THE FORUMS
He didn´t meant it as a limiting belief thing.
More like a 28 yo girl..."Oh, a cute young guy approached me, it´s soo cute".
It´s easier to go for girls that aren´t way too taller than you. It´s easier to go for girls simmilar age.
I do not know why you guys are focusing on this minor lesson. There are much better lessons in my reports.
The biggest one: YOU ARE ENOUGH
Once you fully internalize this, you are gonna become a beast.
ChinaBoy
More like a 28 yo girl..."Oh, a cute young guy approached me, it´s soo cute".
It´s easier to go for girls that aren´t way too taller than you. It´s easier to go for girls simmilar age.
I do not know why you guys are focusing on this minor lesson. There are much better lessons in my reports.
The biggest one: YOU ARE ENOUGH
Once you fully internalize this, you are gonna become a beast.
ChinaBoy
__________________
19.9.2011 Back in Brno- Very lame night
It was raining basically the whole day. I go out with some guy at 23:00. He´s chody and didn´t even approached, not going to go out with him again.
Clubtime
Go to the club, immediatelly as I come in a schoolmate recognized me. Some chit chat. Then I figured out that´s basically schoolmates and some exchange students and 4 random people and 4 random guys.
So I just talked to some people, talked to my mates. Made friends with some guys.
Did some friendly approaches being outcome independent, didn´t wanted to fuck them.
Approach 2 girls, intro, they went away.
Approach 2 seated girls they were like WTF is this guy so i go away. It was just a social approach to get momentum.
Hot exchange student
Saw I an exchange student that I only introduced myselft to before at school. I see her, hug, high five. Got distracted by introducing myself to the other pople while she runs off. I lost her, so i go talk to other pople.
Make some guy friends.
Then I see her, I was a little bit outcome dependent but i went anyways. She´s on the dancefloor, "I love you" hug, after the hug she pushes me away. I was caught off guard (never happened before), I didn´t wanted to look bad in front of my class mates so I eject. High five her and go talk to my friends.
Then I was sitting there thinking fuck this shit, this is sparta. But she left like after 10 min, unfortunatelly she took a cab otherwise i´d approach her again on the street.
Street
See 2 chicks...they are in front of me. "Hey, I am Ivi" before even walking up to them, they contunue walking so I keep walking towards them. Then a police car stops and gives them something so i just ask them a question that they don´t even answer and go away because i was scared of police (scared of confronting the police cuz there weren´t any people on the streets and the girls may had felt unsafe).
Then just approach 3 girls asking for a good club.
That´s It.
Conclusion:
-1,5 hours infield
Lessons:
-I can be relaxed in the clubs without being on a bootcamp (under Jeffy´s or Alex´s supervision). At 1st I was quite nervous going in the club. After like 30-45 min I was much more relaxed.
-Sometimes you´ll have shitty nights like this. How to avoid this? Move to a better city. Seriously. (but i still have the last year of high school, so i have to suck it up)
-Applied the 2 hour rule. At first i was a bit nervous but then i remembered 2 hour rule and Mike (Alex´s friend, he get´s laid like a madman and he doesn´t do much, he isn´t an approach machine, he´s relaxed)
-I lack EC. I don´t even remember the eyes of the girls. Do not know what am i doing but i lack EC on the openning.
Weak night. But I cannot influence that there are not enough people out (well i can, by moving to a better city). But I am happy that i went out.
ChinaBoy
It was raining basically the whole day. I go out with some guy at 23:00. He´s chody and didn´t even approached, not going to go out with him again.
Clubtime
Go to the club, immediatelly as I come in a schoolmate recognized me. Some chit chat. Then I figured out that´s basically schoolmates and some exchange students and 4 random people and 4 random guys.
So I just talked to some people, talked to my mates. Made friends with some guys.
Did some friendly approaches being outcome independent, didn´t wanted to fuck them.
Approach 2 girls, intro, they went away.
Approach 2 seated girls they were like WTF is this guy so i go away. It was just a social approach to get momentum.
Hot exchange student
Saw I an exchange student that I only introduced myselft to before at school. I see her, hug, high five. Got distracted by introducing myself to the other pople while she runs off. I lost her, so i go talk to other pople.
Make some guy friends.
Then I see her, I was a little bit outcome dependent but i went anyways. She´s on the dancefloor, "I love you" hug, after the hug she pushes me away. I was caught off guard (never happened before), I didn´t wanted to look bad in front of my class mates so I eject. High five her and go talk to my friends.
Then I was sitting there thinking fuck this shit, this is sparta. But she left like after 10 min, unfortunatelly she took a cab otherwise i´d approach her again on the street.
Street
See 2 chicks...they are in front of me. "Hey, I am Ivi" before even walking up to them, they contunue walking so I keep walking towards them. Then a police car stops and gives them something so i just ask them a question that they don´t even answer and go away because i was scared of police (scared of confronting the police cuz there weren´t any people on the streets and the girls may had felt unsafe).
Then just approach 3 girls asking for a good club.
That´s It.
Conclusion:
-1,5 hours infield
Lessons:
-I can be relaxed in the clubs without being on a bootcamp (under Jeffy´s or Alex´s supervision). At 1st I was quite nervous going in the club. After like 30-45 min I was much more relaxed.
