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#41
Tezer

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Join Date: 01/14/2011 | Posts: 973

hahaha i thought it was about time you would use the "i'll kill him" line. I told you how it went for me last weekend and the girl really wanted to knock my lights out!

Can't wait for this week's shenanigans to kick off
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#42
RearWindow

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This is what going out feels like, I'm patiently going through the motions, waiting for results, I am having fun whilst its happening though.
 


West-End Bar Solo Wednesday 18th January
Cost: £3 Coat check

Tried going to s student place which turned out to be in a uni, I go to enter anyway, bouncer tries act smart saying its a student night, unless you a student you cant get it...bitch it ain't a student only night..straight people go to gay parades and christians are allowed in a mosque..dumb fuck. [Im planning on making a fake student card anyway, get in cheaper]

Anyway, walk around some more and find a Bar £3 entry, seems somewhat busy so I go in
7s everywhere, maybe one 8 some puerto rican girl, maybe 7.5 instead

any way do 3 rapid fire approaches the second I walk in, no choding straight approach blowout, blowout, blowout, go toilet, go to get a drink, talk to some girl, american, i move on, approach german chic has boyfriend, another american, i move on, so cute face american approaches me, i touch her body she feels like a bean bag so i just chill and let her amuse me, I see a tall blonde, 7.2-7.5 I high five her grab her hand wrap it around my should hug her, blah blah, she says im sorry im here on a girls night.. whateva...One last scan nothing... look at the girl who works by the door, cute but a fatty so nope!.. see hot girl in smoking area, so put coat on, walk outside, check her out, shes hot

Me: [Breaking tonality] Are you american? are you american? american, american american, you're american?
Her: (Looking at me like a lamb) No, Im italian
Me: ahh cool, can you speak english
Her + Chode shes with: No, giggles
Me: even better [I grab her hand pull her in and wrap other hand around her waist and go for an embrace
Her: giggles
Chode: hey, what are you doing
Me: are you two together
Chode: yes
Me: oh my bad, [I high five the girl the chode tries push my hand out the way, I do it again and she high fives me, chode is unhappy)

I walk around to find another bar, 3 hot japanese woman walk past me, one gives me eye contact, but i don't do anything, (grr.. i was upset about that, you never know, she might've taken me home if i had approached her)

Thats it, went out did my approaches...I was chill and zen the entire time, no intent, cus the girls didn't inspire me much. thats probably why I got so many blowouts, well actually the puerto rican girl was hot i picked her up span her n all but nothing..

Didn't want to go out, went gym earlier felt completely zapped out of energy but did it, and had fun.
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RearWindow

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West-End Club Thursday 19th January
Cost: £0.00

Tonights thoughts: Am I being too picky...or are there just no hot girls in London..Even on OKCupid, when I put my location to new york FUCK ME hotties everywhere!! then back to london and mehh, ordinary below standard.
I remeber asking Andre~ "where are the hot girls, where the fuck are they, there are alot of people out tonight, why arn't the hot girls out tonight, what the fuck is happening, we need to find out where the hot girls go"

I think the reason alot of approach don't click or are blowouts is because deep down im not turned on by them, I don't actually want to fuck them, the girls probably sense this and therefore I get a blowout.

So, how do i fix this problem... look for new clubs, next week ima hit up Camden and Shordetich, lots of students and young people there, its farther away, but you gotta make sacrifices to grow.

So I did some approaches not sure how maybe 7 they were all 7s except one who was 8

Not knowing what to say is a serious issue...or i feel like it is.. I never know what to say..I can't seem to sustain a lengthy convo with a chic..the only way to fix this is to keep approaching and trying it.

I also get alot of I can't here what your saying, so need to keep talking louder, its strange cus i can always hear the girls.

Also eye contant is another thing i need to work on, after watching tylers video of that black girl pull, he is doing the same stuff im doing, and Andre mentioned its all in the eye contact, thats when i realised i NEVER make eye contact. That needs to be executed.


Lessons/Sticking points
-Find new venues
-Speak LOUDER A LOT LOUDER, FKIN SCREAM AT GIRLS
-Make eye contact, make very strong eye contact, take a real mans blowout, give the girls my soul and get blown out...to summarise: Make eye contact
-Do lots of dance floor approaches, this feels like a sticking point to me, itl get me to practise grinding and speaking louder, I can't grow unless I push myself into uncomfortable situations
-I still have that voice inside my head telling me theres no point of approaching blah blah blah, need to monitor this voice and recorrect it to say, lets go and see what might happen
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Sounds like you've got some nice goals there. The talking loud thing is great because if you have a strong voice it conveys confidence, authority and status. Just like the boss or a King or GOD!

Eye contact is amazing too. There is much said about women picking up on stuff about men through their eyes, but the same goes the other way round. Look out for stuff like dilated pupils it usually idicates they're interested in you and they're focus is directed upon you. That or they're on drugs.
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Matt. wrote:
 Bingo - from about 3 mins in, but the whole thing is good:





Thanks, right place at the right time, this post couldn't have been more valuable.

So New game plan:
-Eye Contact
-Dance Floor
-Speak obnoxiously LOUD
-Continue the Physical Game
-Makeouts
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#46
Tezer

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yh dude, the triangular gaze is the shit; you know you're doing it right when your brain freaks out and tells you "STOP, you're being too sexual!"

