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alright. Now i understand better.
5.3.2012 Daygame- Look on the bright side=win
So I got sick...Massive headache, didn´t wanted to go out.
So went out...massive headache, shivering and nausea...nausea was the worst...felt like puking.
I did like 5-6 approaches...LOL not even one girl stopped properly to shake my hand. So all blowouts.
Also met again the engaged chick Lucy...again shot the shit with her.
"She´s single"
"you wish"
Then my wing told me that his date is bringing a girl so he should bring a guy...my wings asks me if I wanna ok, I agree.
Her: "ewwww, you should bring someone cuter than him (meaning me)"
I don´t give a shit.
Wow, she´s upping the ante...next time I see her I am gonna try to make something happen. Though she´s engaged but she´s behaving like a single girl and testing the shit out of me.
After 2 hours of daygame I feel pretty awesome. Headache? Gone. Nausea? Gone. Down feeling (sadness)? Almost gone.
So then we go there, to meet the unofficial blind date. I didn´t want to go as if it wouldn´t work out then that´s a blowout but decided to push for new experiences.
Turns out that the girls is doable, kinda trashy...but says that she´s going to meet her BF (yea i think it was a lie)....So I leave.
On my way back I just think about the positives, instead of focus on negatives and make myself feel depressed and frustrated.
Instead of thinking: I got 5-6 insta blowouts and one blind date blowout I though: "Haha, cool, I felt like shit and now I feel pretty good, I approached, I pushed my comfort zone. It´s all good. And also I just gained 0.7 kg in a week. Sweet. I am gonna go home and overeat some more. Awesome."
Go home feeling pretty good about myself. It´s all about bringing out the positive guy inside of me. Also I have weight gain, so if no results with PU, then at least I am making progress elsewhere.
Teenage girl from sunday
Sunday:
I texted her "Nice meeting your nerd :P Ivi"
Her: "Nice meeting you too :), not that I am a facebook dweller but it would come in handy :)"
"you will find me under ...."
She haven´t added me yet...so I called her up. She picks up,...there´s some guy talking shit on me hahaha...It seems like not perfect logistics to talk to her on phone while having a guy distract her and me...haha some immature guy. Also told her we should hang out but she told me that she has to study....yea right, she doesn´t look like a type of girl that will study. Gonna try probably on the weekend for the last time.
LOL...I think she´s the 1st girl in 25-30 numbers that picked up the phone. PROOOOGRESSSS BIATCH.
Fuck this shit. Ramble over. Time to overeat.
ChinaBoy
So I got sick...Massive headache, didn´t wanted to go out.
So went out...massive headache, shivering and nausea...nausea was the worst...felt like puking.
I did like 5-6 approaches...LOL not even one girl stopped properly to shake my hand. So all blowouts.
Also met again the engaged chick Lucy...again shot the shit with her.
"She´s single"
"you wish"
Then my wing told me that his date is bringing a girl so he should bring a guy...my wings asks me if I wanna ok, I agree.
Her: "ewwww, you should bring someone cuter than him (meaning me)"
I don´t give a shit.
Wow, she´s upping the ante...next time I see her I am gonna try to make something happen. Though she´s engaged but she´s behaving like a single girl and testing the shit out of me.
After 2 hours of daygame I feel pretty awesome. Headache? Gone. Nausea? Gone. Down feeling (sadness)? Almost gone.
So then we go there, to meet the unofficial blind date. I didn´t want to go as if it wouldn´t work out then that´s a blowout but decided to push for new experiences.
Turns out that the girls is doable, kinda trashy...but says that she´s going to meet her BF (yea i think it was a lie)....So I leave.
On my way back I just think about the positives, instead of focus on negatives and make myself feel depressed and frustrated.
Instead of thinking: I got 5-6 insta blowouts and one blind date blowout I though: "Haha, cool, I felt like shit and now I feel pretty good, I approached, I pushed my comfort zone. It´s all good. And also I just gained 0.7 kg in a week. Sweet. I am gonna go home and overeat some more. Awesome."
