THE FORUMS
Hi,
I won't do my own review, I'll just add some points to this one. Hopefully Jeffy and Tyler will see this.
I agree with the above review of Hotseat. I, however, did not put up my hand as advanced. But I am close
Jeffy gave it his all for the very long duration and I thank him for that. I have heard some of these comments many times, and he still says it like he is saying it for the first time. He is funny. He is also what the community needs, because I feel you should mix Tylers intellectual approach (which as logical men i guess most of us geeks side with) with Jeffys ruthless manly behaviour (which I think most geeks are not comfortable with - many up geeky pussys)
The videos explained the steps well, and Jeffy said the intermediates wont be surprised about what they are seeing. He was right, I was not. What i took from it, is no more excuses, they are doing what I do, so allow yourself to beast. But where were the hot girls?
i would be disappointed if I had not seen the tyler bit - this one was the only real bit with cute girls in. The girls Jeffy was talking to were average to low, and not who I'd want to speak to even after 2 years or approaching, let alone 10. I hate to say it, but Alex's pick up WAS POINTELSS TO WATCH. He was drunk and bumbling through, i took some points, yes, thanks Jeffy. But damn, this didn't help at a point where I was thinking "not another 7" - and his style was like a drunk guy on tiger tiger with persitence but some social calibre.
I knew Jeffy was saying he was trying to get points across, not videos of cute girls, but are you saying after a year of filming you didnt get a good point to show with a cute girl? As intermediates we need to see this working on cute girls - and this is EXACTLY what will be required for this free project Tyler is working on (Foundations2) to prove it works. Otherwise fuck, you can just rely on numbers game using NO game to get these girls
So Tylers bit - have to say had cuter girls and finally made it worth it (for what I was looking for). This bit really will in time help me bring my game from a 9.5 to a 10, as Jeffy put it.
A great event, exactly what I needed to be honest. £180 to confirm I am nearly there, no more excuses, and just beast
For the next event - if there is one, please more evidence of this working on hot girls. the tyler shit was what the advanced people needed to see
Many thanks!! Great event and Jeffy put his all into it, cheers dude
I won't do my own review, I'll just add some points to this one. Hopefully Jeffy and Tyler will see this.
I agree with the above review of Hotseat. I, however, did not put up my hand as advanced. But I am close
Jeffy gave it his all for the very long duration and I thank him for that. I have heard some of these comments many times, and he still says it like he is saying it for the first time. He is funny. He is also what the community needs, because I feel you should mix Tylers intellectual approach (which as logical men i guess most of us geeks side with) with Jeffys ruthless manly behaviour (which I think most geeks are not comfortable with - many up geeky pussys)
The videos explained the steps well, and Jeffy said the intermediates wont be surprised about what they are seeing. He was right, I was not. What i took from it, is no more excuses, they are doing what I do, so allow yourself to beast. But where were the hot girls?
i would be disappointed if I had not seen the tyler bit - this one was the only real bit with cute girls in. The girls Jeffy was talking to were average to low, and not who I'd want to speak to even after 2 years or approaching, let alone 10. I hate to say it, but Alex's pick up WAS POINTELSS TO WATCH. He was drunk and bumbling through, i took some points, yes, thanks Jeffy. But damn, this didn't help at a point where I was thinking "not another 7" - and his style was like a drunk guy on tiger tiger with persitence but some social calibre.
I knew Jeffy was saying he was trying to get points across, not videos of cute girls, but are you saying after a year of filming you didnt get a good point to show with a cute girl? As intermediates we need to see this working on cute girls - and this is EXACTLY what will be required for this free project Tyler is working on (Foundations2) to prove it works. Otherwise fuck, you can just rely on numbers game using NO game to get these girls
So Tylers bit - have to say had cuter girls and finally made it worth it (for what I was looking for). This bit really will in time help me bring my game from a 9.5 to a 10, as Jeffy put it.
A great event, exactly what I needed to be honest. £180 to confirm I am nearly there, no more excuses, and just beast
For the next event - if there is one, please more evidence of this working on hot girls. the tyler shit was what the advanced people needed to see
Many thanks!! Great event and Jeffy put his all into it, cheers dude
Thanks for the feedback -- always good when advanced guys got value and recommend it overall. ;) Totally agree that Jeff's performance is out of control. He used to perform this bizarre artsy rockshow type thing back in the day before RSD and when you combine that with years of gaming, the energy and hilarity he puts out there is so fucken insane.
As far as my content -- I was blessed to record my Hot Seat in Hollywood (where I live), but also New York City, Miami South Beach, Phoenix, and San Diego. :) These are the cities with the most dolled up women in the USA and that's why we dropped the cash to travel me and my team there to record.
