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Dr Feelgood

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I'm here in Budapest from Thursday till Saturday with Presence.

I'm sick from going out almost non stop for the last 3 weeks or so.. Coughing, with a cold, blowing my nose, I'm done with. I wouldn't advice any girl to make out with me, because she will get a whole zoo of germs into her system. Actually had an intense makeout yesterday in the club, the girl almost bit off my tongue, and who knows how she is doing today healthwise... I couldn't get her back to the hotel with me though.

After stumbling around bars in Budapest we finally found a venue that looked pretty good, it was full of students. Budapest girls are very pretty too. Had two awesome interactions going that really seemed to go to some cool place (= my hotel room maybe), but when they were asking for my age and I told them the truth, it was suddenly over (they were 18 and 21). Had a discussion with Presence about this, of course he tells me just to lie, but I don't want to. I'm fully aware that it would help my game, but one of the most important things in life is staying true to your own standards, and I have decided I'm just not gonna lie about my age. I wouldn't have any hesitations to take the batteries out of a girls cell phone though, for example (which seems like a big deal to him).

Presence, of course, is awesome, and he gave me a lot of feedback again, much of which is written down already in my "general plan" post above. He gave me a speach about eye contact, which I thought I had had down already, but seems like this sticking point comes back as soon as I scratch it off the list... 85% of his advice is spot on to me, but the other 15% I'm just not gonna apply. Like I said in my other post, I know myself and my game the best, and ultimately it's my responsibility and decision what to implement. Implementing and re-tuning the wrong things will send me on a totally wrong path. Other than that, calibration (move back when she does), and too much validation off the opener, like I knew, is the problem. He also said I'm too "gamey", and I see his point, but that's the old and main problem about game in general: Walking the fine line between being too gamey and too chodey. THAT, in my opinion, is what game is all about. I just need a couple of lines to get things going and to put me into the right headspace, I'm not gonna let those girls exclusively talk to the chode part of my personality. I asked Prsence what would be the difference between a good gamer and a chode then, and he answered: "Chodes don't approach!"

At leaving the club, some taxi driver tries to scam us again by telling us a very high price, so Presence shouts at him and swings his dick on him in the street. The guy comes after him, we move on. As all the other drivers have witnessed his scene, we have to move on to another street and I'm taking over the negotiations about price... Rolling with Presence is fun...

So two more nights here in Budapest, today we are gonna go to the "island". There are supposedly some of the prettiest girls in the world to be found there, but they are also girls with the highest bitch shields you can possibly think of. After Sunday, I'm going on a break for several weeks. I just want to relax and step back for a moment, then in 2012 go even faster.

Cheers, my party people!
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#42
ChinaBoy~

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 Feelgood...were such fanboys...going to another city just go hang out with S. hahaha

Budapest...I am soooo jelly. The pornstar city of Europe.

What advice did you got on EC? I think it would be beneficial also to me :)

Break for several weeks? What´s this pussy shit doctor feelgood? Sorry, i am just a bit too excited, cuz going out in like 1 hour :)

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I always have to tell Presence two times about how my night went: One time when we come home at night, and another time the next morning, because he was so drunk he has forgotten absolutely everything I told him. Dude might as well stay at home and have me tell him a story about what happened to him on the next day. Now, let's tell it again on the forum:

So if you ever come to Budapest, don't go on the "party island"! We had set after set basically motioning us with a handwave to get lost or turning their backs on us. I think it had a lot to do with the fact that girls didn't speak any English. Seems to be more lower social class party whores there who can't bring out a word of this noble language. We went to Dokk, Pink and later me to Coro Cafe too, same experience everywhere, all in all maybe 30 blowouts combined for the both of us. In the end I got a good reaction from one girl and was so surprised I didn't know how to continue...

