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Knoxville wrote:
 8.10.13
Saturday
Summit 2013

Venue: Marquee
Bootcamp Day 3


I eventually found a set to stick with. She was a local, russian girl. A 7. I stuck with her for a while, danced, found her friend and walked her out of the club. I ended up seeing Bearded Joe, Alex's bootcamp manager, in set walking a couple girls. I leave my set that seemed semi solid with good potential and leave because I would rather learn from the source I paid for. I wing the Pakistani girl, who I actually like. Bearded Joe's girl is being a COMPLETE cunt. He keeps her calm and we walk them back to the hotel. I can tell that she's really bent him out of shape from being such a cunt. He tells them we are on the 6th floor of the hotel they are staying in. The doesn't let us walk them to their room. The girl starts threatening to call the cops. My girl is really into me and wants to grab food. I tell my girl to tell her friend that we are going to get breakfast. We try 3 times, but she won't budge. We get dropped off on the 6th floor.
Lol I was moreso pissed that she was cockblocking you when her friend was clearly down to hang out, even saying that she wanted to go off with you.  

Good to see you implementing the ideas from bootcamp.

Bonus video lesson on calibration and non-judgemental understanding the nature of what (who) you're dealing with haha:



Go to 3:56 for the gators/crocs
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Knoxville

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BeardedJoe~ wrote:

Knoxville wrote:
 8.10.13
Saturday
Summit 2013

Venue: Marquee
Bootcamp Day 3


I eventually found a set to stick with. She was a local, russian girl. A 7. I stuck with her for a while, danced, found her friend and walked her out of the club. I ended up seeing Bearded Joe, Alex's bootcamp manager, in set walking a couple girls. I leave my set that seemed semi solid with good potential and leave because I would rather learn from the source I paid for. I wing the Pakistani girl, who I actually like. Bearded Joe's girl is being a COMPLETE cunt. He keeps her calm and we walk them back to the hotel. I can tell that she's really bent him out of shape from being such a cunt. He tells them we are on the 6th floor of the hotel they are staying in. The doesn't let us walk them to their room. The girl starts threatening to call the cops. My girl is really into me and wants to grab food. I tell my girl to tell her friend that we are going to get breakfast. We try 3 times, but she won't budge. We get dropped off on the 6th floor.
Lol I was moreso pissed that she was cockblocking you when her friend was clearly down to hang out, even saying that she wanted to go off with you.  

Good to see you implementing the ideas from bootcamp.

Bonus video lesson on calibration and non-judgemental understanding the nature of what (who) you're dealing with haha:



Go to 3:56 for the gators/crocs
lol I'm cracking up over the fact that you used crocs as a metaphor to girls. "Careful mate, she might snap at ya!" But is definitely a great example of what I should be aware of.
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Knoxville

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 8.16.13
Thurs

Brother and I hit up the college bar scene. We found ourselves locked into a set for 45 minutes or so. I liked my girl, she was just a sweetheart. We didn't screen for bf's early enough and found out they both had bf's with the exception of the 3rd indian girl who was single and who apparently never had a bf.

Interesting note to self. When I felt attraction for that blond girl, other than the fact that she's blond, I could sense her life expereince. I could tell that she had a taste of the world, where as the Indian girl had not had much experience in the world. I could just sense it off her and as a result did not make her all that attractive.

The girls end up telling us that they hate telling guys they have bf's cuz the guys never talk to them. It was cute.

8.17.13
Fri


Went out with Brother and we took a different take on our night. After Alex's bootcamp I really wanted to implement what I learned. We took a very casual view on the night and didn't go all intense and hit up every set. Brother found himself a bit out of it by the end of the night because I had been doing all the approaches. I ended up seeing a girl walking alone down the street, caught up to her and chatted. I mentioned that I would just walk with her for a minute. A minute turned into, "ill just go a lil furthe" and then, "oh Ill walk you to your door." Then told her I really had to pee. So I pulled to her apt. Turned out she had 8 roommates and shared a room with one of the girls. None of them were home. When I tried to escalate nothing was really happening, she had just worked a 12 hour shift.