I used to show Jeff's content back when I did Hot Seat and many of the girls I liked a lot (daughter of Robocop was my fav actually -- but everyone has their own preferences) -- but yeah he took initiative to record on his own without us travelling him anywhere, in San Francisco which has a rep for being the city with the least hotties in the States. But actually that's not really true at all, rather the liberal culture brow beats the girls for dolling themselves up because it's "snobby and superficial" so they're just dressed more plain (they're the same when they're naked and having sex with you, but they're not going to load up the make-up or blowdry their hair or rock a tight dress or wear high heels).
Regardless what I personally focus on in Jeff's events is just the slickness of what he can do in the field. For example I love his daygame clip with he bangs that Chloe girl he meets in the park (she's a cutie -- again though dressed plain -- I like how she's intelligent which SF is known for as well). The fact Jeff is able to walk into a park and just barrage this girl with silly thing after silly thing to get her attention, structure the meet and quickly have sex is very cool to me. When I think back to how I used to fantasize about doing this back in the day -- like walking into a park and seeing a cute girl and pummeling her with awesomeness and meeting and fucking -- this type of shit gets me psyched up.
I also found that clip with the British girl to be very helpful in the sense that I literally copied it and went out the same night and yanked an extremely hot Russian girl by simply replicating what he did. I liked how he was able to build a connection with her and yet NEVER FULLY VALIDATE the girl. It's like he's "nice" to her but always has a wall where if she wants his validation she'll have to have sex. There's something in Jeff's vocal tonality that conveys "dickhead" and beautifully contrasts against the fact he's escalating and being nice. Again my taste in women is pretty spoiled from living in the snobbiest cities on the planet, but just copying exactly what Jeff does in there significantly improved my results -- and that is just blunt feedback of what I got from it. ;)
The main thing I'd say I've gotten from Jeff's videos is just his swag in general. Full irreverence. Full self amused. Full sex addict at the same time so his intent is always very high. He's in HIS movie, like Kenny Powers from the show Eastbound & Down (watch this if you haven't seen it). I'm naturally an overly nice guy so learning to take on these qualities has improved my results very noticeably. There's so many bits and peices in what he does that an experienced guy can take on board, which I like because there's really not that many places we can go at this point (honestly I mostly just learn from the personalities of cool people these days).
Anyway thought that might help you to think more about what you got out of your experience, and thanks for the honest review and your perspective as a guy who is advanced and already seen a lot -- it's also cool to hear that Jeff ran it extra late, which I think was appropriate since London came out and so strongly supported the event.
Psyched you got value from the Tyler videos as well. ;) Would you believe it if I told you they were so-so compared to where my game is at right now as I'm typing this. They were by far the best I could do about three months ago, but I've been going out nearly every single night since that time and the whole principle of "Your best becomes your average within a few months..." has definitely taken effect. I remember when I recorded those I watched them and shivers went down my spine at how much progress I could see I've made compared to the first Hot Seat (haha arrogant but whatever I worked my ass off...). But just hammering it out it's gotten better and better to the point where shit has been pretty epic lately. I want to keep focusing on this area until I'm 35 and just see how far I can take it -- and yes, I plan to keep recording although I'll likely be too busy to personally teach the event as I have these past two years.
Hit up a follow up to let us know what improvements you gained in a few weeks or months. There's going to be bits and peices that make a different for you even at an advanced level. Thanks again and have fun! :)
Tyler
As far as my content -- I was blessed to record my Hot Seat in Hollywood (where I live), but also New York City, Miami South Beach, Phoenix, and San Diego. :) These are the cities with the most dolled up women in the USA and that's why we dropped the cash to travel me and my team there to record.
I used to show Jeff's content back when I did Hot Seat and many of the girls I liked a lot (daughter of Robocop was my fav actually -- but everyone has their own preferences) -- but yeah he took initiative to record on his own without us travelling him anywhere, in San Francisco which has a rep for being the city with the least hotties in the States. But actually that's not really true at all, rather the liberal culture brow beats the girls for dolling themselves up because it's "snobby and superficial" so they're just dressed more plain (they're the same when they're naked and having sex with you, but they're not going to load up the make-up or blowdry their hair or rock a tight dress or wear high heels).
Regardless what I personally focus on in Jeff's events is just the slickness of what he can do in the field. For example I love his daygame clip with he bangs that Chloe girl he meets in the park (she's a cutie -- again though dressed plain -- I like how she's intelligent which SF is known for as well). The fact Jeff is able to walk into a park and just barrage this girl with silly thing after silly thing to get her attention, structure the meet and quickly have sex is very cool to me. When I think back to how I used to fantasize about doing this back in the day -- like walking into a park and seeing a cute girl and pummeling her with awesomeness and meeting and fucking -- this type of shit gets me psyched up.
