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#71
ChinaBoy~

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 The frustration comes from high criteria for success. My criteria for success should be: "Approach."

Because i set the bar higher than approach, that´s why i was getting frustrated when nothing hooked.

Alex: "It´s all good"

I lack the self trust. Watching Alex´s video of how he pulled a girl in 20 min to the toilet, without much physicality beforehand was outside my reality. It´s all about self trust and you are enough. Want to develop the invisible game, nothing flashy (aka trying to impress the spectators/friends/etc.).

I get confused sometimes. Now i know why. It´s the "haha...but no" type of girls, gotta screen them out as quickly as possible if it´s towards the end of the night. If it´s early it´s good just to make friends and be more social.

Alex:
He´s against into actively doing something (aka approach). He just trusts himself that something will may come up, so he´s just relaxed and social. This is the opposite of Tyler´s Cyborg style of approaching everything in the venue and burning it down (well it´s actually quite fun for me).

No more beastmode. No more being overtly agressive to show off my dominance. I am enough. No need to convey value because I am "valuable". My approach is just "Hey, I am Ivi" This is good for reinforcing this whole "I am enough".

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 The shift towards "You are enough"

I think i read/watched/listened to like 80-90% of RSD stuff.

I took out mostly from Jeffy (beastmode, being agressive), Tyler (social momentum-always be approaching or in a set, cyborg style-burning clubs down), Brad (convey value through tonality and EC, be higher value). I think this reinforced the "I am not enough" mindset.

After the Alexander and Jeffy bootcamp. I am starting to focus on "I am enough". The program (from Alex´s side) was all about "I am enough".

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Dr Feelgood

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You are brutally honest to yourself, I like that! You got some qualities that will make this shit work for you sooner or later. Stay on it, I know you will!

Have been starting a journal myself now, don't know how often I will post though, posting is not a priority.
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 @Dr Feelgood:

Thanks man. Like Alex said: " You cannot NOT get good at this"

I recommend posting everyday (that also means going out everyday haha).

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It's saturday night, my friend! You know what you have to do, he he..!
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#76
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 @DR Feelgood: Rock on"

24.9.2011 night

LR: Lost my virginity 1 week after bootcamp. Street pull.

Went out at 11 PM with one guy from the forum (didn´t saw him approaching yesterday). Kinda nervous. Went to 2faces at 11:30 PM.

Go upstairs and approach some girls. They seem friendly. We talk, I remember thein names (like usual). Upstairs is a birthday party so we intruded a Bday party. A approach a girl. Then her friend (SmallBlondie) comes up, while the originál girl walks off, i hug and 3 kissed her friend and kissed her on the lips. She goes away.

Do something downstairs that i do not even remember. I just remember that me and my friend were constantly going up and down, looking for girls to meet.

Haha…but no girl into peck on the lips
Approach 2 girls on the bar. They were laughing at everything i said, but refused to me to lead them. I wanted them to come off the chair and hug me. No go. So we talked more and i concluded that they are the „haha…but no“.

Then we meet them again. This time i hug one of them. 3 kisses and peck on the lips. I get her number and facebook.

Then reapproach. This time the bartender keeps asking me if i want to buy any drinks for the ladies. I keep telling him no. Honestly i got a bit bothered when i was there. It fucked up my flow. Then i talk to my friend and i can see him talking to them, most likely about me.

Kinda fucked up my mood when i was thinking about that in the club. Approaching other girls got me to forgot about this. I was in a bad mood but i approached some girls anyway. Blown out.

Then reapproached them several times. This time she wasn´t receptive to my leading. Always no. So after like another 2 reapproaches I said fuck this shit.

Everytime she showed resistance i cracked up. It was amusing to me. I say some shit and then do a facial expression of disbelief (the WTF? Look), because i say some shit and than laugh at it. This is amusing. I love this. Talking shit, giving a disbelieved look (wtf did i just say?) and laughing at it.

Smallblondie
Reapproach her. Tell her let´s sit down. Lead her to another place and we sit down. I am talking, but she´s not very receptive, not even looking at me. I call her out on this and she tells me she doesn´t feel good tonight (that she didn´t wanted to go out).

Reapproach her a few times. Nothing.

Slovakian blonde
See this lonely girl standing. Approach her. Hug, 3 kisses. Talk a bit. Try to isolate her after like 1-2 min. No go.

Then some guy bumps into her. I take the oportunity and pull her away a bit so people do not bump into her. Then some people bump into me. So I lead her to the bar. We talk. She´s into me. Found out that she´s here only 4 days and has to go home with her friends cuz she doesn´t know how to get home (yeah, freshmen chips new in the Down, same as the BH girl).

