mouth to mouth lol. She runs off in one minute. My one minute sets are like maybe a hug, his are makeouts. Nice. Theres a girl talking with some dude, they look together. Tyler stops about 3 feet infront of her, just looks at her, and she is fully RAS onto him. Guy is standing right next to her, but he fully doesnt exist anymore. Tyler is whispering to the girl, initially she resists but Tyler is irressitable, lol.
A little later, lights go on, time to bounce, Tyler is holding some girl talking by the exit. Some random dude comes up puts his hands on this girls shoulders and says hey whats up. Tyler just starts cracking up and walks away. Im assuming this was another student sent in by julien to amog Tyler. Lol.
That was a fun night, super spiced up by the presence of the bootcamp.
Something for me to work on:
-Sailing through the initial akwardness while opening, by doing less pinging off the girl.
-Trust the process and just hit hit hit and get some momentum in the night.
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