I also found that clip with the British girl to be very helpful in the sense that I literally copied it and went out the same night and yanked an extremely hot Russian girl by simply replicating what he did. I liked how he was able to build a connection with her and yet NEVER FULLY VALIDATE the girl. It's like he's "nice" to her but always has a wall where if she wants his validation she'll have to have sex. There's something in Jeff's vocal tonality that conveys "dickhead" and beautifully contrasts against the fact he's escalating and being nice. Again my taste in women is pretty spoiled from living in the snobbiest cities on the planet, but just copying exactly what Jeff does in there significantly improved my results -- and that is just blunt feedback of what I got from it. ;)
The main thing I'd say I've gotten from Jeff's videos is just his swag in general. Full irreverence. Full self amused. Full sex addict at the same time so his intent is always very high. He's in HIS movie, like Kenny Powers from the show Eastbound & Down (watch this if you haven't seen it). I'm naturally an overly nice guy so learning to take on these qualities has improved my results very noticeably. There's so many bits and peices in what he does that an experienced guy can take on board, which I like because there's really not that many places we can go at this point (honestly I mostly just learn from the personalities of cool people these days).
Anyway thought that might help you to think more about what you got out of your experience, and thanks for the honest review and your perspective as a guy who is advanced and already seen a lot -- it's also cool to hear that Jeff ran it extra late, which I think was appropriate since London came out and so strongly supported the event.
Psyched you got value from the Tyler videos as well. ;) Would you believe it if I told you they were so-so compared to where my game is at right now as I'm typing this. They were by far the best I could do about three months ago, but I've been going out nearly every single night since that time and the whole principle of "Your best becomes your average within a few months..." has definitely taken effect. I remember when I recorded those I watched them and shivers went down my spine at how much progress I could see I've made compared to the first Hot Seat (haha arrogant but whatever I worked my ass off...). But just hammering it out it's gotten better and better to the point where shit has been pretty epic lately. I want to keep focusing on this area until I'm 35 and just see how far I can take it -- and yes, I plan to keep recording although I'll likely be too busy to personally teach the event as I have these past two years.
Hit up a follow up to let us know what improvements you gained in a few weeks or months. There's going to be bits and peices that make a different for you even at an advanced level. Thanks again and have fun! :)
Tyler
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i think you guys have all helped a few of us get to a very high standard. I deem many articles, in particular Tylers, on the RSDnation to be pushing to the next steps (the others are usually more grounded - core confidence, escalating, etc). What us high end people are desiring is the examples with difficult situations - AMOG buff guys, bitchy girls, strippers where you cant escalate in the venue, bar staff with only a few minutes max to chat, etc
The reason for this is because at the moment I feel there is a cap. I can talk to moving hot girls in club situations but what about the above advanced situations. You guys have bought us to this level, we want to advance further. It will also help RSD because you want to show it works for the hottest girls
I know the same principles apply and I am aware of what they are. But the hotseat is designed to visually see what you know. And tylers bit helped me with that, but the others didn't. I guess I am after the really challenging situations, and for most people that would be less learning (if they are more novice) and more entertaining. But food for thought. Guess its hard to film in these situations, stripper venues etc, but I'm floating the request out for tyler to help us advanced guys in the future
My notes from a high intermediate standard:
Regardless, go through the escalation ladder while talking - hand shake spin, fingerlock, grab and spin, slow dance, nick bite
Ignore all friends, particularly guys just standing next to you awkward. Don't even ask who he is. If they are set to come in and interrupt, find out quickly
To get bar staff just say you are gonna kiss girls in front of her and then get her number
Build rapport by holding her, rocking back and forth and chatting. Always close distance - basically never let go
When AMOG comes in don't be "unreactive", just short answers and let him burn out (evil stifler video), then isolate. Cool quiet, show this guy is bringing no value
Some girls will NEVER SHOW INTEREST even all the way to pull - regardless, execute the program
Open - "you... you know how to party" grab her hand, pull her in, emotionless smile and relaxed
Say your a harmless geek, a big idiot. Almost like not meaning to offend, playing around. No ego
The reason for this is because at the moment I feel there is a cap. I can talk to moving hot girls in club situations but what about the above advanced situations. You guys have bought us to this level, we want to advance further. It will also help RSD because you want to show it works for the hottest girls
