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Knoxville

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Join Date: 05/19/2011 | Posts: 777

Hey its Knoxville aka Muzzi17 

Some background information on myself. I have known about the game for 3 years now. At the end of high school I reached a bad part of my life pulling me into deep depression as a result of so many factors. I was unhappy with my social life, how people treated me, my social skills, GIRLS, and religious/cultural constructs that did not work well with American culture (I was born here).

I began reading like crazy as most do in to the beginning of game. I began working on body language and conversational skills. College came around just a year later, I parted away from the friends that helped contribute to the destruction of my self percepted value, self esteem and confidence. THANK god these things happened...or I would not have been led to game and other areas of self improvement that will lead me along this incredible journey. Feel bad for people who think college was the best time of their life...I know for a fact that the quality of my life will continue growing with game. So my life began to slowly change. Once I came to college I found a healthy group of friends who treated me as friends should (WHAT WAS THIS FEELING!? After so long I did not know that this is how friends were suppose to make you feel). What I look forward to in game is the increasingly high caliber people you will attract into your life as the growth continues. 

Some more background information. During my first 2 years of game I approached around 300 girls indirectly (in the day, in class, openly on campus, tutoring centers, cafes) on campus (probably 30 number closes and a couple of girls I actually became friends with and one I quickly made my gf). About 10 directly in the day. I began just saying "hi" to random girls as they walked passed. Eventually I would see girls walking slightly ahead or behind me, catch up to them and say "hey blah blah blah blah." During my second and third year of game I approached at college parties and finally hit 21 where I began hitting up clubs and bars to approach (roughly 400 approaches prior to June 20, 2011)

After 3 years of knowing about game I wanted to get this shit handled. I decided to work part time and commit my sumer to game. Just prior to HotSeat on June 20th I made it a goal see a girl walking passed me, turn around and catch up to her and go direct (huge comfort zone passed). Since then I have approached about 300 girls in the day and 300-400 at night.

When I was religious I had planned on keeping my virginity until marriage, but that changed earlier this year so I finally lost it to a girl I met on campus this last April with my "hi" opener as she walking passed lol....out of the hundreds of girls I did this to she was one of the few to stop that I happen to lay. (Religious and cultural factors have kept me from learning to be sexual, so I am focusing on physical game)

Thing is, I had about 5 other chances to lose my virginity during the time that I decided to lose it. My circumstances were so specific. I wanted her to be sober, wanted it to happen in the day time, someone not in my social circle and to turn it into a friends with benefits. She made things sexual through text and we eventually arranged to hook up...being a 21 year old virgin holy shit I could not sleep prior to that night. I was UP all night and I mean that in every manner. When I lost my virginity it was everything I wanted (NOT in a fairytale sense, but a superficial sense). She dolled up, the physical act was amazing, everything was perfect.

Since then I have almost pulled girls from bars, but things just did not work out even when we agreed to go home together. I have had opportunities to take girls home that were down, but I was just not attracted to them. After HotSeat I went out for 19 days straight (attempted the 30 day challenge) whether it was day or night. What my time in game from here on depends on how much I push myself out of my comfort zone. It ALL depends on that. I realized the HotSeat stuff is awesome as long as you are pushing your comfort zone constantly!

Also, I don't drink at all so all my FR's will be sober FR's.

I finally decided to begin writing out field reports of my most memorable interactions regardless of how that memory went.
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Knoxville

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Join Date: 05/19/2011 | Posts: 777

 9.4.11

Last night while I went out with another RSD guy and my best friend. My best friend was raised around sisters, girls quickly grow to love the shit out of him...sometimes I do get jealous lol and I tell him. His relationship building skills are gold, all he has to do is approach and learn to get physical. He has been a role model since college.

First Set:

I walk into the first club at about 9pm last night and see these 3 blonds. At this point my balls were not there so I picked the another set of 2 girls who were not very attractive. I bring my buddy with me and we open. They are not having it and of course it's just the first set of the night. 10 minutes in with these girls I roll of onto this hot blond standing behind me. I see her purse:

ME: Give me your purse...Ima a robber! Give it to me! (she turns around, I wasn't reaching for her purse by the way)
HER: This is made of wood so I can beat people with it
ME: Whoa! Looks like a dash board...from a Nissan Altima.
HER: More like a BMW dashboard! (she mentions something about her husband)
ME: Where's your wedding ring? You're misleading me. I always check for a wedding ring.
HER: Really? Guys hit on me even when I wear a ring. I was at a photoshoot at 8 so I had to take it off.
ME: Now when guys see your pic advertised they're going to think they have a chance. (After she mentioned her husband I relate as a friend. here I am just bullshitting and running my mouth. I am a pretty eccentric guy)

So her friends walk in, I am still holding onto her dashboard BMW purse for the next 10 minutes while talking up her friends. I wasn't attracted to her friends so I headed out.