I wonder what I could do next time to amp that up.

Brother and I meet up and decide that we will both interchange who approaches so we can both get them in. I'm really trying to develop our "wingmanship" together. Sometimes I approach the hottie and Brother waits for me to move to the side and I don't want to take the other girl. So I just physically and shamelessly move him over to the other girl.

By the end of the night our vibe was fucking good. We weren't all intense. Its so easy to get yourself all intense and scare girls off. I think that 2 hour rule is so important. Or in our case, the 1 hr 15 rule because the bars are busy from 10-1am. If you approach like a machine, you forget to approach very casually. You become stressed and that vibe shows on the girls. If you go in to just socialize in the first hour or even 5 minutes of talking to a new girl, it makes all the difference in the world.

Every week I will have a girl tell me she met me before. I used to say "oh really..bla bla bla" and they would react kind of defensively. The other night I just hugged the girl who had a bf and told her it was good seeing her again. Its like we formed a kind of friendship.

8.18.13
Sat


We hit up our latest spot. Its Utopia and Brother. I had an RSD guy spot me out who saw me on fb through my co-worker lol. I met another guy who was half persian and european who grabbed my number for daygame. He's moving to Harrah's city soon so I wanna get them connected.

The first set Brother and I talk to. Its a 2 set sitting at the bar. I see my girl and am attracted to her right away. Brother ends up leaving his girl. I stick with my girl and implement what I learned on bootcamp first hand. Enduring (not beating) shit tests, physical rapport, merging sets and introducing her to other girls, negative expressions. As soon as I found myself stressed, I just calmed myself down, reminded myself "no reason why your not enough" to just be "normal" and went with it. I walked them out of the bar at the end of the night. Hopped them to another bar. Then hopped them to a taxi and led the entire time. I stuck to my girl like white sticks on rice or however the saying goes.

We got back to their place and turned out the friend was crashing her in bed. The friend went downstairs. I pulled my girl the her closet and then outside her room and to that bathroom. made out. She said she had to go talk to her friend first because she said she was would spend time with her friend. She said I could crash on the couch downstairs. I did not want to pay for another taxi to get home and suddenly my ex main girl texts me about coming over. I end up crashing at her place. Had some really good fulfilling relationshippy sex. The stress of that relationship could potentially arise so I just gotta lay out flat to her and tell her that I am down to stick around, but what I need is the freedom to see other girls. I just gotta figure out how I can get this to mesh into her reality. I just gotta get her to buy into my frame I guess. Establishing this would get rid of all my stress.


Damn the relationshippy sex. I want a steady girlfriend like that. Getting tired of one night stands already lol

Dude its awesome. sucks though, cuz when she gets all distant and irresponsive days later, it fucks with my head. Im growing my emotional muscles! As Alex would say. She's fist fucking my emotions, as Tyler would say. 
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Knoxville

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8.21 - 8.24.13


I went out with Brother Wed and Thurs. I kept it short both nights. I was catching a sickness.

Duuude I Feel lazy. Living out in this new place I don't have a car and nothing is walking distance away. I just don't want to spend an hour each way to get around the city by bus. I know I'm being a lazy and need to just suck it up and do it. 

So free tour was on Thursday and I hit up a couple of groups in the club, but then headed back home since I ahd to wake up super early for work. Friday was fun. We hit up one of our spots and I just couldn't get into my groove. I started my week feeling kinda shitty and allowed it to spiral with my lack of abundance in girls. Oneitus. So I hooked up with her again Friday night. She was looking super hot for her birthday night. We hooked up and then hooked up for hours the next morning, got her breakfast, came back and hooked up more. This part is interesting. ITs the first time I felt so lazy and didn't know what to do with myself after I had gotten off 4 times and 2 of which I got off super hard. After I got home I felt like there was nothing else to do. I felt so lazy and useless. So I bought a domain for my site to begin working on. 

A few lessons I learned about the neediness and having it hit me hard this week.1) Drawing good emotions from myself (as Dave7 reminded me) and not from the high I get from sex during and afterward. 2) Being more calibrated, not giving my power away (allowing her to influence my emotions) 3) Keeping my relationships interesting (activities, taking her out on occasion, etc).

