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Yup. Good shit.
You know something funny. Adi and I came to the conclusion last night that it's ok to be OUTCOME DEPENDENT. Wanting an outcome, pushing hard for an outcome but not in a rough, scary way.
The thing is, if you're purely authentic, then wanting an outcome is completely in alignment with that. In fact, I would say it turns a woman on that you show decisive action and go after what you want.
The thing is, you can't be ATTACHED TO THE OUTCOME. If shit doesn't work out, then you say "Cool. No biggie." But you keep trying, you keep trying and trying and trying. Run the train, I guess Ozzie would say.
Think about during Hot Seat, that girl that Julien opened in the smoking area. How long did you keep pursuing her before she finally jumped the railing to join him?
We gotta be relentless dude. Seriously.
I don't believe in this "NOT TRYING by chilling out" bullshit anymore. I believe in being in alignment with how you're feeling and expressing your honest intent to the fucking hilt. That's the real NOT TRYING.
Again, complete authenticity isn't a tactic. It's a way of life.
BTW, AS89 was fucking killing it yesterday. OMG. My mind was blown by just watching him.
You know something funny. Adi and I came to the conclusion last night that it's ok to be OUTCOME DEPENDENT. Wanting an outcome, pushing hard for an outcome but not in a rough, scary way.
The thing is, if you're purely authentic, then wanting an outcome is completely in alignment with that. In fact, I would say it turns a woman on that you show decisive action and go after what you want.
The thing is, you can't be ATTACHED TO THE OUTCOME. If shit doesn't work out, then you say "Cool. No biggie." But you keep trying, you keep trying and trying and trying. Run the train, I guess Ozzie would say.
Think about during Hot Seat, that girl that Julien opened in the smoking area. How long did you keep pursuing her before she finally jumped the railing to join him?
We gotta be relentless dude. Seriously.
I don't believe in this "NOT TRYING by chilling out" bullshit anymore. I believe in being in alignment with how you're feeling and expressing your honest intent to the fucking hilt. That's the real NOT TRYING.
Again, complete authenticity isn't a tactic. It's a way of life.
BTW, AS89 was fucking killing it yesterday. OMG. My mind was blown by just watching him.
Yup that's it. I think the deeper you go into this, the more you'll know what's real for you.
I honestly believe it's ok to be outcome oriented and pushing for an outcome hard, as long as it's real. It's ok to chill and not say shit, as long as it's real.
But yeah, go deeper man. This is the real deal. It's like if you're the coolest motherfucker alive, why would you feel like you need to hide anything? Naw, you'd put it all out there. You'd put your heart on the line.
I have nothing left to teach you bro. The student has surpassed the master. :)
I honestly believe it's ok to be outcome oriented and pushing for an outcome hard, as long as it's real. It's ok to chill and not say shit, as long as it's real.
But yeah, go deeper man. This is the real deal. It's like if you're the coolest motherfucker alive, why would you feel like you need to hide anything? Naw, you'd put it all out there. You'd put your heart on the line.
I have nothing left to teach you bro. The student has surpassed the master. :)
I think the needy side has sort of flared up now that I'm going up to girls and telling them that there gorgeous and I want to take them home later. I don't even think that's congruent. I'ma start telling these girls that I want to see them naked later. I'm starting to channel into that authentic side and I feel some mild approach anxiety now. which is good. Need to really push my comfort zone and be fearless. Give me a month I'll be gold.
Yeah here's the thing. I think it's completely ok to be "needy". Just be totally congruent with it. It's when you try to NOT BE NEEDY or try to hide it that she realizes you're a fucking punk and your done. Think about it this way. If you're completely unapologetic about your intent and desires, is it really needy anymore? It's when you're trying to be something you're not that it becomes needy.- Be authentic and take a BOLD MAN'S BLOWOUT. I had trouble teling girls i wanted to take them home as soon as i opened in the beginning of the night. Eventually I hit really high levels of authenticity at times but I still wasn't 100% shameless with that shit. Building up that unreactive, authentic muscle will take time but if I can do it for a month. Jheeze. I love being this authentic because even when you're that authentic and you get a HARSH blowout girls look at you w/admiration. Authenticity will help me so fuckin much. I'm not really normal so being authentic kinda cements my weird reality to the girl.
Haha, I laughed at this. Dude, being authentic to the hilt and putting yourself on the line. THAT TAKES BALLS. That's real man, true player shit. You want pain and you want to become icier than Antarctica, this is the way to do it. True realness and true pain. No pussy ass shit. Just because you're authentic doesn't mean you don't ignore other womanizing principles. Most girls need to experience some kind of PUSH as well as chill the fuck out.
I still don't think you need to push. Again, you were the one there so only you know for sure but I think you're looking for confirmation bias. I think if you just chilled out and were normal, you would've been fine.This is pretty much Brad's game BTW. Spike the attraction hard and just ride it out till the pull.
Even Ciaran's Apoc Opener he described this same exact thing. Go in and ask her if she wants to go home with you, and then just be normal so she doesn't think you're a rapist. Then pull when she's ready.
I mean, do you think you're not the prize when you're this authentic? Do you think she'll think you only want sex from her?
First off, if you're not high enough value, she'll shit test the fuck out of you to make sure. And secondly, it's ok to just want sex from her. She's completely cool with that.
Anyways, up to you to experiment with it. I'm struggling with my own shit at the moment.

Haze~
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The problem is your not trying isn't actually not trying. You're TRYING to not try. It's like Owen said, "Don't even try to not try, just don't fucking try."
The problem is you give a fuck. You care so much. "Not trying" is just another tactic to use on the girl to "get her".
How do you genuinely not try? By being authentic. By being real. Express you're desires truthfully and let the chips fall where they may.
Tap into what's real. Be at the cause end of things. Demonstrate your authentic intent onto the world and let the world react to you.
ANYTHING LESS THAN 100% AUTHENTIC BEHAVIOR IS YOU REACTING TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
If a natural believed he was enough, would he in any way try to fake his behavior or try to be in any way inauthentic? It makes no sense. He believes he's completely worthy of the girl, why would he TRY to get her by NOT BEING HIMSELF or express his desires untruthfully.