I walk over to the next bar and see the asian girl HB8.5 perfect body in this red dress. I grab her hand and look at her. I pull her to the side we start talking. I really can't remember what was said, but we got physical and after around 10 minutes we were kissing. Every now and then she would squeeze my hands really hard and actually over power me with her strength. (I was mind fucked and was thinking "oh shit I need to prove myself. I'm a man and she's a woman she can't do this! Wait I shouldn't prove myself it shouldn't matter!")Then I had all these thoughts like shit, what if she is too crazy for me in bed?? She's starting to scratch me back and grab my crotch. What if she's some kind of ultra strong dominatrix? The girl has a fucking MBA and I asked her what she did for a living. She was a stripper. Everything finally made sense.

She was doing things to turn me on and kept pulling back and forth when it came to kissing. She grabbed my hands put them firmly on her ass a few times. She was waiting for a friends. She eventually asked where I lived and asked how old I was and kept telling me I was a Libra and she was a Scorpio so we wouldn't get along, she was into older men and kept saying I was too young.."you're a baby!". The vibe was so sexual between us. By the time 12 rolled around I told her she didn't have friends tonight so lets go. She kept resisting and saying I was way to young. (I have been getting this question A LOT so I am trying to change the subject) She eventually left to the bathroom and said if I stayed in that spot maybe we'd go home together. She left and I walked around and started approaching other girls. I later found her again, she started leading me to her friends. I met her friends and talked for a bit, they went to some club. I didn't want to tag along so I went and did my own thing. I did number close her after pressing her like 5 times for it over the course of the night.

1:30 rolls around and people start gathering outside the venues. I start doing street game, which is my favorite (people are so easy to talk to here). I saw this group of 20 girls and told myself to find every possible way to step my comfort zone..

ME:SO much blond hair over here!
THEM: Yeah blah blah balh
ME: We can chop it off and make a wig and even chop off mine, mix it and have an emo wig (my black hair)

I stood around and talked to them for a while and talked to the other girls. It was a bachelorette party waiting for their party bus to arrive and take them home. The hot blond girl asked for my name, I didn't follow her up for some reason since my head wasn't there.

Here is a place where I fucked up in street. NEVER say a random Pokemon for an opener to a group of Asian girls. Honestly, this comment was not even made out of the fact that they were asian. I just thought of Pikachu while walking by myself, turned to the first group I saw and started saying "Pikachu...Pikachu (in my own voice, not in that gay ass pokemon voice)". The girl starts cussing me out she was so angry. My bad...guess I can only say that to non-asians.

I later saw some guy talking to this Asian girl, I decided to wing for him and help him and out a try talking him up to the girl. She blew him and out she became interested in me. I didn't stick around too long, but eventually ran into her again. Her friend kept telling her to take down my number when we talked. I was simply relating to her as a friend. I eventually put my number into her phone and told her to call me so I could have hers. Her friends start telling me I have a nice chest and start unbuttoning my shirt. They thought it was funny that I did not react. Eventually she's like, "wanna buy her a hot dog." I just started laughing and began accusing them of using me. Later on I headed him with my friend and get a call from this girl.

ME:Is this a booty call? Did your booty dial my number?
Her: No I am calling you to tell you I will remember you!
ME: That's right!
Her: I know I'm weird for calling
Me: Actually I think your confident as shit because no other girl has EVER called me like this.
Her: Your really confident because you just came up and started talking to us. (yesss thanks for the ego boost)

Eventually the conversation led to planning for a day 2 coffee. What a great night!

For some reason I get all down thinking I am not making it because of my criteria for success, but simply typing out this FR makes me think, "Stop getting down on yourself fuck face, look at the life you're living!"

Something I realized, I think I come across gamey, so I am working towards getting rid of it all.

