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Teuton

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Join Date: 02/07/2012 | Posts: 225

You can do a saliva test for cortisol and DHEA(Cortisol being many samples through the day) to see if you have adrenal fatigue. My childhood was pretty fucked up because I had a accident when I was 8 and burned my face playing with fire. Till I turned 15 I was extremely anti-social, I did plastic surgery when I turned 15 and that helped ton, but reading that book when I was 17 really helped me. Without it and with adrenal fatigue I would probably have killed myself at some point
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CBAABC

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Join Date: 02/20/2009 | Posts: 1692

 Thanks dude...gonna  read that book.

12.2.2012 Daygame

Went out with X3mmer.

1st approach-ignored.

Forcing her number into me? being physical with me?
Walk with X3mmer and Eigoo...I see these 2 chicks and approach without any thoughts. Usually I say to myself "OK, this girl" But this time I just went. She´s very suprised, giving me those big eyes, I tell her that. We talk for like a min.

Her: "Let´s do it like this...I give you my number"
Me: "woh, No I need to get to know you first"
Her: "It´s hot here, let´s go outside."
I agree...But i don´t want her to lead...So I tell her we are standing over there.

We talk some more. Figure out that they are in a hurry...So I suggest we walk together. We talk some shit, she´s touching my arm or hand. We walk and talk some more...I get the FB and the number. Give her a hug and turn around and walk away...I just hear they giggle, but do not turn back to look at them...Just walk away casually (why? cuz it´s starting to be in my reality that I can approach a girl during the day and attract her and get her number)

Really cute girl, 15 yo, pretty fun to be around, but not from my city (comes here like 1x a month)


Get some blowouts. Hurry or BF...when I get the BF "Do you really have a BF? or is it that you are not attracted to me? Just be honest."

Interesting teenage girl? Rarity
We are at the mall and my wing told me this girl is really cute, but I don´t wanna walk over (was pretty far away on the opposite side of the mall). Well, I just went. Approach her, she´s kinda shy, I lead her away a bit, we talk, about hobbies and stuff. She´s asking me questions. We talk for like 10 mins. My wing is calling me...I get the FB and the number, give her a hug and a kiss on the cheek (this was probably too much as I felt like kiss on the cheek was too much for a shy girl)

Like this girl, felt like a solid interaction...too bad I am out with wings...we are like dependent on eachother and cannot go on instadates...Welp, I gotta do more daygame myself to I can go on instadates. After I finish with my wing our daygame session I call her up, but didn´t picked up.

Already approached by Eigoo hahaha
We go to the bookstore...I approach this girl.
"I got approached by your friend, did you guys colaborated?"
In my head I am like laughing and thinking of Eigoo. Yep, It was him. But I did not care...and just ignored her comment and kept talking.

We talk, kinda normal, then she drops the BF in...I say goodbye. My wing told me later that she saw me approach another girl and was giving me weird looks hahaha.


My wing isn´t in the best mood...I tell him to approach 2 girls..he´s stalling, then goes but sees 2 girls go into a cosmetics store and doesn´t wanna go...I told him ok, I am doing this.

Go inside, talk, her friend recognized me from a club, but they aren´t into me...get blown out. Then I demand from my wing to do his pushups for not approaching.

Cause my wing some pain for not approaching...I approached a girl he really liked and then talked to her for like 10 min and had him wait for me and watch me. I think next time he´ll hesitate less and approach more. Hahaha got inspired by this vid:

Victories:
-Got some really cool interactions
-Approached without a thought
-Met this really cool girl
-Saw my wing get harsh blowouts? Why? Because he had a bad vibe (tired and angry)
-Pushed myself

Conclusion:
-1,5 hours
-8+ approaches
-2 numbers, 2 facebooks

Lessons:
-I need to do more solo daygame for insta dates
-Just say out loud how are they feeling
-Call them out for lying. "Do you really have a BF or you are just not interested in me? Just be honest."
-Already being approached by someone else? Just doesn´t matter if you do not care
-Lead Lead Lead

ChinaBoy
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CBAABC

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Join Date: 02/20/2009 | Posts: 1692

 13.2.2012 Daygame- I need to change up my openers


School started again...fuck now I actually need to study.

Approached a lot...