-Sometimes you´ll have shitty nights like this. How to avoid this? Move to a better city. Seriously. (but i still have the last year of high school, so i have to suck it up)
-Applied the 2 hour rule. At first i was a bit nervous but then i remembered 2 hour rule and Mike (Alex´s friend, he get´s laid like a madman and he doesn´t do much, he isn´t an approach machine, he´s relaxed)
-I lack EC. I don´t even remember the eyes of the girls. Do not know what am i doing but i lack EC on the openning.
Weak night. But I cannot influence that there are not enough people out (well i can, by moving to a better city). But I am happy that i went out.
ChinaBoy
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Golden articles:
www.rsdnation.com/alexander/blog/alex-rsd-toronto-two-hour-rule-manage-your-night-andor-be-awesome-brad-and-alex-0
alexattitude.com/archives/353
www.rsdnation.com/alexander/blog/party
ChinaBoy
www.rsdnation.com/alexander/blog/alex-rsd-toronto-two-hour-rule-manage-your-night-andor-be-awesome-brad-and-alex-0
alexattitude.com/archives/353
www.rsdnation.com/alexander/blog/party
ChinaBoy
__________________
Nice! Found your post off the main forum and came over here. Haha
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Took a 2 hour nap. Going out in 1,5 hour. Hope that this time I won´t oversleep for school. My parents are getting pissed also they are not used to me going out and getting back late.
I have some notes in my phone from the 2nd day.
More notes from bootcamp:
-Jewelry inspection
-Brush and lead (so much better than pulling by the wrist)
-Neck kiss/bite ("I do not makeout in public")
-Statement of empathy ("Oh, I am from Czech/ Oh, I am chinese. If I am too fast tell me to slow down")
-Doesn´t matter what moves you are doing but that you are doing moves
-Pull back or push her away from time to time
-The goal of physicality is physical rapport not sex in the club (time is you ally)
-Problem with young guys: They become the weird pickup guy. Have hobbies.
-Conguence tests: "It´s fine" or "By that you mean awesome"
-Get contacts early
-Relax
-Have fun
-Talk to everybody (especially the 1st 2 hours)
-Make friends
You are enough. No need to convey value.
I have problems with time management. Going out 6-7x a week is really time demanding. Plus I have final year of high school and I also have hobbies.
Timetable:
Highlighted are those which are more likely.
Monday (15:00):
-Krav Maga (2 hours)
-Meditation (20 min)
-Kegels (5 min)
-Business (50-100 min)
-Eating (1-2 hours)
-(Nap- if I go out at night)
-Daygame (1-3 hours) / Night (2-5 hours)
Tuesday (15:00):
-Meditation (20 min)
-Kegels (5 min)
-Business (50-100 min)
-Eating (1-2 hours)
-(Nap- if I go out at night)
-Daygame (1-3 hours) / Night (2-5 hours)
Wednesday (14:00):
-Gym (2 hours)
-Meditation (20/40 min)
-Kegels (5 min)
-Business (50-100 min)
-Eating (1-2 hours)
-Nap (2-4 hours)
-Night (2-7 hours)
Thursday (16:00):
-Krav Maga (2 hours)
-Meditation (20 min)
-Kegels (5 min)
-Business (50-100 min)
-Eating (1-2 hours)
-(Nap- if I go out at night)
-Daygame (1-3 hours) / Night (2-5 hours)
Friday (15:00):
-Gym (2 hours)
-Meditation (20/40 min)
-Kegels (5 min)
-Business (50-100 min)
-Eating (1-2 hours)
-Nap (2-4 hours)
-Night (2-7 hours)
Saturday:
-Meditation (20/40 min)
-Kegels (5 min)
-Business (50-X min)
-Eating (1-2 hours)
-Night (2-7 hours)
Sunday:
-Gym (2 hours)
-Meditation (20/40 min)
-Kegels (5 min)
-Business (50-100 min)
-Eating (1-2 hours)
-Daygame (1-3 hours)
Notes:
-Valid till new year. Then I will go out less and focus on my studies more (school leaving exam, exams for university)
-Gonna cram in some school work if it´s needed (but gonna try to do all school work at school on lunch breaks)
-Gonna try to go for 20+20 min mediation on Wed, Fri, Sat, Sun (cuz I have more time and those nights are more alive)
-Everyday I am also gonna spend 30-60 min writing field repports
-That means no time for porn/internet trolling (especially RSDnation)
Now I shall get into the habit and execute this. I wanna get good at this.
ChinaBoy
I have some notes in my phone from the 2nd day.
More notes from bootcamp:
-Jewelry inspection
-Brush and lead (so much better than pulling by the wrist)
-Neck kiss/bite ("I do not makeout in public")
-Statement of empathy ("Oh, I am from Czech/ Oh, I am chinese. If I am too fast tell me to slow down")
-Doesn´t matter what moves you are doing but that you are doing moves
-Pull back or push her away from time to time
-The goal of physicality is physical rapport not sex in the club (time is you ally)
-Problem with young guys: They become the weird pickup guy. Have hobbies.
-Conguence tests: "It´s fine" or "By that you mean awesome"
-Get contacts early
-Relax
-Have fun
-Talk to everybody (especially the 1st 2 hours)
-Make friends
You are enough. No need to convey value.
I have problems with time management. Going out 6-7x a week is really time demanding. Plus I have final year of high school and I also have hobbies.
Timetable:
Highlighted are those which are more likely.