Go home feeling pretty good about myself. It´s all about bringing out the positive guy inside of me. Also I have weight gain, so if no results with PU, then at least I am making progress elsewhere.
Teenage girl from sunday
Sunday:
I texted her "Nice meeting your nerd :P Ivi"
Her: "Nice meeting you too :), not that I am a facebook dweller but it would come in handy :)"
"you will find me under ...."
She haven´t added me yet...so I called her up. She picks up,...there´s some guy talking shit on me hahaha...It seems like not perfect logistics to talk to her on phone while having a guy distract her and me...haha some immature guy. Also told her we should hang out but she told me that she has to study....yea right, she doesn´t look like a type of girl that will study. Gonna try probably on the weekend for the last time.
LOL...I think she´s the 1st girl in 25-30 numbers that picked up the phone. PROOOOGRESSSS BIATCH.
Fuck this shit. Ramble over. Time to overeat.
ChinaBoy
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i dont know why but im listening to a marketing seminar , i stumbled on this threat by accident i skimmed over it
it kinda reminds me of my first years . so im gonna make it easy for you
find borrow or steal
womanizing by stephane
read chapter two
do it for 18 houras per day until it becomes natural
...........
plus stop being weird whatever comes thru youtr mouth is fake dont worry we have all been there stop forum for 6 ,mounths detox for all material
it kinda reminds me of my first years . so im gonna make it easy for you
find borrow or steal
womanizing by stephane
read chapter two
do it for 18 houras per day until it becomes natural
...........
plus stop being weird whatever comes thru youtr mouth is fake dont worry we have all been there stop forum for 6 ,mounths detox for all material
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burn baby burn
Damn you've changed a lot. By the way, could you at some point write about how to make yourself approach like a machine.
From my own experience, especially in daygame: go out until you can make yourself approach. For me this meant going out several days with 0 approaches until I finally managed to get myself to do it.
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LOL...I think she´s the 1st girl in 25-30 numbers that picked up the phone. PROOOOGRESSSS BIATCH.
I said it before, and ill say it again...you should tape your interactions like i used to...
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Hey Chinaboy you are an inspiration to everyone. Your work ethic is really second to none. Just nonstop action and no second thoughts. Alex's style has been working great for me so far, I'm having so much fun with it and getting results. Just relaxing, chilling with the girl, not worrying about rushing or escalating too fast.
Good luck my man. Also I noticed you are a fan of starcraft and stuff on youtube. Awesome.
Good luck my man. Also I noticed you are a fan of starcraft and stuff on youtube. Awesome.
@bwidger85: True, most of my interactions are pretty short (few minutes), as I approach a lot of times on the street so girls are in a hurry...sometimes I cut it short if I don´t feel that we click together and get the number anyway (but not expecting a response). Weird that for my wing 3-5 min is enough. Most of the times it´s more like 3-4 mins.
@Feelthefear: Awesome mate! LOL U such a stalker.
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Just wanted to write down some recent wins, thoughts, etc.
Wins:
-My schoolmates giving me a shitton of peer pressure and even getting angry that I didn´t drink at our prom..."Why are you not drinkin" (angry tonality) "I just don´t like it" "Well, me too, but i still drink". Ha I know my boundaries I know myself, I am not gonna drink.
-Recognizing new sticking points: expressiveness + inner game (aka inner voice)
-Overeating is awesome. Not doing it as hardcore as before...but eating a LOT
-Read this blog today www.freedombusinessblog.com/
-EC has been hammered enough for the past 1-2 months
-Acne is getting a lil bit better. Using proactiv daily (2x) but seems kinda slow. Have been using it for like a month consistently and 2 months inconsistently (so 3 months total)
-Kinda care less about PU. Not stressing over to keep being out 5+/week out
-Meditating consistently
So I am gonna focus on delivery (tonality + being more expressive with facial expressions and gestures) and a more positive inner voice.
