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CBAABC

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 28.10.2011 Night (long ass night) (Vienna)

Went out at 11 PM. Went to 6 venues total hahaha.

Floridita
It was a salsa bar. Didn´t felt like i fitted in. Cuz i can´t dance and i am really stiff and stifled with dacing. Just chilled, not really talked to girls. Just 1 approach. Left at midnight.

Palffy
Very snobby, expensive, classy place. Also felt like i don´t fit in. That´s good, pushing my comfort zone.

Approached girls. Had 2 brief 3-5 min interactions there. Then some blowouts. I was persistent but nothing hooked. The place wasn´t good for gaming, really loud. Left before 2 AM.

Salz bar
Approach a 2 set on dancefloor, the girl was a lot taller than me. I find it funny talking to girls that are taller than me. It´s absurd. She was into me. Some deliberate illogicality, she was aroused. Got my friend in the set and then they went away with my friend, i wasn´t aware of that and let the girl go, should have gone with her.

Approach some other girls, no go. Tried 4 times.

Approach a girl in a mixed group. Talk. It was arousing, very friendly. Lacked tension. I was like hell yeah, she´s aroused. It was very emotional and she was responding to my illogicality. I introduce myself to the friends. Got her number, FB. Some light physicality and a hug. Then a guy comes in and i can see that she knows him. He told me not to hit on the girl that she´s married to his best friend, i ask the girl and she agrees and shows me the ring (i was like WTF? married and still in college? she was 22). I just introduce myself, talk to him for like 20 sec and the husband comes in and kisses the girl. So i leave the set and later see the girl again and wish her a good night.

Nothing more to approach so another venue!

Gnadenlos
Was pretty late, maybe 3 am?

Approach this hot, a lot taller blonde. She´s like resistant to my approach. I persist and then a dude who she knows is gently pushing me away. I just tell him to relax, it´s all good, what´s your name. And tap the girl, no response so i left the set.

Nothing more to approach so another venue!

Coyote
This place sucked. Some rock whatever. Fat chicks, ugly chicks, very few hot girls, girls dressed in trainers and t-shirt. WTF?

Approach a girl, she doesn´t speak that much english, wants to go, i persist, but she still wants to go.

Approach another girl, the same situation.

A girl from yesterday recognized me, talked to her for like a min. I remembered her name. Sandra. Now i feel like god with names. Yes, i am sooo good with names.

Good man´s
This is an afterhour place. We enter there like at cca 4:30 AM. Go on a tour around the club, nothing to approach. Sit there and chill for 1 hour. People already there.

Go on another tour and approach 2  times. I was tired as hell, didn´t even tried to keep the interaction going.

Victories:
-Was out really really long. 7,5 hours
-Went to different venues that challenged my comfort zone (salsa place and a very snobby place)
-Approached girls
-getting more 3-5 min interactions. Better than 30 sec/insta blowouts.
-Got a feel of how a girls being aroused by me looks
-Was a persistent mofo. My friend was like you are persistent. Yes. I love it
-Approached in every of those 6 venues

Conclusion:
-7,5 hours
-cca 15 approaches
-A few FBs

Lessons:
-sometimes i need to be louder (calibrate, you don´t wanna lose your voice)
-going out is fun
-Had no expectations when i entered some of those non-pickup friendly places. some clubs were less suitable for meeting women.


Arrived home at 6:30 AM. Now it´s almost 7:30 AM. Journaling is awesome for game but not good when you get back from the club and you are all exhausted and just want to sleep.

Want to do the neck bite. I think it´s awesome. Now just using the jewelry inspection, shoulder push. Use brush and lead not very often on long sets. But i do it always on girls that want to ignore me or leave me at the beginning of the set.

ChinaBoy
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Dr Feelgood

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Yeah, Palffy is kind of a posh place, I'm not really sure how good it is for PU, the field tests on that one are still running... It was the place where I started with cold approach, sitting there for 2 hours and not daring to approach on my first night.

In regards to voice projection, ceoarob has a really good article and also video on his website, click on his signature.
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CBAABC

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 @Dr Feelgood: Thx.

29.10.2011 Night (Vienna)

Long ass night. Went out before 11 PM.

Ride club
Got there. Approach 2 girls. Kinda not responsive and i expected them to take iniciative which is wrong, cuz i gotta take the iniciative and keep the interaction going. Just interview mode about their plans. Screening.

Approach some more.

