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#41
EventH

EventH

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Join Date: 01/10/2011 | Posts: 821

enthalpy wrote:
 People dont realize that looks give you an edge.  Its doesn't gaurantee anything.  Two people with the same fashion, same game, same life style, same stats, same every other variable constant.  After appraoching 1000 of the same sets, the good looking guy will get more success.  When you are looking at statistics, you have to look at a large body of data.  You cant look at one set or one example and make any conclusions.  There are too many other factors coming into play.

Its like saying height is good for basketball.  But if you take a 7 feet tall uncordinated fat loser vs Spud Webb, Spud is still gonna kick his ass because Spud has speed, experience, cordination, and just an all around  amazing player.  But if you take a 7 feet tall spud webb (if he ever existed) vs the current 5'7 spud webb, then probably the 7 feet tall spud webb will win.

Here is ultimate question, does it really matter if they do (What do you gain by stating they do? all I see it as is trying to impose self limiting beliefs onto others, it will not improve anyones game and especially not yours) Sure you can train blah blah (I already do) and wear nicer clothes etc. But dude ur in every looks thread spouting same stuff I feel like I'm back on the bodybuilding misc, seriously quit. You should read some of Tylers posts, He made best post i've read about looks ever not long ago and everything he said resonated with me. The way you state it is NO THEY MATTER you don't state shit about improvement at all, Tyler does even does say yeh you should take care of yourself have pride in your hygeine personal image nothing wrong with that at all. But beyond that they really will not make much of a difference once you dress nicely take care of yourself etc, and I for one believe they don't because i've seen it.
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#42

rogerhelms

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 OP is a virgin. 

You know this is all bullshit when you actually bang a girl who wasn't into you at first.  I've had girls plain flat out say "I didnt like you at all when we first met, you werent my type. But you were persistent"

Whether she didnt like the way I looked or my personality wasn't nearly as appealing, shit doesnt matter. I had a goal, and that goal was going to be met.

Keep trolling breh.

Guys who fuck a lot know this truth: About 1/3 of the girls they bang HAD ZERO interest in their looks whatsoever. Some were even turned off by it. They didnt like your hair, your mustache was gross like a catepillar died on your lip, you smelled funny etc etc. None of that matters when the girl just wants to get laid.
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#43
EventH

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Every time I see a looks thread (Apart from instantly being like here we go again troll time),  I instantly think they probably don't go out. Honestly.


rogerhelms wrote:
 OP is a virgin. 

You know this is all bullshit when you actually bang a girl who wasn't into you at first.  I've had girls plain flat out say "I didnt like you at all when we first met, you werent my type. But you were persistent"

Whether she didnt like the way I looked or my personality wasn't nearly as appealing, shit doesnt matter. I had a goal, and that goal was going to be met.

Keep trolling breh.

Guys who fuck a lot know this truth: About 1/3 of the girls they bang HAD ZERO interest in their looks whatsoever. Some were even turned off by it. They didnt like your hair, your mustache was gross like a catepillar died on your lip, you smelled funny etc etc. None of that matters when the girl just wants to get laid.

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#44
Superman2003

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Johnathan Sampson wrote:
What do people mean, "his game wasn't good". He had good body language, he was confident, he played hard to get...

Do people expect to him to be some crazy fucked up character like jeffy or evil stiffler? Is that the *only* good game?

Nah , his SUB-COMS and just the way he presents himself, VERY natural (and obviously ego-validation of his looks through his life would have given him this this self esteem and natural qualities).

Yes he's good looking, but he has all the other stuff aswell.
No he doesn't. He could have escalated way earlier and he was boring as fuck. Women want to laugh and have fun and she was the one pushing it the whole time, not him
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@ Superman2003 - DUDE, I have been going at it for a while now, meeting lots of guys in the community and nobody has as much core belief in themselves as you. In all seriousness you have the strongest core confidence I have ever been around. I was thinking about that.
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#45
EventH

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Look deeper than what he did externally?

He was unreactive, in his own reality, he wasn't even trying. (Funnily enough all concepts tyler teachers ding ding ding)

People who also harp on about looks seem to also be conversly ones who don't ever point out whats going on at a deeper level, only the surface things they can see.


Superman2003 wrote:



Johnathan Sampson wrote:
What do people mean, "his game wasn't good". He had good body language, he was confident, he played hard to get...

Do people expect to him to be some crazy fucked up character like jeffy or evil stiffler? Is that the *only* good game?

Nah , his SUB-COMS and just the way he presents himself, VERY natural (and obviously ego-validation of his looks through his life would have given him this this self esteem and natural qualities).

Yes he's good looking, but he has all the other stuff aswell.
No he doesn't. He could have escalated way earlier and he was boring as fuck. Women want to laugh and have fun and she was the one pushing it the whole time, not him
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#46
masterson1

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Looks don't matter if you're an asshole about it.

The dude in your video played it cool and wasn't a cocky fuck...this guy is different
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#47

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I'll be super honest and objective.

I'm a super hypercalibrator. I can't help it. I'm devoid of human emotions other than lust, anger and envy...so I'm forced to be very observant of the reactions and world around me in order to survive. Let me
tell you fucks somethings...

His "subcommunication" had many many many cracks in it. By this is you see that at split seconds he DOES go into his head, he IS in fact many times acting nervous and shit...however....

You fail to realize that this particular women seems super duper shallow and looks oriented. She is NO way shape or form an accurate sample of what most girls out there are like, even hotter ones than her.
You fail to understand that maybe his particular look also stimulated her imprints of what she finds physically THE MOST attractive (that does exist btw).  I'll bet that she maybe had a boyfriend that looked
similar to him in some way who she was crazy over.

