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nestea

nestea

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Join Date: 03/21/2009 | Posts: 2281

Fear wrote:
Well , Ive been researching pickup for awhile so heres some things that I can tell you that ive read:

you need to talk to the girl for awhile..so she knows you (Mystery 7 hour rule)
talking kills sexual tension, talking leads to you saying something stupid (60 days of challenge/or Gunwitch)

you need to be indirect to convey higher value, too much interest and she loses interest (Mystery)
you need to be direct, its a numbers game, more polarity comes from expressing that you want her (Paul Janka)

kino alot, go for the makeout as soon as possible (Evil Stifler)
lay back, dont try to get her so fast, chill , be relaxed (Lovedrop)

dont go to bars/nightclubs too many guys , you have to shout to be heard (Ross Jeffries)
the bar/clubs are where you go to train, its hard to get an SNL in the daytime (Mystery)

get the girl to chase you (Tyler)
you're the man, lead the girl to where you want to go (Jeffy)

looks/race/grooming doesnt matter (RSD)
looks/race/grooming does matter (Sinn)

I hope this clears things up for you!






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BKW

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Join Date: 02/21/2012 | Posts: 987

This chick wasn't into you.  People talk about "shit tests" like it's a good thing.  Instead of thinking of what she said as a shit test, just take it for what it is--she wasn't interested.  Usually when a girl does that to me I stop talking to her and find another girl.  This isn't about shit tests as it is so much about normal human interaction.  She was basically degrading you, and this isn't a good sign, nor is it a sign of human respect or courtesy.  Think about it this way: would you like a dude who talked to you like that?  If the answer is no then there so be NO reason why you should like a girl for the same reason.  If a girl is disrespectful to me I say "fuck her" and move on to one that isn't such a bitch, period.  Stop trying to push through DISRESPECTFUL shit tests... theses plows aren't doing any good for some people.  I think the difference between a good shit test and a bad one is flirtatious behavior.  Take for instance when a girl flirts--her: "Omg, your sooo nerdyyyyy" (smile on her face)....that's a postive shit test and one that you plow through because she's FLIRTING.  The bad shit test is when a girl is deliberately stating she's not interested by disrespecting you in a serious manner unrelated to flirtatious behavior--basically by what the girl was saying to you.

Stop trying to be someone your not.  Remember what tyler said, "You are enoughf or the girl naturally".  This means that you need to be more authentic.  If youthink your authentic and you feel like your acting authentic then your probably acting in ways that gives women too much power.  If your trying too hard to look into a girl's eyes or trying too hard with anything and not being yourself then that's not attractive.  Try to stop giving a fuck what a girl thinks about you and just BE YOURSELF with intent + freedom of outcome.  This means you need to stop trying to do everything people tell you to do like "look into her eyes at this time" or "plopw through", etc...what you really need to do is be authentic and trust yourself and your emotions and respect your boundaries and other people will too.  Focus on being authentic and doing it for YOU.  Stop trying to change yourself.  Go in with the attitude that your enougha s you are; that you have everything you need to be successful.  If a girl doesn't like you then she's missing out ebcause you know and respect yourself and it makes no sense why she doesn't.  People respond to this.  When you stop trying to do all these subtle things that portray attraction and your just you; you look wher eyou want when you want; you laugh at what you want; you talk about what you want; you don't take disrespectful behavior....when you do this then everything just falls in line naturally.  Forget about all the subtle things because that in itself is portraying that your trying to "sell" your value instead of letting it naturally come from you authentically.  Get it?  People don't want to see you try to be someone your not.  People want you to be you unapologetically and naturally.
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rake_god

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Join Date: 04/17/2011 | Posts: 153

damn. read the first 12 pages of this thread and really my mind is blown. i never went out tonight. i just read this thread.(first 12 pages + this one) I have to agree with bwidger, you have this weird delusional view of things where you never accept that these girls dont like you. you are really positive but just dont acknowledge reality. i dont have the balls to go through some of the shit youve been through. while i was reading your stuff i really didnt understand how you keep going, why you keep going? whats keeping you afloat. You show little emotion.. I read the field report where you said you were with this chick and she spoke to two other guys and told them youre a loser and that she felt sorry for you and you just stood there and said nothing, you just waited, while she spoke to them and even took the other guy's number. and then she blew you off when you got to the hotel.

i think theres only one puzzle piece missing in your game: Self respect.

being aggressive and being alpha are NOT the same things.