Monday (15:00):
-Krav Maga (2 hours)
-Meditation (20 min)
-Kegels (5 min)
-Business (50-100 min)
-Eating (1-2 hours)
-(Nap- if I go out at night)
-Daygame (1-3 hours) / Night (2-5 hours)
Tuesday (15:00):
-Meditation (20 min)
-Kegels (5 min)
-Business (50-100 min)
-Eating (1-2 hours)
-(Nap- if I go out at night)
-Daygame (1-3 hours) / Night (2-5 hours)
Wednesday (14:00):
-Gym (2 hours)
-Meditation (20/40 min)
-Kegels (5 min)
-Business (50-100 min)
-Eating (1-2 hours)
-Nap (2-4 hours)
-Night (2-7 hours)
Thursday (16:00):
-Krav Maga (2 hours)
-Meditation (20 min)
-Kegels (5 min)
-Business (50-100 min)
-Eating (1-2 hours)
-(Nap- if I go out at night)
-Daygame (1-3 hours) / Night (2-5 hours)
Friday (15:00):
-Gym (2 hours)
-Meditation (20/40 min)
-Kegels (5 min)
-Business (50-100 min)
-Eating (1-2 hours)
-Nap (2-4 hours)
-Night (2-7 hours)
Saturday:
-Meditation (20/40 min)
-Kegels (5 min)
-Business (50-X min)
-Eating (1-2 hours)
-Night (2-7 hours)
Sunday:
-Gym (2 hours)
-Meditation (20/40 min)
-Kegels (5 min)
-Business (50-100 min)
-Eating (1-2 hours)
-Daygame (1-3 hours)
Notes:
-Valid till new year. Then I will go out less and focus on my studies more (school leaving exam, exams for university)
-Gonna cram in some school work if it´s needed (but gonna try to do all school work at school on lunch breaks)
-Gonna try to go for 20+20 min mediation on Wed, Fri, Sat, Sun (cuz I have more time and those nights are more alive)
-Everyday I am also gonna spend 30-60 min writing field repports
-That means no time for porn/internet trolling (especially RSDnation)
Now I shall get into the habit and execute this. I wanna get good at this.
ChinaBoy
__________________
20.9.2011 Night- I am improving
So I went out at 10 PM. Some chit chat with my friend. Then go meet the other ones (2 guys, 1 girl).
We go to 2faces. I feel nervous, chody, but I rememberred the 2 hour rule.
Talk to my friend. Talked to some girls, friendly. High fives. Did a few spin hugs and got some FBs. Made some guy friends. Openning girls by introducing myself.
After like 1 hours I started to relax. With my more relaxed vibe and more friendly and less agressive I do not get harsh blowouts (well got one but this doesn´t matter). I used to be stressed and go in hard and get blownout hard.
Some conversations were stalling cause she wasn´t receptive and I am not good at plowing. I usually give up after 30 sec. I do not have the outflow of positivity, just relaxed.
Then meet some girls, meet their guy friend, he´s cool, from Germany. We talk. Then the stripper show rolls on. The stripper pulls a chody/nerdy guy in. Some stripping and lap dancing for like 3 min. Shit was hot. Hot hohothothothot. Fuck. Titties out. Panties down. WTF? Didn´t expected panties down. This is why I go out: 1. pussy, 2. fun, 3. social skills/friends
Intuition-emotional atunement
Approach 2 chicks. Not really receptive. Talk shit.
Said "I have been living in Czech r. for 17 years and i am 14 years old", I felt like i am about to loose this set. So immediatelly Jeffy came up into my mind: "Keep it real" and i immediatelly shift and be real: "No, i am kidding, actually i am going to be 19 in a month."
Longest set ever (Blackhair aka BH)-I met her around 1-1:30 AM
Approach a girl. Intro also to her friends. Tell her let´s go sit here. "No, I am gonna go with my friends". Try to get her FB but no go: "maybe later"
I am sitting at a table, just chilling, sitting on a good spot where I can just approach a girl if she goes past. My friend startes to talk to BH. I just chill. Then she comes to me and says let´s go dance.
We do down. I try to lead her by the hand but she´s resistant. I wanted to lead her but I feel like she´s trying to lead.
We dance (this girl is testy, going hot and cold, pushing me away, refusing to spin, etc), spin hug. Then I lead her near the bar to a couch. We talk (hobbies, school, future, etc.)
We makeout. I pull away after a few secs. Kiss/bite her neck. She´s getting hot. Then we chill. Though: "Ah, I need to befriend her friends"
We go dance. She´s fucking testy. Running away, pushing me away, refusing to spin. At this point I wanted to befriend her female friend, a genuine compliments, try to spin her but she refuses. Then talk a little bit to her male friend, he´s ok.
Then some split off time, where I meet a new guy then met another pakistani guy from France. Funny how they were not really smilling and suddenly I go talk to them and they start to smile and get more "high energy".
Then go talk to her again. Feeling like following her, but I was determined. No pussy shit. Go after the pull.
We go to the same couch. Talk some more. Tell her about my travels and that we should check out my pics later, she said yes. Talk about the "Slut topic".
Slut topic
is basically talking about how the society is wrong, that when men sleep with a lot of women it´s good and when women sleep with a lot of men it´s bad (aka slut). How women can´t be themselves.
Then ask her what porn she likes. She watches everything. Asked her if girls watch porn. She said as much as men do. Some more short makeout. More neck biting. She wants to makeout but I just turn my head and it frustrated her. Also pulled her hair and asked her if she likes it, yes she does. Got her FB and number (immediatelly called her and saved myself into her phone)
Dancefloor. Again same shit. I got tested hard (not verbally). Verbal test are fucking easy for me to handle, but fucking this "Hot and cold" shit, pushing me away, etc. is a really harsh test for me.