Highlights:
-Approached a girl 2x today with a direct opener "You already told me that."
-Approached another girl that I have already approached, but she wasn´t diggin me...
-I saw this brunette in yoga pants, hot hot ass...I have to follow her to a clothing store. Approach directly. See her face and recognized her (she works at the mall as a waitress and she must have seen me approach before countless times). "Hey, you don´t need to even try." "Why? You are not into me?" "No" "Thanks for honesty, have a good day."
-We had to almost jog like 500 m because my wing was stalling. But I was uncompromising...either pushups or go. Well we went after them, almost run for like 5 min so he could do the approach.
-Countless BF/blowouts/I am in a hurry
-Got a FB from a girl in the trainstation, her phone doesn´t work so she didn´t want it to give it to me...Don´t think she´s attracted. Gonna try over FB, but have below zero expectations
-Approahc a girl at a stand while having 3 of her girl friends and workers at the stand stare at me...but a blowout
-Approached a brunnette...seemed genuinelly flattered and happy but has a BF
-The chaos approach. My wing told me go approach those (right walking infront of us). "Uhhh, but she´s not cute I saw her" while already walking up to her...I run up to them and as I do that the group of 3 girls split, while my target get on the phone, I am confused for a sec but go approach her...Go approach her, but she stops and talks to some mom with a baby...again confused for a sec...approach anyways. So so confused...get blownout.

A big investment on my part
I see this cute brunette from behind...high heels, skinny jeans. She´s very far away in the mall. I go...I had to walk fast through the whole mall to catch up to her. Approach, she´s kinda suprised and says that she´s in a hurry...So I tell her I´ll walk with her...We talk, she´s 19, very cute blue eyes, kinda shy, I like her. We talk about hobbies, my life goals.

Then I qualify her on her friendliness "You are kinda shy, but you are friendly, unlike most czech people, etc."

We agreed to cook something...Get number, FB.

Text her..."Nice to meet you nerd :P Ivi" She responded with some smiley faces and that she´s not a nerd, also nice meeting me that she was kinda shocked.



Victories:
-Approached a lot, lot of times without a thought or hesitation
-Pushed myself
-I give less of a fuck, Unappologetic, I am not doing anything socially or morally wrong
-Was honest with the girls, but probably need a lil bit more congruence
-Did 3 approaches on my own. I need to be less wing dependent. I am pretty dependent on my wing like when I get a blowout I like to shoot the shit with my wing to keep me out of my head.

Conclusion:
-2 hours
-15+ approaches
-2 fbs, 1 number

Lessons:
-I need to bit a lil bit more congruent...I am always using the same opener, similar follow up, probably seems like I did it a lot of times.
-I did right with the running up thing that I am giving them more space
-I need to change up my openers...probably do some indirect ones

Question: Why I get a pretty good interaction with girls where I feel natural and the girl is aroused (smiley), etc...I get the FB and number...and then they don´t even add me on FB nor pickup my calls or respond to my texts. (Note I am not super needy with texting or calling- max 1x every 3-4 days I reiniciate)?

Is it because they might have seen me approach/get blownout by other girls?

I have a big problems with flaking...Any tips?

ChinaBoy
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Tezer

Tezer

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Join Date: 01/14/2011 | Posts: 973

Sounds like you're being too much of a nice guy/chode in the daytime. Girls smile when they're nervous, so don't misinterpret this as them liking you. Try polarizing more often and act like you would at night (maybe less loud and less physical but still manly), at least this way if they stick around to talk to you long enough YOU KNOW they dig you because you've been a bit of a dick to them. Perhaps you're right that the opener is the problem, you might just be too rigid when chatting with chicks and all it takes is for you to experiment more with your approaches...
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Teuton

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Join Date: 02/07/2012 | Posts: 225

What kind of direct openers are you using?In my experience the more direct you are('you are really hot', 'I love your legs') the better to have everything together in order to not get blown out(state, tonality, fashion, face). When I go with more semi-direct('you have a cute face', 'I love your style') I can be more sloppy and still open 
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CBAABC

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Join Date: 02/20/2009 | Posts: 1692

 @Andre: Yea, sometimes it´s the nervous smile...but sometimes it´s like the smile with the puppy dog eyes. Yep, sometimes I tease them with breaking rapport (calibrated, not yelling like a retard).

 @Teuton: "Hey, I know this is unusual, but I thin you are cute, so I had to meet you/I´d be disappointed at myself for the whole day if I wouldn´t have approached you."

Then ask them what are they doing right now, talk about hobbies, if they are young so I guess their grade (1th, 2nd, 3rd, 4th or uni), etc...