Lately i've just been holding awesome eye contact minus the TRIANGULAR GAZE/RAPE STARE because i don't want to be called out on it. Fuck that, just do it anyway, a girl can't hate on you for doing something non-verbal, and if she does say something, be like "well, you should stop being so sexy then..."
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 West-End & Kensington Club Friday 20 January

Went to the west end club, it was empty so headed to the kensington club

Tonight focused on making eye contact
It felt like every approach was friend to friend, didn't quite know how to spark the man to woman approach...wierd, 

About 8 approaches tonight, didnt really build up any momentum, didn't throw myself fully into any interaction, maybe i didn't get a man to woman response because I didn't go fully intent on any girl, but to be fair only one girl was a hottie. (because there were no hotties not because im scared of approaching hotties) 

I think i may have pussed out of one interaction and called it quits too soon, but i do remeber thinking her face isnt that nice during the approach, and thinking about bailing, but afterwards i would stare at her long body and think hmm maybe that was a mistake..but i don't know, her face was meh and she had a flat chest.

Me and Andre wanted to do some street approaches, i got quite nervous, when he mentioned this. Also around 1.30am some girls walked past us down the street, high heels long legs, didn't approach but should've, my excuse was they are chavs, but you cant know this unless you approach.

After reading Andres post, thought id right up some more:

The nightclub we headed back to was more upclass, only 30-40 people, and all the girls were really tall and looked smoking from afar cus of the dark lighting. This didn't intimidate me at all, went straight for the frist hotty in my vacinity, she was taller than me in her heels, grab her shoulder, turn her around, embrace and you're gorgeous simple like always "The 1,2,3" then i let go of her and started the strong eye contact, and grab her hands tried putting them around me but she wouldnt let me, continued talking and strong eye contact, after some dialogue she says so you having a good time, i eject with nice to meet you.

Approach some other chic strong eye contact again she was tall my hieght maybe taller, again, high five, embrace, eye contact, blah blah, she is drunk, this turns me off, i go for makeout anyway, she moves away, some more fluff and i eject.

another tall blonde walks past and sits down, i think ah il wait till she stands up, but then catch myself being a and go, high five, (she seems tired and slighty irritable)
Me; stand up
Her: no
Me: (breaking rapport) STAND UP
Her: (freaked out) No, (then giggles)
Me: (I sit down, but i freaked myself out a little by screaming, and eject cus i was in a approval seeking mindset and i was thinking err...i should i say...)

Tonight i wasn't having fun, I was approaching but it wasn't fun more like a chore, i doubt at any point i was feeling good, or happy, I may have laughed here and there but generally i was in a mellow thumb up my arse kind of mood.

Tonight I got 2 makeout rejections.

I am going to actively encorporate eye contact until next saturday, and I'l post up my conclusions.
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West-End Club Saturday 21 January

Walked in club alone, chilled, Andre~ n his friend came 10mins later,
Did my first approach, cute girl 7, i high five her
Me: Stand up (gay tonality)
Her: no
Me: come on stand up
Her: No
Me: if you don't stand up ima turn into the fkin hulk
Her: (something couldn't hear)
I just walked us, but noticed one of her friends grinning at me, I just moved on

I felt really shit, took 2 paracetamols and 2 ibuprofens beofre leaving the house, even thought to myself, maybe ill leave early..

second approach, really hot girl 8-9 tan skin dark hair, she was "phat" i think its called, i call it big boned..
It went well, even though i was reluctant to do it, but i know better than not to approach now.
I hugged her, holding hands, i got token resistance after a while she was more receptive, forgot to do the eye contact thing, convo got awkward, for me atleast, i didn't know what to say, went to pick her up but she was "phat" big boned, so could manage to do it quickly enough and she let out a little giggly scream, which i mimiced for my own amusement, then i left, say ill see you again alice...
Argh annoying it was going good n i ejected.
[I forgot to do the eye contact and funny dialogue:
Her: where you from
Me: I was raised in London
Her: thats not true you have an accent
Me: you bein racist you bein racist (breaking tonality)
Worked at treat, got her laughing]

Blond swedish 8
Really loud in the club, could hardly hear anything, i was very physical, embraced her, she put her arms around me even though she was carrying her coat and purse, got really awkward at least for me when i didn't know what to say and we couldnt hear one another, i just did alot of strong eye contact with her during these awkward moments i pulled her away from her friends, token resistance, shouted just one sec just one sec, pulled her away a bit, grabbed her face, she said makeout? and kiss held on and got a two sec makeout then her friends ran in and took her away.

the rest of the night were just blowouts about 14 approaches.

We left club around 3.45am, as we walked back to my car andre~ did a street approach, it good that he did this, cus its very likely to get a lay this way as its the end of the night, it could definantly happen, I was a bit unhappy with myself that i didn't do it, damn social conditioning telling me you shouldnt talk to strangers on the street, it was good to see this to alter my belief system, cus the girls were very receptive to andre

Funny Shit
Some rich chodes booked a booth and bought bottles, lots of girls were coming to them during the night, drinking their drinks and ect.. they thought they were pimps there was a lot of hovering hand of doom behind the lower back going on, and at the end of the night it was just them two alone in their booth fidling with their phones.
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#49
Tezer

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yo, if you ever feel like ejecting or the situation just DOESN'T seem manageable at the time, remember to try number close.

It's something i forgot to do last night. Even when the number doesn't seem solid because of the interaction it's good to get into the practice of it, so you're sorted if something unexpected happens like the girl getting whisked away by friends meaning you miss out on closing.
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Andre~ wrote:
yo, if you ever feel like ejecting or the situation just DOESN'T seem manageable at the time, remember to try number close.
Its more about me than her, i feel awkward for all i know she might be thinking, "ooh this cute guy is talking to me i hope i dont fuck this up" i need to welcome these awkward pauses, i need to stop ejecting at the first sign of resitance, like tyler does in his video, chic is saying "you're all up in my space" tyler, just staring at her.

Also, i agree with the number thing, so far iv only asked two girls for the number
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