Saturday I went out with my brother, it was fun, but damn I like going out so much more. sorry for the shitty FR lol. 

Ah I'll continue it. So I went to really nice venue. A venue that looked like a mini vegas club (one of the nicer areas outside of my town). There were a lot of guys left over since it was 1:30am by the time I got there. Having only started my night after pretty late and inconsistent I just couldn't have fun. 

One Indian girl was the sister of a friend from undergrad. She was pretty hot. and pretty drunk. She was getting close to my face to see if I would kiss her. Shit test. Gave her zero validation. She slapt me pretty hard on each cheek at the same time. It was nothing I did, the was drunk. So was holding her hands and started lowering her... She thought I was going to dip her, but I just dropped her. Not to be a dick. I was just bored and just got slapped. She was fukckking everywhere.

I really want to set goals on my FRs. Places for me to focus. 

-Merging sets. This gets me in a social mood. Rolling up to girls just to chat at the beginning of the night is key for me. It takes the pressure off me and takes the pressure off the girl. I had a girl grabbing her friend for "help" at the beginning of the night, but when she realized I was just there to have fun and chat, she calmed down and talked. 

- Throwing in the drama. This is fucking amazing, what an impact it will have on my future relationships. This shit makes my confident in being able to keep girls strapped down in the future. Its something other than sex and a good time that will keep her around.

I realized this past week that it takes more than just sex to keep a girl around at times. Some girls want to be taken out. They want to be treated with girl friend like priviledges. Well its not they want it, its just a nice surprise and act of affection emotionally. 
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Dude. YOU are the reason she stays around. Not sex or activities or drama. YOU. What you bring to the table. How you think
How you look at her. How you make her feel.

Don't mistake why women stay with men. Drama and activities and sex are spices. The meat is you and how you express yourself on the world around you.

That being said, do drama for YOU for FUN. And cause it will get girls irrationally obsessed with you which is again for self amusement.

Cheers!
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9.5.13
Thurs

Just came to a realization. I've got this irrational fear that brings anxiety that I may not get the girl that I want as my girlfriend out of fear that some other guy will. I finally thought about how I would evolve that thought and realized where a part of Julien's game fits right in. "I know that I am the best fit for any girl. I know that any girl is better off with me than any other guy in this universe."

This has been a common theme in my life. An irrational fear that some other girl is going to get taken up by some other guy (which now that I think about it, was the case with my high school oneitis, some other guy stepped in). That there is "competition." When in fact, I know that "I am the best fit for any girl (and that I shit on any other guy)" and that I "disregard any evidence that goes against that belief" (Jeffy 1 of 5 of his affirmations early in the game).

This is a common theme in my life. Yeah sure its game related, but I think its more life related than anything else. I got into game to resolute this part of my life aka my high school oneitus, which was the tipping point of my depression. I eventually stayed in the game for different reasons. My purpose in the game changed. So fast forward 5 years after all this went down. Which again was an irrational fear of "losing" the girl that I truly like.

I was swear every time I fall into a clouded haze and come out (whats also interesting is how unaware I am of it all. Only after I get out of the cloud do I realize "wow what the fuck did I fall into", I come out with a new "evolved" sense of thinking. As I've gotten older (although I'm only 23) these realizations have come less and less often. from 16-21 I had all these questions about myself and my belief system. I was constantly churning all these thoughts and restructuring what made sense or was simply having a constant influx of new experiences.This also makes me realize why its important to push harder and harder as you get older. While your experience allows you to deal with less and less bull shit, you are able to push harder and quicker, but you also need to push even harder JUST so you can have those experiences that reveal cracks in your foundation (then again, it all could be just part of the process so thinking this much may not be necessary).

Man, these kind of thoughts make me feel very worldly. I feel more alive and connected. I have something to work on and I have something to look forward to as I see myself further develop.

I used to think that as you get older, things get dull, but they don't get dull, its just that the newness has lost its effect and I've lost the ability to appreciate the finer detail.
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Cat wrote:
Dude. YOU are the reason she stays around. Not sex or activities or drama. YOU. What you bring to the table. How you think
How you look at her. How you make her feel.

