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Tezer

Tezer

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Join Date: 01/14/2011 | Posts: 973

yh, the only advice i can give is to drop 'game' and just be completely sloppy now. Like literally, be a troll; say dumb shit and turn this into comedy. Like stuff you've always wanted to say to women but now you're actually doing it. Forget about getting results cause they'll just think you're a moron, which you'll gradually give less of a shit about the more you do this. Eventually you'll want to learn to calibrate this silliness, you'll become more emotionally attuned and it will turn into genuine self-amusement that you're BOTH enjoy. Just do this for now: talk shit.....and enjoy yourself.

Or give up on PUA which like Tim would say, isn't really a choice. The other choice is scarcity, pain and regret. Very predictable cause most of us have been there. But the PUA road is unpredictable and goes as deep as you want to take it. The choice is yours, you've motivated a lot of people just because of your persistence, you've had legit results, maybe not the best by your standards but you've still gained results on some nights which counts for something. Don't forget your victories; alex gets nervous too and has a album of all the hot girls he's banged just to remind him of how awesome he is. You should do the same with the little steps you've been taking.
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roadrally

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Join Date: 10/12/2009 | Posts: 1919

 If the girl is blowing you off as a line like "its irrelevant" 
Check your tonality, I would think you coming off incongruent/needy if she wont even stop to talk and shes rude. Or shes just a bitch, which is possible too.

Also, Tyler made this video for you 



I know you wont quit. Even if you want to, you'll be back at it soon enough =) 
Good luck on your journey. 
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I just want to enjoy amazing girls. Crazy what sort of journey ive embarked on pursuing this quest.
My adventures in Dallas - 2013
 My adventures in Austin - 2012  
Tyler/Julien, Honolulu Bootcamp July 2011
Tyler hotseat2 x5 (2011-2012)
Alex hotseat x2 (2013)
girlslovepenis.tumblr.com 
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CBAABC

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Join Date: 02/20/2009 | Posts: 1692

 @Voeoe: Remeber reading about Jeffy throwing his TV out of the window. 

@ Dr Feelgood: I know myself in this regard...any pause longer than 2-3 weeks would very likely turn into giving up. So if I stop going out consistently then it equals the end of this journey.

Yep, I know...no number/blowouts don´t mean shit...

There´s no emotional investment if i haven´t even talked to those girls...but if we clicked and talked for a while and then get flaked....then there´s emotional investment from my side and i do care and it hurts a lil bit.

For YOU Jeffy fanboy...do you think Jeffy´s invested in "pussy"? (don´t wanna objectify...just talking in more Jeffy language haha) I don´t think Jeffy gives a shit about a single girl.

@Flamingo: Actually before I was really sloppy and I am thinking about bringing focus...something Tyler recommended (like 1 month to focus on rapport, another month to focus on another thing etc), also Alex recommended this.

Before I was pretty sloppy...Like I´d just approach and approach.

@Andre: I am thinking about how stupid i am by all this negativity...it´s fucken retarded. I have had some minor victories and some bigger victories.

I guess I just cannot take one thing, that other people are progressing faster than me while working less hard than me. This is the thing I really hate and makes me frustrated.

I remember even with weight gain...soo consistent with the gym, eating a lot...like everyday I had nausea from the amount of the food i ate, puked a lot of times because of overeating and then seeing other people not even eating properly and not working out consistently and they had ripped and big bodies. Made me lose trust in all principles like discipline, hard work, consistency.

@roadrally: Probably.

Though I never really agreed with Tyler´s idea on congruency...if you are trying on new behaviors of course you will come off incongruent...but it will fix with time (with time and "practice" it will become congruent)

Well, I can´t really quit till end of this summer. Hopefully I will go on a holiday with a certain crew, most likely it will be 1000x better than BC.

@fear: Normal? I don´t think that my approaches are not normal.

I am not super silly, or saying too intense stuff...

Actually on daygame I am actually kinda boring...so wanted to be a lil bit more emotional.

But something must be wrong...whatever, will figure it out.

True, LOL. Maybe I should stop posting sooo much on this journal hehe.

BTW: Going to MUNICH for the hotseat

ChinaBoy
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roadrally

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Join Date: 10/12/2009 | Posts: 1919

ChinaBoy~ wrote:
@fear: Normal? I don´t think that my approaches are not normal.

I am not super silly, or saying too intense stuff...

Actually on daygame I am actually kinda boring...so wanted to be a lil bit more emotional.

But something must be wrong...whatever, will figure it out.

True, LOL. Maybe I should stop posting sooo much on this journal hehe.