I know the same principles apply and I am aware of what they are. But the hotseat is designed to visually see what you know. And tylers bit helped me with that, but the others didn't. I guess I am after the really challenging situations, and for most people that would be less learning (if they are more novice) and more entertaining. But food for thought. Guess its hard to film in these situations, stripper venues etc, but I'm floating the request out for tyler to help us advanced guys in the future
My notes from a high intermediate standard:
Regardless, go through the escalation ladder while talking - hand shake spin, fingerlock, grab and spin, slow dance, nick bite
Ignore all friends, particularly guys just standing next to you awkward. Don't even ask who he is. If they are set to come in and interrupt, find out quickly
To get bar staff just say you are gonna kiss girls in front of her and then get her number
Build rapport by holding her, rocking back and forth and chatting. Always close distance - basically never let go
When AMOG comes in don't be "unreactive", just short answers and let him burn out (evil stifler video), then isolate. Cool quiet, show this guy is bringing no value
Some girls will NEVER SHOW INTEREST even all the way to pull - regardless, execute the program
Open - "you... you know how to party" grab her hand, pull her in, emotionless smile and relaxed
Say your a harmless geek, a big idiot. Almost like not meaning to offend, playing around. No ego
Also, the night isn't over until you decide (jesus, tyler literally keeps storming set to set doing well at like 3am)
Cool yeah I'll take that into consideration for sure. :)
I liked the style of how Jeff handles the AMOG in the British girl set where he's like "Mullet! Business in the front party in the back!!" and Jeff just quickly dispenses of him. Not complicated, just gets it done. I think Jeff also has the sort of presence where even though he's 5'7 people don't generally fuck with him, and he's mostly focused on getting laid as much as he can so goes with what works.
I'm a hardcore game nerd so social dynamics is as interesting to me as the "final result" whereas Jeff likes the game too but is a hardcord sex addict. I'm so into this that I would risk death for the sake of learning more about the game (which is stupid and I need to fix this now that I have kids...) That's where the more advanced and weirder stuff comes in, whereas Jeff knows the advanced stuff but mostly focuses on what gets him laid. ;)
IME Jeff's is a unique event that's rare and won't happen again any time soon, and you're learning from a guy whose style is unique and has really profound key peices you can swagger jack for yourself. It's at an inexpensive pricepoint it's a one time thing -- so you can take the value and soak in Jeff's energy and experience as a teacher -- and then when Papa rolls through London with my more "advanced game nerd" style Hot Seat in the future you may want to take the value from that as well. We do videos and live events that are DIFFERENT from eachother to keep it fresh and so you can take various angles while staying immersed in all this, which makes it more fun and helps you internalize it over time. :)
Super appreciate the comments about the effort we've put into the videos on the front page btw. I put a lot of effort into those and have a lot of great stuff coming that I think you'll enjoy. You're going to see a few key peices from that front page stuff in the next six months that will do amazing things for you.
Tyler
I liked the style of how Jeff handles the AMOG in the British girl set where he's like "Mullet! Business in the front party in the back!!" and Jeff just quickly dispenses of him. Not complicated, just gets it done. I think Jeff also has the sort of presence where even though he's 5'7 people don't generally fuck with him, and he's mostly focused on getting laid as much as he can so goes with what works.
I'm a hardcore game nerd so social dynamics is as interesting to me as the "final result" whereas Jeff likes the game too but is a hardcord sex addict. I'm so into this that I would risk death for the sake of learning more about the game (which is stupid and I need to fix this now that I have kids...) That's where the more advanced and weirder stuff comes in, whereas Jeff knows the advanced stuff but mostly focuses on what gets him laid. ;)
IME Jeff's is a unique event that's rare and won't happen again any time soon, and you're learning from a guy whose style is unique and has really profound key peices you can swagger jack for yourself. It's at an inexpensive pricepoint it's a one time thing -- so you can take the value and soak in Jeff's energy and experience as a teacher -- and then when Papa rolls through London with my more "advanced game nerd" style Hot Seat in the future you may want to take the value from that as well. We do videos and live events that are DIFFERENT from eachother to keep it fresh and so you can take various angles while staying immersed in all this, which makes it more fun and helps you internalize it over time. :)
Super appreciate the comments about the effort we've put into the videos on the front page btw. I put a lot of effort into those and have a lot of great stuff coming that I think you'll enjoy. You're going to see a few key peices from that front page stuff in the next six months that will do amazing things for you.