Approach 2 girls. Talk, bring in my friend. Get her FB and number. Said some gibberish about going for water so i brush and lead her to the bar. She says something about money, at that point i was worried that she wanted a drink from me so i took her somewhere else. Met my friends along the way, then she´s like i gotta find my friend. She goes off the the "paid" area where i do not have access to. Gonna text her, but she won´t remember my name, girls at the club do not remember my name, i ask the girls if they remember my name 5 min after introducing myself and no girl remembers. Irrelevant, what´s relevant that i remember their name and use them in the conversation.

Approach some more. Just screening or getting blownout. Definatively i am getting more persistent.

Volksgarten
Almost didn´t got in because of my age. Used the "I came here from CZ." She aks if i am the only young one. Yes. So the doorgirl lets us in. Cool, my friends are on the guestlist so no cover. Was a bit poshy. Like 5 years ago it was really hard to get in.

Approach 2 girls at the outdoor area. No music there. I am just talking shit, she´s laughing, being aroused. Then i am like running out of content. It´s cold, we go inside. I try to make them sit down, no go. So we talk. My target is shittesting me in a way that i suck. My verbal game sucks cuz i sometimes have hard time keeping the conversation going. So the girl is shittesting me by being non responsive, short answers, not paying much attention. I am starting to run out of stuff to talk so i eject.

Approach some more. Remember that i approach a girl, she´s like asking me questions and then her friend comes in and is like, leave, we gotta dance, blabla. I persist a few times and then just leave.

Developed a new game. "Approach the hottest chick" game. My friend chooses the girl and you have to approach her. I go in, it´s loud on the dancefloor, cannot talk, i suck at dancing. She gets pulled away. Approached really hot girls, and most of them were taller than me.

Approach 2 girls. A small blonde is my target. She´s drunk, dancing around. Talk. Hug. Being physical. We grinded a bit, got a boner. put her hand on my shoulders, kissed her neck and tried to bite it but resistance. Later i tried to kiss her a few times but no go. Her friend approached a black dude, then i got to meet him, cool dude, DJ, came to the club alone. Got his FB. Also got FB and number from the lil blonde. Then they went dancing. Saw her at the dancefloor, dancing with a dude, the dude goes for the makeout, he hit the lips but i was like: hahaha, he´s gonna blow himself out. Yes he did blow himself out. Hahaha, my social intuition is getting better. She´s a party girl, logistics were good but i didn´t found her later.

Approach some more.

Approach a lonely blonde going somewhere. She´s very nice/friendly from the get go. This is bad, cuz this indicates that she has a BF/husband. She´s very smiley. We talk. She´s getting aroused. She´s serbian. We talk. Told her to smell me, she did and it turned me on. I smelled her. She mentioned her BF, my 1st thought: "fuck this, leave it", then 2nd thought "no, stay, it can be a shit test". Keep talking. She´s looking at my lips i tried to kiss her a few times but no go. Also got her number and FB. she´s like i gotta go so i make her stay a few times but eventually she goes off. During the whole time our faces were quite close, she was looking at my lips, smiling, attentive.

Play the game with my friend. He chooses a couple for me. Fuck it i went. Approach the blonde, she´s smiling but no replying. Then the dude cuts in and says that she´s his GF. I am like "no, just being social, what´s your name?", shake hands, he asked me where i am from and shit like this. I shake hands with the girl aks her if he´s her GF ans she says: "hopefully yes". Talked a bit to the dude. Conclude that this is waste of time. Wish him an awesome night.

On our way to Manolos i see 2 dudes and 2 girls walking as 2 pairs, hand in hand. I was like: "Yes, this is a pull, those aren´t their BFs, It´s a pull.". The lessons? Well, it´s easy. Girls wanna fuck. You approaching them is making them happy. They are like: "this cool dude approached me, yaaay. I hope he´s not gonna fuck it up". It´s not that you have bad game, it´s because you are intimidating her. Do not fuck it up by beeing too pushy/needy/intimidating.

Manolos
A salsa bar or something like that. No girls to approach. I hate those places, a lot of not hot girls a lot of older girls. Never ever go to a salsa bar.

Gaming in salsa bar sucks for me, i feel like i don´t dit in, cuz i can´t dance for shit. Also a lot of old/non fuckable chicks. Only positive is there are some girls that are hot and they also know how to move their bodies and usually have a very sexy ass.

See 2 chicks near the bar. Approach them. Just random talk. It´s fucking loud. Can´t talk properly, not very receptive to physicality and leading. Then i was like i gotta find my friends enjoy my night, before i leave a bartender comes in and is trying to get me out of the set, persist for a while and then say to the girl bye.