I want faster results with PU, but pushing it hard has not proven to work very well for me so far. Eh, nevermind, let´s get balance in my life.
Also watched Yes Man. Imagined how would my life be if I´d say YES more. Yes to new experiences, not Yes to become a submissive little bitch. Gonna consciously say yes more often to new experiences.
New observation: The pickup agenda
Yep, I have a pickup agenda...i have a certain pickup mode that i turn myself into. It´s like "ahh, the streets, time to turn on the pickup guy."
As I live right in the center of city center I was just going home with no intentions of approaching girls, well what, missed on 2 girls who gave me EC...but when I walk on the same streets I feel kinda different.
I think there shouldn´t be this "turning on pickup mode"...instead approaching should be a part of my personality.
ChinaBoy
@Feelthefear: Awesome mate! LOL U such a stalker.
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Just wanted to write down some recent wins, thoughts, etc.
Wins:
-My schoolmates giving me a shitton of peer pressure and even getting angry that I didn´t drink at our prom..."Why are you not drinkin" (angry tonality) "I just don´t like it" "Well, me too, but i still drink". Ha I know my boundaries I know myself, I am not gonna drink.
-Recognizing new sticking points: expressiveness + inner game (aka inner voice)
-Overeating is awesome. Not doing it as hardcore as before...but eating a LOT
-Read this blog today www.freedombusinessblog.com/
-EC has been hammered enough for the past 1-2 months
-Acne is getting a lil bit better. Using proactiv daily (2x) but seems kinda slow. Have been using it for like a month consistently and 2 months inconsistently (so 3 months total)
-Kinda care less about PU. Not stressing over to keep being out 5+/week out
-Meditating consistently
So I am gonna focus on delivery (tonality + being more expressive with facial expressions and gestures) and a more positive inner voice.
I want faster results with PU, but pushing it hard has not proven to work very well for me so far. Eh, nevermind, let´s get balance in my life.
Also watched Yes Man. Imagined how would my life be if I´d say YES more. Yes to new experiences, not Yes to become a submissive little bitch. Gonna consciously say yes more often to new experiences.
New observation: The pickup agenda
Yep, I have a pickup agenda...i have a certain pickup mode that i turn myself into. It´s like "ahh, the streets, time to turn on the pickup guy."
As I live right in the center of city center I was just going home with no intentions of approaching girls, well what, missed on 2 girls who gave me EC...but when I walk on the same streets I feel kinda different.
I think there shouldn´t be this "turning on pickup mode"...instead approaching should be a part of my personality.
ChinaBoy
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"Why are you not drinkin"
"I prefer heroin"
That's just my fucked up humour though. I cant see any acne on your face but get benzyl peroxide from a pharmacy plus a moisturizer.
"I prefer heroin"
That's just my fucked up humour though. I cant see any acne on your face but get benzyl peroxide from a pharmacy plus a moisturizer.
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7.2.2012 Daygame
So after the gym I was kinda rushing towards the bus stop. All I was thinking about was catching the bus. Well, I saw a really cute girl and I just asked myself "Why not?"
I was feeling pretty good after the gym, so decided to go direct.
She´s shy, I extend my hand and she´s hesitant to shake my hand...then we just shoot the shit, the conversation is pretty emotional, I am expressive (suprised by myself)...But the chillout and just share my hobbies and ask about hers...She has a tongue piercing, YES!
Told her that I just got out of the gym...she gives me a test about my skinniness. I just brush it off as if she said nothing.
So I didn´t catched my bus...I see her bus comming.
My thought was "Fuck, what do I do?"
