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Katalyst

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Join Date: 05/16/2008 | Posts: 614

I'm supposed to be sleeping as i have to be up in four hours and haven't meditated yet but fuck it YOLO…

I've had one of the "darkest" weeks I've ever had since I've started the going out every day challenge and in game period. It's not even that DARK but fuck it's been some weird confusing shit. I've been talking to people like Haze and UtopiaFive about it and today I did a shitload of reading articles on self-esteem vs. ego that Brad and Tyler talk about. I've also been sleeping a lot more because it's some shit i just don't want to think about and would rather just fuckin avoid.... Who wants to go back up the mountain when your ego has already been like "but yea I'm already up there, I'm the shit, i'm already up there"......

It's been great that i haven't received any external validation from chicks this past week.... All my #s are flaking and I haven't pulled or made out with any chicks. Completely starved of validation. Completely. It's also forcing me to be pretty authentic. I really don't give a fuck in certain areas so I don't know why i wasn't just being super authentic in the past couple of weeks.

So basically my issue has to deal with ego and self-esteem/NEEDING chicks/people/environment to validate me.. In the past month or so it's really started to flare up now that I've been trying to actively walk away from chicks and create the PUSH. You can't create the PUSH if you aren't content w/yourself…..Even if you did that shit it wouldn't be fuckin congruent…...And holy shit it's smacking me in the fuckin face. It's gotten to the point where I've realized yo I've been going about this shit so wrong. I've just been taking a shit load of action but not taking the time to really actively study this womanizing craft.... Haven't really paid any attention to inner game shit. Just simply dismissed it as "medicine for pussies to realize they're normal".

The validation stems from me doing pickup to achieve some sense of higher self or significance. I was doing this shit to LOOK GOOD. not to FUCK but to LOOK GOOD.

Also, I've been running away from the old me. I realized this is why I don't even want to talk to chicks in my social circle or really getting to know chicks on a DEEP DEEP level. It's because I feel..... inadequate. I'm lacking true self-esteem. All my self-esteem previously was derived on how I was able to lose my viriginity due to my "picking up chicks" skillset and how i can shit on a lot of people with my outer game skills ....I never really addressed this issue but I remember this issue flaring up after banging a very quality chick back in April. Cutie who went to Columbia and then got her masters from Oxford. We had amazing chemistry but after i fucked her I got all weird and shit. Almost like uncomfortable. This issue happened w/the last chick I banged as well. It's like sometimes after sex I get all weird even though I'm present. It's not a performance issue either - it's more of a "o shit now you see the REAL ME NOW" kind of issue..

So how am i going to confront the old me. I've talked to haze and as89 about this for a couple of weeks now but haven't done anything.

1. I'm going to actively start talking to high-risk chicks. I'm not talking about the hot 9 at the club surrounded by cool looking dudes. that's not high-risk at all. that's so low-risk it's not even funny. High-risk is the cute 7 that you eye every day at work that you've been secretly been craving but been holding back on because you're scared that your coolness will drop. High-risk is hitting on your co-workers friend. This co-worker knows your game inside and out and she looks up to you because she thinks your such a suave player because you have given her such quality advice. if you fuck up w/the friend, DAMN you will LOOK stupid for some time but if you succeed well you just give yourself a nice pat on the back and move on w/life.

2. I'm going to write authentic love letters to chicks I used to really like or just have recently dated…… It doesn't make any sense for me to give my power away. But i'd just like to do it for the experience of leaning into my EDGE. Just because.... Write it w/no expectation of getting them back. And it goes against the whole validation issue but i want these letters to be so painfully authentic and honestly be written in a way that I DON'T get anything in return from them.

3. Stop talking about girls like it's some great pursuit to chodes. I've built up this rep/almost persona as a "skirt-chaser" and i need to eliminate it. Almost like I'm Berlusconi talking to his friends about bunga bunga parties or something. 

I have to be willing to look stupid. Yea i look stupid all the time but I want to be able to lean into MY edge. That's my edge talking to chicks in a social setting. It will be weird but fuck it - just go for it.

Well this is a huge focus for me as well now.... Inner game work. Got to figure out how to get it done every day. Start reading 30 minutes a day. Doing little things like keeping my room clean and all other kind of menial tasks bullshit.
I don't know how to go about this but I've started by ordering the six pillars of self-esteem book which is going to help. That alongside making sure my meditation is like really focused. Prolly up this to twice a day - 20 minutes in the evening and then finding a conference room at work and going in there and doing it for 10 minutes during the day..

This whole issue is making a book like radical honesty make so much more sense now that I'm re-reading it.... Things like that and meditation make so much more sense.

I expect the next couple of weeks to fuckin suck. I secretly hope I really suffer and don't get any validation so I'm just FORCED to draw state from within. I prolly won't suffer as much as I'd like to but that's the hope. I hope I just become unapologetic and never qualify. 