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ChinaBoy
I think this is the reason why you are getting insta blowouts. In my experience daygame is very chill and normal. You dont need to be cooler or more exciting then the flashing lights and music in the club. This is why I like daygame so much because if you are just chill it hooks pretty hard.
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I just want to enjoy amazing girls. Crazy what sort of journey ive embarked on pursuing this quest.
My adventures in Dallas - 2013
 My adventures in Austin - 2012  
Tyler/Julien, Honolulu Bootcamp July 2011
Tyler hotseat2 x5 (2011-2012)
Alex hotseat x2 (2013)
girlslovepenis.tumblr.com 
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Distant Light

Distant Light

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Join Date: 08/22/2006 | Posts: 2390

Man o man, I wish my computer was up to post my "final" community post... (Haven't posted much lately cause I'm essentially highly turned off by community belief systems)

Your biggest problem is you have ZERO RESPECT for yourself. You clearly don't see yourself as a valuable commodity and "community" culture will forever keep you in a state of TRYING. Just because you got "what you do" down doesn't mean you actually know "why". As of right now everything your doing technique wise is done because its supposedly going to lead to a LAY. The foundation of your reality is TRYING TO GET LAID. Its such a weak, scarce, reactive and inconsistent viewpoint.

Just BE a fascinating man living life who attracts women in general and selects the one (or ones) who peak his interest the most. This is the ONLY WAY you will see consistency. So what qualities do I mean...

1. A Man Of Value Is Given In Abundance
YOU ARE ATTRACTION, never forget that. Nothing you do will ever consistently draw women to you. Its how you are, your character/presence/vibe/aura that is drawing people to you.

I personally give two fucks about body language or tonality because "Why I do what I do" or "How I am" is consistent so the congruent actions/techniques will pop up. Game is just self discovery or self awareness as new CONGRUENT actions/techniques spontaneously popup.

2. Becoming A Fascinating Man
This is the ONLY aspects you will need to ever focus on in order to CONSISTENTLY have more options than you can ever handle. Of course this is 100% personal self discovery which will take time...

"What is your criteria?" - Only a man who lives in scarcity will take what he can get. What does the women you want in your life look like? How are they when you interact with them? How do they treat you? What keeps you interested in them? Just because she is hot with long legs, nice tits and a gorgeous face DOES NOT MEAN SHIT. In 1654, there were some chicks just as hot. Hot women are going no where. If you went to a model casting there would be 100+ hot women, how the hell would you know which ones to choose.

"Are YOU interested?" When you go around interacting people always go up seeing if she peaks your interest and comes close to your "ideal" criteria. If she is way off the mark, let her go. If she doesn't even perceive your value to even know to CHASE YOU, let it go. This isn't your opportunity, its hers. Her being interested is FUCKING IRRELEVANT because regardless she has to make you interested in her.

"What are your boundaries?" This is what will SAVE YOUR FUCKING ASS 100% OF THE TIME. There are certain things that should cause you to assert your boundaries or atleast assert that you are willing to walk away even if she was naked in her bed fingering herself. This is what helps you filter and sift through everything efficiently without wasting your time or energy. A chick trying to win you over doesn't want to raise red flags so she will CALIBRATE to YOU because SHE IS TRYING TO WIN YOU OVER.

ONLY RULE: "Give her the opportunity to win you over" - You don't have to be direct or even let her know your interested, just give her the chance and space to figure you out. Everything is for YOU to be seduce by her. Even when you are pulling its just an excuse.

So when you roll into a venue just having fun meeting women there is NO DOWNSIDE to any interaction because your not TRYING ANYTHING. As you "short set" the room you find women who peak your interest, some peaking your interest more than others. They are all trying to win you over so if you LEAD THEM by giving them an excuse they will either run with it or not. ATLEAST YOU KNOW AND DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME...
- Kiss, inches from her face jokingly saying ("You know its ok...You can kiss me if you want, I just might kiss back")
- Pull, "Yo, 5mins were rolling to your place" then walk off talking to other girls. Remember this is her opportunity NOT YOURS if she wants to get pulled her ass will make sure some other chick don't fuck up this opportunity.

3. Having a life that you can bring people into
I always used to give my friend shit that even if he had a gf he had NO LIFE at all. There wasn't nothing he actually did in his life that he genuinely enjoyed because all he did was pickup.