She gives me her FB. No number cuz she has a new number and has her phone somewhere else. Tells me she´s gonna give mer her number on facebook.

Reapproach. We go dance together (meet her friends). Then she runs off to find her friend. I go away.

Then see her going again to the dancefloor, grab her hand, she walks away. I am thinking: Maybe i fucked it up. Whateva. (But i had a lot of experiences where it would go well, then when i try to grab them as they are walking they completely ignore my grabbing -like an automatic response. And then after another reapproach he´s all into me)

I talk to my friend, i see her going away. I go after her. Tell her to give me her number. Again, her phone not with her. I ask: „Honestly, do you wanna give me your number?“ „Yeah, of course, blabla, I am gonna give it to you on facebook“ This seemed honest to me. Hug,3 kisses. Try for the lips, no go. She goes away.

Polish girl
I see a chick that looks fammiliar to me. I go up to her and she´s like: „Hey, it´s the chinese turkish guy“. I am like WTF? You got an awesome memory. She´s the polish girl. We talk a bit and then they excuse themselves. I guess they are not into me.

It´s a group of 4 chicks. 2 of them are hot. 2 of them are cute. Ah, polish chicks, so hot.

Very hot blackhaired chick- getting out of my comfort zone
I am with my friend upstairs and look down at then dancefloor. See this chick dancing by herself. Quite the center of the attention. Guys looking at her.

I tell my friend i am gonna do this. Cuz there´s a chode like dancing 1 meter in front of her. He´s down the stage and she´s on the stage.

I go downstairs and see all the dudes just looking at her. I do not want to do this. I go up. Grab her by the neck (haven´t done this since bootcamp). Intro. Hug. 3 kisses. I try to spin handshake no go. Some more non receptivity and i give up cuz i feel underpressure, cuz like quarter of the club is looking at her.

I go away with an expression that i am weirded out by this. I love doing weird facial expressions after a blowout or a funny ocurement.

At 3 AM my friend decides to leave. I think it over, well, i have approached everything (except some mixed sets and some couples), I want to do daygame tommorow, let´s go home and sleep. This is not a good idea, it´s better to stay till closing time (for pulling)

LR: Blondie street pull
I say bye to my friend. See a chick sitting by herself. I am telling myself: „I do not want to do this“. I start to walk up to her, before i even walk up to her she starts to smile. Intro. Hug. 3 Kisses. Peck on the lips. Talk. Were close together, hugging cuz it´s cold. I ask her about logistics, she´s here alone, no work tommorow, lives a bit away (15-30 min?)

We talk. She´s not really keen with sparing things about herself. I ask her if she has some hobbies like a dog or something. She starts to cry that she can´t have a dog cuz she has cats. 1st thought was WTF am i going to do. 2nd though-you lead the interaction. I started talking about traveling, her mood changes.

I try to isolate her in baby steps. Let´s go sit over there and point at a place that´s like 5 meters from us. No go. We talk some more and her friends come. They give her a cardigan, phone, keys. I introduce myself, they leave after this. We talk some more.

I isolate her to that place i wanted before. We talk. She keeps telling me that i am: handsome, awesome, that she likes me, that she´s scared but having a good time, that she´s happy and that she didn´t said the word happy in a long time.

BTW: she threw in some shittests. I was not even aware of them or i just do not remember. But i was unreactive or i laughed at it.

I tell her about the places i have been last 2 months. I tell her about my pics, ask her is she wants to see them. Yes. After some chit chat i tell her let´s go. We start to walk to my place (which is btw like 3-5 mins from the club, love that i am living in the center of Brno). Some hugging on the way.

Wait for people to walk past the entrance of my appartment building. Go there, open the door, she doesn´t want to come in. I look at her, say something, lead her gently inside.

We go to the elevator. Inside the elevator she covers her face and looks scared. Well, i was like WTF? Some thoughts about not wanting to get fucked? She tells me she´s scared of elevators. Meeting to stepping into my house was approximately 20-35 min.

We go inside. Shoes off. Into my room. I tell her to sit down and i´ll show her my pics. She sits on my lap cuz it´s the only place to sit. She says sometinh like she doesn´t want to see the pics. So i pick her up and lay her on the bed. Makeout. It gets hot, She has to pee. Let her pee while i troll on facebook. She keeps telling me that i want to kill her or she´ll kill me.