Then the night seperated Presence and me, I went on to Creol Bar, it was much better there, at least many girls spoke some English. A couple of conversations, still language barriers sometimes, no success. At 4 a.m. I went on to the club next door, I believe the name is "Ödgers". Oh, this club was packed with stunners, Budapest girls are so hot! The only time I have ever fallen in love collectively with a female population so far is Poland, but this is really good here too. IMO definitely better than Prague or Bratislava. Met some 45 year old stunner, 15 years ago this girl must have been a clear 10 to everybody. After 5 minutes she tells me she knows a cool afterhours bar, if I want to go there with her. I play it cool and make a couple of minutes more talk before I agree. She mentions she likes the casinos, plays Poker, etc., I say I play Poker too, we have to play Strip Poker some time; she smiles and says yes. We take a taxi to that bar, I pay the ridiculously low fee (900 Forint, which is 3 Euros) and tell her she can invite me for a drink inside. At the door (Bar is called "Piaf", all with velvet and a piano player) she wants me to pay here entrance fee too, she says "You are not a gentleman!". Ha ha, how I love that line! I ask her "What kind of girl are you? Are you working for this venue?". After some discussion I think it over, reframe it as a misunderstanding and pay for her. Reason being that apart from this money thing she seemed to be genuine and above all it was a low price of 1000 Forint (3 Euros). I want to see what happens and learn. Whattcha gonna lose...?

Inside she calls her friend, who is at the venue, of course with her (friends) husband, she introduces me to them, we start small talk. Fuck that, I'm not gonna deal with that shit, I leave. I really wonder what this was all about. Seemed like she was interrested on some level, and tricking me into paying 6 Euros seems a bit ridiculous for a 45 year old business woman. I wonder if I could have taken her home had I dealt with her friends for some time. Thoughts on this by experienced folks are appreciated!

On the street at 5 a.m., I meet 2 girls. We get into a non-sexual, non-threatening convo for 20 minutes, they live nearby my hotel. They want to take the tram and show me how to get to my place, so I go with them. I have a certain level of attraction with them. It's clear I'm interrested in the more attractive one, the other one has a good body but very ugly face, and I end up getting cock blocked by her 100 meters (300 feet) from the entrance to the hotel. I just shout "Afterparty! Afterparty!" at them, as learned from Presence... The more attractive one is up, but the other one doesn't want to be left out and cockblocks in a friendly way. I'm not even sure if Presence would fuck her, also I'm not sure if this dude is peacefully at sleep in the hotel right now, licking ice cream off a girls pussy, still out in the street, or maybe already floating down the Danube with his face up. After a while I let it be and wish them a good night.

So the last scheduled day of sarging for 2012 for me is today. Let's see what we can do there...
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#44
Dr Feelgood

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Chinabeast: Eyecontact, we just practiced it a bit, you can practice it with anybody, male or female. Everything you say is totally believable with eyecontact, no matter the level of bullshit...!

I wish you a successfull night out!
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Just came home from Budapest. Was rolling with Presence for the last night yesterday, but we arrived at the venue seperately, and also went home and sarged seperatedly for the most time. We were at "Morrison 2" for the whole night, I can recommend it. This club is built like a dungeon, a dungeon of the dancemasters! I was expecting a dragon to come around the corner every second, maybe in the form of a fat girl (with wings)!

I did A LOT of sets, probably the most I have ever done in a single venue, at least 20, probably 25, maybe even over 30, all while being genuine and not putting on a "shtick". Anybody can put on a mask and collect their 30 blowouts, but to constantly stay on the small line between being too chodey and too gamey takes something more. This all comes down to my old theory:

The more AA --------> the more calibration (= realness)
The less AA ---------> the less calibration (=more shtick)

The formula to walk the small path in between those two areas, is, of course, state! I also explain that thought in this post: http://www.rsdnation.com/node/204135/forum

The night started out with me being massively in my head at 1:30 a.m. still, while Presence was already making out with his chick. A ton of AA. I do some warm up set with a dude, like I often do it - most guys are happy to talk to you. Then I force myself to start it off, the first girl is sooo cute and sooo friendly, touching me and all smiles. Take phone number, text 3 hours later, no reply. I'm starting to get into the groove. A couple of blowouts, some good conversations, some grinding and neck kissing, sometimes language problems. Much later, on the patio, a very cute girl with very bad English skills, but she still doesn't run away. I babble some shit, I give kino, still no resistance to be seen, I drag her downstairs into the dungeon and onto the dancefloor (note to myself: Evelyn, small, dark haired). We grind and I spin her, I kiss her throat, I give her the trinity of closeness, silence and eyecontact. Then the eyes-mouth-eyes gaze and my patented: "I wonder how it would feel if we kissed right now!", whispered (shouted...) into her ear sensually. She resists, I'm going for the make out 8 OR 9 TIMES, she resists every time, but still stays, laughs and enjoys the interaction. Wow! I have no idea what to do, I get more aggressive to escalate her out of the set, but I'm somewhat hesitant and she still stays. I go for a push, tell her to leave, give her a half spin and send her on her way. She doesn't really move. Finally at some point it fizzles out, she says she has to go. Not sure what I should have done there. Presence says she was probably going for validation, so I should have removed all validation from her.