"1. assume she´s gonna stay
2. get her number real quick"
I opt for the 1st option...the bus arrives and she says she has to go and starts leaving, I go for the number, nope denied. This made me feel very down. Wow, usually single blowouts do not affect me as I am not emotionally invested...but this left me thinking this "I did everything right, charismatic, expressive, emotional, fun....and it didn´t work" "lame, this is the kind of girl i am into and it didn´t worked out"
So I walk to the traffic light and see another cutie...Even though the approach logistics were bad I went for it. I approached her while we were crossing the road going in the same direction, as we crossed the road I stopped and introduced myself....she kept going "wait wait wait, I am Ivi, what´s your name?" "It´s irrelevant" and kept going.
Haha...she probably say me get rejected by the other girl while the previous girl was entering the bus as this new girl was getting out of that bus...whatever.
On my way home, my negative self dominated my mind...it´s fucking toxic and made me feel very sad and frustrated.
It´s comming up with a lot of stuff:
"Maybe it´s your looks (skinnines and acne)"
"It seems to go nowhere, like there´s no point to approach, it´s like going for another blowout after blowout"
"Look at your progress over the last 6 months, zero. Maybe you will never get BETTER at it, maybe you should just GIVE UP"
"I did everything right this time, why the fuck it didn´t work out? I was charismatic, expressive, emotional, confident, WTF???"
"This pickup thing doesn´t seems to be working, like you are actually doing something and you are only getting reference expreriences telling you that it doesn´t work"
"Is something seriously wrong with me?"
"I am just banging my head against the wall and being too stubborn to actually admit to myself that it is not working"
Seriously? Wow. I have had a lot of lows...but this one is very serious. I have never seriously considered GIVING UP PICKUP.
But actually in last 1 month of intense daygame I learned 2 things:
-Approach a lot during the day
-EC
Game=focus+discipline. I kinda lacked focus. Gonna incorporate it.
Victories:
-Approached this cutie
-Was expressive and emotional
-Went for the kamikaze approach anyway
Conclusion:
-2 approaches
Lessons:
-Never let the negative guy dominate your mind...always have this positive guy in your mind. ALWAYS!
-Results are outside your control, never let it affect you
Also thinking about giving up going to college...But if I do that, then I am on my own...no financial support from parents.
Wow...if I let my negative self talk to me more often...I don´t know much I can take it....it´s my stubborness, persistence, leverage, obsession that´s keeping me going. But I dunno for how much longer I will want to keep this going. Pickup is kinda poisoning my soul, soooo many negative emotions are getting attached to pickup.
I am crying as I am writing this.
Last time I cried was when I was 16yo, lying in bed while being in physical pain (after getting circumsized) and in emotional pain- realising how my life actually sucks, no girl (just wanted a girl to complete me), lazy, no hobbies, no friends, had social anxiety, had no future...thinking that there´s no point in living and about ending it all.
Right now I feel that there needs to be some serious changes in my life.
1. Give up PU
2. Push harder with PU as it´s not fun anymore. Just endure the pain.
On the bright side...i have not developed hate towards women. I still have love for them. No matter how many blowouts I got.
What´s making me depressed and frustrated is that I am realising that I will still have a "lame life" and that my hard work is not paying off. That´s probably why I am going back to when I was 16yo, depressed about having a lame/loser life (no friends, no women, no money, no hobbies, no future). Also I cannot accept having no women in my life, they are THE biggest motivator for me. For me it´s either live an awesome life or die.
Wanted to keep this journal positive...but feel like I need to be honest and reveal it all.
ChinaBoy
So after the gym I was kinda rushing towards the bus stop. All I was thinking about was catching the bus. Well, I saw a really cute girl and I just asked myself "Why not?"
I was feeling pretty good after the gym, so decided to go direct.
She´s shy, I extend my hand and she´s hesitant to shake my hand...then we just shoot the shit, the conversation is pretty emotional, I am expressive (suprised by myself)...But the chillout and just share my hobbies and ask about hers...She has a tongue piercing, YES!