I talk to my french friend. He says it´s really easy to pull on Champs Elysees in Paris. He knows it´s easy to pull at the end of the night so he´s staying out till 5 AM. He doesn´t really approach.
I tried to pull her. "Let´s go check out my pics" Like 5 times. The 1st time I said later (cuz we knew each other like 20-30 min) and she agreed, then I think I waited like 20-30 min for another pull but the she started saying "No, it´s too late". So maybe i should have do it eatlier, pull her, fuck her and get her back to the club. She had to go to the dorms with her friends cuz she doesn´t know how to get there.
Logistics were:
-Waking up at 8:30 AM
-Had to go to the dorms with friends
-Didn´t really had the chance to talk to her female friend to befriend
Then chilling with the french guy she walks by. I talk to her, excuse myself from the french guy. I try to kiss her in a more open area which was quite lighted, I got resistance and I remembered how making out is better done in darker areas. So i tell her let´s go to the bar, "no", I brush and lead by her hand (not wrist). We go near the bar, I see a pillar, smile cuz I got a good idea. I push her against the pillar, try to get her hands above her head but no go. We makeout a little bit (by this I mean few sec. Everytime I makeout it´s really short). Some neck biting kissing. This chick is quite grabby, scratchy. Then she meets her friend and goes off.
I see my BH outside chilling with her friends. I was thinking of chill the fuck out, don´t be all pull. Chilled with my friend for like 5-10 min. The girl left at around 3:30 AM. Fuuuuuck.
I walk around the club. See that most girls are paired. Said fuck it and left (at 3:40 AM). Should have approached more, next time. I text BH: "Get home safe. Ivi"
After 1 hour she replies: "Done, and now i have to get the power for lessons, oh...today. G night :)"
BTW: I went out of the club smilling. I was happy. Cuz I went out=success. Cuz I feel like I am improving.
Notes:
I was thinking about (when in the set): Logistics, befriending her friends, pulling, 50/50. venue changing (compliance ladder)
I am gonna go for a day2...preferably in daytime. Maybe some park then groceries or whatever.
We spent together on and off like 2 hours (so total like 1-1,5 hour)
Conclusion:
-Out almost 6 hours
-10-20 approaches (really hard to remember if you are in clubs, easier to remember if you do streetgame only)
-1 makeout
-2 numbers
-several FBs
-made some new guy friends
Lessons:
-Shit tests. Verbal do not phase me at all. The other nonverbal mess my head up a little bit even though I may not show it.
-You may be going into a club nervous but going out of the club relaxed
-I do not know how to plow. If the girl is like not receptive I just give up after 30-60 sec
-I need to learn vommiting words. Just talk shit. Cuz at first it´s 90/10
-Pulls are messy. Self trust. The pull is happening. If It doesn´t look good you make the pull happen (this is what i tried to do tonight)
-Girls in Czech are quite open to spin and hug. Did it like 3-5 times tonight and didn´t got like any resistance. This was not the case in Sweden.
-2 hour rule is the shit
-Getting more calibrated and being more push. Before I was all pull and would blow myself out.
Reference points:
-I can get chill in the club. At first I was nervous and as the night went on I got more and more relaxed
-Girls like sex. Girls like porn
To do:
-Everytime you get a number, call her immediately on the spot and save your name into her phone. If it´s a flake just call her out on it
-Be more talkative in the 1st 2 hours. I was but I could be more talkative.
-Be more persistant. Fuck it. Doesn´t matter that It will make you look bad.
I got shit ton of drama from parents. My dad is really a negative person and it´s stressful to be around him. My mom gives me drama cuz she cannot sleep knowing that i am not asleep. Gotta somehow avoid this drama so i am more relaxed and don´t get stressed. School is at 8AM. Means tonight i am not sleeping at all.
Gotta handle my sleep. Means sacrificing some of my internet time, business time. Means no more reading the internet. Less porn.
ChinaBoy
So I went out at 10 PM. Some chit chat with my friend. Then go meet the other ones (2 guys, 1 girl).
We go to 2faces. I feel nervous, chody, but I rememberred the 2 hour rule.
Talk to my friend. Talked to some girls, friendly. High fives. Did a few spin hugs and got some FBs. Made some guy friends. Openning girls by introducing myself.
After like 1 hours I started to relax. With my more relaxed vibe and more friendly and less agressive I do not get harsh blowouts (well got one but this doesn´t matter). I used to be stressed and go in hard and get blownout hard.
Some conversations were stalling cause she wasn´t receptive and I am not good at plowing. I usually give up after 30 sec. I do not have the outflow of positivity, just relaxed.
Then meet some girls, meet their guy friend, he´s cool, from Germany. We talk. Then the stripper show rolls on. The stripper pulls a chody/nerdy guy in. Some stripping and lap dancing for like 3 min. Shit was hot. Hot hohothothothot. Fuck. Titties out. Panties down. WTF? Didn´t expected panties down. This is why I go out: 1. pussy, 2. fun, 3. social skills/friends
Intuition-emotional atunement
Approach 2 chicks. Not really receptive. Talk shit.
Said "I have been living in Czech r. for 17 years and i am 14 years old", I felt like i am about to loose this set. So immediatelly Jeffy came up into my mind: "Keep it real" and i immediatelly shift and be real: "No, i am kidding, actually i am going to be 19 in a month."