Anyways, I'm rewarded for this large amount of well-calibrated approaches by gaining MASSIVE micro momentum. I can't be arsed with too many not-so-important details, but the Boner-o-meter was getting hard a lot of the time. I think this device is also a good measurement for how well an approach is going. Does it feel good, homie?

At one point a girl was totally ignoring me (no eyecontact, she will probably never know what I look like), and I just kept on plowing for fun and made the 3 set (including the target) and also myself crack up. At 5 a.m., in an almost empty venue, I told myself: "Last set of the year!", went in, spit my charm and isolated from the two set within minutes onto the dancefloor for grinding (but the KC was still a no go). Incredible what momentum can do for you!

So no makeout that night, but I still had a blast! I love being authentic. I love genuine interactions with women. I (almost) love blowouts. I empathize with the girls, they have to look for a quick way to get rid of you! Hell, what would YOU do if you were wearing a miniskirt and one douchebag after the other one came up to you with his boring and predictable shit? Make yourself stand out, bro!

Now I will go on a break till probably January 5th, or January 12th at the very latest. Then my LA trip is to follow soon. I have really hit this shit hard over the last months and I'm soooo happy with my progress, I will post my end-of-the-year resume within the next days, so you can see the details of where I'm coming from. Still, I feel like there are too many nights in which I haven't pushed this shit to the max. A night with 5 approaches is for losers, but I still have that frequently, and going that way, it takes way too much time to learn!

The next steps, beginning in Jan 2012, are:

- Making the basic program more automatic
- Mixed sets and seated sets
- Day game

It will be in that order. I only go on to the next level once I feel I have somewhat mastered the current one. It's a bit like Super Mario Bros!

I might have a date next week and might game on New Years Eve. Other than that, be on the lookout for my next field report in 2012!
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Mad calibration dude. Hahaha, I am uncalibrated, maybe 3-5x for the kiss and then the girl leaves. But 8-9 times and still stays that´s awesome!

Wow, didn´t knew that you don´t do mixed and seat sets at all.

Dr Feelgood wrote:


The more AA --------> the more calibration (= realness)
The less AA ---------> the less calibration (=more shtick)
By that you mean instructors who have little AA or maybe zero that they are not real?

I think they are real. After so many experiences, blowouts, they just don´t care.

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ChinaBoy~ wrote:
Mad calibration dude. Hahaha, I am uncalibrated, maybe 3-5x for the kiss and then the girl leaves. But 8-9 times and still stays that´s awesome!

Wow, didn´t knew that you don´t do mixed and seat sets at all.





Dr Feelgood wrote:


The more AA --------> the more calibration (= realness)
The less AA ---------> the less calibration (=more shtick)
By that you mean instructors who have little AA or maybe zero that they are not real?

I think they are real. After so many experiences, blowouts, they just don´t care.

ChinaBoy
8-9 times is not awesome, it's confusing! Why would she let me do all of that to her and still not kiss me? 4-5 times was also the maximum so far for me. This is why I put so much emphasis on that particular set in my FR.

My theory is just a fragment so far, it's not full blown, but it's accurate! Instructors have learned to walk the small line in the middle of those two zones, they have found the sweet spot through constant practice. And yeah, you know on which extreme side of this scale you are! :)

Also, you can get away very well without doing mixed sets, if you go to big venues (in Brno maybe not).
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I'm on my PU break, and oh, I had totally forgotten how good a close-to-normal rhythm of life feels. Like, getting out of bed on a Sunday before 1 p.m.? Nice! Meeting a normal non-community friend in the evening just for a drink? Chodes rule! I want to spend my Saturday evenings with the girlfriend in front of a TV show! Or quietly masturbating!