Told her that I just got out of the gym...she gives me a test about my skinniness. I just brush it off as if she said nothing.
So I didn´t catched my bus...I see her bus comming.
My thought was "Fuck, what do I do?"
"1. assume she´s gonna stay
2. get her number real quick"
I opt for the 1st option...the bus arrives and she says she has to go and starts leaving, I go for the number, nope denied. This made me feel very down. Wow, usually single blowouts do not affect me as I am not emotionally invested...but this left me thinking this "I did everything right, charismatic, expressive, emotional, fun....and it didn´t work" "lame, this is the kind of girl i am into and it didn´t worked out"
So I walk to the traffic light and see another cutie...Even though the approach logistics were bad I went for it. I approached her while we were crossing the road going in the same direction, as we crossed the road I stopped and introduced myself....she kept going "wait wait wait, I am Ivi, what´s your name?" "It´s irrelevant" and kept going.
Haha...she probably say me get rejected by the other girl while the previous girl was entering the bus as this new girl was getting out of that bus...whatever.
On my way home, my negative self dominated my mind...it´s fucking toxic and made me feel very sad and frustrated.
It´s comming up with a lot of stuff:
"Maybe it´s your looks (skinnines and acne)"
"It seems to go nowhere, like there´s no point to approach, it´s like going for another blowout after blowout"
"Look at your progress over the last 6 months, zero. Maybe you will never get BETTER at it, maybe you should just GIVE UP"
"I did everything right this time, why the fuck it didn´t work out? I was charismatic, expressive, emotional, confident, WTF???"
"This pickup thing doesn´t seems to be working, like you are actually doing something and you are only getting reference expreriences telling you that it doesn´t work"
"Is something seriously wrong with me?"
"I am just banging my head against the wall and being too stubborn to actually admit to myself that it is not working"
Seriously? Wow. I have had a lot of lows...but this one is very serious. I have never seriously considered GIVING UP PICKUP.
But actually in last 1 month of intense daygame I learned 2 things:
-Approach a lot during the day
-EC
Game=focus+discipline. I kinda lacked focus. Gonna incorporate it.
Victories:
-Approached this cutie
-Was expressive and emotional
-Went for the kamikaze approach anyway
Conclusion:
-2 approaches
Lessons:
-Never let the negative guy dominate your mind...always have this positive guy in your mind. ALWAYS!
-Results are outside your control, never let it affect you
Also thinking about giving up going to college...But if I do that, then I am on my own...no financial support from parents.
Wow...if I let my negative self talk to me more often...I don´t know much I can take it....it´s my stubborness, persistence, leverage, obsession that´s keeping me going. But I dunno for how much longer I will want to keep this going. Pickup is kinda poisoning my soul, soooo many negative emotions are getting attached to pickup.
I am crying as I am writing this.
Last time I cried was when I was 16yo, lying in bed while being in physical pain (after getting circumsized) and in emotional pain- realising how my life actually sucks, no girl (just wanted a girl to complete me), lazy, no hobbies, no friends, had social anxiety, had no future...thinking that there´s no point in living and about ending it all.
Right now I feel that there needs to be some serious changes in my life.
1. Give up PU
2. Push harder with PU as it´s not fun anymore. Just endure the pain.
On the bright side...i have not developed hate towards women. I still have love for them. No matter how many blowouts I got.
What´s making me depressed and frustrated is that I am realising that I will still have a "lame life" and that my hard work is not paying off. That´s probably why I am going back to when I was 16yo, depressed about having a lame/loser life (no friends, no women, no money, no hobbies, no future). Also I cannot accept having no women in my life, they are THE biggest motivator for me. For me it´s either live an awesome life or die.
Wanted to keep this journal positive...but feel like I need to be honest and reveal it all.
ChinaBoy
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From my own experience, especially in daygame: go out until you can make yourself approach. For me this meant going out several days with 0 approaches until I finally managed to get myself to do it.