9.5.11

I went out Sunday night to join a friend at a bar. He was with a friend that he probably took home. I first walked in, went to the bathroom because I felt like throwing up (asthma), got over it and headed to the dance floor. First group (7) of girls I saw I went in to join their circle. My energy level was almost there, but not unstifled enough for them to let me stick around. My energy was like...ohh ohh almost there...ALMOST there...uhh fuck...didn't make it. I tried talking to one of them, but she was not having it. I eventually left the group and went to the bar to grab water.

I saw a girl and put my hand on top of her head and just left it there for a second. She turned to look at me, I continued doing random eccentric shit and told her she's like a helpless innocent animal that I keep poking with a stick. That lulled over.

Went over to this group of Asian girls (3), began talking to them, asked chode questions as that feeling of relaxed arousal and self amusement was not there yet. Turned out they were visiting from Portland. Eventually the guys join the table and their frame was more confident than mine at the time. I eventually left and opened a couple of girls sitting outside the patio area at about 9:30pm and talked for about an hour. These girls were cool, they could carry the conversation and thought I was bold for approaching them when hardly anyone was in the venue yet. At around 12 the venue got pretty busy for a Sunday (of course its Labor Day weekend). I talked to a few more sets and headed home.


9.6.11

Day Game

After Sunday night I realized my head has not been in the right headspace. I have lost a bit of motivation and passion for the journey. So Monday I journaled towards getting my head back into the right head space. I had to realize that the Universe will reward those who engage with it. I woke up this morning with a smile and headed out to do some day.

These approaches take place from 12 - 1pm. I try to hit up girls during their lunch hour downtown. Common reason for leaving: I have to get back to work, which is true, but a couple minutes of a good interaction won't be a big deal.

1. While walking to the bus stop I saw a girl through the window standing inside this building. I turned back around, walked towards the building and

Me: Hey I was walking passed and thought you were cute, you look beautiful with your hair all curled out like that.
Her:Thank you (with a slightly awkward response)
Me: Are you working right now? (I am working on making more statements, should have said something like, "you look like your waiting for someone")
Her: No I am waiting for someone to pick me up.

FUCK I don't feel like writing an FR right now lol I am just going to rush through it.

2. HB7.5 I see this girl walking with this short white skirt and cute jacket. I stopped her and complimented her coat even though her skirt made me wanna bang. She was off to work. When I complimented her she said thanks and started walking again. I asked if I could talk to her for a couple minutes. She found out my age and I found out she was 24. She became distant at that point. Eventually headed off to work.


3. She was sitting on a bench next to a bus stop.
Me: I saw you from across the street and thought you looked beautiful with your hair like that. (As I got closer I realized she wasn't that cute)
Her: Thanks. (Continues looking at her iphone).
Me: You waiting for the bus?
Her: Yes.
Me: (after a few more exchanges) It was good meeting you, bye.

I think it's rude when people keep looking at their phone, but I realized that this is under my control. If she was gorgeous my compliment would have been specific and super genuine. It wasn't, but this took a hit on my courage to continue approaching. The next 20 minutes I was just walking around. All of a sudden I see 2 cute girls within my vicinity, but didn't ball up to approach.

4. HB8 Later on I see the girl I didn't ball up to approach. I was feeling nervous. I went up to her
Me: Hey I was about to walk by and thought you looked gorgeous in this dress.
Her: Thank you! (She took this so genuinely. I think she felt my nervous energy so responded well to it all).
Me: Where you off to? (Need to make statements here!)
Her: Oh I am going to work.What do you do?
Me: I make pizza! (summer job. A part of me feels a bit self conscious that I make pizza when I am talking to a young professional, but fuck this! So what? All that matters is how I talk about it. If I talk about it with a downer tone voice. I am going to receive a downer reaction.)
Her: Oh cool...blah blah blah (she eventually has to head back to work.)

This last girl was encouraging for my nerves. I pushed ahead. I just wanted to get rid of the mask I could hear myself wearing. If I can completely be my best self and get rid of that mask I can have amazing interactions with these girls.)