My dumbass was so unaware that due to me simply focusing on living/creating my life was what made the process of women meeting me and trying to hookup so easy. If any community guy TRYING TO GET GOOD was to see me go about all this they would be annoyed and say I have zero game because I'm not doing much but so many possibilities are present. (Past 10 times out was in a rather ideal situation 8 of those times. Not even one night have I even proactively create opportunities

In the end...
What turned me off was a situation where I reverted back to a "community dude" for a split second and it was such a SAD FRAME OF MIND. Keep in mind, EVERY NIGHT I ended up with a woman trying to figure out a place we could simply hookup. (2 of those times I mightve been blackout drunk, as a bouncer told me I pulled a chick with huge tits and played back my vid cam to notice me with a chick)

All I was doing was just SHOWING UP as I finally simply grabbed my balls and took responsibility for everything that happens in my world. The probability of me fooling around with atleast woman is 99%. Its abit deeper but waitng for computer to fix to post "final" post.

P.S...keep going the route your going an it will be nothing but inconsistency

P.S.S...This shit has been so easy because any chicks who don't make the cut or simply is prolonging shit I FRIEND ZONE. They still want me but I am done with them, I go out way too much to waste my time. This has made all my interactions very solid since its either they'll continue chasing til I'm ready or I friend zone them causing them to want me more.
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Enigma

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Join Date: 02/05/2007 | Posts: 31

Did you ever consider videoing your approaches and watching the video afterwards? You might be surprised about how different you actually are from the way you imagine being. If you want you could post the videos here so we could give you feedback. There are two keys to expertise: practice & feedback, I think you might need more of the latter.

ChinaBoy~ wrote:
I opt for the 1st option...the bus arrives and she says she has to go and starts leaving, I go for the number, nope denied. This made me feel very down. Wow, usually single blowouts do not affect me as I am not emotionally invested...but this left me thinking this "I did everything right, charismatic, expressive, emotional, fun....and it didn´t work" "lame, this is the kind of girl i am into and it didn´t worked out"


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Enigma

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Join Date: 02/05/2007 | Posts: 31

> Also thinking about giving up going to college...But if I do that, then I am on my own...no financial support from parents.

I think college is a waste of time and money and only justified in some rare instances. What do you want to study? Nowadays you can learn most things better by books & internet.
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CBAABC

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Join Date: 02/20/2009 | Posts: 1692

 @Distant light: thanks very usefull and you are spot on.

Today I was joking with my friend, talking about sexual stuff, told her: "what are you doing later tonight? we should drink some wine...at my place" later she was like "sooo are we going to drink some wine" I realised what I have just done....and removed all flirtatious and sexual comments...durrr what I was thinking, no I do not want to fuck her, yep she´s out of my league. Why talking to her is sooo effortless and I am being myself is because I don´t put her on a pedestal as I do it with other people...

Putting other people on pedestal and not realising my own value...this came from my early childhood, constantly reinforced by my parents to be generous in a supplicating way.

@tastycurry: Hey, thanks dude...always reminding me and pointing stuff out.

Not drinking is not the main issue...I should be more social in general. I always use time as an excuse...but the real reason is that I kinda avoid being social just for fun.

@Enigma: thinking about that, hehehe. SimplePickup style.I think a video camera would be an awesome thing for travel and PU footage.

Hehe...I DO NOT live in the US....Europe>USA tounge

College education is FREE in the Czech Republic. I see the big upside of college parties, opportunities to meet a shit ton of people, build a social circle, become more social, etc...

The only downside is I gotta study hard, I am a pretty smart guy, but way too lazy to study.

ChinaBoy
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Flaming0.O

Flaming0.O

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Join Date: 11/12/2011 | Posts: 231

ChinaBoy~ wrote:
@Flamingo: Actually before I was really sloppy and I am thinking about bringing focus...something Tyler recommended (like 1 month to focus on rapport, another month to focus on another thing etc), also Alex recommended this.

Before I was pretty sloppy...Like I´d just approach and approach.
I think this is an advice for guys that are in a different headspace than you. Your problem is that you do something FUNDAMENTALLY wrong, but somehow it's really hard to discover what it is.

When you approach a girl, CAN YOU FEEL she gets a "spark of how awesome you are" and that she is excited to meet you?
Focusing on feelings instead of the "hard assets of the game" might help you. Being completly oblivious of your own actions and centering yourself on her emotional and verbal answers. Measuring her emotional state at any infinitly small space of time. I talk about chemistry. Is this the missing part? Think about it.
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BKW

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Join Date: 02/21/2012 | Posts: 987

Distant Light wrote:
Man o man, I wish my computer was up to post my "final" community post... (Haven't posted much lately cause I'm essentially highly turned off by community belief systems)

Your biggest problem is you have ZERO RESPECT for yourself. You clearly don't see yourself as a valuable commodity and "community" culture will forever keep you in a state of TRYING. Just because you got "what you do" down doesn't mean you actually know "why". As of right now everything your doing technique wise is done because its supposedly going to lead to a LAY. The foundation of your reality is TRYING TO GET LAID. Its such a weak, scarce, reactive and inconsistent viewpoint.

