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June 19th, 2013
If happiness is a default state what's the point of getting up in the morning?
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#11
William-h-bonney

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Join Date: 05/04/2011 | Posts: 812

Do you believe everything that every skinny ginger dude tells you!

Did you CRy when you came out your mothers pussy? Yes, Well then it's not a default state is it.

Start thinking for your self
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#12

Murmur

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 When all barriers are down, and old constraints broken, stress will slowly disapear; as you wake up to the relative vacuity of reality, the emptyness beyond what you've been told. It will be the time to find life inside yourself, to rebuild a world through courage and passion.
Values are the old guardian of society's fabric, they creates interests, fear, reward, and punishment; they build an interesting maze for all to play with, all their life,without raising questions. Life is easy when you keep close to you the values of your peers, and you act by them, and you think by them.
But the game is about those guys that have been either fucked up by those rules, are tired of it, or have seen beyond and want to know more and explore.
And the game give them yet just another maze, another set of values, tangled with self help and winner mentallity. It is just but a reafirmation of the old values, on crack.
What happens to the guy that don't stick with the plan, and sees emptyness, accepts it, and loves it.

All that remain will be a choice, always rethinked all along your life, untill you reach the point of equilibrium, where you would have created your own values, and accept them. And maybe if your lucky, you would have found passion, something that you really want to achieve;

Life is more than something you invest in.
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Raevinn

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Really cool observation man. It's quite something to think about. Like you get Tolle who spent 3 months on some bench in a park in pure bliss, but he didn't just stay there forever and he only reached that after going through his supposed intense internal struggle. So then you backtrack to why he was having this internal struggle in the first place. Was that a natural thing to happen? I reckon so. We all have a sense of unease in us, its what makes growth take place. Imagine everyone just purely happy all the time, no one would do anything. It's what drives us to keep on aiming higher after achieving goal after goal. I can't seem to recall the right word that describes this unease, lets just call it unhappiness. You don't have to see it as something negative though. Like yeah in the short term it doesn't seem too great but if you look at it objectively instead of subjectively its not so bad.

And yes, younger kids who have been influenced by the world to a less extent than adults seem to be really happy all the time without any motive. But everyone ends up not being happy. In a world where everyones 6 years old and pure of heart and happy all the time will fail really quickly, even if all those 6 year olds had all the knowledge they needed. The universe has not fucked up somewhere. Everyone, or the normal person, gets hit by that unhappiness because thats the way its supposed to be. If you look the caveman analogy like Tyler often does, the caveman that just laid in bed all day from happyness probably died out of the gene pool very early on. We need the unhappyness for surival, even today. So I would say unhappiness is more like the default state. 
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chinaski

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 this is just a phase dude... do that, sit on a chair all day, sooner or later you'll get bored or depressed. then, you'll realize it's time to get a life.
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Cam

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chinaski wrote:
 this is just a phase dude... do that, sit on a chair all day, sooner or later you'll get bored or depressed. then, you'll realize it's time to get a life.

It pretty much took me 23 years of my life to do this lol.
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Cyzoner wrote:
Seriously now I'm starting to come to terms with this fact I've lost all motivations and just feel like sitting around all day chilled as fuck
Good question. Most people in society have no motivations at all. Self-discipline is an art. I like to believe that some are just born ambitious and most aren't.

When you think about it, we really don't have to anything. Modern society has solved most problems like food, housing, safety, so there really isn't a point in doing anything. Some are motivated by getting status. Some are motivated by women. Others are just creators and do whatever the fuck they want.

Personally, I'm motivated by competition. I love playing the game and winning. You have to put yourself out there and challenge yourself to keep up with everyone else, in sports, pickup, business, etc.
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