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roadrally

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Join Date: 10/12/2009 | Posts: 1922

Maybe see a dermatologist for your face
Proactive didn't work for me
Drink lots of water.
Stay away from processed foods and sugars.
Eat more fresh fruits and vegetables
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I just want to enjoy amazing girls. Crazy what sort of journey ive embarked on pursuing this quest.

My adventures in Dallas - 2013
 My adventures in Austin - 2012 
  Tyler/Julien, Honolulu Bootcamp July 2011 Tyler hotseat2 x5 (2011-2012) Alex hotseat x2 (2013)
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CBAABC

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Join Date: 02/20/2009 | Posts: 1692

 11.2.2012 Daygame

Went out just for a quick 1 hour session. The city is dead. But still managed to do 4 approaches.

Didn´t get any insta blowouts...always talked to them for at least a min.

3 told me that they have a BF, 1 told me that she´s in a hurry (it was a lie, just a blowout).

A girl is fitgetting so I tell her, and told me that it has never happened to her before. We talked, I want to high five her but she did high five me, keep talking. I go for the number, no go, says BF (probably a lie).

Call up a girl from yesterday...seemed pretty solid after a getting a long message full of emoticons...but didn´t picked up 2x. No biggie, gonna call her up next week.

Victories:
-Wasn´t in the mood for approaching but did it anyways
-Approached 2 girls in the mall, while the security guy was right behind them, he listened to our convo...according to my wing, she stood near for a while but after a while he left. Awesome! No negative perception in the security guy´s eyes...Well, it´s the only mall in the city center so it´s a really important spot for me.
-Approached 2 really hot girls
-Funny convo on the last approach. 

"Gimme your number"
"Well,.." hesitating
Her friend: "Well, this is not possible cuz I´d tell it to her boyfriend"
In my head I am like WTF? This fucking ugly girl with disgusting teeth is cockblocking me? Shame on me for even giving her a handshake. Lol, nope. It´s not that I hate girls...but this was just fucking funny if you´d have seen how ugly she was.

Conclusion:
-1 hour
-4 approaches

Lessons:
-Statement of empathy, tell them how they feel
-I forget to call girls out on lying about BFs. In some cases I know it´s a lie

No club for tonight. Wanna be productive.

ChinaBoy
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CBAABC

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Join Date: 02/20/2009 | Posts: 1692

I AM GONNA SPEND LESS TIME INFIELD.

Gonna cut back on those time consuming nights out. Probably to once a week. And generally do more daygame. Still want to keep it at minimum of 5 days a week. But this time it´s not spending 20-35 hours a week infield...but kinda like 10-15 hours a week.

Why?

Want to focus on internet marketing and most importantly I need to study (for school leaving exam and entrance exams for university). I am a pretty intelligent guy, but don´t want my laziness or pickup ruin my college education. Well, it´s more the lifestyle that i care about, have zero expectations of college education.

ChinaBoy
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UtopiaFive

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Join Date: 09/16/2008 | Posts: 4960

oh no!

cool shit man gluck.  hope to see ur hard work you've been putting into pickup help you bust thru into the internet marketing world.  

tbh tho for me its been v hard to do more than one thing with excellence at a time.  good luck if you stay on this multi-pronged approach, im sure it works for some...
ChinaBoy~ wrote:
I AM GONNA SPEND LESS TIME INFIELD.

Gonna cut back on those time consuming nights out. Probably to once a week. And generally do more daygame. Still want to keep it at minimum of 5 days a week. But this time it´s not spending 20-35 hours a week infield...but kinda like 10-15 hours a week.

Why?

Want to focus on internet marketing and most importantly I need to study (for school leaving exam and entrance exams for university). I am a pretty intelligent guy, but don´t want my laziness or pickup ruin my college education. Well, it´s more the lifestyle that i care about, have zero expectations of college education.

ChinaBoy
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Teuton

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Join Date: 02/07/2012 | Posts: 226

Hey CB,
keep going man, if you think had it tough you imagine what is like to go out for 6-7 months 3-4 days a week for daygame(with a few nightgames in there) before I got my first EMAIL close
It took about 9 months for my first kiss close. My first date took almost 1 year. My first lay took 1 year plus 2 months(With an insane amount of approaches in daygame)
To this day I calculated I have made about 6000 direct approaches in my life, I have gotten a ton of numbers, instadates, day2s, LMRs, etc but I STILL have never gotten laid from direct daygame only indirect
My flake rate is 95%+
If you get discouraged, I'm almost 3 years in this game thing and I have 7 lays, 1 bj. And the girls I laid weren't exactly models, lol
I have adrenal fatigue, something that decreases your levels of serotonin, dopamine and all kinds of stuff. I estimate I game 'out of state' 90% of that time even though I do all kinds of crazy shit, self amusement, etc
I do meditation, inner game exercises, eat quite healthy, etc. Still, this shit just kills me. To make the matters worse, this disease pretty much prevents me from gainning weight, so I'm a skinny like you(I'm 5'9 and weight 136lbs)