Just BE a fascinating man living life who attracts women in general and selects the one (or ones) who peak his interest the most. This is the ONLY WAY you will see consistency. So what qualities do I mean...

1. A Man Of Value Is Given In Abundance
YOU ARE ATTRACTION, never forget that. Nothing you do will ever consistently draw women to you. Its how you are, your character/presence/vibe/aura that is drawing people to you.

I personally give two fucks about body language or tonality because "Why I do what I do" or "How I am" is consistent so the congruent actions/techniques will pop up. Game is just self discovery or self awareness as new CONGRUENT actions/techniques spontaneously popup.

2. Becoming A Fascinating Man
This is the ONLY aspects you will need to ever focus on in order to CONSISTENTLY have more options than you can ever handle. Of course this is 100% personal self discovery which will take time...

"What is your criteria?" - Only a man who lives in scarcity will take what he can get. What does the women you want in your life look like? How are they when you interact with them? How do they treat you? What keeps you interested in them? Just because she is hot with long legs, nice tits and a gorgeous face DOES NOT MEAN SHIT. In 1654, there were some chicks just as hot. Hot women are going no where. If you went to a model casting there would be 100+ hot women, how the hell would you know which ones to choose.

"Are YOU interested?" When you go around interacting people always go up seeing if she peaks your interest and comes close to your "ideal" criteria. If she is way off the mark, let her go. If she doesn't even perceive your value to even know to CHASE YOU, let it go. This isn't your opportunity, its hers. Her being interested is FUCKING IRRELEVANT because regardless she has to make you interested in her.

"What are your boundaries?" This is what will SAVE YOUR FUCKING ASS 100% OF THE TIME. There are certain things that should cause you to assert your boundaries or atleast assert that you are willing to walk away even if she was naked in her bed fingering herself. This is what helps you filter and sift through everything efficiently without wasting your time or energy. A chick trying to win you over doesn't want to raise red flags so she will CALIBRATE to YOU because SHE IS TRYING TO WIN YOU OVER.

ONLY RULE: "Give her the opportunity to win you over" - You don't have to be direct or even let her know your interested, just give her the chance and space to figure you out. Everything is for YOU to be seduce by her. Even when you are pulling its just an excuse.

So when you roll into a venue just having fun meeting women there is NO DOWNSIDE to any interaction because your not TRYING ANYTHING. As you "short set" the room you find women who peak your interest, some peaking your interest more than others. They are all trying to win you over so if you LEAD THEM by giving them an excuse they will either run with it or not. ATLEAST YOU KNOW AND DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME...
- Kiss, inches from her face jokingly saying ("You know its ok...You can kiss me if you want, I just might kiss back")
- Pull, "Yo, 5mins were rolling to your place" then walk off talking to other girls. Remember this is her opportunity NOT YOURS if she wants to get pulled her ass will make sure some other chick don't fuck up this opportunity.

3. Having a life that you can bring people into
I always used to give my friend shit that even if he had a gf he had NO LIFE at all. There wasn't nothing he actually did in his life that he genuinely enjoyed because all he did was pickup.

My dumbass was so unaware that due to me simply focusing on living/creating my life was what made the process of women meeting me and trying to hookup so easy. If any community guy TRYING TO GET GOOD was to see me go about all this they would be annoyed and say I have zero game because I'm not doing much but so many possibilities are present. (Past 10 times out was in a rather ideal situation 8 of those times. Not even one night have I even proactively create opportunities

In the end...
What turned me off was a situation where I reverted back to a "community dude" for a split second and it was such a SAD FRAME OF MIND. Keep in mind, EVERY NIGHT I ended up with a woman trying to figure out a place we could simply hookup. (2 of those times I mightve been blackout drunk, as a bouncer told me I pulled a chick with huge tits and played back my vid cam to notice me with a chick)

All I was doing was just SHOWING UP as I finally simply grabbed my balls and took responsibility for everything that happens in my world. The probability of me fooling around with atleast woman is 99%. Its abit deeper but waitng for computer to fix to post "final" post.

P.S...keep going the route your going an it will be nothing but inconsistency

P.S.S...This shit has been so easy because any chicks who don't make the cut or simply is prolonging shit I FRIEND ZONE. They still want me but I am done with them, I go out way too much to waste my time. This has made all my interactions very solid since its either they'll continue chasing til I'm ready or I friend zone them causing them to want me more.
Damn man, I just joined this community and your leaving needy guys like me?  lol

Would sure like to see you stay to give more insights man...
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