5. HB7.5 I see thie girl sitting on some stairs taking a picture of a sky scraper.
Me: (I walk up the stairs and try to feel out for a decent distance to open. I smile) Hey I just saw you taking a picture and thought you looked beautiful.(Tired of these boring lines. I'm working my way out of the nerves.NEXT time...or SOME day something self entertaining and rediculous. The other day I stopped a girl and complimented her for purple bandaid, but I want to take it much further. Jeffy HotSeat sounds amazing!).
Her: Thanks (then she kind of had an "okay..." tone of voice at the end and I fell into her frame as I laughed at the end of my opener)
Me: (Pull out my phone) Even though this phone kind of sucks, it takes AMAZING pictures.
Her: You gotta get an inphone.
Me: Is that what you have?
Her: Yeah
Mel: (I proceed to show her pictures my phone takes. I am still not feeling that unstifled incredible freedom to be me)
We continue conversing for a few moments and she heads out.


Reflection:
Funny how you can see my unstifled state reflect my words and actions in my interactions. Ever since I started working, I have stopped eating my veges, started a little more than 1 meal a day, forgotten to take my vitamins regularly and eat shittier food (Pizza from work, to easy to eat when your busy, but there is no excuse) and stopped swimming for exercise. In this post alone you can probably hear my low energy. I have felt a bit stagnant, which took me a couple of days to realize. I am working towards bringing my mood back by eating better and regulating my thoughts. Having felt a bit discouraged lately when it comes to career has impacted my mood. I figure as long as I search for my passion the Universe will bring it to me. Pumping my level of relentless perseverance, ambition, passion for game (and career) is important right now.

I want to go out tonight, but the housemates just threw in Toy Story 3. What a reason not to go out lol. How comfortable of me. I might push myself to go out for an hour or so.

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9.6.11

I went out last night by myself. My goal was to have freedom of outcome (which I kept telling myself on the bus ride there). Not to think. To be dominant in my approaches. To Trust in the Process (A forum post I read) and just be as natural as possible.

I Hit up an area that usually has something going on each day of the week as I found out through one of my interactions. I was a bit nervous at first walking in by myself into a bar so I headed straight to the bathroom. I saw this girl look at him and kind of give me this challenging look, but at the same time an approach invitation. Why was she doing this despite not even being attractive? Who knows. Maybe she was actually pretty cool. I go to grab water and just say hi to my first girl just to warm up. I start moving away and see another girl and start self amusing myself, she's having fun, but I am not attracted to her. I saw a cute girl at the bar, but didn't ball up to approach
Finally I land a set for an hour and half.

3. I walk up dominantly to this girl sitting by herself and open. I am not attracted to her body, but her feminity just starts to come right out. I had planned on this being more of a warm up. I don't remember what I said, but she asked me what I was drinking as she thought I was already wasted. (I don't actually drink at all).

Her:Oh that's water.
Me: (There was with colorful light right over our head a couple colors were red and amber. I hold my water up to the light) It could be a long Island...or a beer. (I was so fucking chill right here not even caring)
Her: hahaha (conversation starts.

The cute girl at the bar ends up being one of her friends so we all talk for an hour and a half. I stuck it through and worked on not trying and letting things flow naturally. It's hard to find girls that can carry conversations, but these girls definitely could carry it really well so not all the pressure was on me. There were times were I just got into my head and felt nervous, but quickly shifted to just feeling the moment.

4. As I waited for my ride I opened 2 lesbians and started talking about how I go to venue x every now and then.

Her: A lesbian bar?
Me: Yeah I was walking by a couple of Tuesday's ago, saw it was packed and got all excited. I didn't know there was a place to go out dancing on a Tuesdau. Btw I know its a lesbian bar so I don't go here to hit on girls.
Her: Oh definitely I can tell.
Me: Oh thanks! Wait is it the way I look? Do you think I am gay? (I beat around the bush with this question, I wanted to ask if she thought I was gay so she assumed I was not going to hit on girls.)
Her: You do dress a bit metro, but no I didn't think that. I can just tell your not a sleazy guy like all the other one's in there.
Me:Thanks!

I wanted to hear this. It's really nice to get verbal feedback from people and especialy strangers who have no reason not to tell you the truth. My vibe is clean. YES! I wanted to continue going to that Lesbian bar because I genuinely enjoy being around women even if they are just friends. I actually really want more close female friends in my life. Like multiple social cirlces of girls I can just hang out with because I fucking love their energy. I just have a fucking good time.
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9.9.11

What a rough night! I went out to the bars where a lot of college, sorority, fraternity and young professionals hang out. So many sets turned me away or things lulled over seconds after entering set. I decided not to be fun and entertaining tonight. What kept happening last week was girls found me funny at first, but then I got too eccentric so they would just turn their backs to me. I was just opening with "hey" and not trying, and letting things come to mind...but nothing came to mind AT all tonight. I think I took not being self amusing too far. I got stressed through out the night and did not have fun at all. I lost purpose in pick up...which is to have fun first off. I definitely approached more than 20 sets. Thank god my friends were there to help pick up my mood at some point during the night. How crazy. After my friends opened and pulled me into their set, things started picking up from there. I began doing street around 1:30, things continued picking up. I was having fun out there...thank God, it was what made the night rewarding after having been turned down so much.