I still go out every week for daygame(couple weeks back I did 7 days in a row) and sometimes for nightgame(Next week I will do 5 nights in a row for Brazil's carnaval). I learned to accept this process, to keep thinking too much about results won't do me any good
I would recommend you to read the book The Six Pillars of Self-Esteem by Nathaniel Branden, this book changed my life and I'm sure it will help you a ton

Take care,
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CBAABC

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Join Date: 02/20/2009 | Posts: 1692

 Wow. Dude love your dedication...

Did you have like a fucked up childhood (cuz your results are pretty bad)? Mine wasn´t really fucked up, but I just have chode parents, grew up as the foreigner, never talked to girls, etc...

I think I read the book...But I need to actually do all of the exercises.

Adrenal fatigue? OMG I have some symptoms:
Afternoon “low” (feelings of sleepiness or clouded thinking) from 2 to 4 p.m.
Cravings for foods high in salt and fats
Chronic low blood pressure
Sensitivity to cold and feeling chilled
Non-refreshing sleep
Often feel tired from 9 - 10 pm, but resist going to bed.
Lethargy and lack of energy
Dry and thin skin

ChinaBoy
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Teuton

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Join Date: 02/07/2012 | Posts: 226

You can do a saliva test for cortisol and DHEA(Cortisol being many samples through the day) to see if you have adrenal fatigue. My childhood was pretty fucked up because I had a accident when I was 8 and burned my face playing with fire. Till I turned 15 I was extremely anti-social, I did plastic surgery when I turned 15 and that helped ton, but reading that book when I was 17 really helped me. Without it and with adrenal fatigue I would probably have killed myself at some point
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CBAABC

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 Thanks dude...gonna  read that book.

12.2.2012 Daygame

Went out with X3mmer.

1st approach-ignored.

Forcing her number into me? being physical with me?
Walk with X3mmer and Eigoo...I see these 2 chicks and approach without any thoughts. Usually I say to myself "OK, this girl" But this time I just went. She´s very suprised, giving me those big eyes, I tell her that. We talk for like a min.

Her: "Let´s do it like this...I give you my number"
Me: "woh, No I need to get to know you first"
Her: "It´s hot here, let´s go outside."
I agree...But i don´t want her to lead...So I tell her we are standing over there.

We talk some more. Figure out that they are in a hurry...So I suggest we walk together. We talk some shit, she´s touching my arm or hand. We walk and talk some more...I get the FB and the number. Give her a hug and turn around and walk away...I just hear they giggle, but do not turn back to look at them...Just walk away casually (why? cuz it´s starting to be in my reality that I can approach a girl during the day and attract her and get her number)

Really cute girl, 15 yo, pretty fun to be around, but not from my city (comes here like 1x a month)


Get some blowouts. Hurry or BF...when I get the BF "Do you really have a BF? or is it that you are not attracted to me? Just be honest."

Interesting teenage girl? Rarity
We are at the mall and my wing told me this girl is really cute, but I don´t wanna walk over (was pretty far away on the opposite side of the mall). Well, I just went. Approach her, she´s kinda shy, I lead her away a bit, we talk, about hobbies and stuff. She´s asking me questions. We talk for like 10 mins. My wing is calling me...I get the FB and the number, give her a hug and a kiss on the cheek (this was probably too much as I felt like kiss on the cheek was too much for a shy girl)

Like this girl, felt like a solid interaction...too bad I am out with wings...we are like dependent on eachother and cannot go on instadates...Welp, I gotta do more daygame myself to I can go on instadates. After I finish with my wing our daygame session I call her up, but didn´t picked up.

Already approached by Eigoo hahaha
We go to the bookstore...I approach this girl.
"I got approached by your friend, did you guys colaborated?"
In my head I am like laughing and thinking of Eigoo. Yep, It was him. But I did not care...and just ignored her comment and kept talking.

We talk, kinda normal, then she drops the BF in...I say goodbye. My wing told me later that she saw me approach another girl and was giving me weird looks hahaha.


My wing isn´t in the best mood...I tell him to approach 2 girls..he´s stalling, then goes but sees 2 girls go into a cosmetics store and doesn´t wanna go...I told him ok, I am doing this.

Go inside, talk, her friend recognized me from a club, but they aren´t into me...get blown out. Then I demand from my wing to do his pushups for not approaching.

