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furyx

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Great fucking post!
ChinaBoy~ wrote:
 How Natural Game Works

the goal of natural game is to have less anxiety than the girl in any situation. so for any guy that is walking up to a girl and is nervous, that is BULLSHIT. fuck off. your goal is to have so much life experience and such a wide reality that walking up to any girl does not make you nervous at all.

the way you do this is by having a wide spectrum of successes and embarrassments. the more social risks you take, the more your reality will become wider and the more value you will have. remember, what does a girl find attractive in a man? it's a sense of security. the girl will be attracted to you just because, as a man, you provide to her a sense of security.

that is why the more your reality gets stronger and the more successes and embarrassments you accumulate, the stronger your reality will be and the stronger the sense of security the girl gets from you.

the goal is for you to have such a wide spectrum of successes and experiences that nothing the girl can do will embarrass you. she tests you, you pass. guys try to fight you, you've been there. her friends come and want drama, you've been there. you can handle any and every tricky situation. if that is the case, the girl will see "oh shit, this guy is more centered than I am" and will be attracted.

instead of thinking in terms of reference points, I would think more of successes and embarrassments. actively take more and more social risks of every kind in order to have a stronger reality and a wider spectrum of successes and embarrassments.

and naturally this affects all your other game capabilities as well...

if you have a strong reality and you've endured a lot of bullshit, how easy is it for you to have your own fun instead of impressing? very easy. you realize only your actions as a man make yourself aroused. girls' reactions are just this big nothingness, this big vacuum. only your actions fulfill you. the rest is whatever.

if you have a strong reality how easy is it for you to have fun? you provoke people, use deliberate illogicality, instead of being stuck in the social conditioning thinking of bullshit to say to impress the next person. you're like "fuck this whole frame, I live my live differently". you have fun and never get in your own head.

if you have a strong reality your presence becomes much higher. if you don't need to care about causing impressions your everyday life gets better. you joke around, you fuck around with people, you give value and are a positive influence for everybody. there is no playing the game of victimizing, the game of social conditioning, the game of who's got the better car of better girl. there's just human to human warmth. and you projecting your fulfillment onto those that come across you.

so I would say, think in terms of successes and embarrassments. the more of each you have, the more relaxation, authenticity and better game you will have.

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Cliff notes: Take social risks...with more embarassements come successes. The more embarassements and successes you have the wider reality you have. The wider reality you have the more relaxed you are going to be.

ChinaBoy
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CBAABC

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 @roadally: This one bellow is even better. Check it ou :)

How Natural Game Works

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Martin Crowe

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ChinaBoy~ wrote:
 How Natural Game Works

the goal of natural game is to have less anxiety than the girl in any situation. so for any guy that is walking up to a girl and is nervous, that is BULLSHIT. fuck off. your goal is to have so much life experience and such a wide reality that walking up to any girl does not make you nervous at all.

the way you do this is by having a wide spectrum of successes and embarrassments. the more social risks you take, the more your reality will become wider and the more value you will have. remember, what does a girl find attractive in a man? it's a sense of security. the girl will be attracted to you just because, as a man, you provide to her a sense of security.

that is why the more your reality gets stronger and the more successes and embarrassments you accumulate, the stronger your reality will be and the stronger the sense of security the girl gets from you.

the goal is for you to have such a wide spectrum of successes and experiences that nothing the girl can do will embarrass you. she tests you, you pass. guys try to fight you, you've been there. her friends come and want drama, you've been there. you can handle any and every tricky situation. if that is the case, the girl will see "oh shit, this guy is more centered than I am" and will be attracted.

instead of thinking in terms of reference points, I would think more of successes and embarrassments. actively take more and more social risks of every kind in order to have a stronger reality and a wider spectrum of successes and embarrassments.

and naturally this affects all your other game capabilities as well...

if you have a strong reality and you've endured a lot of bullshit, how easy is it for you to have your own fun instead of impressing? very easy. you realize only your actions as a man make yourself aroused. girls' reactions are just this big nothingness, this big vacuum. only your actions fulfill you. the rest is whatever.

if you have a strong reality how easy is it for you to have fun? you provoke people, use deliberate illogicality, instead of being stuck in the social conditioning thinking of bullshit to say to impress the next person. you're like "fuck this whole frame, I live my live differently". you have fun and never get in your own head.

if you have a strong reality your presence becomes much higher. if you don't need to care about causing impressions your everyday life gets better. you joke around, you fuck around with people, you give value and are a positive influence for everybody. there is no playing the game of victimizing, the game of social conditioning, the game of who's got the better car of better girl. there's just human to human warmth. and you projecting your fulfillment onto those that come across you.

so I would say, think in terms of successes and embarrassments. the more of each you have, the more relaxation, authenticity and better game you will have.

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Cliff notes: Take social risks...with more embarassements come successes. The more embarassements and successes you have the wider reality you have. The wider reality you have the more relaxed you are going to be.

ChinaBoy
Why yes, so why the hell aren't you - seemingly - doing any of this? It's like you know what you need to do, but instantly regress the second you go into a set. 
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CBAABC

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@martin crowe: can you expand on what you have just written?

What am i not doing?

My understanding of this article is take social risks aka push your comfort zone, which i am doing.

Thanks in advance :)
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Cat

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Hey dude. You consider throwing down for a voice recorder? Might help you and us a ton when it comes to helping you out.

Keep going
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Martin Crowe

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ChinaBoy~ wrote:

@martin crowe: can you expand on what you have just written?

What am i not doing?