I think I need to at least stay in the set as long as possible when I find those girls...cuz some are willing to talk to me for sometime but my wing is kinda dependent...so we agreed on no instadates.

Probably the results from daygame come mostly from those longer sets...cuz 3-5 min isn´t the best. Time is your ally.

ChinaBoy
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roadrally

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Join Date: 10/12/2009 | Posts: 1920

Flaking to me seems unavoidable. I was doing beach game in set with girls for one hour or two. Bounced them a couple places. They would still flake me. I think you have to remain free from outcome even though you know you will probably never see the girls again, and even when you call her up to figure out the day2
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CBAABC

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 Probably it´s from making them uncomfortable...cuz when you approach girls, especially with a direct opener a lot of girls will be intimidated by you and feel uncomfortable and with time and good mindset and behavior she´s slowly relax and get comfortable around you...

Cuz probably the girl´s is thinking "he made me uncomfortable when he approached my, why would I want to meet him again?"

14.2.2012 Daygame


I dunno why...but even after getting enough sleep (7+) I am still very tired, lack energy and feel very sleepy...this is really fucking up my productivity.

Also today I felt like shit...so decided against actively going out to daygame.

1st approach was on my way to school...I saw this hot blonde, approached her, I think I made her uncomfortable, probably good to take a step back, statement of empathy (I am scaring you, you look nervous, etc.), she told me that she has a BF after a few mins talking to her...I think it was a lie and that she said it just to get rid of my for intimidating her.

Then at school I read this new article from Alex, realised that a lot of times it was me scaring the girls away and not noticing that she´s quiet and attentive and that I just need to be patient and more empathetic (less intense).

2nd approach. I am talking with my buddies in a tram and notice this very cute red head...but didn´t thought about her...I got off the tram and see her also getting out. She goes to the traffic lights, I see her, I am all nervous, don´t feel good, having negative self talk. I approach her directly.

We talk, have some commonalities, I like her, I tell her that she´s kinda shy and also that I am probably intimidating her, blame it on my nationality...just statements of empathy.

I qualify her on her friendliness, get the number, ask if she can cook. No. "You really don´t know how to cook?" In a BR, kinda teasing way...

Victories:
-Pushed myself, really did not wanted to approach
-Solo approaches

Conclusion:
-2 approaches
-1 number

Lessons:
-Use a lot of statements of empathy
-Be less intimidating
-Notice when girls are quiet and attentive
-Time is your ally so spend as much time with the girl as possible
-Stop overthinking. You are enough
-Less high fiving...I occasionally do it with some girls...always get a nervous laugh.

Another golden post on RSDnation. Highly recommended.

BTW: I am going back to Primal way of eating...to deal with the acne and my lack of energy (sleepiness)

Also doing something from the book How To Raise Your Self Esteem by Nathaniel Branden.

ChinaBoy
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TheRoyalFlush

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Join Date: 08/22/2006 | Posts: 191

 Hey man,

Have to give you props about your dedication. Good shit, for real.

I have to say something thats been bugging me though, not just with you, but one of the main pu dogmas often preached.  

I was exactly like this when I started ( well, nowhere near as intense haha) this whole "approach set after set after set" mindset is fucking you up.  Instead of looking at a cute girl as a "set" try to view it as a cute girl you want to fuck.  Seems intuitive, but in my experiece PU made me fetishize "game" over actually meeting a cool girl.  

Why not take a break...  often times taking a break will allow you to internalize alot of what you been practicing  then start again fresh.  When you go back into it, try to let the girl(s) pull you in.  IOW, dont force yourself to approach just for the sake of approaching, approach with the intent on connecting with a potentially really cool person.

Hope this helps
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TheRoyalFlush

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Join Date: 08/22/2006 | Posts: 191

 Hey man,

Have to give you props about your dedication. Good shit, for real.

I have to say something thats been bugging me though, not just with you, but one of the main pu dogmas often preached.  

I was exactly like this when I started ( well, nowhere near as intense haha) this whole "approach set after set after set" mindset is fucking you up.  Instead of looking at a cute girl as a "set" try to view it as a cute girl you want to fuck.  Seems intuitive, but in my experiece PU made me fetishize "game" over actually meeting a cool girl.  

Why not take a break...  often times taking a break will allow you to internalize alot of what you been practicing.  When you go back into it, try to let the girl(s) pull you in.  IOW, dont force yourself to approach just for the sake of approaching, approach with the intent of connecting with a potentially really cool person.

Hope this helps
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