Maybe this post doesn't make any sense but I'll re-read and reflect in the morning...

I'm not meditating today btw - going to sleep.
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Katalyst

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Join Date: 05/16/2008 | Posts: 614

 Monday 06/18

I might be going thru some sort of internal pickup "crisis" and some state of confusion about who I am and what defines me but I have come to realize I do have some self-esteem. I look in the mirror and I do like what I see. I don't even know if that's self-esteem but whatever I'll figure it out soon…….So yes I still have a player ego but I'm honestly too busy w/other things in my life to really be sitting down and worrying about self-esteem vs. ego and my identity all day.

As I go about my day there's little things I notice that I do currently that I'll start eliminating - as in talking to random people just to feel good about myself and get validation, etc etc. I'll delve more into this at some other point but I got to go to sleep.

I honestly was expecting to be all down and really suffer from this realization and maybe the greatest suffering will come eventually but I think the fact that I want to be even more awesome so bad it's likely i'll turn blind spots into positives as I go through this self-acceptance and unapologetic phase.... As long as I keep taking action, I'll be fine. The macro-momentum I currently have probably hides all those ugly blindspots anyway even if i don't get any external validation that used to make me feel good about myself.

This validation thing is so important to me because I've seen people around me get really fucked up by it. I came into this game for CORE CONFIDENCE.

Feel some approach anxiety on the subway. It's the validation thing talking to me again. I'm not approaching because I want to look good... Eventually I get mad and start asking myself "Why do you give a fuck". I try to answer the questions in my brain but end up laughing at each response.

First I'm like "Well everyone is going to see me approach and then be like o look at that black guy talking to that chick….o god"

Then I ask myself "well why do you give a fuck about that?"

And I'm like "well i just don't want to be that guy"

then i repeat that question over and over and all my answers just sound so fuckin ridiculous...

I finally get some willpower and breathe deeply after literally hyperventilating to talk to this girl on the way back home but the way I go up is SOFT, inauthentic, with some EGO and I proceed to get a deserved blowout.  She wasn't even hot - I just did it to sort of stop being a little but then I start laughing because its ridiculous the kind of tricks your mind will play on you.

Basically I was having issues approaching because I wanted to look good.

Take a nap and then go out for a bit and run into some promoter dude on the street that I met a couple of months back.... Decide it would probably be smart to at least befriend these kind of guys instead of always beefing w/them and blatantly stealing their girls…Hang out w/promoter dude for awhile as hands me his bottle of Grey Goose. No thanks bud.

Ok so I'm more subdued than usual and it's because I'm kind of out of whack internally. Chll out for a bit. walk around n chode as I do so I accidentally knocked over a couple of glasses at some random promoter's table and I found myself just wanting to fuckin deck the for telling me to pick up the broken glasses. I was in that kind of dark mood initially... 

Approaching is pretty auto-pilot for me at this point so I do several approaches. I finally sort of hit a nice level of where I'm having fun at the end of my night. Flirt w/this Lebanese chick at some table for awhile but logistics don't work out so it's cool. The interaction had a good vibe to it and I did the right things - that's all that matters. Flirt w/some girls on the street, fuck around and tell people I'm Jesus as I'm having fun rolling around w/this random promoter guy and eventually call it a night...
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Katalyst

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Join Date: 05/16/2008 | Posts: 614

Just in general, the confidence has taken a dip. I have approach anxiety on the subway or during the day in general. I get blown out by 3 or 4 chicks at night and I'm like "fuckkk i'm having a bad night instead of just rolling w/the punches". Things will improve interally though. I just have to make a concerted effort to work on myself. It's just time isn't exactly my best friend so it's harder said than done but that's because I suck w/time management. Like really suck. I often ask myself why I'm going out - I really feel staying at home and reading self-esteem or radical honesty would just help me so much more at this point. But sometimes I tell myself that it's my mind playing tricks on me.

 Tuesday 06/19


I strained my calf at my soccer game today - I didn't even kno I was really fucked up until I got home and all the adrenaline wore off. I'm actually pretty scared on how long I'm going to be sidelined - i had some good momentum after playing 3-4 times a week for the past month and was starting to look sharp on the ball again...Fuck..

I looked ridiculous barely being able to walk to my neighborhood bar. But you know I want to get to the point where I'm ready to die to get better at this shit. I know the game is on some Zen shit and if you chase it too much you won't get it but I want to stay committed to the cause to the point where God is like "fuck this guy is serious - just give him core confidence around people and girls in general".

There's these 2 mediocre Asian girls. Chat them up. At first the vibe is really good and the buyer-seller dynamic is on-point. I think I feel the need to start to say some eccentric shit (her: what do you do? me: I'm a sexual predator) - i.e. spike the attraction and make things interesting and I eventually fuck the set up although it gets some laughs. I could have been the most boring bloke on the universe - that's all she needed. Sometimes I don't know why I have such difficulty keeping shit simple. It's some internal bullshit.