Tyler
i think you guys have all helped a few of us get to a very high standard. I deem many articles, in particular Tylers, on the RSDnation to be pushing to the next steps (the others are usually more grounded - core confidence, escalating, etc). What us high end people are desiring is the examples with difficult situations - AMOG buff guys, bitchy girls, strippers where you cant escalate in the venue, bar staff with only a few minutes max to chat, etc
The reason for this is because at the moment I feel there is a cap. I can talk to moving hot girls in club situations but what about the above advanced situations. You guys have bought us to this level, we want to advance further. It will also help RSD because you want to show it works for the hottest girls
I know the same principles apply and I am aware of what they are. But the hotseat is designed to visually see what you know. And tylers bit helped me with that, but the others didn't. I guess I am after the really challenging situations, and for most people that would be less learning (if they are more novice) and more entertaining. But food for thought. Guess its hard to film in these situations, stripper venues etc, but I'm floating the request out for tyler to help us advanced guys in the future
My notes from a high intermediate standard:
Regardless, go through the escalation ladder while talking - hand shake spin, fingerlock, grab and spin, slow dance, nick bite
Ignore all friends, particularly guys just standing next to you awkward. Don't even ask who he is. If they are set to come in and interrupt, find out quickly
To get bar staff just say you are gonna kiss girls in front of her and then get her number
Build rapport by holding her, rocking back and forth and chatting. Always close distance - basically never let go
When AMOG comes in don't be "unreactive", just short answers and let him burn out (evil stifler video), then isolate. Cool quiet, show this guy is bringing no value
Some girls will NEVER SHOW INTEREST even all the way to pull - regardless, execute the program
Open - "you... you know how to party" grab her hand, pull her in, emotionless smile and relaxed
Say your a harmless geek, a big idiot. Almost like not meaning to offend, playing around. No ego
The reason for this is because at the moment I feel there is a cap. I can talk to moving hot girls in club situations but what about the above advanced situations. You guys have bought us to this level, we want to advance further. It will also help RSD because you want to show it works for the hottest girls
I know the same principles apply and I am aware of what they are. But the hotseat is designed to visually see what you know. And tylers bit helped me with that, but the others didn't. I guess I am after the really challenging situations, and for most people that would be less learning (if they are more novice) and more entertaining. But food for thought. Guess its hard to film in these situations, stripper venues etc, but I'm floating the request out for tyler to help us advanced guys in the future
My notes from a high intermediate standard:
Regardless, go through the escalation ladder while talking - hand shake spin, fingerlock, grab and spin, slow dance, nick bite
Ignore all friends, particularly guys just standing next to you awkward. Don't even ask who he is. If they are set to come in and interrupt, find out quickly
To get bar staff just say you are gonna kiss girls in front of her and then get her number
Build rapport by holding her, rocking back and forth and chatting. Always close distance - basically never let go
When AMOG comes in don't be "unreactive", just short answers and let him burn out (evil stifler video), then isolate. Cool quiet, show this guy is bringing no value
Some girls will NEVER SHOW INTEREST even all the way to pull - regardless, execute the program
Open - "you... you know how to party" grab her hand, pull her in, emotionless smile and relaxed
Say your a harmless geek, a big idiot. Almost like not meaning to offend, playing around. No ego
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Yes please, we want more. If you do one every month I will sign a 12 month contract and set up direct debit on my bank account haha! I will market it as well. I will call it the event of the millenium and get you 100 subscriptions from the members of our "grandma's basement" =))
I understand this one was special. Thanks to Jeffy (I still haven't processed how this guy stays in state the entire event and gives it as much energy at the very end, as he was giving at the openning! He's a machine!) but even with somebody else as the host, the value you get from the footage alone is priceless.
Once again I really appreciate how hard it must have been to shoot these. To get the cameras and mikes through the door security in a club that's frequented by celebs, ouch, then shoot the whole fucking thing in secrecy from open to close in a ridiculously chaotic environment, where people are bumping into you, spilling drinks, you gotta keep the girl in good light even with night vision, plus even in isolation you've got to be at a place where the camera man can get a good angle... total headache! And that's why we've never seen anything with this level of quality and quantity from anyone else and likely we won't see anytime soon.
Thank you again. Please do another one soon!
I understand this one was special. Thanks to Jeffy (I still haven't processed how this guy stays in state the entire event and gives it as much energy at the very end, as he was giving at the openning! He's a machine!) but even with somebody else as the host, the value you get from the footage alone is priceless.
Once again I really appreciate how hard it must have been to shoot these. To get the cameras and mikes through the door security in a club that's frequented by celebs, ouch, then shoot the whole fucking thing in secrecy from open to close in a ridiculously chaotic environment, where people are bumping into you, spilling drinks, you gotta keep the girl in good light even with night vision, plus even in isolation you've got to be at a place where the camera man can get a good angle... total headache! And that's why we've never seen anything with this level of quality and quantity from anyone else and likely we won't see anytime soon.