How do I know? That is the real science behind it. She already CHOSE him due to...YES his fucking looks. Does this mean that every girl will react this way to this particular guy? HELLS NO. Does it
mean that looks are everything? NOOOOOPE. In a cold approach scenario, can a guy possibly steal her away from this man, even a guy who isn't as good looking as him or not her type? Possibly.
Theres no sense in speculating. Maybe not, who knows. Do it and find out.

What this means is that this is probably super shallow AND this man happened to be her type. His "game" was not to screw it up too bad. The fact that be made some small "erorrs" was in fact a GOOD
THING....this isn't theory. Had this man been super duper smooth snucka pimp daddy mack, it would have been suspect and attraction may have even gone up or been unharmed...but the TRUST levels
would have been clearly affected.

Ever seen a good looking guy who is just too fucking smooth. It's cheesy. I'd say that this worked out the way it did out of pure fluke. Thats all there is to it. This man wasn't cold approaching, he didn't meet her
through cold approach, he was on a TV show and they happened to hit it off (IF the TV show is REAL and not scripted). The Blind date TV SHOW is NOT a cold approach.
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#48
Fred E. Rick

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Bidder84 wrote:
 You gotta realise that when people supplicate to you, you automaticly take on the role of the "more high value one" and your behaviours flow from there.
100% true.
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#49
EventH

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I could ask you same and just assume well how do I know he's being truthful? Plus I could just say I've banged like 100 woman, but  they could have all been fucking hideous and desperate for all you know so it's kind of pointless to ask such a thing. I've been in game roughly almost 3 years I think? so how the hell would I keep track of life time approaches!? All I said if you yourself have self limiting beliefs about looks fine, but don't go imposing them onto other people nothing of value comes out of it, that type of shit belongs back on the misc (Funnily enough a forum full of insecure dudes who bodybuild to hide fact they suck shit socially so everything on that forum is toxic to read, ESPECIALLY their general attitudes to woman). Give some of Tylers forum posts a read I found them really good last few he made relating to looks (it'll be in his history). Every post he makes always has related to me in some form, I know who i'm going to believe + I have some of my own personal experience when it has come to looks (Among a few other posters who've come into this thread). Have you ever considered good looking people just have game because they build the confidence from BEING told they were good looking from a young age thus assumed the role of someone who gets laid. I have been called good looking by girls numerous times when i'm out recently, so hey maybe I am really good looking? (Conveniently it's when i'm in a good vibe/state and having a good time I get it) way I see it is who the fuck knows, who the fuck cares. I used to think looks matter up until I got more into this, then the whole looks thing in my head sort of faded away.

Your right game does compensate for bad looks, but hey guess what. guys who are good looking with bad game still struggle to get laid hence do they really matter? Take a look at some of dudes who post here i'd class as pretty good looking guys. You automatically also assume because you as a man judge a woman on her appearence they do the same to us, but they are wired differently. But believe whatever you want dude, i'm not here to circle jerk mentally over the looks thing, i'm just posting so if anybody feels uneccesarily insecure about it they go look for the right advice. I joke about it but literally in this forum post I feel like i've been pulled into it so i'm out.



enthalpy wrote:


EventH wrote:




enthalpy wrote:
 People dont realize that looks give you an edge.  Its doesn't gaurantee anything.  Two people with the same fashion, same game, same life style, same stats, same every other variable constant.  After appraoching 1000 of the same sets, the good looking guy will get more success.  When you are looking at statistics, you have to look at a large body of data.  You cant look at one set or one example and make any conclusions.  There are too many other factors coming into play.

Its like saying height is good for basketball.  But if you take a 7 feet tall uncordinated fat loser vs Spud Webb, Spud is still gonna kick his ass because Spud has speed, experience, cordination, and just an all around  amazing player.  But if you take a 7 feet tall spud webb (if he ever existed) vs the current 5'7 spud webb, then probably the 7 feet tall spud webb will win.

Here is ultimate question, does it really matter if they do (What do you gain by stating they do? all I see it as is trying to impose self limiting beliefs onto others, it will not improve anyones game and especially not yours) Sure you can train blah blah (I already do) and wear nicer clothes etc. But dude ur in every looks thread spouting same stuff I feel like I'm back on the bodybuilding misc, seriously quit. You should read some of Tylers posts, He made best post i've read about looks ever not long ago and everything he said resonated with me. The way you state it is NO THEY MATTER you don't state shit about improvement at all, Tyler does even does say yeh you should take care of yourself have pride in your hygeine personal image nothing wrong with that at all. But beyond that they really will not make much of a difference once you dress nicely take care of yourself etc, and I for one believe they don't because i've seen it.
Before I continue responding.  Answer me this.

1.  Your life time approaches
2.  Your Lay Count
3.  How many times you go out a night
4.  How many sets do you open a night
5.  Post a picture of yourself.

Looks matter, they can be compensated by great game, but looks still matter.  Finding one ugly guy with a hot girl, does not prove anything.  He may have really good game, he may have a really big penis, he may have status, there are other factors.   Why wouldnt looks matter?  Looks is a predictor of genetic fitness.  We are programmed to seek mates with the healthiest genes.  Would you want a girl with bad skin, falling patches of hair, bad acne, and asymetrical body parts??  No!

You cant change your facial structures but you can change a lot of other things.  I didn't want to fall into the typical Asian stereotype of being shy and not dominant.  What did i do to fix that?  4 years of bodybuilding and a lot of kino practice.
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