Cause my wing some pain for not approaching...I approached a girl he really liked and then talked to her for like 10 min and had him wait for me and watch me. I think next time he´ll hesitate less and approach more. Hahaha got inspired by this vid:

Victories:
-Got some really cool interactions
-Approached without a thought
-Met this really cool girl
-Saw my wing get harsh blowouts? Why? Because he had a bad vibe (tired and angry)
-Pushed myself

Conclusion:
-1,5 hours
-8+ approaches
-2 numbers, 2 facebooks

Lessons:
-I need to do more solo daygame for insta dates
-Just say out loud how are they feeling
-Call them out for lying. "Do you really have a BF or you are just not interested in me? Just be honest."
-Already being approached by someone else? Just doesn´t matter if you do not care
-Lead Lead Lead

ChinaBoy
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CBAABC

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 13.2.2012 Daygame- I need to change up my openers


School started again...fuck now I actually need to study.

Approached a lot...

Highlights:
-Approached a girl 2x today with a direct opener "You already told me that."
-Approached another girl that I have already approached, but she wasn´t diggin me...
-I saw this brunette in yoga pants, hot hot ass...I have to follow her to a clothing store. Approach directly. See her face and recognized her (she works at the mall as a waitress and she must have seen me approach before countless times). "Hey, you don´t need to even try." "Why? You are not into me?" "No" "Thanks for honesty, have a good day."
-We had to almost jog like 500 m because my wing was stalling. But I was uncompromising...either pushups or go. Well we went after them, almost run for like 5 min so he could do the approach.
-Countless BF/blowouts/I am in a hurry
-Got a FB from a girl in the trainstation, her phone doesn´t work so she didn´t want it to give it to me...Don´t think she´s attracted. Gonna try over FB, but have below zero expectations
-Approahc a girl at a stand while having 3 of her girl friends and workers at the stand stare at me...but a blowout
-Approached a brunnette...seemed genuinelly flattered and happy but has a BF
-The chaos approach. My wing told me go approach those (right walking infront of us). "Uhhh, but she´s not cute I saw her" while already walking up to her...I run up to them and as I do that the group of 3 girls split, while my target get on the phone, I am confused for a sec but go approach her...Go approach her, but she stops and talks to some mom with a baby...again confused for a sec...approach anyways. So so confused...get blownout.

A big investment on my part
I see this cute brunette from behind...high heels, skinny jeans. She´s very far away in the mall. I go...I had to walk fast through the whole mall to catch up to her. Approach, she´s kinda suprised and says that she´s in a hurry...So I tell her I´ll walk with her...We talk, she´s 19, very cute blue eyes, kinda shy, I like her. We talk about hobbies, my life goals.

Then I qualify her on her friendliness "You are kinda shy, but you are friendly, unlike most czech people, etc."

We agreed to cook something...Get number, FB.

Text her..."Nice to meet you nerd :P Ivi" She responded with some smiley faces and that she´s not a nerd, also nice meeting me that she was kinda shocked.



Victories:
-Approached a lot, lot of times without a thought or hesitation
-Pushed myself
-I give less of a fuck, Unappologetic, I am not doing anything socially or morally wrong
-Was honest with the girls, but probably need a lil bit more congruence
-Did 3 approaches on my own. I need to be less wing dependent. I am pretty dependent on my wing like when I get a blowout I like to shoot the shit with my wing to keep me out of my head.

Conclusion:
-2 hours
-15+ approaches
-2 fbs, 1 number

Lessons:
-I need to bit a lil bit more congruent...I am always using the same opener, similar follow up, probably seems like I did it a lot of times.
-I did right with the running up thing that I am giving them more space
-I need to change up my openers...probably do some indirect ones

Question: Why I get a pretty good interaction with girls where I feel natural and the girl is aroused (smiley), etc...I get the FB and number...and then they don´t even add me on FB nor pickup my calls or respond to my texts. (Note I am not super needy with texting or calling- max 1x every 3-4 days I reiniciate)?

Is it because they might have seen me approach/get blownout by other girls?

I have a big problems with flaking...Any tips?

ChinaBoy
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Tezer

Tezer

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Join Date: 01/14/2011 | Posts: 973

Sounds like you're being too much of a nice guy/chode in the daytime. Girls smile when they're nervous, so don't misinterpret this as them liking you. Try polarizing more often and act like you would at night (maybe less loud and less physical but still manly), at least this way if they stick around to talk to you long enough YOU KNOW they dig you because you've been a bit of a dick to them. Perhaps you're right that the opener is the problem, you might just be too rigid when chatting with chicks and all it takes is for you to experiment more with your approaches...
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