Thank you again. Please do another one soon!
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- I'm here just to share who I am. And if there's only one person on this forum who benefits from my rants, it's worth the time put in it.
- Value your struggle. You don't know what you have. Once you're able to go to the most exclusive venue in town, on your own, dressed like shit, tired from work, exhausted from the gym, on Tue night... and still pull a dime piece... the game gets little boring.
- Stop asking questions here, aim to go out 7 nights a week, workout, meditate, live life on the edge and read Ozzie's book. Then come back and share what you learnt.
- Nobody here talks about heartbroken stalker girls, threatening pissed off boy friends, chlamidia... What universe are you guys living in???
- Jeffy has 9 balls... and a book that's pretty damn good.
- Used to be a product of human society for way too long. It's time for human society to be the product of me.
- Consumerism turns people into soulless asexual robots. I, on the other hand, like to fuck (with) real human beings.
- HOW TO BECOME THE MAN: www.rsdnation.com/node/202332
- haha you read it? you suck!
- Value your struggle. You don't know what you have. Once you're able to go to the most exclusive venue in town, on your own, dressed like shit, tired from work, exhausted from the gym, on Tue night... and still pull a dime piece... the game gets little boring.
- Stop asking questions here, aim to go out 7 nights a week, workout, meditate, live life on the edge and read Ozzie's book. Then come back and share what you learnt.
- Nobody here talks about heartbroken stalker girls, threatening pissed off boy friends, chlamidia... What universe are you guys living in???
- Jeffy has 9 balls... and a book that's pretty damn good.
- Used to be a product of human society for way too long. It's time for human society to be the product of me.
- Consumerism turns people into soulless asexual robots. I, on the other hand, like to fuck (with) real human beings.
- HOW TO BECOME THE MAN: www.rsdnation.com/node/202332
- haha you read it? you suck!
*Going out recording me plowing thru 10 fatties until I find one who wanna fuck*, Im also recording it all, in 2 months Ill do my own hotseat, Im gonna get rich!
Just kidding ;)
Just kidding ;)
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I support the notion of talking to hotter chicks for the next Hotseat! Or at least don't show the hideous ones, like the librarian Jeffy pulls from internet game. There might not be too much learned from pulling a chick like that.
Or maybe call the event "Hideousseat", ha ha!
However, all in all I would say the looks of the girls shown is medium, not ugly. There are quite ugly ones like Jeffy's librarian or the chick Brad is talking to, but also really hot ones, like Jeffy's "Drunk Maria" or his "Robocop girl". Tyler's girls have smoking bodies and average faces, IMO. Some of the girl's faces you can hardly see anyways. However, it's all highly subjective, as we all know.
Or maybe call the event "Hideousseat", ha ha!
However, all in all I would say the looks of the girls shown is medium, not ugly. There are quite ugly ones like Jeffy's librarian or the chick Brad is talking to, but also really hot ones, like Jeffy's "Drunk Maria" or his "Robocop girl". Tyler's girls have smoking bodies and average faces, IMO. Some of the girl's faces you can hardly see anyways. However, it's all highly subjective, as we all know.
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"If it's not rough, it is not fun!" - Lady Gaga, Philosopher
Doctor's Diary - my Field Reports live from Vienna: http://www.rsdnation.com/node/200128/forum
I'm starting to regret starting this thread. Please don't post about ugly chicks any more. It's true most of them are not super hotties. But how about focusing on the enormous effort that went into this thing. Also do you realize this is the first time in human history when you are able to see a genuine pick up from start to finish? I mean one that doens't invlove a money transaction! Think about it, ever since Lumiere invented the motion picture camera in 1895 this is the first time in history that the pickup theory and technology have advanced so much we can actually watch this shit and analyse it! Unless you've actually done it yourself countless times there was absolutelly no way for the average follow to ever know what an actual pickup looks like. Let alone what made it work. Think what you have now! If you were born just couple years earlier you would be fucked! Twenty years ago there was no internet forums, no night-vision mini digital camcoders with precision microfones and most importantly NO GUYS TEACHING this stuff. Unless you developed this skill naturally that was it. Chode for life!!! Seriously rsdnation if you miss this when it comes to your town you're going to regret it.
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- I'm here just to share who I am. And if there's only one person on this forum who benefits from my rants, it's worth the time put in it.
- Value your struggle. You don't know what you have. Once you're able to go to the most exclusive venue in town, on your own, dressed like shit, tired from work, exhausted from the gym, on Tue night... and still pull a dime piece... the game gets little boring.