My understanding of this article is take social risks aka push your comfort zone, which i am doing.

Thanks in advance :)
What you wrote is good. What I'm saying is that if you followed your own advice you'd be doing much better. You may think you are but based on your results it's hard to believe. Fact is it's fucking hard to tell since how good anyone is at this without actually seeing and hearing them in field.
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@cat: also thought about it. Will do it, but it wont be accurate since me talking in english, talking czech (which i do in my city) and me in a foreign country…i am kinda different and feel kinda chody talking in czech.

@martin crowe: true, maybe i am kinda a slow learner? I remember me doing things and progressing slower than other people. Mental block?

Or maybe i am too obsessed with pu and when i go out girls can feel it in my vibe.

The only progress i have seen in the last month of daygame is that i am more comfortable doing it.

Chinaboy
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Jimbiz

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I reckon it's trying too hard in some way, when you're trying too hard it's like a cycle of no results and you can't step back and see the bigger picture. But it's just guess work based on your field reports. You have to find your own style. Why don't you video yourself doing game, even if the audio is bad we might be able to give you an opinion based on the body language? Get a friend to video you do 5 approaches or something and post them up
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CBAABC

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27.2.2012 Daygame


Went out with this another guy...Don´t really like him so my plan was just to tell him that i do not want to go out with him anymore...He ended up approaching 1x. I am not interested in going out with people who do not take action or/and don´t have a good vibe around them (in this case both).

At first I was pushing him into sets...he didn´t even move. Then I realised that I am being ridiculous by pushing other people to approach but not approaching myself...quickly fixed that.

Approach a girl direct, she was kinda taken aback, then she told me she´s in a hurry, i go for the number anyway...no go.

Then decide to do indirect, even though they feel kinda uncomfortable...

Approach a tall girl, she´s kinda looking away...i am not that attracted so i let her go.

Indirect done properly
I see a small blonde...Ask for directions, wtf she´s in elementary school (15yo), shake hands, talk, just normal, she´s not giving much EC as she´s looking down, I qualify her, some chit chat "hey, let´s go sit down" no go she´s in a hurry...talk, move her a lil bit to the side of the street. get the number and FB, talk for another 2 mins, ask when she has time, maybe tommorow. This was normal, I feel like this may convert into a day2. She was also asking me questions pretty early.

Funny thing was that my wing was standing near us like almost a part of the group, kinda weirded out the girl, but i think it´s all good.

EDIT: Check out her FB...apparently she´s engaged to some guy, so maybe BF (BTW the guy is some chode posting on her wall that she lover her, that he´s gonna break hands of everyone who´s hitting on her....haha some needy chode). Let´s see if she´s up for a day2...very interested as Alex said that this indirect method is better for screening out single girls. We will see hehe :)


Then we go on this short street...I did 4 approaches in like 6 mins. 1st told me that I already approached her, kinda nervous, lied about being in a hurry, 2nd was in a hurry, 3rd had a BF, 4th I had to run up to her, she got creeped out.

Also got a number from another girl...but she´s moving out tommorow, also I didn´t really qualify, left after getting the number and also I didn´t liked the girl that much...deleted the number. Gotta keep those steps in my mind :)


Then approach some more....what´s weird that today I didn´t really went for the hottest chicks. Because I went through those smaller streets where are less people and they are also not in a hurry that much. The downside is there´s not many cute chicks and almost no hot chicks.

Victories:
-Did indirect
-Got 2 numbers
-Those 2 interactions were pretty normal, but definatively not boring
-In one interaction I felt that I did a good job

Conclusion:
-2 hours
-cca 10 approaches
-2 numbers

Lessons:
-Being uncomfortable with indirect (labeling it as not ballsy enough) is all in my head.
-Indirect is ok. It´s not hiding, it´s not sneaky
-The goal is just to be normal and chill
-Never forget these points: 1. qualify 2. keep talking after getting the number 3. push for the instant date
-Take your hands out of your pockets
-Smile

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This is my infield video...I am the lil guy on the left. It´s around 9-10 PM (so I considered it more like daygame than night streetgame where you are much more physical).

I am gonna record audio...probably in a week or so.

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Wow. Deleted another 2 numbers.

1st was like she´s busy on FB, blabla, then not responding to text.

2nd seemed as a pretty solid interaction, she even messaged me on FB, 2x I got the "I don´t have time" then when I asked her when do you have time "I dunno"...So I texted her to be upfront and just tell me if she wants to hang out or not "well, no"

Also the girl from friday...she seem kinda way into me. Not quiet and attentive, but the smile with puppy eyes...No response to text, today didn´t picked the phone. Gonna try 2 more times and then delete.

This has forced me to implement a new concept:
-"There´s nothing anybody can give me that I cannot give myself"
-"Only I can infuence how I feel."
-"Monopolising my emotions"

It just means that I won´t let other people affect how I feel. Doesn´t matter if it´s a blowout a milionth flake...whatever.

Jan 23th-Feb 25th Was the Era of Direct Daygame.

Now It´s the Era of Indirect Daygame


ChinaBoy
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Professor Hughes~

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 LOL, you're like Where's Waldo.  You should just travel around and have little cameos in the background of all the instructor's video blogs.

That looks like a pretty decent daygame interaction to me.  I mean, you've got the girl there talking to you for 5 min and looks like you got the number at the end.  

You look pretty stiff though and you're not expressive with your arms at all (the girl is actually a lot more expressive than you).  Try to relax and move around more.  It does look fucking cold though, so maybe that has something to do with it haha.
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