Wednesday 06/20

Hit up some cutie on the subway on the way back from work. Talk to her and vibe but don't get her #. My vibe is still off - something must be value-takerish about me. The homie can't get a whiff of external validation still. Good - i need to validate myself from within.

I honestly can't remember if i actually went out or not. If I did nothing happened.

I'm pretty sure I stayed home and read radical honesty.

Thursday 06/21

I eventually meet up w/my lesbian friend at our Thursday spot. I walk in and start talking to some chick sitting by herself on a couch. The vibe was off - I felt the need to convey value although she was pretty into me (i.e. nervous, shy, and quiet). I could have just been quiet as well but I feel the need to be talkative and convey value. Fuck up the set. Flirt w/a bunch of other sets but again - the belief is missing. This is sad considering I've been out so much but I'm still struggling w/the whole self-esteem/internal validation issue.

Friday 06/22

I go out in my neighborhood and hit up a bunch of chicks. Good sort of vibe but not much I can do. I only end up being out for half an hour and as I'm headed to the next spot - it starts pouring like no tomorrow so i decide to go home and sleep

Saturday 06/23

I head out to a trendy downtown hotel in Manhattan to meet up w/AS89. Get there he's not there - I'm like cool. I have sort of developed a wing dependency now that I've realized it's just so much more fun when you have a wing - even after going out solo for so long. I'm rolling up on chicks and I'm getting blown out left and right as I'm having a disaster of a night….. I decide to go somewhere else around 2 and as i'm leaving AS89 rolls up and he convinces me to stay around. I'm glad i did.

We start hitting chicks up and i'm already having fun and in a better mood now that AS89 is around. I see him hit shit up - it inspires me so I start to do like-wise and not give a fuck. My night started to turn when these two mediocre chicks were not giving me the light of the day so i hop right into a hottie and open her fuckin HARD. The wheels started to turn and I got into "state". I hit hit hit - I run into some Australian girl and get up in her grill. She seems to take an instant liking to me. She's got a slight Mediterranean look that I like. AS89 wings her blond friend for a bit. I'm a bit giddy (coming from a lower and validate me kind of place) and she tells me to slow down so I self-amusingly tell her I'm gonna meditate in her face. Eventually she runs off - I hit up other girls for awhile.

Eventually AS89 leaves around 3, which is baffling because it's 4th quarter time! Anywho, I go back and forth w/this Australian chick and she's giving me no compliance whatsoever - not allowing me to get physical, absolutely nothing. I run around but i realize she's my best bet to pull and the hottest so I chill out and play the patient card as something in me is like fuck it - stay in her vicinity and chill out. Dance around, chill out. Eventually she says she's leaving so I just follow her and her friend as they leave. We walk out the hotel and she and her friend ask whether she wants to stay so she has her friend leave…. I kinda stand there dumb-founded while they talk but I follow my chick back in.

Once her friend is gone, she seems way more compliant and finally starts to open up. It's 3:45 and the lights are starting to come on so we leave. She says she wants to go to another bar - i have to remind her that bars close at 4 in NYC. I suggest my place - that's a no go. We walk a couple of blocks and grab a bunch of soft drinks at the bodega. she pays for it. We head out a block and I realize I have no condoms so I let her wait outside and I go back and get some condoms. We keep walking from Meatpacking all the way to the really gay part of West Village/getting closer to Soho and just vibe and shit.

Mind you I'm still fucked up internally from these 2 weeks of self-esteem/ego bs I've been going thru and sort of stifled as we walk

So we're near her place and she's like ok i have to go now. I start to make out w/her for awhile and during romantic street corner times all these random gay people start harassing us calling us straight-ey. Wtf. She has me walk around w/her for a bit more putting up resistance and we literally walk 2 or 3 times around the same block. She keeps saying "you're not coming home w/me " then counters you're so much fun though...

Around 530 after more walkin around the block and all types of fucked up detours (it's a given that if i pull it's to her place) - she's like ok you can sleep on the couch. I tell her she better give me a blanket and tuck me in.

Get in n she makes me a gin n tonic as I take my sneakers off.

we hang out on her couch and she won't let me take my shirt off and is still giving me resistance. Eventually we go to her room. I climb into her bed, find a dildo - lol she's embarrassed. Fool around, still battling over a lot of resistance for an hour. holy shit - most guys would have said fuck this shit but this girl was fuckin cute - i was down for the kill!

Keep blasting thru resistance - Suck tits, finger her for a bit, she lets me put it in for 2 strokes then hops off. I get the vibe she either really likes me or has a bf. We argue whether 2 strokes in counts as a fuck or not. Just stupidity. At this point, I'm like fuck it so I just sort of embrace her in bed from behind. We talk - I'm damn honest about shit - i tell her about my self-esteem vs. ego issue I'm currently having at the moment and what not.