She comes back. We makeout. She´s like i am gonna take of my clothes, is that ok? Sure. I take off her shirt, take off her pants. We kiss. Then she ges on top of me and is grinding on my dick.
After a while I dominate her so she´ll suck my cock. Teeth again. ARGGG. It hurts. 2nd blowjob in my life and all of them hurt because of the teeth.

After a while i was like I wanna taste it. Lick it for like 30 sec. She´s like she wants it inside. Kiss her while i put on a condom. Fuck her from behind. Remembered Tyler saying that people who finaly get laid are like: „This is sex?so much work for this?“. Haha, i was thinking the same. I had too high expectations of sex.

Then some other positions, cowgirl while i put my Finger in her ass and let her lick the finger. She gets a hiccup while we´re in missionary. I finish inside of her with a condom.

Then a BJ while i tape it. A few pics. She tells me that she a teacher and i fuck the teacher, take pics and show it to classmates. Some shit about pics, i tell her it´s just for me and my grandchildren when i am like 80 that i am gonna show them (self amusement).

Try to fuck her for the next 2 hours. But can´t keep it hard. While fucking i was just getting into it, then my mom opens the door, we look at her, she has some weird look on her face and closes the door. I start fucking her again. While smilling like a retard (wanted to crack up, but hold back). This fucked up my immersion and i couldn´t keep it hard.

She tells me to lock the door so i do. We go sleep. Slept like 4-5 hours. Now she´s sleeping, gonna fuck her again and send her home. Gonna make sure that she saves her name. Maybe gonna make her my FB, but do not know yet cuz all that talk about me killing her was not usual for me. I personaly think that that´s crazy.

This pull was quite easy. Got some resistance, but not that heavy like with those previous 2 virgins. No LMR.

Let her reinforce the belief that girls love sex. Dirty talk (had her telling me that she´s my slut). Had her telling me to fuck her anyway i want, she watches porn, masturbates, loves BJs.

She´s 28, self employed hair dresser. Found that out after fucking her. Hahaha, Tim: „Rapport is after sex“. I consumed way too much RSD material (Love RSD)

Conclusion:
-4 hours infield
-Also made some guy friends, just talking, asking if they have a good night, etc.
-some pecks on the lips
-some FBs, 2 numbers
-Some girl recognized me, i did not, cuz i met so many girls. They were like you met up yesterday. I can remember names of most of the girls/guys for the night, maybe even more nights.

Lessons:
-Do not let other people fuck up your mood. Fuck the bartender, so he doesn´t likes me. Maybe befriending would be a good idea but i do not think so, better is just to ignore it.
-Recognize the „haha…but no“ girl, talk to them to get more talkative, make friends with them, have them introduce you to thein friends.
-I get a lot of hot and cold stuff. So when she ges cold, just ignore it and reapproach her a few times. Maybe it will change (I already do this)
-Girls can like me just for me. I am not well outspoken (doesn´t matter), in fact i suck verbally, gonna work on this too (but maybe later there are more fundamental stuff to work on now)
-Getting out of your comfort zone is awesome. Approaching girls that are the center of the attention is out of my comfort zone
-Be more persistant. Do not let social pressure from onlookers make you give up. You wanna look good in front of other people or you wanna get laid?
-Do more street approaches after the club. They could turn into street pulls.
-I am enough
-Going out is all about fun (i was smilling even talking around the club), adventure and it can result in sex
-Sex is no big deal
-Girls love sex

Success story: Lost my virginity 1 week after bootcamp with Jeffy and Alex.

I give most of the credit to myself. Going out like 6 days per week for the last month and half. Being ballsy. Getting blown out so harshly and so many times. Writing field reports. Pushing my comfort zone. BUT the bootcamp pointed me in the right direction, gave me guidance and feedback.

Fuck it. Gonna do some daygame later. At least 1-3 approaches. Fuck i do not have time even for school, business and reading. I really want to learn about business and read books, going out takes too much time.

Love you RSD

ChinaBoy
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 Quick update:

So i try to fuck her in the morning, no go. I do not care.

Send her home.

I wasn´t a good fuck...I don´t think she hand an orgams. I´ll get better. Need more stamina.

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Haha your mum walked in. This kinda reminds me of myself when I would try and do everything I read on rsd. Putting your thumnb in her butt then making her lick your thumb hahaah
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Voeoe

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AWESOME!

Love the part where your telling yourself you dont want to do it and then going. That's some powerful shit and I need to take a lesson from it.
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@Serpicoo: Fun times indeed.

@Voeoe: Yeah, yesterday i had a lot of those times. I am gonna amp it up and do more of those. I kinda avoided the dancefloor cuz there weren´t so many people so i felt social pressure. Fuck this shit.

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