Longest set ever (Blackhair aka BH)-I met her around 1-1:30 AM
Approach a girl. Intro also to her friends. Tell her let´s go sit here. "No, I am gonna go with my friends". Try to get her FB but no go: "maybe later"
I am sitting at a table, just chilling, sitting on a good spot where I can just approach a girl if she goes past. My friend startes to talk to BH. I just chill. Then she comes to me and says let´s go dance.
We do down. I try to lead her by the hand but she´s resistant. I wanted to lead her but I feel like she´s trying to lead.
We dance (this girl is testy, going hot and cold, pushing me away, refusing to spin, etc), spin hug. Then I lead her near the bar to a couch. We talk (hobbies, school, future, etc.)
We makeout. I pull away after a few secs. Kiss/bite her neck. She´s getting hot. Then we chill. Though: "Ah, I need to befriend her friends"
We go dance. She´s fucking testy. Running away, pushing me away, refusing to spin. At this point I wanted to befriend her female friend, a genuine compliments, try to spin her but she refuses. Then talk a little bit to her male friend, he´s ok.
Then some split off time, where I meet a new guy then met another pakistani guy from France. Funny how they were not really smilling and suddenly I go talk to them and they start to smile and get more "high energy".
Then go talk to her again. Feeling like following her, but I was determined. No pussy shit. Go after the pull.
We go to the same couch. Talk some more. Tell her about my travels and that we should check out my pics later, she said yes. Talk about the "Slut topic".
Slut topic
is basically talking about how the society is wrong, that when men sleep with a lot of women it´s good and when women sleep with a lot of men it´s bad (aka slut). How women can´t be themselves.
Then ask her what porn she likes. She watches everything. Asked her if girls watch porn. She said as much as men do. Some more short makeout. More neck biting. She wants to makeout but I just turn my head and it frustrated her. Also pulled her hair and asked her if she likes it, yes she does. Got her FB and number (immediatelly called her and saved myself into her phone)
Dancefloor. Again same shit. I got tested hard (not verbally). Verbal test are fucking easy for me to handle, but fucking this "Hot and cold" shit, pushing me away, etc. is a really harsh test for me.
I talk to my french friend. He says it´s really easy to pull on Champs Elysees in Paris. He knows it´s easy to pull at the end of the night so he´s staying out till 5 AM. He doesn´t really approach.
I tried to pull her. "Let´s go check out my pics" Like 5 times. The 1st time I said later (cuz we knew each other like 20-30 min) and she agreed, then I think I waited like 20-30 min for another pull but the she started saying "No, it´s too late". So maybe i should have do it eatlier, pull her, fuck her and get her back to the club. She had to go to the dorms with her friends cuz she doesn´t know how to get there.
Logistics were:
-Waking up at 8:30 AM
-Had to go to the dorms with friends
-Didn´t really had the chance to talk to her female friend to befriend
Then chilling with the french guy she walks by. I talk to her, excuse myself from the french guy. I try to kiss her in a more open area which was quite lighted, I got resistance and I remembered how making out is better done in darker areas. So i tell her let´s go to the bar, "no", I brush and lead by her hand (not wrist). We go near the bar, I see a pillar, smile cuz I got a good idea. I push her against the pillar, try to get her hands above her head but no go. We makeout a little bit (by this I mean few sec. Everytime I makeout it´s really short). Some neck biting kissing. This chick is quite grabby, scratchy. Then she meets her friend and goes off.
I see my BH outside chilling with her friends. I was thinking of chill the fuck out, don´t be all pull. Chilled with my friend for like 5-10 min. The girl left at around 3:30 AM. Fuuuuuck.
I walk around the club. See that most girls are paired. Said fuck it and left (at 3:40 AM). Should have approached more, next time. I text BH: "Get home safe. Ivi"
After 1 hour she replies: "Done, and now i have to get the power for lessons, oh...today. G night :)"
BTW: I went out of the club smilling. I was happy. Cuz I went out=success. Cuz I feel like I am improving.
Notes:
I was thinking about (when in the set): Logistics, befriending her friends, pulling, 50/50. venue changing (compliance ladder)
I am gonna go for a day2...preferably in daytime. Maybe some park then groceries or whatever.
We spent together on and off like 2 hours (so total like 1-1,5 hour)
Conclusion:
-Out almost 6 hours
-10-20 approaches (really hard to remember if you are in clubs, easier to remember if you do streetgame only)
-1 makeout
-2 numbers
-several FBs
-made some new guy friends
Lessons:
-Shit tests. Verbal do not phase me at all. The other nonverbal mess my head up a little bit even though I may not show it.
-You may be going into a club nervous but going out of the club relaxed
-I do not know how to plow. If the girl is like not receptive I just give up after 30-60 sec
-I need to learn vommiting words. Just talk shit. Cuz at first it´s 90/10
-Pulls are messy. Self trust. The pull is happening. If It doesn´t look good you make the pull happen (this is what i tried to do tonight)
-Girls in Czech are quite open to spin and hug. Did it like 3-5 times tonight and didn´t got like any resistance. This was not the case in Sweden.
-2 hour rule is the shit
-Getting more calibrated and being more push. Before I was all pull and would blow myself out.
Reference points:
-I can get chill in the club. At first I was nervous and as the night went on I got more and more relaxed
-Girls like sex. Girls like porn
To do:
-Everytime you get a number, call her immediately on the spot and save your name into her phone. If it´s a flake just call her out on it
-Be more talkative in the 1st 2 hours. I was but I could be more talkative.