30 minutes later (like 8 am), she says fuck it and hops on and starts riding me. I come, she comes. We cuddle afterwards and she falls asleep while I just chill out.

I woke up and I felt so good/happy. So happy i persisted….. I was kinda bothered as to why I felt so damn good after the lay. I should just feel really happy about shit like all the time. It actually really really bothered me that I was so happy. But i guess it's good to feel really good about yourself after sex. But then again I should feel just as good after i bang out some shit. I leave her place around noon  and get her number...

This was a sloppy lay in terms of buyer-seller dynamic but right now I'm not going to bash myself. A win's a win - thank you very much let's have a coffee http://youtu.be/fB9rI7p7vmk


Sunday 06/24

I get home around 1am and i have to clean shit up as I'm showing my place to a couple of potential roomies…I finally decide on a roomie.... Looks like I'm rooming w/a chick. She's cute - it's gonna be hard to resist not just walking into her room and going "hey i need validation - let's fuck".

I'm pretty sleep-deprived and walking around like a zombie but I decide to head out to gay pride parade later than expected, do a few approaches - but it's actually pretty shit and i really don't feel like being at a festival solo so I decided to head back to my neighborhood. I didn't enjoy having that external validation aura so to fuck w/myself I put on some peacocky type beads that I have so I'd feel not so "entitled because i got laid the previous night".

At my neighborhood bar, I run into some girl I fucked a couple of months ago at the bar. I start talking to her - but it's inauthentic. I should have just been like "yo your was so good and tight - all i can do is think about banging you again" instead of trying to beat around the bush and bullshit like i was. Anyways, I felt a lot less cool w/the peacocky beads and started to seek validation again. I know this is some weird shit but it's a phase that I have to go through - just being centered no matter what.

Monday 06/25

I go out but I don't have the belief tonight and it shows as I'm talking too fast when I'm with chicks - kinda like the girl is going to run away or something….. Once again there's a decent vibe but the rhythm of the interaction is fucked up because I'm lacking the entitlement/self-esteem to just slow things down.

Tuesday 06/26

Head out in Brooklyn. Still feeling weird relating to chicks and the like. Rolling up and I'm all stuck in my head w/certain chicks. Eventually I get kind of obnoxious and I open this one girl on my way out. I start talking about how I don't have a wallet and am just self-amusing. She was kind of weird. She started reading my palm (she claimed to be a psychic) and going "you're fertile" - I was like "you only said that cuz I have a boner". She invites me to have a drink.

I chill out w/her, and her logistics are kinda fucked and I'd honestly rather read up on self-esteem so I just grab her # after making out w/her. 

Of course I don't even end up getting to read the damn book when I get home and just pass out. Fuckin hell!
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Ballgames

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Dude, that post about pushing and just sticking it out with that girl was AMAZING.

I learned a lot from that one. I loved how fucking persistent you were.

You're killin it dude. Love reading your shit.

I wouldn't worry about the small setbacks in internal shit etc... Those kinds of setbacks happen man... both in pickup and life... but in my experience, they are almost ALWAYS followed by a SERIOUSLY MASSIVE growth spurt and like ground breaking new shit. So I'ma keep reading and your shit and lookin out.

WHen I'm done with my challenge, I promise you we will be hitting it up together. Gotta get a handle of this on my own first though.

Appreciate your support in manwhore's forum.
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Katalyst

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Join Date: 05/16/2008 | Posts: 614

I'm starting to enjoy gaming again. I'm fighting the god damn urge to want to go out and have fun. Like as I type this every BONE in my body wants to go out but I have exercises/training/coding to do so I'm going to chill out. It's not that serious. it's just girls...I'm also limiting myself to 5 nights out a week from now on so I can read and do more inner game shit....While I take action action action I think my action would be more productive if I make it more focused... (Sundays and Mondays/Tuesdays off so I can Day 2 more AND hit up Wednesdays - Saturdays damn hard)…

This will probably not last long because I'm feeling crazy positive emotions right now and even when I was in my little external validation slump I still wanted to go out all the time..... It's got to be this damn fuckin green juice and all this action ive been taking...I'm out my slump!!!! But 5 nights a week while doing approaches here and there every day are healthy but I want to from now on go out and PLAY TO WIN EVERY single night that i'm out... Instead of doing a lot of mastubatory 20 minutes a night out..."

Wednesday 06/27

Run out w/my wing L before his Tyler BC.

meet up in meatpacking. We hit up a bunch of street sets. We're trying to get into this top venue so we bounce three girls over there. We didn't have enough value but we still lead. We get to the door and we get "shit-tested" by the doorman. Instead of being persistent I sort of lose it and say fuck it like a chode. Girls eventually say they're not with us. If we held our frame and stayed chill and relaxed we would have gotten in w/the girls.

