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December 5th, 2016
Guys who game as if they are girls...and CLOSE
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UtopiaFive

UtopiaFive

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Join Date: 09/16/2008 | Posts: 4956

1. Their game is "interesting conversation"
2. They don't get blown out because they don't ESCALATE HARD (until the girl escalates them)
3. They actually say LETS HANG OUT and the girl thinks OH WERE GOING TO HANG OUT (as opposed to me, where they KNOW that HANG OUT == BANG or TALK A BIT THEN BANG)
4. They get "drawn in" to this "interesting conversation"

I am still utterly confused any time I see this working.  How does it work?  If I ever try to "make conversation" it just sucks.  At least one example of a dude like this grew up with like 4 sisters but I'm sure some of this "completely harmless game" can be learned.  

BTW I think its useful because e.g. these guys will GO IN ALOOF and then REMAIN ALOOF.  (Their most common error.)
I will GO IN HARD and then FAIL TO CHILL and LET IT BREATHE.  (My most common error.)

I think these skills can go somewhat hand in hand.  

Anyone else perplexed yet also interested by this or have a better grasp on it?
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TableDance

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Join Date: 07/08/2009 | Posts: 1988

I've accidentally done it before and confused myself.  That said I have no idea how to do it.  When I try to be that way I end up friends zone.  Now that I think about it that might be the key.  It's worked for me when I actually just (truely) put the girl in friends zone.  I dunno.  Interesting topic though.
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agentdoublej

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 Im kinda sorta like this.Im a super duper laid back type dude.I dont really escalate on girls much until i get them alone even then its in a kinda relaxed slow sorta way if that makes sense.Most of the time when im with a girl i dont even really try to have sex the first day unless i see the oppurtunity present it self.

The time that i tried escalating hard it didnt work for me.The last two girls i went out with actually escalated on me.
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Beast Von Gandi

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Attention = Value....basically. Girls are submissive creatures...i.e. they'll eventually become submissive to your sexual agression...they're designed to do that.

There are couple of things when you're 'just talking' and then you get laid. One is that you must not care at all about getting laid..in my experience every time I absolutely don't care about getting laid (or I don't know if I'll get laid) however the pickup moves logistically in the right direction (progressive isolation), I end up getting laid. 

The second is that you must actively set frames about discreteness and non-judgementalism (i.e. oh we're just gonna hang out frame) and I've been making this mistake a lot recently when I've decided that the girl is going to waste my time just by her initial reaction to my escalation. While other times I've baby stepped ruthlessly to the end and sex happens anyway.

Stop trying to get laid...go for making the girl progressively horny and keeping the 'we're not having sex frame' is pretty money.
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scottsdale

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It is interesting stuff...

I know I have heard some things coming from Alex how he will play the angle any which way he can, and if he must he will pretend to be her gay friend just to get a chance with her later.
Of course he obviously would shift and explode on her ass when the time was right.

Its like in game there are so many different ways to do it, so many different styles. None of them really wrong or right as long as they work.
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rogerhelms

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The most interesting man in the world, has the most interesting stories in the world. Girl gets drawn into his world, he now dictates their reality with his words and paints a lifestyle in their mind without ever showing them a picture.

So simple. You never sat back and just see a guy charm a group of woman with his words and his wit? (While they secretly tell each other they want to fuck him without him ever touching them or making statements about their looks?) Its the shit. IMO, thats how game should really look like, not beasting and running around like chickens with your head cut off trying to be a rapist. Though that works too and it has a time and place.

Its been said that if you win the girls mind, you win her body. Some guys can pull that shit off because they're interesting, most are too lame and lack the charm to make it work for them. 

Heres a vid with said example:



Yes its in a movie, but this one scene is a reflection of reality.
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Powerhouse

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this is a large % of college style game

you meet and talk about interesting/fun shit

you hang out and fuck

people see you in public and you act normal and talk about interesting shit
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UtopiaFive

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Also there is this distinction that this guy will actually TALK TO girls versus TALK AT them.  

And you could also say this is GETTING GIRLS TO CHASE YOU.

Also I think I've noticed the few examples:
- they are good at sucking people into fake drama
- they are very picky with other things like food as well (and I don't think this is a "fake picky-ness")
- doing things I (currently) interpret as "manipulative" w girls
- they think girls they meet are "relationship girls" but I can tell from their laughs at my crude humor that "they are exactly the same" (its just the guy is different of course)
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UtopiaFive

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Hmm yeah your description of this kind of game sounds pretty legit.  

What do you typically do to "build connection" that most guys here wouldn't be doing?  

And you basically were stating what jeffy is throwing out a lot lately, in his words THE ESCALATION CAUSES THE ATTRACTION which I'm seeing to be true, its just that we do this escalation BEFORE the friendship, and you sound like you do it AFTER the friendship.  

Funny thing is I've seen this happen ONCE (or maybe a few times I can't remember well right now) for me.  

EDIT: I see a lot of this is in your 2nd post about it.  
Halffull wrote:
 For every rule you have about game, there's a guy out there getting laid doing the opposite.

My daygame is pretty similar to this, although I show more interest usually.  I wrote about it a few years ago.

Check out:
This Post; http://www.rsdnation.com/node/76805
This Post: http://www.rsdnation.com/node/93497
This Post; http://www.rsdnation.com/node/81635
This Post: http://www.rsdnation.com/node/112968

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scottsdale

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UtopiaFive wrote:
Also there is this distinction that this guy will actually TALK TO girls versus TALK AT them.  

And you could also say this is GETTING GIRLS TO CHASE YOU.

Also I think I've noticed the few examples:
- they are good at sucking people into fake drama
- they are very picky with other things like food as well (and I don't think this is a "fake picky-ness")
- doing things I (currently) interpret as "manipulative" w girls
- they think girls they meet are "relationship girls" but I can tell from their laughs at my crude humor that "they are exactly the same" (its just the guy is different of course)
You just described a good friend of mine I grew up with.

he is a mega drama queen. He is a compulsive liar. he is very picky about shit and stubborn. Selfish as fuck, ulta manipulative.... But he is very cool and sociable (hence why he is my friend) and girls eat him up. Girls will fall in love with him and do anything he wants.
I would say however his quality of life is very poor, his life is all jacked up cause of how negative he is, one of the biggest victims you will ever meet... but thats part of his pull, he gets girls feeling so sympathetic towards him.
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XXL

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so what is the problem guys? you can't talk with girl anymore? do your verbal game suck so bad? i do it all the time like that. i'm not aloof i'm not stuck up i have fun with it doing it like that saying for example:
.. oh yeah why not.. that sounds tempting.. i don't know if i should.. here comes the trouble.. shit i'm so easy after one drink.. i'm kinda scared there are 3 cuties of you and i'm alone.. let's go there but only if you not gonna jump me right away.. it's getting hot in here i'm a bit scared myself..

if you watched californication thenyou know what i'm talking about. i still lead the whole thing. i still steer the conversation and move the girl/girls where i want but i do it by baiting. it's like throwing up an idea and stating we shouldn't do it. i subtly plant sex possibility in the head and take it from there. i learned it from tyler article about screening/chasing switch. it's awesome! chicks dig that shit. they go crazy. they giggle they get wet start touching they really make themselves believe that they are dangerous sexually and open themselves up like whoa. mix that with non judgemental attitude and sex is given.

and i don't play that much hard to get so i don't have to keep it that way to the very end. girl knows i'm into her. it's just style of flirting. puting her in role. yeah it's like a roleplay. fun as hell
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