-Be more persistant. Fuck it. Doesn´t matter that It will make you look bad.
I got shit ton of drama from parents. My dad is really a negative person and it´s stressful to be around him. My mom gives me drama cuz she cannot sleep knowing that i am not asleep. Gotta somehow avoid this drama so i am more relaxed and don´t get stressed. School is at 8AM. Means tonight i am not sleeping at all.
Gotta handle my sleep. Means sacrificing some of my internet time, business time. Means no more reading the internet. Less porn.
ChinaBoy
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Some hotseat vids:
-Loved the vid with Brad and Tyler. How Tyler just stands there (because he has the mic) and nods and looks funny. Fucking priceless.
-Loved the vids where Julien would come and try to steal his girls. This shit if funny to me. Try to find someone to do this with, most people would get butthurt.
Last advice from Jeffy on Stureplan:
-Keep it real...."blablablablabla, hey I am Ivi"
This shit is all about relaxation. Can´t wait for tonight.
This week is gonna be epic. Went out monday, tuesday, gonna go out tonight (wednesday). Looks like I am going out on thursday too (cuz I want to be pimp mode on friday and saturday), friday and saturday.
I am gonna keep it: Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat
Maybe also mondays, do not know yet...maybe it will be ok cuz university students just flooded in (cca 100 000).
Sundays and Mondays daygame (max 2. hours)
Gotta figure this out. I want to have good sleep, keep healthy while going out everyday. Not successful at this yet (cuz I am sleeping like 2-5 hours a day this week).
Day:24 hours
School: 8 hours
Going out: 2-6 hours
Sleep: 7-8 hours
That leaves me with little time for Krav Maga, Gym, Eating, Meditation, Studies.
EDIT: Some swedish girls are writing me on FB. I don´t even remember them (so it was a short interaction). One is writing me "hey, darling". Well too bad i am not in Stockholm anymoar.
I am getting more excited/enthusiastic about going out. Have more solid interactions, not like before i´d get blown out all night and having really short interactions. Also i feel like i am more social, even people in the class talk to be more (maybe they can sense osme difference). I think it´s the social momentum (before i got none, cuz i stayed at home all the time)
ChinaBoy
-Loved the vid with Brad and Tyler. How Tyler just stands there (because he has the mic) and nods and looks funny. Fucking priceless.
-Loved the vids where Julien would come and try to steal his girls. This shit if funny to me. Try to find someone to do this with, most people would get butthurt.
Last advice from Jeffy on Stureplan:
-Keep it real...."blablablablabla, hey I am Ivi"
This shit is all about relaxation. Can´t wait for tonight.
This week is gonna be epic. Went out monday, tuesday, gonna go out tonight (wednesday). Looks like I am going out on thursday too (cuz I want to be pimp mode on friday and saturday), friday and saturday.
I am gonna keep it: Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat
Maybe also mondays, do not know yet...maybe it will be ok cuz university students just flooded in (cca 100 000).
Sundays and Mondays daygame (max 2. hours)
Gotta figure this out. I want to have good sleep, keep healthy while going out everyday. Not successful at this yet (cuz I am sleeping like 2-5 hours a day this week).
Day:24 hours
School: 8 hours
Going out: 2-6 hours
Sleep: 7-8 hours
That leaves me with little time for Krav Maga, Gym, Eating, Meditation, Studies.
EDIT: Some swedish girls are writing me on FB. I don´t even remember them (so it was a short interaction). One is writing me "hey, darling". Well too bad i am not in Stockholm anymoar.
I am getting more excited/enthusiastic about going out. Have more solid interactions, not like before i´d get blown out all night and having really short interactions. Also i feel like i am more social, even people in the class talk to be more (maybe they can sense osme difference). I think it´s the social momentum (before i got none, cuz i stayed at home all the time)
ChinaBoy
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www.rsdnation.com/alexander/blog/day-game-and-solid-interactions
Just posted this on comments of that article:
I would listen to you and believe in you 100%.
But when you told me to do this style for daygame I was really sceptical. I was in the "I am not enough mode so i need to convey value"
I though this lacked sexuality, that this lacked a direction towards sex.
No my doubts are gone. Full trust in you. Bootcamp wit you is one of the best things i ever did in my life. YOU ARE ENOUGH.
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A girl and also her friend texted me on FB. one of them messaged me "hey darling". She is in my demographics (simmilar age).
So I am gonna do your style of daygame at elast for the next 3 months. It´s simply choosing the right demographics.
SUCCESS STORY
ChinaBoy
Just posted this on comments of that article:
I would listen to you and believe in you 100%.
But when you told me to do this style for daygame I was really sceptical. I was in the "I am not enough mode so i need to convey value"
I though this lacked sexuality, that this lacked a direction towards sex.
No my doubts are gone. Full trust in you. Bootcamp wit you is one of the best things i ever did in my life. YOU ARE ENOUGH.
--------
A girl and also her friend texted me on FB. one of them messaged me "hey darling". She is in my demographics (simmilar age).
So I am gonna do your style of daygame at elast for the next 3 months. It´s simply choosing the right demographics.
SUCCESS STORY
ChinaBoy
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21.9.2011 -Night
Go out at 11 PM. Go again to 2faces with 4 buddies.
I go approach girls right off the bat. Some facebooks. Made some male friends. So much shit happened that it´s hard to remember.