- Stop asking questions here, aim to go out 7 nights a week, workout, meditate, live life on the edge and read Ozzie's book. Then come back and share what you learnt.
- Nobody here talks about heartbroken stalker girls, threatening pissed off boy friends, chlamidia... What universe are you guys living in???
- Jeffy has 9 balls... and a book that's pretty damn good.
- Used to be a product of human society for way too long. It's time for human society to be the product of me.
- Consumerism turns people into soulless asexual robots. I, on the other hand, like to fuck (with) real human beings.
- HOW TO BECOME THE MAN: www.rsdnation.com/node/202332
- haha you read it? you suck!
- Value your struggle. You don't know what you have. Once you're able to go to the most exclusive venue in town, on your own, dressed like shit, tired from work, exhausted from the gym, on Tue night... and still pull a dime piece... the game gets little boring.
- Stop asking questions here, aim to go out 7 nights a week, workout, meditate, live life on the edge and read Ozzie's book. Then come back and share what you learnt.
- Nobody here talks about heartbroken stalker girls, threatening pissed off boy friends, chlamidia... What universe are you guys living in???
- Jeffy has 9 balls... and a book that's pretty damn good.
- Used to be a product of human society for way too long. It's time for human society to be the product of me.
- Consumerism turns people into soulless asexual robots. I, on the other hand, like to fuck (with) real human beings.
- HOW TO BECOME THE MAN: www.rsdnation.com/node/202332
- haha you read it? you suck!
Yeah, man, that's totally on spot there! I have (with my honest opinion) hyped the Hot Seat enough, you can read this in my thread "Munich: Hotseat Times, Jeffy Times!" So I just made a point here in all coolness.
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"Failure is caused by unwillingness to adapt!"
"If it's not rough, it is not fun!" - Lady Gaga, Philosopher
Doctor's Diary - my Field Reports live from Vienna: http://www.rsdnation.com/node/200128/forum
"If it's not rough, it is not fun!" - Lady Gaga, Philosopher
Doctor's Diary - my Field Reports live from Vienna: http://www.rsdnation.com/node/200128/forum
Rocco Siffredi
Respected Member
Join Date: 06/10/2011 | Posts: 407
First of all, back in June, I hit a plateau. Broke up with LTR too. Needed some serious boost in motivation and for some reason I thought a bootcamp was a good idea. "Finally seeing how the pros do it." Sounds like a legit reason, right?
I arrived to Stockholm all excited with a list of specific sticking points I needed to fix. Expecting to see awesome demos, instrcturs making out with the hottest girls in the bar, watching my every move, taking care of the fat friend, defusing her date, mocking the amogs, getting detailed refinements on each approach so I can tweak the next one...
Aaaaaand..... naah. Sorry but I didn't feel like I got what I paid for. Overhyped shit. Disappointment.
Don't get me wrong, wasn't a complete disaster. Got few tips out of it alright. But did I get the answers to my specific sticking points? No. Did I see the intructurs to do something I've never done myself? No. Was it worth two grand? No. Was it worth half the money? No. Was it worth at least 500 bucks? Yeah...maybe. I honestly believe if you are past approach anxiety and going out regurarly, bootcamp is not worth it. And the biggest blow of all was finding out that even the arguably best pros in the world who charge huge amounts for teaching this are not that much better then me. It kinda depressed me to a point where I stopped going out for a good part of summer...
Fast forward end of September, hot seat is coming to London, missed the last one, they say it was good, it's reasonably priced comparing to a bootcamp, oh wait it's Jeffy!!! Watched the triler with few seconds of Tyler yelling "NO VIOLENCE!!" in something that appeared like a fight breaking out outside a club. Awesome, I'm sold! Clicking "sign up".
Let's see how the pros do it!!!
First of all, Jeffy's performence is breath taking. You can tell his stand up routine has been refined to an absolute perfection by more then a decade of public speaking (I actually recognized one joke from way back in the day when he and Chessclub used to teach about threesomes with strippers haha!). His punch lines are always on the spot, the improv shit he comes up with is completelly spontaneous and natural. On top of that this mother fucker basically doesn't shut up during the entire program. It's ten hours of Jeff's hillarious rants. You're just laughing all day. Even if the information wasn't that good, as a ten hour comedy show it would still be worth the money.
The structure of what you actually learn on the event is very simple. But extremelly potent at the same time. Those few key principles which have crystalized over the years are repeatedly hammered down until they become hard wired into your physiology. I know it sounds cheesy but it's the truth. Jeff is a very dedicated teacher and he's not kidding when he says he gives 110%. You can tell Jeff lives for this shit.