Go a bit more downtown and I'm still bitching and moaning about not getting into the club... L tells me to put a tampon in my vagina and shut the fuck up - which is good cuz i was bitching and fretting un-necessarily. hallmarks of a good wing. they tell you the truth.

We bounce over more to the east side - not much to do. L wants to keep going - love this guy's hunger and persistence and we meet up w/a a 2 set. Afterwards he said he felt party dong - so i push him to go chase the 2 set a block away - they love he re-approached them after they walked a block and he # closes..


Thursday 06/28

Had approach anxiety during the daytime while going to and from work. sort of pathetic. why do you give a fuck Katalyst????

Get home - take a nap and wake up at 3:10 - its psychotic but i get to the bar at 3:30 - hit up some lesbian chick unknowingly and vibe w/her. It felt good to go out for 30 minus and i'm glad and i took action. Previously i would have beaten myself for waking up so late after a "nap" but I need to sop been a during the daytime

at night wake up at 3:10 - its psychotic but i get to the bar at 3:30 - hit up some lesbian chick unknowingly and talk to her. felt good that i went out and took action and i'm really learning myself to stop beating myself up - i'm only human and i need my rest.

Friday 06/29

no work today. felt lovely. Got loads done. laundry, did a shit load of coding (first time in weeks) and i felt so fuckin good. read branden's self-esteem - that shit takes forever because it's talking directly to me. also read a little bit of radical honesty.

head out solo in brooklyn.

go to some hipster party that's got that warehouse feel. this shit feels ridiculous. do tons of street sets and i'm witty and charismatic and just back to old witty Katalyst times. it's great. there was this one lesbian chick - god i love the bob cut and she was so fine. after awhile the hipsters make me sick and i head out to some other venue but it's turned out to be some kind of fucked up feeding frenzy so i say fuck it and head out to manhattan.

head out to downtown spot. hit up a bunch of shit. at first it goes meh then shit starts to click.

run into some hipster chick - entitlement and charisma is kind of low so i'm just honest and eventually we make -out. Run into some fit and tan Italian girl from London in a huge mixed set - rip her out..- she's very talkative. Bounce her around get water w/her and then roll out somewhere else. Run into another girl - who i'm not as authentic with but i figure time is on my side so i can just stick it. She wasn't the greatest and I didn't really like her so i say fuck it. this game will again and again remind you to go with the girls you want to fuck because you will stick it out with them and they will push you to bring the best out of yourself.

felt chode for asking some soccer player if we could take a pic. that fucked w/me just a bit because i just wanted to do it to show off to my cousins back in London. it wasn't even authentic.

Hop around the club but i don't find anything that i truly want.

run around and do some street sets - just enjoying hearing the sound of my own voice. and it's just pointless convo at this point. leave around 4:30.

i think i've started to pick myself out of the slump and just be honest, concentrated on MY OWN actions

Saturday 06/30

Head out on Saturday...don't remember what went down but I was out w/AS89…i started the night off super rough but picked up steam gradually and got to a nice baseline level.

Sunday 07/01

Hit up a "high-end" spot on Sunday. They say no at first but I just talk my way in. Start saying some ridiculously authentic stuff to this older chick whose all over me. I convince her to come outside and vouch for Christian who can't get in. She doesn't have enough pull at the door so I just talk to Christian for like 30 mins. Eventually the doorman is like fuck it these guys are cool they don't care.

A small room which I sort of hate. Do plenty of sets. The only other person approaching was this b-ball player. yo he was going in HARD. i was impressed. celebs that approach? I was pretty tired and i was lacking clarity of intent so overall the night wasnt as good.

Monday 07/02

Start training w/Manwhore......lot of good inner game stuff I never worked on........Go out w/Christian - head out to my Monday spot.

Little really hooks - I'm just not present at all. God this slump i'm in sucks. Eventually i build steam after a couple of street sets. One memorable one was when I hit up these 2 artsy chicks and was talking all this nonsense of how i wanted to do her in the dumpster in a british accent. I got a boner so I was happy. A boner is a sign of a productive night out. Thats really my own objective.

I end up going cross-town because fuck it YOLO but I don't end up getting in.

Tuesday 07/03

Roll out w/L - he absolutely schools me and shows me how to get shit done…he was just coming from a Tyler BC…and all he does is HIT HIT HIT. WOW…he's looking so fuckin sharp..jheeze.I thought i approached a lot until i saw him in action. It was so memorable.