Then my friend who knows those 2 girls goes to talk to them. Then again the bartender. My friend is like i know her, she´s my friend, you are cool. Later i found out that the bartender was the girls BF. Well, you are just fucking the relationship by being a douchebag, your problem dude (nope, did not say it to him).

Arrived home at 4:30.

Victories:
-Brush and lead a girl without a reason. Yes, you should just take her hand and lead her without saying anything.
-New game: "approach the hottest chick".
-Got turned out by grinding with a small blonde
-My verbal game needs to be better.
-3 longer interactions
-A girl smelling my neck and turning me on by that
-the same girl looking at my lips, it´s so hot, especially cuz she had good EC
-Approached a couple and befriended them
-Got to know a DJ (the 1st time)
-Really, i had fun.

Conclusion:
-7 hours infield
-10-15 approaches

Lessons:
-Brush and lead without a reason
-Neck smelling into neck bite/kiss is awesome. No need for the lips/makeout
-Need to improve my verbal game
-You gotta take the iniciative. Don´t expect the girls to talk at the beginning stage of the interaction
-Not that your game is bad. It´s cause you are too pushy/needy/intimidating.
-More EC
-Calibrate to the venue. If it´s loud then you can´t talk much so you gotta be more physical. If it´s chill area then you just talk a lot.
-Use the escalation stack
-Don´t restrict yourself to Alex style (of talking a lot and light physicality)
-In loud venues you gotta stand closer to her

Main stuff:
-Calibrate to the venue. Physical+less talking Vs. Less physical+more talking
-More EC

It´s 6:30 AM, gotta go sleep now. 

Homework:
1.Go checkout your notes from hotseat and freetour. The stuff from Jeffy. Last month I have been doing the Alex stuff in inappropriate venues that´s why my results aren´t that good this month.
2. Go checkout Vanilla Sky to get more ahold of the "quiet and attentive".

ChinaBoy
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CBAABC

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 Essential lesson: DRINK MORE WATER.

My throat is all fucked up.

Gotta checkout something about vocal tonality.

Gonna work on my style, grooming.

1. grooming and bulking up
2. buying new clothes

Also gonna learn shuffling (for fun) and basic grinding (so i don´t have excuse not to do dancefloor)

ChinaBoy
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Mountaineer-~

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Awesome night yesterday (AGAIN)!
Haha, "Approach the hottest chick" is definitely my favorite game at the moment! To be continued tonight!

To your "running out of things to say" problem. Check these 2 articles out (from Brad):

1. How to talk to girls and never run out of things to say
http://www.bradbranson.com/how-to-talk-to-a-girl/
2. The Million Dollar Mouthpiece: Learn to Vomit
http://www.bradbranson.com/what-to-say-to-a-girl/

Cu later,
M
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Dr Feelgood

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 Love Volksgarten, one of my favorite gaming locations!
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CBAABC

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 @Mountaineer: haha. "Alone!"

@Dr Feelgood: Haha, pretty sweet place.

So tonight we went out. City is quite dead. Only busy place was Ride Club but no way I am paying 18 euro for all i can drink entrace fee. So nothing tonight.

Oh, it´s my birthday!!! I am 19. 

In 2 years I can even think about going to USA. Definatively not going there before 21.

Today I am gonna beast it. Halloween+my birthday.

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3 Main lessons from yesterday (very important):
-More EC (try also triangular gazing, when girls do it to me i feel turned on)
-Talk slower, longer pauses- "Hey...(pause)...I am Ivi"
-Calibrate to the venue (do not go talk mode in loud venues, there it´s just grab, grab, hurr durr, dominant, escalation, etc.)


"It´s not hard to fix a sticking point, what´s hard is finding what is your sticking point"

ChinaBoy
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Dr Feelgood

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Sunday in Vienna is deader than a dead rat's ass. It's so dead it's ridiculous.

Oh, and happy Bday!
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Platzhirsch

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 Bullshit Floridita is packed full on a sunday! and oftentimes other venues too like loco ...just have to look for them!
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CBAABC

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 Agree with Platzhirsch.


Some people in Loco.

Ride club was probably packed (but you gotta pay 18 E).

Schweden Platz: Salz bar-dead, Cactus-dead, gnadenlos-closed, look bar-closed.

So maybe on sundays streetgame in front of Ride club/Loco. Or streetgame at Schweden Platz or near Stephandom.

ChinaBoy
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