An alpha wouldnt take that shit.

Part of calibrating is being able to tell when you are being disrespected and standing up for yourself..

I say fuck shit test theory. REACT if your emotions tell you to. Get jealous. Get pissed. Have an Ego.

it forms part of the attraction process. She needs to see that you are a man. Perhaps it isnt the women you see as the "IT" but yourself.

I dont know how you handle so much negative feedback.. you are my idol..
Dont repress the negativity. I cant rationalise this shit. your dedication is amazing.. u tried to steal a chick from Jeff.. ur fearless...

Fuck being good years from now.. Your game should alraeady be a 10.

You couldve studied MM for a week and gotten laid..in a day.

You would have a girlfriend now if you just had standards.

Study MM and learn the abc's of being high value as well as how to punish a woman (learn synthetic calibration)

i know everyone is going for all this natrual theory, but sometimes you need to step back and acknowledge that shit isnt working.

calirbation is just about paying attention to what you feel

"So many test and teases...nothing got to me. But her comment about "me being single for a looong time" and "me being weird" I didn´t flinched...but in my mind I was like: "ahhh, i know this is a test but there´s like a underlying message that it may be KINDA true"

THAT IS YOUR CALIBRATION -FUCKING FLINCH if you need to flinch do not ignore HOW YOU FEEL - stop hiding how you feel behind the guise of SHIT TEST THIS AND SHIT TEST THAT. stop trying to portray alpha.. and be alpha..Your feelings arre telling you this shit isnt on.. LISTEN TO them.. be genuine.. really genuine... Your game is already the shit. Even telling her its a shit test is better than saying nothing

Youve inspired me to go out. This shit is gruesome.
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roadrally

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Join Date: 10/12/2009 | Posts: 1922

 Dude thats pretty cool, the girl is a stylist and she willing to style you up. 
I dont know how your style is, but I would be super down to have a stylist give me a look.
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CBAABC

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Join Date: 02/20/2009 | Posts: 1692

 @Souffle: yep, suggesting a walk would be sufficient.

Duuuude, we should totally hang out, you know, if this PU thing doesn´t works out, I might as well just hit up a gaybar after gaybar and just get fucked in the ass all night loooong WITH YOU. tounge

@Fear: thanks..."be your own guru"

@bwidger85: nope, I don´t view it was disrespect, but tests. Also the hotter/more quality the girl the HARDER and more on point the test will be.

Like Tyler said about that some of the tests he got were so on point and soo accurate. And that sometimes he just takes it instead of resisting "ah, that one hurt"...I basically did the same 1-2 times.

Also agree with what Alex said about how his interactions with hot girls look like: basically it´s her abusing him for hours and then they go home and he fucks her.

As you all know...I am this massive Alex fanboy NERD...so "It´s not what you do, but what you deal with" that makes you attractive.

@rake_god: how and why I keep going? Because:

1. I love going out (though hate analysing it as it reminds me of the results hahaha)
2. I have massive leverage (I want to have this part of my life handled bad, I had a really chody past with zero friends and zero girls)
3. I am really obsessive (so when I get obsessed with something I work on it hard and don´t give up easily)
4. I have already taken the red pill (and literally there´s no going back, either keep going forward or death)

I remember that specific report...it was in Krakow. Yep, I was just a massive newbie and I thought that she was really into me, when we hung out the 1st time she let her parents wait for her for so long so she could talk to me, then she called me up to hangout...but once we hung out the 2nd time, she wouldn´t even kiss, then talks shit on me to some dudes, gives them her number...i think my though process was "stick in and just try"...although now I´d probably just walk off.

I know what you´re talking about...."Boundaries"

The Jeffy situation...I just love being ballsy, creates good memories.

I was speaking like more realisticaly...but already having the "my game is a 10" and "i am enough" mindset is good...yep.