Do lot of sets in the bar..not really present tonight either…I meet some drunk puerto rican chick…her friend is being ridiculously nasty to me….so I'm nasty back to her friend and tell her to fuckin suck cock in hell and die….the puerto rican chick is standing there watching this all go down..i'm having a shitty night so I go back and re-approach her like 3 times. eventually her friend backs away from me and i flirt w/the puerto rican girl……The puerto rican girl is annoying so I just start hitting.. I delayed approaching this hot ass girl w/tats.who IMO was the hottest girl there…Finally grow a pair and approach her and o surprise she's doesn't blow me out….Ahh nasty little ego of mine preventing me from meeting her earlier.....See what happens when you act like a fag you can potentially miss good opportunities……she ends up being a lovely girl but it's a no go.

Hit street sets w/L...WOW phenomenal. Seeing him in action being so shameless, physically escalating, and # closing everything in sight. marvelous marvelous stuff - made my brain go - you've done stuff like this before - go and do it. It really helped seeing him in action.... We end up hitting up a lot of girls. fun times…. excellence.

Wednesday 07/04

Meet up w/L…I was tired and out of it after spending the day at my parents house in Jersey. Tonight I was focused on eye contact…I roll up on some Italian chick in a green dress…The unflinching eye contact helps w/a lot..I hit up a lot of girls in here. I run into these 2 lil artsy girls. Vibe w/them for awhile - exchange #s….don't see L…so i run around and do some street sets - talk my way into a club around 3:10. proceed to blow out most of the venue. I'm determined to stay out till late.

Thursday 07/05

Finally have fun tonight..I'm well rested…Meet up w/L and hit up street sets..We run into some promoter dude…and he rolls up on a random group of 5 girls and we just sort of join them..We bail when we realize we have to pay cover. L rolls up on some 2 Aussie chicks…We get in a cab w/them to go to a club a couple of blocks away…One of them goes fuckin ape shit psycho when she realizes she left her credit card at another bar…We just eventually walk to the club that we were going to and I roll up on some cutie but she's taken…Flirt w/more girls on the way to LES…hit shit up….We roll up on these 2 chicks…and have a long convo w/both girls…We decide to go back crosstown and roll up on street sets around 3:30 until 4.

So unnecessary :)

Friday 07/06

I roll up on some girl outside the organic grocery store near my place. I have poor eye contact so eventually I get blown out. Poor eye contact will kill you…

Don't go out…I'm feeling tired n lazy after re-organizing my apt for the new female roomie who moved in today and staying up until 11am from the previous night (don't ask why i did such a thing - i just did).

Saturday 07/07

Roll out w/L….I'm feeling good mann…. We hit up girls on the street. then we head out to our Saturday spot. Roll up on a bunch of girls. Eventually i wing him w/2 girls he met. We isolate them and then bounce them to the dance floor. Dance a bit. They keep saying they want to leave blah blah. We're probably in set for 2 hours. We eventually get them outside. At the "moment of decision" aka when they're getting the cab L decisively goes "Yeah we're coming". We wouldn't have pulled if not because I was sort of acting too cool although I was way more into my chick then L was into his.

We get to their NYU dorm - our girls are roommates and L is trying to avoid an orgy so he wants to bounce his chick to grab some tea while i go upstairs with mine. My girl says we're not having sex, we're not having sex. In retrospect, I think I was too passive. I sort of persist and go yea "i have to use the bathroom". On my way to the bathroom, I randomly run into the intern who sits next to me at work and he's laughing his ass off hysterically. o god. i acknowledge him. use the bathroom. come out. and i probably could have really persisted but uhhh its a no go.

L and I decide to head back for seconds. hit up the whole venue and then do some more street sets. L meets this lovely Ethiopian girl on the street and has make out times while i occupy her annoying friend. Having a wing does wonders. i'm glad i can get him into amazing situations and him likewise.

Roll out and meet some 2 czech girls. Flirt w/them for about 20 minutes. # close.

Can't complain. I'm much happier and having wayyy more FUN. going out w/L has been a fuckin god send.

Sunday 07/08

Day Time

Roll out w/L to the park. Fun fuckin times. I have acquired a bit of wing dependency though. I only mention this because as I was waiting for him to get off the subway I only approached one girl when there were quite a few chicks i could have approached after i approached my first chick. Not a big deal.

It can't get any better in terms of fun. Thing w/us is that we hit hit hit hit hit hit. Roll up on a bunch of sets in the park and get a ton of #s for text game experience/practice.

so un-necessary.
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michel_de_montaigne

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Join Date: 11/17/2011 | Posts: 115

BE LOUDER. Also, don't be afraid to look uncool and try-hard and lame in front of ostensibly really cool people in the MPD, like douchey promoters with ponytails and jewelry. I mean like acting like Timf Bhraownh in front of the whole line at some trendy place. That's a little extreme, but we should be willing to go to that extent if necessary.