My "usual stuff":
-Intro, hug, 3 kisses
-High fives
-Medusa five, T-rex five (credit goes to Randy)
-Random talk about that I am half czech, half chinese and half turkish (Yes it doesn´t make sense)
-"I love rainbows"
-"I am shy"
Memorable sets:
-Approach 2 girls at the bar, they are laughing, giving me tests (i ignore them which makes them laugh), try to be physical but no go with both of them, got a high five, talk some more. Not physically receptive, then she tells me that she doesn´t want to talk to me, i ignore it...after a while she tells me it again and back turns. So I shake hands with them, which she does but not even turning her back. So I left. Maybe this was a really hard test and not an actually rejection. At the time I though it was "Haha, but no"
-Approach a blondie sitting at the table. Shake hands, go sit next to her, she puts her stuff away to allow me to sit. We talk. Then her male friends come, she tells me that one guy is her BF, he looks scared and chodish. We talk some more, everyone leaves, i see the opportunity to kiss her. Try to kiss her once but no go. Then her female friend comes in. Somehow I gave up. Said fuck it, she has a BF no need to waste time.
-Approach this average looking girl at the bar, we talk like for 5 min, she has to go, get her FB. Later see her at the dancefloor, as soon as she sees me she tries to hide behind her friend, looking a bit scared
-Approach a hot girl. Hug, not really receptive. Then some of her friends, then they go away. Later see them and the girl tells her girl friends to blow me off. So they do and i go away.
-Approach a mixed set in the bar. My target actually has a BF. That guy. We talk friendly. I remembered their names and then later see the dude and became friends, he really liked how i rememberd all the names.
-Some blowouts which I do not really remember anything about. Haha, I am becoming to be like Jeffy, he doesn´t remember blowouts.
Hot blonde:
Approach this lonely blonde quite late, around 3 AM. We talk. It goes immediatelly into 50/50 mode. She tells me a quite long story about her being banned in a club. I try to spin hug her but no go. Show her the Walz dance. Try to go for rocking rapport but she backs off after a few secs.
I move her around a little bit. Get FB, get number and call her, It´s real and she saved my number.
Also some rapport aka chode questions. Passion: Art.
Logistics:
-with her cousin, some other people
-doesn´t have to get up early
-lives a bit away, not in the city center
I lead her to the dancefloor. Brush and Lead. There she doesn´t really want to dance cuz she has her sweater, drink, purse, told her to put it down but no go. Try to venue change a several times, no go and from there it went downhill. I eject, talk to my friends. Then see her with her cousin. Her cousin doesn´t really like me and pulls the girl away. Later i see her with a guy clawing her. I pussied out, i went up to them, said goodbye to her, introduced myself to the guy and left. I should have been more persistant, logistics were quite ok, just her cousin didn´t really liked me, push bitch push. This is sparta.
Total time together: cca 10-15 min.
The BH (from yesteday):
Sent her a massage in the afternoon...just telling her that i did not slept at all cuz nobody tucked me into the bed. No response.
Then at the club, she messages me.
"Are U somewhere out"
"2faces, we met there yesteday (she´s new in town, so i wanted her to know where it is). Come here NOW."
"I am in....now. I´s quite a distance! :D"
"Come her now"
"Okey"
Then At around 3:40 she still didn´t arrived so i call her. She clicks the no answer button. Then she sends me immediatelly:
"On my way i got lost, so i am giving up :D"
I call her immediatelly. Try to meet her 3 times, no go. She says it´s too late. She tells me when she has time (mo-thu). And this week she doesn´t have time. So i am gonna call her on monday.
Conclusion:
-4 hours infield
-1 peck on the lips
-1 real number
-some facebooks (btw:i go for the number almost everytime)
-15-20 approaches (some girls i approached 2x after being blownout previously)
Lessons:
-Going out is awesome. I hope that I will be able to get more quantity of solid interactions
-The criteria for success need to be: Approach. This is how you can feel better and better as the night goes on
-Applied the 2 hour rule. It changed me. I am less on an approach machine. Sometimes i have 5-10 min gaps between approaches (talking to friends). This little thing allows me not to burn down clubs too quickly.
-Be less pushy, just chill out more (the hot blonde)
-Self trust (It´s going towards sex so just chill)
-THIS IS SPARTA (no pussy shit, you can be ballsy on approaches, but you need to be ballsy with the pull. Make the pull happen)
-Numbers from club can be solid. The BH girl. But my main focus in clubs is same night lay not number+day2.
-I am really really really good with names. It´s a good people skill. This is a big strenght. Big big big. I am happy that i am that way. And i also use the name quite often in the conversation.
-No need to be physically too agressive. Slowing down is awesome.
EDIT: just thought about BH...
-I breathed on her neck heavily, good for building sexual tension
-Gonna try it out infield: Get her all hot and bothered and then pulling away.
Jeffy´s right, i made a ton of progress on the bootcamp. Before i was getting like 10-20 insta blowouts a night. Now i still get blown out but a lot less and have more longer interactions.
Sadly, this time i didn´t went out of the club with a smile. Some times i felt a little bit down, like everyone is having fun except me.
This week i plan to go out Thu, Fri, Sat...so this week it´s gonna be 6x clubs and + sunday daygame (maybe i´ll be out of town and i will he almost impossible to do).
Gotta manage my sleep. Peace out.
ChinaBoy
Go out at 11 PM. Go again to 2faces with 4 buddies.