I did notice that 3-4 girls told me not to touch them, when I touched their arm to open. Next time I'll just tap and then open.

At times I got all concerned with self image because I would be seeing these girls likely again, maybe on campus or maybe at the bars. I just have to get over whatever useless shameful reasons/feeling I have.

Honestly, I am still confused as to what else I could improve and change. MY vibe was definitely not there tonight. Anyone have any suggestions?
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9.7.11

Today I realized that I MUST keep sight of my goals in pick up. I must actually have goals. Lately I have been losing motivation and regaining, sustaining it for a few days, but losing it again. I am taking corrective action to sustain this perminantly.

Thoughts of my Ex have been coming back a lot. People might say this is scarcity, but she continually comes back to mind for reasons of her character that I have not found to her extent in other girls. I must remind myself that I want a lifestyle with an abundance of women. My journey is to handle this part of my life for the next year or so. If I find another quality girl maybe I will step into a relationship, but I won't plan for it because that may make me lose sight of my goals. Thinking about my Ex only disuades me from these goals. I will create some kind of plan to help get me there.

1. This was my first approach of the day. I wanted to just get into a conversation with an attractive woman. I see this woman walking and stops at the cross walk. I turn around..

Me:Hey I just saw you and thought you had this beautiful hair so I wanted to come meet you.
Her: (can't remember what she said, but she was flattered).

We continued our conversation for about 15 minutes. We talked about passions, etc., I had her laughing every couple of minuets or so to keep things light and fun. My age came up and she said she was 28 and started to get distant. Quickly I stated, "I'm aware of the age difference, its totally cool." That basicaly took the pressure off of older women talking to me I decided. She eventually headed off to work and I was just happy about having a good interaction.

2. I couldn't find another girl to approach so I headed back to my part of the city. I eventually helped a friend move for a few hours, left and headed over to the store to buy some better deoderant. As I was about to walk into the store I see this cute blond girl walk out. I quickly run, catch up, and stop in front of her and tell her that I thought she was cute so I wanted to come meet her. We talked about our majors, plans, her sorority, passions, etc. She turned out to be a social girl. We agreed to have lunch the next day. I ended up being in downtown during the time that she was free. Next time I will plan the second we agree to meet up.

I was happy about a great interaction, number close, continual texting. To me this is progress.

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I approached just 2 girls today. My nerves were up and I was feeling unsettled and just not in the mood. I headed out toward the busy part of the city. I see 3 attractive girls in 5 minutes. WHY the fuck did I not approach? They ended up being the only attractive girls I saw that day. I approached my first girl...
1. She is standing at the cross walk. I say..
Me:Excuse (not very expressive)
Her: Hi
Me: I just saw you and thought you were cute.
Her: (turns out she's foreign so we have a fucking language barrier, I am too lazy to try and make these happen, but then again my head was not there). OH thanks
Me: You're not from Seattle, where are you from? (I can't really remember the rest) She says she has to catch an appointment and heads out.

2. I see the girl walking out of Barns and Noble, I stop and wait for her to come out, I pass her by, turn around, catch up to her and stop her despite being too abrupt that she kind of jumps.
Me: Hey I just saw you walking by and thought you beautiful blond hair.
Her: Oh thanks..(I can never remember the responses, this is just the general mood)
Me:Did you grab a book from there?
Her: No I got a magazine,
Me: oh (some stuttering, not knowing what to say, nervousness)

The thing eventually ends. Promise I will try and remember more of these details. I am not feeling that great and purchased "Think and Grow Rich:" Hopefully I can use this in terms of women to help fire up my ambition and desire to carry me through more pick ups.