-L
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Katalyst

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Join Date: 05/16/2008 | Posts: 614

I'm glad you pointed this out. I didn't even realize this... Now my RAS is pointed towards it and holy shit girls can barely hear me half the time - at least initially. I've circumvented this by leaning in and keeping them close but I want my shit to be more dynamic. I'm only loud when I'm super in state like last Sunday when we did daygame which was so much fuckin fun. gawd.

Anyways next time i'm being a fag and acting all too cool for school and shit you should call me out and make me do some fucked up "o no he didn't just do that" type of shit. Or better yet you should just steal the girl away from me If i'm interacting w/girls at the moment. 

michel_de_montaigne wrote:
BE LOUDER. Also, don't be afraid to look uncool and try-hard and lame in front of ostensibly really cool people in the MPD, like douchey promoters with ponytails and jewelry. I mean like acting like Timf Bhraownh in front of the whole line at some trendy place. That's a little extreme, but we should be willing to go to that extent if necessary.

-L
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Katalyst

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 I watched the following video and it hit me like a ton of fuckin bricks. Have to raise my standards. Start hitting it up and really playing to win. I'm not going to bash myself because I know I'm damn close. Like really close to being a fuckin BOSS.....

Took a brief hiatus from going out and it absolutely killed me to not go out and just be a fuckin flirt. I have to work on my inner game shit though and get some sleep (which I still don't even manage to fuckin get on my off nights). At this point reading up on text game and reading self-esteem/mastery/talent code and other things will better serve me then going out and flirting w/chicks for 3-4 hours…I'm really at that point. That's just where I'm currently at so I've told myself that I'm going to limit myself to 4-5 nights a week but when I go out those nights leave at 4am - even if i have work the next day.

I went out briefly on Wednesday and Thursday nights after soccer and was completely out of it and tired.... The lack of sleep just kills me at times but I'm such a damn opportunist I can't help but not go out and approach….On these kind of nights my only goal is to get a boner. Once I get a boner, everything usually takes care of itself unless I'm just out of it..

Friday (07/13)

I roll out downtown and start hitting up street sets. I made it a goal to act the same way I do when L is around and just be self-amusing on my own. No serious man times. I start to hit hit hit and I'm self-amusing. I start hitting on this beautiful door girl and the security guard starts hating on me HARDCORE. It's all good i shouldnt be giving a fuck.

Roll into my spot around 1 - start flirting. First i roll up on some ginger standing by herself. nice little milf. Start flirting w/her and then bounce her over to another part of the venue. Vibe w/her for like 15 minutes. She says she has to chill w/her friend that works there so she bounces.

Btw I've been practicing unforgiving eye contact. I'm able to hook with no words very strongly. It's like the tension dissipates as soon as I start talking. I vibe w/this Brazilian girl for like 10 mins - she keeps saying her friends her friends and I get her phone #.

Roll around/chode/get water/flirt a bit more. I run into these 2 asian girls from australia. Start talking to one for awhile just simple vibing, no physicality really and one of them asks me for coke. I usually lose interest in these kind of girls although I have to reframe this and go YO THEY TRYING GET FUCKED IN THE BATHROOM…i mean who am i to judge. a lot of people i respect probably do that drug so at the end of the day it's their problem.I lose interest and pop a set right next to them of 3 beautiful italian girls. i first start hitting on the one with the bob cut and she's shy and nervous. I start talking to her and she doesn't really have much of a vibe to her and I'm feeling sort of non-charismatic so I just start hitting on her cousin or something. We talk for a bit, I ask her for a # but she's a no go.

Roll around, open this dark haired pretty aggressively and strong.. I get a boner within a minute and i'm very push w/her minimal pull. Isolate her from her friends and I try to make-out w/her but no. Keep talking and vibing they run off somewhere. I run into this czech girl that I've been texting but recently she stopped texting. I vibe w/her about our initial meetup, talk to her sis for a bit - but i think she's on some kind of date w/a guy or something so she bounces. womp womp not enough value.

Roll around, re-open some sets and bounce to the street. I'm not exactly satisfied so I bounce to the streets around 4am and I run into the Italian girls. Start manhandling the one that wouldn't give me her #. Fun fun times. She tells me she has a BF and the one I initially opened…leaves kind of pissed. Just a good point to remember - i have to stop taking the easy route because the one who actually likes you and wants to get laid is pretty stifled. I mean i was stifled when i met her but I should have just stated congruent to how I was feeling and even though it wasn't great I didn't need to be the shit to further things w/her.

I learned a lot about the importance of physical game as well as the importance of pushing girls away. For instance I told this girl from Spain that I hate it when I speak spanish that people from Spanish speaking countries reply in english. I was actually kind of disgusted by this at the moment so i walked away in disgust and throughout the night she kept chasing chasing chasing. I've always known this but i'm making it an active habit. just to push push push because naturally I'm going to want to rub my boner on the girl

Saturday (07/14)

Watch a bit of boxing at home then go check out my friend who I used to DJ w/at the W in Union Square - pretty decent venue just not really my kind of scene. Proceed to get blown out by most girls in the venue. I run into this blond girl w/ a bob cut that I love physically ….Thing is she's part of a bachelorette party and a part of me knew I wasn't going to stay long so I don't push it to the limit. Head out downtown and hit up the next venue.