First part was all Jeffy nightgame. First getting blown out in the beggining of the night before he warms up. This has been one of the most valuable things to me. Seeing that even somebody who does this for living still sucks at 9pm! And how he deals with it and uses it ... Eye-openning. The rest is still him, except this time he's pulling! Good shit.
Second part was Jeffy at festivals and parks. No street game. Explanation: Apparently a moving target during the day is the hardest set. Personally I disagree. This hasn't been my experience at all. High risk sure, but high reward too! Instant date, grab a coffee, either a solid number or bounce to the bar for few drinks and pull home.
Anyway... the festival videos had a good point. Just go there and behave like it's a fucking club. Doesn't matter it's broad day light. Chicks are in the same headspace as during the night.
Third part is other instructors night game. Where's Ozzie? Wanna see Ozzie! Wasn't impressed with Alex (yeah it was a pull, but the chick wasn't worth it. I'm not a native speaker and if I had to plow through a 20 minute monolog in a screaming club before I get a 7 to invest anything!!! I mean anything!!! this would fucking burn me out seriously. I would just go home and have a wank. probably have a better time too). Evil Stiffler is smooth as fuck but he was trying to pick up my mom. I don't appreciate that. Brad is in NY with Tyler trying to pick up a fat cunt (only funny coz Tyler had the mike so he has to litterally hang onto Brad while he's gaming to get the audio). All right I get it - Jeffy explained in the beggining of the program, those vids have been picked to drive specific points home, so some of the chicks aren't that hot or whatever. But seriosly, few times I though: damn, no surprise I'm not getting laid as much as I want. Gotta lower the bar. Some of these chicks wouldn't even pop on my radar as "HBs". No seriously everybody knows Jeff's low standards and high sex drive. It's expected we will see all kinds, shapes, ranks and sizes but what the fuck are the other dudes doing? If there was one thing I would like to see improved in the next hot seat, it's hotter bitches. And I know others who attended agree.
Who certainly didn't disappoint was Tyler. I had my doubts about him prior to this event, but man, wasn't this like an extension to blueprint?! Like everything he talks about there, he just goes out and demonstrates. Intent, unreactive, core confidence, state from within, it's all there. There's a long video of his entire night and it's just epic. After he loses his girl in front of the club to a Russian mafia dude and his three "gorillas", he goes on a rampage! The fury's unleashed! Grabs what appears to be a really hot latina (we never get to see the face but the body's solid 9) and just walks her home. While she's being a fucking terrifying satan bitch - shit testing the entire time! He just positively dominates her ass all the way to the door. This is the eye-openning shit I've come for. This is the goodies! YES!!! I finally understand. Thank you.
Btw I have a great idea for the next program. It's called "How to make your woman have your babies and still let you bang other chicks". I know it's disputable what he actully does to those poor girls when the door shuts behind them, he never kisses a girl on camera and if he actually knobs them after he pulls them home, or if he's a good boy, tugs them in, kisses them on the forehead and crawls up on the couch, we will never find out. But honestly who gives a fuck. None of my business. He's got this masculine polarity that pulls and I'm grateful I've finally seen it in action. Thank you RSD!
The event was supposed to finish around 10pm, but we stayed until like past 1am doing few excercises that look stupid at first but get you into an unstifled talkative state really quickly. Money! After that I have no time to hang around for the Q&A session. I'm hitting the club with two other dudes to "execute the fucking program". Oh what girl do I go for? The hottest! How am I supposed to go in? Hard! How do I escallate? Fast! How do you walk the dog? One step at a time! How long from open to pull? 45 minutes! Text book
Fuck yeah, back in the saddle baby! Thank you RSD, absolutelly amazing event!!! Anyone who's reading, sing up now!!!
P.S. I wanna see more footage! I wanna see the old hot seat too! What do I do?
- Value your struggle. You don't know what you have. Once you're able to go to the most exclusive venue in town, on your own, dressed like shit, tired from work, exhausted from the gym, on Tue night... and still pull a dime piece... the game gets little boring.
- Stop asking questions here, aim to go out 7 nights a week, workout, meditate, live life on the edge and read Ozzie's book. Then come back and share what you learnt.
- Nobody here talks about heartbroken stalker girls, threatening pissed off boy friends, chlamidia... What universe are you guys living in???
- Jeffy has 9 balls... and a book that's pretty damn good.
- Used to be a product of human society for way too long. It's time for human society to be the product of me.
- Consumerism turns people into soulless asexual robots. I, on the other hand, like to fuck (with) real human beings.
- HOW TO BECOME THE MAN: www.rsdnation.com/node/202332
- haha you read it? you suck!