NIGHT
Recap: 15-20 sets
I originally went out solo tonight. As I walked out of my house I hear people screaming my name and this girl and guy jump out of this SUV and run up give me this huge hug. What a fucking great reminder of how much my close friends appreciate me. Turned out to be my roommate from 3 years ago and his best friend. I rolled with 2 gay guys and hot blond (man she's grown into her looks). What I experienced was interesting. I got to feel the centered feeling I resonate towards girls that I am somewhat attracted to, but not enough to sleep with. I would feel girls get into me to a certain level and not be too into them and then move onto the next girl. I began carrying this abundance around the venue. Super interesting. I had this previous guilt from religion and upbringing "its not okay to talk to more than 1 girl at a time." I am getting over that still. Some of the worst bullshit I ever swallowed. Then when it came to a girl that I felt was out of my league from a distance, I began trying not to think and not to try and eventually dismissed myself from the group. I pretty much fell silent and lost my icyness. Cannot wait to get past this! Great reference experience last night. Funny how what you read about concepts makes for a completely different story that cannot be put into words once felt. Towards the end of the night I was feeling a bit down with everything. I told myself to find a way to get into a group of girls and anticipate a good response. I walk into another venue alone by this point, grab water, find the tall asian girl I saw initially, and approach. We talk for 5 min and she introduces me to her friends. I have an interesting conversation with this girl who's dad passed away and they find out he was a government assassin in Vietnam and apparently killed a shit load of people. He was super saturated alpha and was an alcoholic. Used to pull out his guns and "clean" then when she brought home boys.

1. HB7.5 I saw this cute Asian girl walk into a venue next door as I walked into another with a few friends. I left them for a bit and found her sitting at the bar.
Me: Hey, I saw you walk into here earlier and thought you were cute and wanted to come meet you.

Can't remember what she said, but she was having it. She had just met the woman and man she was sitting in between. I asked how the woman and man knew each other, they were long time friends. I continued talking to the girl, then started talking to the woman, then the man started talking to the girl. At this point I didn't know how to get back into conversation with the girl. What I realized was, this woman was the man's wingwoman, which was why they just kept looking at me.

2. On the dancefloor at another venue I just kept walking up to groups of girls, grabbing their hands and started dancing. This is too easy now lol. I used to be so fucking intrigued when other guys could get girls to dance with them. I guess in a dark loud venue, you don't need to talk at all.

3. HB7 I see this tall blond and walk up to her, but could not not try. I tried just saying "hey" and tried to pull the social pressure on her, but that shit did not work until I found a girl that was attractive to other people, but I was not as attracted to her.

4. HB7 I walk up to this girl and just look at her, kind of smiling and she starts asking me questions, I take long ass pauses to answer, she starts trying and is instantly attracted. My friend comes up to her (gay friend), starts talking to her, he's probably saying shit to her to help get me laid, I turn around and open another girl and I meet her friends. The original girl grabs my ass as she walks by and smiles at me.

5. I move on from this set and see this girl sitting by herself so I start talking to her, put my arm over her, and see this HB8.5 walk by, I grab her wrist and pull her in, put my other arm over her and start talking. This guy she is with says, that's my girl. I assumed girlfriend for some stupid reason. This guy was just being a chode, but I guess I am actually upset with myself for not even making out with this girl because she made it pretty obvious. Eventually she left to the dance floor with him.

6. At this point I walk out onto the street, my verbals are not there, but I open these two cute girls with hey. I began asking chode questions. The conversation lulled so I left as they kept girl coding each other.

7. I walk into another bar and see a group of girls with one guy. I automatically just say hey and start talking to one of the girls, but touched her arm as I said hey, she backs away and is weirded out that I touched her probably for too long instead of a tap. This turns to nothing.
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9.8.11

I approached just 2 girls today. My nerves were up and I was feeling unsettled and just not in the mood. I headed out toward the busy part of the city. I see 3 attractive girls in 5 minutes. WHY the fuck did I not approach? They ended up being the only attractive girls I saw that day. I approached my first girl...
1. She is standing at the cross walk. I say..
Me:Excuse (not very expressive)
Her: Hi
Me: I just saw you and thought you were cute.
Her: (turns out she's foreign so we have a fucking language barrier, I am too lazy to try and make these happen, but then again my head was not there). OH thanks
Me: You're not from Seattle, where are you from? (I can't really remember the rest) She says she has to catch an appointment and heads out.