Don't mistake why women stay with men. Drama and activities and sex are spices. The meat is you and how you express yourself on the world around you.

That being said, do drama for YOU for FUN. And cause it will get girls irrationally obsessed with you which is again for self amusement.

Cheers!
-Cat
This is really what I needed to hear now. I think not thinking outside the box or thinking too much rsd led me to believe and think those things. Wow. Thanks for making that post man.
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How do you recall this state when you feel like?
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Knoxville

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 Ahhh.

I went out last week. I saw my old girl with another dude. I mind fucked myself Saturday. Wow. Crazy how emotions can take control.

Fast forward now, it just feels like a thing of the past. I've been relearning lessons that include feeling complete on my own, not needing the validation, expressing self love, seeing the benefit (reframe, but a truth) of pushing forward and seeing my future differently. A couple days ago I actually started feeling my coolness coming back. What a great feeling to feel like my own man. 

I write here tonight wishing I went out Wed thurs. Wednesday I had to drive home to my parents house to grab my passport. Tonight I had to pack for tomorrows trip to Toront (Cousins wedding). 
I like that I actually feel weird if I don't go out as much. Its a good thing. Sustains the habit.
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Havent posted up in here in a while.

Over the last few weeks I had a few cool long term lessons.

Lessons:

1) Keep the habit (and don't be lazy) of sleeping with the girls that I am sleeping with.
2) Treating every girl the same. Being that guy all the time. Whether hot or not. Doesn't matter. Come from that a place of self love and self expression that inspires my own initiative.

After my commitment to never sleeping with my previous blond "oneitus" again (because it screws me up for so many months...wow) I found a new blond. Really cool girl. Ironically her name is Tyler. If I closed her I could say, "dude last night I SNLed Tyler!" which would be cool. When talking about her with any RSDn guys around the city, they were always confused. For a brief moment they suspected Tyler's homoflexability. She broke up with her previous bf because his mom was snooty and never approved over her. When she went asking about my relationship with my mom, I was like, "oh yeah...its alright, I mean it would be better if I could actually talk to her about girls I date" or something along those lines. So I drop her off, she kisses me good bye, is really into me and doesnt really text back for the rest of the week. I get rebut her (still recovering from dat itus). Maybe I am wrong who knows.

I had a couple other "clicks" one being that I need to keep fucking the girls I am fucking on a weekly basis or else 1) I'll lose them 2) I become sexually frustrated and don't keep that nice vibe around chicks I meet.

As Jeffy maintains his habit of texting girls whether he is going out or not, its important for me to keep fucking these girls on a weekly basis. My physical and emotional "needs" are essentially met.

Another is just doing more day game. Seeing any place I go to whether that be the grocery store, etc. as a bar. Its just another social scene that I can meet any girl in. When I viewed the grocery store as a bar it made sense that I could just talk to anyone like anywhere else. I fbed closed this yoga instructor. She's older, so I never followed through with that... but fuck I should. cuz I know if it was super convenient, I totally would aka her doing all the work. But it doesnt work that way, most the time.

I met another girl via day game, haha blond hair and blue eyes again. We're texting. Seems like we will meet up sometime this week.

Another big click this week: Realizing how important it is to TREAT EVERY GIRL THE SAME. I'm not talking about not putting her on a pedestal. I'm talking about being motivated to "be that guy" no matter who the girl is. Regardless of whether or not I really like her or not, I still need to be that guy for ME, ALL THE TIME. If I am suddenly motivated by a girls hotness, I am essentially doing it for her (this is beside the point). I should be in the headspace of always expressing a wide range of emotions, being challenging, chatty, friendly physical, etc REGARDLESS of the girl. This is sustaining the habit of being that guy so that I do it without thinking.

Lessons:

1) Keep the habit (and don't be lazy) of sleeping with the girls that I am sleeping with.
2) Treating every girl the same. Being that guy all the time. Whether hot or not. Doesn't matter. Come from that a place of self love and self expression that inspires my own initiative.
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