Anyways, the break feels healthy. 2011 increased my game by about 2 billion percent (not difficult, because I didn't have any!), and this is how it all went down chronologically:


END OF THE YEAR RESUME 2011:

May: Started out with all the theory someone could ever know in the back of my head (which helps me a great deal to analyze interactions), but also (almost) without having ever cold approached a girl; pushed myself to go out alone to make it a bit more difficult for me; I would only be allowed to look for wings once I was able to somehow approach. Being very nervous before going out, I can't get myself to talk to any girl for the first couple of nights. Then I get lucky: Some uglier girl starts talking to me. This gets me to losen up a bit, I do two approaches or so that night. I start to approach when going out, a handfull of approaches maximum per night.

June: Keep on approaching. In late June, go to Prague and Warsaw with my close friend Joey from LA, who has never heard of the community but is good with girls. I feel more confident with him by my side, and also approach more. I learn to just let my mouth run, to make conversation, and some witty lines are coming out too, which I immedeately implement into my canned lines stock (which builds up better and better, I always use it till they are hooked). Many adventures in Prague and Warsaw. Charming a girl I could have easily made out with, (but wasn't calibrated well enough to see the signs), while my friend Joey fucks some gangleaders girlfriend in the hotel room (her friends tell me: "But it's ok if you are only here for 3 more days, he is in prison for 6 more months anyways!"). On the last day of our trip dragging some girls from one venue to the other one in pouring rain and getting the first cold approach make out of my life. Damn, I'm going into the right direction!

July: More of a quiet month, I don't go out much, but I get to know my first wings. Some of them are cool guys, many are more concerned with social circle game and some are too much into MM for my taste. Anyways, going out with somebody else makes it a lot easier.

August: Keep on approaching, getting more experience under my belt, trying out many wings. I have two or three interactions where the girl is dreamy eyed and clearly waiting for me to go in for the kiss, still I keep on waiting for the perfect moment till they run off because of inexperience and sexual anxiety. I have an issue with pulling the trigger, I need to go in for the makeout! Damn, these girls were horny!

September: Going to Munich for one week for the Freetour and Hotseat. I spend almost a full week there, going out every day, meeting some cool guys (wings for a week) and also Alex and above all Jeffy! He is a totally cool guy, not like the über-tough persona he impersonates online, I have some really nice chats with him. When I discover the guys are doing bootcamp in the same venue as me one night, this gives me a huge boost. On the night before hotseat, I have my first SNL. I can't help but tell Jeffy about it the next day... I arrive at Hotseat totally relaxed and happy as pie after a night of fucking. Back at home, I have a boost of motivation, I keep on approaching more and my calibration gets better and better.

Oktober: I find two great wings, Terminator and Naturalito! By now I never have to go out alone, there is always some wing available. I start to get makeouts very, very consistently, it feels good to stick your tongue down the throat of a girl you have never seen before! I have a 30 second instant makeout, this is only possible with good calibration. I have also found the best clubs in Vienna by now, my favorites are Platzhirsch and Volksgarten, and I know which venues to avoid. I get to know an awesome girl one night at Volksgarten, KC, but don't try to pull her for fear of losing her. Of course I fuck up the date because I'm way too needy. It hurts a bit.

November: Go on a trip to Berlin and Barcelona, but not much success there. Going out alone in places I don't know lets me get inside my head a lot and Berlin is dead on a Sunday or Monday too. I feel like I have arrived on some kind of plateau. Anyways, I'm having fun and meeting a lot of great people! At home again with my wings, I need two weeks to blast through my plateau hard! On a night that feels like everything is possible, I pull my second SNL (an HB9 to me). I'm too needy in the morning though, and she is never to be heard of again. I have some nights with massive amounts of approaches, many makeouts with cute (and some not so cute) girls.

December: I get to know Presence, a top PUA who rolls with Owen every weekend. He reminds me of some important stuff and I also see the mindset with which top guys are rolling. Don't take shit from anybody is a key message! I go out with Presence, Chinabeast and my wings in Vienna, then I blast through Budapest with Presence! I can feel my sense of entitlement growing almost physically!

There you have it, my pick up calender! You can check out many of these stories in detail on my blog and in my Field Report thread. I'm very happy with what I have accomplished in 2011, but it's only the beginning. I plan on going even harder next year!

I'm over and out for now.

Take care and may your 2012 be awesome and filled with wet pussy!
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I'm back, bitches!!!