2. I see the girl walking out of Barns and Noble, I stop and wait for her to come out, I pass her by, turn around, catch up to her and stop her despite being too abrupt that she kind of jumps.
Me: Hey I just saw you walking by and thought you beautiful blond hair.
Her: Oh thanks..(I can never remember the responses, this is just the general mood)
Me:Did you grab a book from there?
Her: No I got a magazine,
Me: oh (some stuttering, not knowing what to say, nervousness)

The thing eventually ends. Promise I will try and remember more of these details. I am not feeling that great and purchased "Think and Grow Rich:" Hopefully I can use this in terms of women to help fire up my ambition and desire to carry me through more pick ups.

NIGHT
Recap: 15-20 sets
I originally went out solo tonight. As I walked out of my house I hear people screaming my name and this girl and guy jump out of this SUV and run up give me this huge hug. What a fucking great reminder of how much my close friends appreciate me. Turned out to be my roommate from 3 years ago and his best friend. I rolled with 2 gay guys and hot blond (man she's grown into her looks). What I experienced was interesting. I got to feel the centered feeling I resonate towards girls that I am somewhat attracted to, but not enough to sleep with. I would feel girls get into me to a certain level and not be too into them and then move onto the next girl. I began carrying this abundance around the venue. Super interesting. I had this previous guilt from religion and upbringing "its not okay to talk to more than 1 girl at a time." I am getting over that still. Some of the worst bullshit I ever swallowed. Then when it came to a girl that I felt was out of my league from a distance, I began trying not to think and not to try and eventually dismissed myself from the group. I pretty much fell silent and lost my icyness. Cannot wait to get past this! Great reference experience last night. Funny how what you read about concepts makes for a completely different story that cannot be put into words once felt. Towards the end of the night I was feeling a bit down with everything. I told myself to find a way to get into a group of girls and anticipate a good response. I walk into another venue alone by this point, grab water, find the tall asian girl I saw initially, and approach. We talk for 5 min and she introduces me to her friends. I have an interesting conversation with this girl who's dad passed away and they find out he was a government assassin in Vietnam and apparently killed a shit load of people. He was super saturated alpha and was an alcoholic. Used to pull out his guns and "clean" then when she brought home boys.

1. HB7.5 I saw this cute Asian girl walk into a venue next door as I walked into another with a few friends. I left them for a bit and found her sitting at the bar.
Me: Hey, I saw you walk into here earlier and thought you were cute and wanted to come meet you.

Can't remember what she said, but she was having it. She had just met the woman and man she was sitting in between. I asked how the woman and man knew each other, they were long time friends. I continued talking to the girl, then started talking to the woman, then the man started talking to the girl. At this point I didn't know how to get back into conversation with the girl. What I realized was, this woman was the man's wingwoman, which was why they just kept looking at me.

2. On the dancefloor at another venue I just kept walking up to groups of girls, grabbing their hands and started dancing. This is too easy now lol. I used to be so fucking intrigued when other guys could get girls to dance with them. I guess in a dark loud venue, you don't need to talk at all.

3. HB7 I see this tall blond and walk up to her, but could not not try. I tried just saying "hey" and tried to pull the social pressure on her, but that shit did not work until I found a girl that was attractive to other people, but I was not as attracted to her.

4. HB7 I walk up to this girl and just look at her, kind of smiling and she starts asking me questions, I take long ass pauses to answer, she starts trying and is instantly attracted. My friend comes up to her (gay friend), starts talking to her, he's probably saying shit to her to help get me laid, I turn around and open another girl and I meet her friends. The original girl grabs my ass as she walks by and smiles at me.

5. I move on from this set and see this girl sitting by herself so I start talking to her, put my arm over her, and see this HB8.5 walk by, I grab her wrist and pull her in, put my other arm over her and start talking. This guy she is with says, that's my girl. I assumed girlfriend for some stupid reason. This guy was just being a chode, but I guess I am actually upset with myself for not even making out with this girl because she made it pretty obvious. Eventually she left to the dance floor with him.

6. At this point I walk out onto the street, my verbals are not there, but I open these two cute girls with hey. I began asking chode questions. The conversation lulled so I left as they kept girl coding each other.

7. I walk into another bar and see a group of girls with one guy. I automatically just say hey and start talking to one of the girls, but touched her arm as I said hey, she backs away and is weirded out that I touched her probably for too long instead of a tap. This turns to nothing.
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awesome fr,  I know for sure I'll be trying the pickachu opener next time LOL
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Yeah dude, I had such an awesome night and I figured you just did okay cause you weren't in state like I was...then I find out you had a solid interaction with a model, madeout with a stripper and then you get a booty call at 2:00 am from a girl you just met. Enjoy this shit man, the journey is half the fun!
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Ya, this is why you gotta write up FRs.