I go approach girls right off the bat. Some facebooks. Made some male friends. So much shit happened that it´s hard to remember.
My "usual stuff":
-Intro, hug, 3 kisses
-High fives
-Medusa five, T-rex five (credit goes to Randy)
-Random talk about that I am half czech, half chinese and half turkish (Yes it doesn´t make sense)
-"I love rainbows"
-"I am shy"
Memorable sets:
-Approach 2 girls at the bar, they are laughing, giving me tests (i ignore them which makes them laugh), try to be physical but no go with both of them, got a high five, talk some more. Not physically receptive, then she tells me that she doesn´t want to talk to me, i ignore it...after a while she tells me it again and back turns. So I shake hands with them, which she does but not even turning her back. So I left. Maybe this was a really hard test and not an actually rejection. At the time I though it was "Haha, but no"
-Approach a blondie sitting at the table. Shake hands, go sit next to her, she puts her stuff away to allow me to sit. We talk. Then her male friends come, she tells me that one guy is her BF, he looks scared and chodish. We talk some more, everyone leaves, i see the opportunity to kiss her. Try to kiss her once but no go. Then her female friend comes in. Somehow I gave up. Said fuck it, she has a BF no need to waste time.
-Approach this average looking girl at the bar, we talk like for 5 min, she has to go, get her FB. Later see her at the dancefloor, as soon as she sees me she tries to hide behind her friend, looking a bit scared
-Approach a hot girl. Hug, not really receptive. Then some of her friends, then they go away. Later see them and the girl tells her girl friends to blow me off. So they do and i go away.
-Approach a mixed set in the bar. My target actually has a BF. That guy. We talk friendly. I remembered their names and then later see the dude and became friends, he really liked how i rememberd all the names.
-Some blowouts which I do not really remember anything about. Haha, I am becoming to be like Jeffy, he doesn´t remember blowouts.
Hot blonde:
Approach this lonely blonde quite late, around 3 AM. We talk. It goes immediatelly into 50/50 mode. She tells me a quite long story about her being banned in a club. I try to spin hug her but no go. Show her the Walz dance. Try to go for rocking rapport but she backs off after a few secs.
I move her around a little bit. Get FB, get number and call her, It´s real and she saved my number.
Also some rapport aka chode questions. Passion: Art.
Logistics:
-with her cousin, some other people
-doesn´t have to get up early
-lives a bit away, not in the city center
I lead her to the dancefloor. Brush and Lead. There she doesn´t really want to dance cuz she has her sweater, drink, purse, told her to put it down but no go. Try to venue change a several times, no go and from there it went downhill. I eject, talk to my friends. Then see her with her cousin. Her cousin doesn´t really like me and pulls the girl away. Later i see her with a guy clawing her. I pussied out, i went up to them, said goodbye to her, introduced myself to the guy and left. I should have been more persistant, logistics were quite ok, just her cousin didn´t really liked me, push bitch push. This is sparta.
Total time together: cca 10-15 min.
The BH (from yesteday):
Sent her a massage in the afternoon...just telling her that i did not slept at all cuz nobody tucked me into the bed. No response.
Then at the club, she messages me.
"Are U somewhere out"
"2faces, we met there yesteday (she´s new in town, so i wanted her to know where it is). Come here NOW."
"I am in....now. I´s quite a distance! :D"
"Come her now"
"Okey"
Then At around 3:40 she still didn´t arrived so i call her. She clicks the no answer button. Then she sends me immediatelly:
"On my way i got lost, so i am giving up :D"
I call her immediatelly. Try to meet her 3 times, no go. She says it´s too late. She tells me when she has time (mo-thu). And this week she doesn´t have time. So i am gonna call her on monday.
Conclusion:
-4 hours infield
-1 peck on the lips
-1 real number
-some facebooks (btw:i go for the number almost everytime)
-15-20 approaches (some girls i approached 2x after being blownout previously)
Lessons:
-Going out is awesome. I hope that I will be able to get more quantity of solid interactions
-The criteria for success need to be: Approach. This is how you can feel better and better as the night goes on
-Applied the 2 hour rule. It changed me. I am less on an approach machine. Sometimes i have 5-10 min gaps between approaches (talking to friends). This little thing allows me not to burn down clubs too quickly.
-Be less pushy, just chill out more (the hot blonde)
-Self trust (It´s going towards sex so just chill)
-THIS IS SPARTA (no pussy shit, you can be ballsy on approaches, but you need to be ballsy with the pull. Make the pull happen)
-Numbers from club can be solid. The BH girl. But my main focus in clubs is same night lay not number+day2.
-I am really really really good with names. It´s a good people skill. This is a big strenght. Big big big. I am happy that i am that way. And i also use the name quite often in the conversation.
-No need to be physically too agressive. Slowing down is awesome.
EDIT: just thought about BH...
-I breathed on her neck heavily, good for building sexual tension
-Gonna try it out infield: Get her all hot and bothered and then pulling away.
Jeffy´s right, i made a ton of progress on the bootcamp. Before i was getting like 10-20 insta blowouts a night. Now i still get blown out but a lot less and have more longer interactions.
Sadly, this time i didn´t went out of the club with a smile. Some times i felt a little bit down, like everyone is having fun except me.
This week i plan to go out Thu, Fri, Sat...so this week it´s gonna be 6x clubs and + sunday daygame (maybe i´ll be out of town and i will he almost impossible to do).
Gotta manage my sleep. Peace out.
ChinaBoy
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