Feeling good as i walk in…roll up on some girl from San Fran. Way too physical and she can't comprehend what's going on. I roll up on some Indian girl straight from Mumbai and start flirting w/her. She won't let me get physical so I chill back and talk to her. 15 minutes later she says no to me getting her a #. Next. Run into this cutie w/short hair. Vibe w/her for a bit but she says she's here w/her BF although if i had pushed to another level I could have pushed things to a new level.

I roll around and run into some girl sitting down in a chair and I extend my hand out. She kinda looks at me and shakes her head. I start playing thumb war w/her for a bit. I'm not as free flowing as my chode brain is like "yo no compliance". I talk to her for a bit and I don't have much to say so I just sort of chill out. I see another girl nearby so I just manhandle her and dance w/her for a little bit. I get bored and then manhandle san fran girl. She's a little older and is like wtf - too much manhandling. I was also being really obnoxious like putting my chest hair in her face and stuff. She wasn't too pleased.
So no compliant thumb war cutie from before sees all of this and she's kind of de-validated from watching me talk to all the other girls in front of her. I roll back to her and i start to talk to her for a bit. I shake her hand and she's like "got ya - i beat you in thumb war"

This is actually one of my sticking points. Kinda breathing life back into sets that went stale or that got devalidated or something like that. Her friend pulls her away from me and they eventually end up leaving the venue. I think this is one of those sets where if I was really really into it I would have just stayed in her vicinity and stuck around. Like if a girl is worth it just stay in her little social space orbit and she'll get the hint like yea this guys likes me. This is just my theory but i've done things like this before and they either go really good or really bad. With time i'll become more calibrated with de-validation.

I'm going around manhandling girls. I run into this girl from the night before July 4th. I only remember because I was so out of it that night until like 3:45 when my ego finally motherfuckin let go while watching michel de m. Anyways so this was like a 30 sec # close the other week….. I call her, she's like who's this. I'm like "Katalyst" and kinda let the tension build and she's like wtf and just hangs up. I remember being all butthurt about it because when I'm texting/calling I'm still attached to the motherfuckin outcome.

So i see this snotty lil girl, I pull her off whatever she is dancing on w/her friend, and I just manhandle her and then make-out w/her. Very minimal verbal, it's more beast mode type shit on her ass all over the venue. A few minutes later, she says she needs a drink w/her friend. Yup go get your liquid courage. I bounce around and open this girl in a 3 set and just fuck w/her as well. She's cute and playful and eventually she says she has to go outside w/her friends.

I run back into to snotty lil girl, and I vibe very little verbally w/her. She asks me what my name is and what i do... I tell her my cousin's name for my self-amusement as well as not to kill the set. I'm absolutely determined to bang her for being a dick to me…petty lil ego bs wants a hate fuck... More time-wasting and all I do really is just be a dick and push her around then pull her back in (sometimes into other people) while i'm dancing w/her. just dickhead kind of shit. eventually i leave the venue w/her and her friend. Her friend asks my girl if she wants to join her or not and my girl goes yeah you're sleeping over…....I'm running very minimalist last man standing game here….. We walk a couple of blocks and she's bitching about her heel that broke or something..I ignore... I say very little to the friend who is actually cuter than my girl in a shy naive nervous kind of way. My girl drops something like "Hey my friend likes to cuddle". At the time, I kind of ignored but come think of it I should have probably gone for the 3some at this point.

We keep walking and i just sort of follow them into a cab. We get to West Village and they want to get pizza. At pizza I just get a water, they get slices to go. I just talk shit to other people to kind of have that influence and show them I'm not some silent fag... The girl gets to her apartment, nice little fancy doorman building. I walk in and i'm like i have to use your bathroom…girl is like no..so there's sort of a showdown. Her friend is opening the elevator door open while my girl is stuck in 2 minds. I realize i have to get her slightly excited so i start making out w/her. Her friend keeps calling snotty lil girl. I follow snotty lil girl into the elevator but i get a firm no no no.
Walk back. I should have opened more sets because you never know where they will take you but i was "satisfied".

Looks like my new current sticking point is not being able to get to the "sex location" as for the 2nd straight Saturday i've pulled but not gotten into the girl's room.
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Ballgames

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Katalyst is the REAL FUCKING DEAL.

Stoked to start gettin our little 3some going with you me and montaigne... gonnna be good shit hittin ny with you guys. I see GREAT things in our future.

Tonight was fun man.
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 Welll
Buddhagames convinced me.
Im reading starting now. 
Carry on pimp
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