Took a one month break, but starting with tonight, I'm ready to rock again! I'm quoting myself below to remind myself of the stuff that is needed now, the stuff that will bring me to the next level. The first couple of nights, I want to focus on executing these principles. After that, I want to implement the push as soon as I get attraction; I'm not really doing this right now.

So during my "break" there was still something happening:

1. Had two dates with a 21 year old, a bit on the heavier side, but very cute. Brought her back to my appartment and made out with her two days before Christmas, but couldn't lay her. She said someting about "not being ready yet" and it was difficult enough to even get to the makeout session. I told her I wasn't looking for a relationship though, and she didn't seem to mind. So because I was really sure it would go down this time, I went on a second date with her - as an absolute exception, I have hardly done one date and never two since I started cold approaching! I couldn't even bring her back to my place the this time though. WTF!? Why does she agree to meet me again but doesn't want anything to go down? This confused me and I was also a bit pissed for having gone on two dates like a little pussy. I also felt sorry for her, because she is working a shitty job, her mom is in an abusive relationship with an alcoholic and doesn't support her in any way, and on top of all of that her dad got MS. Of course, feeling sorry didn't stop me from escalating, and I did many things right on that first date (we went bowling, then to a bar closer to my place, then to my place, played poker for a bit, etc.). Anyways, over and out.

2. Went out on New Years Eve with Chinabeast and a couple of other guys. Although there is a LOT going on in Vienna on NYE, there were almost no sets out there. No sets on a huge square crowded with people so you can hardly move? Strange shit. This was my first NYE with some game, so I had high expectations, but in the end it was close to a normal night at the club which we went to in the end - it was Elysium, looking like a dungeon with candles and all, nice! I had two noteable sets:

A 7 from Germany sat down on some chest next to me, I started gaming her really well, banter, testing her compliance with kino, after 15 min. taking her by the hand and leading to the bar, buying some water for me, drinking it with her, slow dancing close and also some kind of strange waltz (hey, we invented the waltz in Vienna, he he!), then I just put my hand underneath her chin and lifted it and kissed her. Then pressed her against the bar making out for some time, etc.. Then she saw the male friend she had come with and excused herself. I wonder if I could have done anything there to bring her home (it's called a homerun!).

The other one was some tall blonde 8, and it was going extremely well, we had chemistry and she started bringing up sexual topics which I fully took up on ("What's your favorite position?", "So you like to be dominated?"). Then her friend came in and cockblocked me HARD. It was one of these annoying CBs where the girl comes in totally on a mission, almost ignores you while you try introducing yourself to her, drags her friend in close and just drags her away. I definitely should have reapproached though, this is probably the non-reapproached set I regret most since having started cold approach! Do it better next time, bro! I really have to reapproach A LOT more.

Tonight, I'm actually feeling a bit nervous for the first time in many month before going out. Also, I might have to go alone tonight, and haven't done that either in a long time.

On another note, there were over 170 clicks on this thread after my last post was written, but nobody commented. I wonder who you guys are, SHOW YOURSELF, MOTHERFUCKERS!

Also, I will be in Los Angeles (Hollywood) from Feb 8th - 28th, so if you want to sarge a bit, let me know!


Dr Feelgood wrote:
This is the general direction, probably for the next couple of months; with that done, I feel like I should have a good basic concept to work with. Will print this out to be able to have a constant sheet of reference:

1.) I VALIDATE WAY TOO MUCH WAY TOO SOON:

- Tonality
- Body Language
- Leaning in (me tall, her tiny, doesn't matter, motion her to come closer)
- Kino (no arm around her during the opener any more! no touching during the opener!)
- Verbally:  Implement the push ("go away!")
- Keep (upper) body steady!

Key question: How would George Clooney act around these women?

2.) CALIBRATION:

- She moves back, you move back (physically or mentally - "I'm just a guy in a bar!")

3.) APPROACH ANXIETY:

- Way of the chode:
Sees girl -----> Hesitation -----> Approach

- Way of the player:
Sees girl -----> Approach

I probably approach more than most people on this forum, but there were certain occasions where I have procrastinated forever, sometimes even pussied out. This is not acceptable any more. THE THOUGHT PROCESS BETWEEN SEEING HER AND APPROACHING MUST BE CUT OUT.

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 Keep up the good work, there you go, I made a comment :P
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