BTW: I don´t really take seriously advice from people who take less action than me. But I am always open minded to feedback...so thanks dude.

@roadally: hahaha, yep.

What I was wearing yesterday wasn´t bad...but probably could be taken a few notches up to give it a unique look so I stand out. But first I want to gain muscle, I want to have clothes fitting me.

Thanks for feedback, apreciated

OHHH, gonna reread Physical game...and do some exercises focused on "not trying" and "outcome independence"

ChinaBoy
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DJMarco

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it is all about vibe. how to change the vibe?? Positive self talk., positive motherfucking delusional self talk. watch Tim's interviews with Alex,

or watch Brent's videos. his only advices is "change your story"

when the most successful guys in this game tells it there must be some kind of truth to it. isn't it?
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CBAABC

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Join Date: 02/20/2009 | Posts: 1692

 LOL...I analyse too much, worry too much...Let´s just focus on the process...it will get better sooner or later.



I am a normal guy (although with not very much social experience before), I am well groomed and I am a guy...so of course girls are gonna be into me.

No need to worry. It took Hoobie like 8-9 months to get a number and a kiss....So he had to push though the pain period and then he must have progressed pretty fast.

3.3.2012 Daygame- It´s all good


Went with my wing again....the city is kinda dead but nevermind.

Approach a skinny teenage girl, not giving me much EC, looking around, giggling, I was not warmed up so I wanted to eject. Before I eject I get the number...don´t think much of it.

Approach a blondie that was looking at me..."Hey...I saw you eyes,..." She abruptly leaves...haha I said "I saw your eyes" in a TR tonality.

Also approach 2 girls. Go direct on one. The EC, crack up laughing and leave.

Multitalented girl
I see this cutie...go direct. Tell her to put down her sunglasses. She does. She acts, sings, plays piano, dances,....though only 15. I suggest we go sit down. We talk, I qualify. Get the number and FB....talk to her on the bench for some more, but then my wing is calling me so I leave. Pretty good, though it felt weird to me as she was standing kinda far away from me...probably on tuesday she´ll have time sooo we will see.

EDIT: Da fuck...according FB she has a BF. Gonna try anyway.

Shy gurl
Another direct...she must have been 15-16. She giggling, but in a hurry. I tell her to put down her glasses 2x, but she´s too shy. We talk real quick, she reminds me that she´s in a hurry. I get the number.

Victories:
-Get 3 numbers
-Always went for the close
-Had  fun hanging out with my wing
-Met a pretty cool girl

Conclusion:
-3,5 hours out
-cca 10 approaches
-3 numbers, 1 FB

Lessons:
-It´s all good. No need to worry about results
-I am enough
-I need to find some older girls...I like girls 18-20. Not 15-17. Nevermind
-Approaching is no big deal
-No TR tonality
-No more "let´s be friends, gimme your number"...just "Gimme your number, we should hangout sometime"

Gonna try what Teuton advised me to do....approach but do not close, just not wanting anything. Will probably do it in near future.

Now I gotta prep up as I am going to some kinda of Czech Prom...not really looking forward to it, but nevermind. Lol, I used to avoid school events but not anymore, though still do not go along well with people from my class. But I am not gonna shy away from social events.

ChinaBoy
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Join Date: 01/15/2012 | Posts: 115

Chinaboy I'm with SouffléHead here - you're fucking cool! I like your video. You're probably MUCH cooler and more interesting than the VAST majority of girls you speak to. Remember that when you're speaking to them!
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SouffléHead

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Join Date: 09/01/2011 | Posts: 321

ChinaBoy~ wrote:
 @Souffle: yep, suggesting a walk would be sufficient.

Duuuude, we should totally hang out, you know, if this PU thing doesn´t works out, I might as well just hit up a gaybar after gaybar and just get fucked in the ass all night loooong WITH YOU. tounge



Is this a shittest?
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SouffléHead

SouffléHead

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Join Date: 09/01/2011 | Posts: 321

Dude, just watched your last vid.

Fucking hilarious! Your parents are the BEST WINGMEN EVER!!!!
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