I didn't know you liked street game.  Next time we're up in B'town, we'll burn up that street, beastn on every fucken chick that walks that fucken block.  I like streetgame better than Amber, shit is wide open and shit.  Also, the bitches are hotter on the street.
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 Yeah man I definitely enjoy it. I feel far more natural out there. 
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keep going bro, good reports and more sucess to come!
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 After last night, anyone have any suggestions? FUCKK I'm going out again tonight to make things work...oh and have fun in the process lol
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 9.9.11

What a rough night! I went out to the bars where a lot of college, sorority, fraternity and young professionals hang out. So many sets turned me away or things lulled over seconds after entering set. I decided not to be fun and entertaining tonight. What kept happening last week was girls found me funny at first, but then I got too eccentric so they would just turn their backs to me. I was just opening with "hey" and not trying, and letting things come to mind...but nothing came to mind AT all tonight. I think I took not being self amusing too far. I got stressed through out the night and did not have fun at all. I lost purpose in pick up...which is to have fun first off. I definitely approached more than 20 sets. Thank god my friends were there to help pick up my mood at some point during the night. How crazy. After my friends opened and pulled me into their set, things started picking up from there. I began doing street around 1:30, things continued picking up. I was having fun out there...thank God, it was what made the night rewarding after having been turned down so much.

I did notice that 3-4 girls told me not to touch them, when I touched their arm to open. Next time I'll just tap and then open.

At times I got all concerned with self image because I would be seeing these girls likely again, maybe on campus or maybe at the bars. I just have to get over whatever useless shameful reasons/feeling I have.

Honestly, I am still confused as to what else I could improve and change. MY vibe was definitely not there tonight. Anyone have any suggestions?
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 9.10.11

Alright fuck my shitty mindset. Tonight I went out to have fun. I focused JUST on having fun. Worked a 10 hour day yesterday and 13 hours today...that was not going to stop me from having an awesome night. People usually say they are too tired to go out. I'm making this into what it's suppose to be...something that propetuates my life in incredible positive aspects. Focusing on this tonight had girls reacting to me much differently than last night. 

Just as I walked down the block at 12:30am I was already enjoying myself (enjoying my own energy). Girls were looking over and just locking eye contact with me and feeling my energy. 

Last night consisted of a lot of low energy and feeling pretty bad having been blown out of so many sets...Interesting that going out tonight and focusing on the fact that I was having fun made any rejection not matter. They just got brushed off. Having had a rough few days going out I seem to have this automatic impulse inside that does not fear approaching, but fears a bad reaction right after I step up to the girls. This is changing. This WILL change. This will be the week that I turn things around. This is what I want and I am going to make it happen no matter what. 
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I think you just need to figure out what gets you in state and do that. You have so much awareness of what's making you feel a certain way at any given moment that I'd assume you could narrow down what makes you feel good. It doesn't even have to be that amazing/unbreakable state where you feel unstoppable, just enough that you're enjoying yourself rather than feeling down or pressured.

I feel like I've had huge breakthroughs the past 2 weekends and it's really made me realize how my vibe is infinitely more important than the details of the interaction. I did one of those "unapproachable" sets last night, leaning past friends and over the railing to open a the hottest girl at the bar, didn't say anthing cool or funny, but it worked just because of how I was feeling.

Maybe try lowering your criteria for success too. I've told you this, but I go out with the mindset that even if the worst case scenario happens (not hooking anything) I'll still have learned something and probably enjoyed hanging out with my friends. Ironically, the more I feel like this (usually on a saturday after a good thursday/friday) the better the night ends up being. You really don't need to force this - just take right action, enjoy the process and let it happen.

Accept the fact that thee's gonna be some bad nights (I've had tons, many where I couldn't even get myself to approach) and just keep at it. At this point there shouldn't be any doubt in your mind that this shit works, so there's really no reason to worry so much.

Cheers man, good seeing you this weekend.




muzzi17 wrote:
 9.9.11

Honestly, I am still confused as to what else I could improve and change. MY vibe was definitely not there tonight. Anyone have any suggestions?
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